John Muhammad flew to Antigua August 2002 on fake ID

The Jamaica Observer ^ | various dates | various publications

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

John Muhammad flew to Antigua August 2002 on fake ID

It's good to see that the 4-hour lines to get through airport security are paying off.

[Sacajaweau]

Atta and gang boozed it up so that is not a criteria for these guys.

We can give them a little test and have women continuously question them.

Moussaoui went nuts with the woman judge!!

[Sacajaweau]

I'd look into the whole YMCA thing...

Atta and gang were constantly working out but think that was at Gold's gym. They appear to have been used as both exercise and meeting places.

Mo and Malvo were also working out at the YMCA in Bellingham in the State of Washington.

[me3]

September 21 2002 @ closing time - Montgomery Alabama - Muhammad / Malvo and a presumed a 3rd person commit a hold-up outside an ABC Beverages liquor store as the doors are being locked. A clerk is shot in the back of the head, it glanced off and exited her cheek. She survives. [this was probably the low-power .22 bullet] The manager is shot in the back and dies. One of these women were shot with the high-powered .223 Bushmaster. Police arrive and see Muhammad rummaging thru a purse, holding the handgun. No one saw anyone holding the .223 Bushmaster. A third person assists their escape using the blue Chevrolet Caprice. The .22 caliber Magnum was dropped in a chase, and found under leaves in October.

What I want to know is if they were at the Islamic training camp in marion, AL, just outside Montgomery. What do you think?

[Devil_Anse]

Massachusetts voters have been electing Kennedys for decades. Why can't these idiots be sued by all the persons who have been harmed by the Kennedys' destructive politics? Why can't these b@st@rds be publicly identified as public enemies who continually vote for Kennedys who then use their positions to take our tax money and give it to people who use it to do things like promote the "minimum wage," and let more criminals loose in our society? Don't ask your politicians for help because they don't seem to be bothered at all by the toxic stupidity of Massachusetts voters. It's going to take mobs to weed these b@st@rds out. We need photographs and stories circulating the internet identifying these b@st@rds. They also continue to give power to other winners like Barney Frank, and hey--where was Dukakis from?

To my friends in Massachusetts: I know YOU think before you vote. The above message is for the b@st@rd who lumps all lawyers together as "predators." To the person who posted the above: how do YOU make ends meet?

Bring on your "mobs." I'll be sitting here locked, loaded, and waiting for you.

[Devil_Anse]

Why can't these predators be sued by the families of the dead?

Interesting that you advocate FILING LAWSUITS as a solution to your outrage at the overactivity of predatory lawyers. Let me get this straight: In order to stop predatory lawyers who clog up the courts with too much litigation, and who are supported by "public money," people are supposed to start MORE litigation?

That suggestion pretty much sums up the quality of the "logic" in your post.

[Future Useless Eater]

Thanks everyone!

To: me3; No, I now doubt they spent much if any time at 'Camp Ground Zero' in Marion. That because they committed a murder 2 days after Montgomery AL in Louisiana, and 1 day before Montgomery in Georgia. I do still believe they had Jihan terrorist training somewhere, at somepoint, but it could have been months earlier. (I will take out Marion from the timelines at the next update)

To: afraidfortherepublic;
>>Are the authorities aware of all this?
I ASSUME SO, Some are probably even Freepers here. That plus they have much better info than we do, with all the stuff they know but are keeping from us. I feel it important (and it was critical during Clinton years) to do our own digging, connecting our own dots, and judge for ourselves what is the TRUE story, not the SPIN. Remember OKC? where there seemed to be lots of leads early on suggesting other accomplices and such? Well after Clinton's people decided the official SPIN, all other news dried up, naysayers were labelled 'kooks'. THe same on Waco, Ruby ridge, TWA 800, etc...

I feel it beneficial to keep the 'Spin' honest.

To aristeides; Yes, I keep hearing of sightings around DC but I'm not super enthused to just 'pile on' to all the tons of reports of their massive spree Oct 2 - Oct 22 I'm not sure what I'll do for that part of the timeline, maybe I'll just point elsewhere to where it is already being covered well.

I AM STILL VERY INTERESTED in any sightings before the first shooting at the Michaels that missed, on October 2nd.
The woman who was out walking late at night after a horrible heat spell finally broke (She had a German name starting with W.) I tried to find where she lives but I failed. I read that police did respond, and found the dark blue car parked and empty a few doors down. It DOES sound like that was M & M, so it would be EXTREMELY INTERESTING AT WHOSE HOUSE THEY WERE SPENDING THAT NIGHT. But her recollection also looks slightly faulty because I don't think they could have been there twice in a week based on other sightings down south. I do need to try to find the exact date of her sighting/911 call. I will work on it.

To Fred Mertz; Yes, two-way radios were listed as being found in the car.

[fella]

Still to be explained is where the money came from for all this flying around by a man of no visiable means. I make 70K and I cann't fly around like that.

[aristeides]

They got a card in a Washington State Y that allowed them to use Y's throughout the country. Shortly before the Ashland shooting, they used a Y in Ashland which, according the Washington Post, is not far from the Ponderosa where they did their shooting.

[Fred Mertz]

Thanks for your excellent work. Keep it up if you can.