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Lessons for California Republicans (Obligatory Barf Alert)
Union-Tribune Publishing Co. ^
| November 11, 2002
| JAMES O. GOLDSBOROUGH
Posted on 11/11/2002 5:25:25 PM PST by Jagdgewehr
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Jimmy-O lamenting GOP loss in California? If the state GOP would just move left of center, we would win elections here.
No thanks.
To: Jagdgewehr
Ultra liberal democrap Goldsborough is always a double barf!!
The only reason he promotes RINOS is to assure that his liberal democraps are sure to win.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:31:22 PM PST
by
dalereed
To: Jagdgewehr
I'd like to find the style manual that redefined "moderate" to mean what this guy thinks it means.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:31:34 PM PST
by
madprof98
To: Jagdgewehr
I'm not taking any advice from this hunk of earthquake bait. where half the people don't know what gender they are and the other half have to pay exorbitant taxes to support their variant lifestyles.
To: Jagdgewehr
The Republican Party's national strength today is rooted in Southern extremism. Outside the Bible Belt, the party thrives and influences events only by appealing to the center. I detest these sanctimonious left-wing assholes whose total knowledge of the South is probably a weekend trip to New Orleans for a football game and a recent viewing of Mississippi Burning and Gone With The Wind.
To: dalereed
Actually, I think he may be gloating. He's damned pleased the Democrats run this state.
To: Jagdgewehr
The danger of having a powerless GOP is that California is penalized when Republicans run national affairs, as they do today.And will for some time to come. If Californians are content to elect leftist radicals, they can expect to be on the outside looking in for some time now.
Its not the Republicans who need to change, its the Californians. Right now they are on a road to self destruction.
To: Jagdgewehr
Since I subscribe to the SDUT and have to read his garbage every week, if it wasn't for my wife that wants it for the ads I would quit taking the paper especially since it appears that they have sacked Joseph Perkins.
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posted on
11/11/2002 5:49:55 PM PST
by
dalereed
To: Jagdgewehr
California has its GOP pockets El Cajon, Oceanside, Irvine, San Bernardino, Sacramento Valley, to name a few. But to win statewide, candidates need broad appeal, and that's where the GOP's ideological fixations doom it to second-class status.
This is complete crap. If you look at the election results by county, most counties voted for Simon except for those in and around Los Angeles, San Francisco, and most coastal areas in between. The truth is, California has its DNC pockets. Unfortunately, those DNC pockets have huge populations, but they do not reflect the majority views of the rest of the state.
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posted on
11/11/2002 6:00:30 PM PST
by
fr_freak
To: Jagdgewehr
Our congressional delegation, representing one-eighth of the U.S. population, is unable to give us the Washington representation to which we are entitled. How does he figure California deserves more representation? Because the Democrats they keep sending to congress can't effectively represent them?
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posted on
11/11/2002 6:04:39 PM PST
by
Randjuke
To: Jagdgewehr; RonDog; Saundra Duffy
If Bill Simon had the support of the California GOP, he would have won. Instead, they tossed him to the wolves.
As a result, he had no choice but to run an extremely underfunded campaign.
Yes, he did make mistakes, but I think the main reason he lost is that he was seriously underfunded and under-supported by a GOP establishment that actively preferred RINOs.
Contributing to his defeat was the COPS messup - which was a real pity, since it obscured his very real win in the debate.
I don't think the election results prove that a conservative would inevitably lose. I think they proved that (i) the rookie campaigner Simon had a lot to learn (and, I think, learned well towards the end), and (ii) we need to do a lot better at fundraising next time.
D
To: Jagdgewehr
Republicans have declined because people have left the state; no longer willing to put up with the stupid garbage which represents government here.
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posted on
11/11/2002 6:26:46 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
To: CyberAnt
One interesting thing I read today about the electorate in CA. They have had an increase in population in the last ten years of 1,100,000 people. Of these 1,000,000 are latino. No doubt these people are going to "lean" democrat.
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posted on
11/11/2002 6:34:54 PM PST
by
boop
To: boop
That could be true, but the worst part of it is most of them are illegal; but the dems have provided drivers licenses and that gives them the right to vote in many places.
I was hoping a president who can speak Spanish would help this situation, but I don't think it's working. What we need is a Gov. candidate who can speak spanish - a good repub who can tell these people the truth.
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posted on
11/11/2002 6:40:31 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
To: CyberAnt
Yes, this is why "motor voter" should be abolished! Or at least require some form of ID when voting. Why should non-citizens be voting in our elections anyway?
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posted on
11/11/2002 6:56:39 PM PST
by
boop
To: Jagdgewehr
Any mainsteam Pubbie (a conservative or moderate conservative with a cautious image) with political experience would have cleaned Davis' clock. All we had to do was throw a dart a Pubbie candidates for governor elsewhere, and import the one whom the dart hit, and Davis would be l'histoire.
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posted on
11/11/2002 7:07:35 PM PST
by
Torie
To: Jagdgewehr
That is where the CA electorate is at... the middle. What's wrong with appealing to your constituents?
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posted on
11/11/2002 7:09:57 PM PST
by
marajade
To: daviddennis
The reason Simon lost is because of registration advantage pure and simple.
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posted on
11/11/2002 7:11:16 PM PST
by
marajade
To: Jagdgewehr
Ronald Reagan was a conservative........Perhaps if California Republicans had real principles they might say something worth listening too. Seems democrats run as if they are conservatives......and get elected...... Republicans who run as moderates or liberals get rejected.
To: stocksthatgoup
So are you saying that Simon wasn't principled and that is why he lost? Simon was the most conservative in the primary...
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posted on
11/11/2002 7:23:48 PM PST
by
marajade
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