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San Pedro Cancels "Tora, Tora, Tora" because it might offend Japanese-Americans (Barf Alert)
The Daily Breeze ^ | Tuesday, November 12, 2002 | Donna Littlejohn

Posted on 11/12/2002 2:12:37 PM PST by FreedomCalls

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I am speechless!
1 posted on 11/12/2002 2:12:37 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
This is disgusting! Is there anywhere we can write and let our feeling known. Heaven forbid I'm not Asian-American, but my grandfathers fought in this war, I'll be their voice. Grrrrr.
2 posted on 11/12/2002 2:17:10 PM PST by LaceyLev
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To: LaceyLev
Los Angeles City Councilwoman Janice Hahn's e-mail address is: hahn@council.lacity.org

3 posted on 11/12/2002 2:19:16 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
Since when can a city coucil woman tell a theater they cant show a movie?

And what is there to be offended about? "Tora, tora, tora" was a movie that portrays the true events of Dec. 7, that the raid was NOT intended to be a sneak attack, and how a series of accidental circumstances led to the myth that the Japanese attacked without warning.

4 posted on 11/12/2002 2:19:49 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: FreedomCalls
I am reminded of the Mad magazine story around 1960 about remakes of traditional films, in one on Pearl Harbor, they show President Roosevelt apologizing to Hirohito because exploding US warships gave the Japanese pilots headaches and ear aches!
5 posted on 11/12/2002 2:21:04 PM PST by CatoRenasci
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To: FreedomCalls
What about being insensitive to the veterans and the American people?All i can say,if your little foreign feelings are gonna be hurt,GO THE HELL HOME!This makes me feel good to be an"INSENSITIVE GUY"!
6 posted on 11/12/2002 2:22:13 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: FreedomCalls
To hahn@council.lacity.org

Subject Dec 7th

I applaud your stance on this issue. Liberalism and political correctness must be allowed to rear it's ugly head as often as possible so the voters can see through right to the core of your radical ideology. Keep it up... I'll be dancing in the streets when we have a 60-seat majority in the U.S. Senate.

7 posted on 11/12/2002 2:23:13 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: FreedomCalls
This doesn't make sense. The city officials said that the reason the movie can't be shown is that there was a previous booking for the same day. Ok, fine. But then why do they bring up the issue of "insensitivity" to Japanese people at all? The only possible reasons they might bring this up are: 1. Because this is the real reason the film isn't being allowed to play, in which case they lied about the previous booking, or 2. Just to annoy and rile up the Vets with a "You can't do anything about it so nah nah nah nah nah!"
It's pretty obvious that the city officials never intended to let this movie show, and instead of establishing this right at the beginning, they came up with all kinds of fake excuses as to why the movie couldn't be shown. And now, just a couple of weeks before the showing, the organizers are left holding the bag.
8 posted on 11/12/2002 2:23:30 PM PST by billybudd
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To: FreedomCalls
This is such bullshit.

By the way, I hope people on FR, start funneling their anger at PC idiot Americans, and not, as they are apt to, get confused and yammer on about 'the japs'. This is not about 'the japs'. The War is over and America won. This is about telling the truth about an historical event and hypersensitivity by American liberals, most of them guilt-laden WHITE people.

They, the PC crybaby libs, insult the brave 442nd in Europe, Japanes-Americans, who were just as American as the next guy in the foxholes.

I am 'offended' that they chose to slap our soldiers and sailors from all races in the face with this latest PC outrage.

9 posted on 11/12/2002 2:23:57 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: LaceyLev
Janice Hahn, sister of LA mayor James Hahn. She has been trading on her brother's coat tails, and he traded on his father's - long time county supervisor, the late Kenneth Hahn. She has a mouth that won't quit. What an irritating politician. She can't keep her nose out of anything. Once again, the level of incompetence in LA city government is overwhelming.
10 posted on 11/12/2002 2:24:42 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: FreedomCalls
Geesh, this weekend there was a Heritage Day event in town with WW-II actors & such. 3 actors were Japanese American all wearing American uniforms. This PC crap has gone way too far.
11 posted on 11/12/2002 2:25:07 PM PST by chuknospam
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To: FreedomCalls
Two film crews -- one Japanese and one American -- were employed to make this movie. This was done to show two distinct points of view for the story. There's no way this particular movie should offend anyone.

How much do you want to bet that the people who cancelled this movie have never seen it?

12 posted on 11/12/2002 2:27:04 PM PST by paulklenk
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To: LaceyLev
Contacts for the Mayor of the City of Los Angeles, James K. Hahn:

E-mail MayorHahn@mayor.lacity.org

Telephone and fax numbers:

San Pedro office:
310/732-4630 (Phone)
310/732-4647 (Fax)

City Hall office:
213/978-0600 (Phone)
213/978-0656 (Fax)

13 posted on 11/12/2002 2:27:20 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
Bump to recall councilwoman Hahn. This is an act of PC stupidity that cannot be allowed,
14 posted on 11/12/2002 2:27:25 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: FreedomCalls
freakin disgusting - they should all be ashamed
15 posted on 11/12/2002 2:27:48 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: FreedomCalls
I wonder if anybody has the stones to ask Nancy Pelosi if she agrees with this decision?
16 posted on 11/12/2002 2:28:03 PM PST by Gritty
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To: FreedomCalls
The 1970 film — a joint American and Japanese production — is considered one of the most accurate depictions of events leading up to the 1941 Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor. Expected to attract hundreds, the showing on the 61st anniversary of the attack was to serve as a fund-raiser for the Fort MacArthur Military Museum in San Pedro.

Amazing. Somehow in the late 1960s, Americans and Japanese were able to put this film together without any reports of hurt feelings on either side. Today, however, why... that movie might make someone feel *uncomfortable*.

Cancelled due to a conflicting event? Suuure.

I recall the Confederate Air Force (now the Commemorative Air Force) being pressured into skipping its "Hiroshima" aerial program, featuring the only flying B-29, due to similar concerns. The odd thing is, the same people who were upset about the non-nuclear "mushroom cloud" were all cheering during the CAF's "Tora, Tora, Tora" "reenactment". It seems they approve of the way the war in the Pacific began, but not the way it ended. That being the case, why is anyone concerned about the movie?

Maybe it's more the "time-warp" thing, with all the period uniforms, automobiles and such. That might stir up feelings of national pride and patriotism... can't have that.

17 posted on 11/12/2002 2:28:49 PM PST by Charles Martel
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To: LaceyLev
Contacts for California State Assemblyman George Nakano:

E-mail at this webpage: http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a53/mailform.htm

Capitol Office
Phone: (916) 319-2053

District Office
Phone: (310) 782-1553



18 posted on 11/12/2002 2:32:14 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
California is nut country.
19 posted on 11/12/2002 2:32:38 PM PST by Man of the Right
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To: FreedomCalls
Are they canceling next years September 11th memorial because it might offend Islamic terrorists?
20 posted on 11/12/2002 2:35:24 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: LaceyLev
Janice Hahn:


21 posted on 11/12/2002 2:35:43 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: ozzymandus
Follow the money.

Read "Agents of Influence" by Pat Choate, Reform Party VP candidate and former lobbyist for TRW.

Know that the powerful Japan business community but more specifically hypersensitive Americans who represent the Japan business community in the US have made attempts in the past to shut down historical representations of Pearl Harbor.

Kentucky several years ago was one of them.

Janice Hahn's south L.A. district is in one of the areas of largest concentration of Japanese investment in the United States. Stereos, cars, shiploading, docks, retail, electronics.

It is not a far stretch to assume that representatives of the JBA (lobby group) from these interests, or the Japan America Society, went to Janice Hahn and told her 'show the movie and no more donations', or perhaps 'we will find investing in downstate Illinois a little more attractive' or even 'my, we would not want the world to have a racist image of your district now would we?'" I am privy first hand to these types of subtle threats and hard ball folks. It really happens.

Yep. This was done to shut off movies or events or historic re-enactments or shut off debate on these and other 'sensitive' issues when it was deemed 'politically incorrect.' I would not be surprised if an organization know as JACL is behind his one. If you check their website, you would probably find something right now about 'stop the hate-movie in San Pedro'. Would'nt surprise me, folks.

Follow the money. Follow the money. Follow the money.

Someone is threatening Janice Hahn's office and putting political pressure on her for Americans to 'self-censor'. Straight out of "Agents of Influence" and the movie "Rising Sun."

22 posted on 11/12/2002 2:36:47 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: LaceyLev
Janice Hahn again in a more flattering photo:


23 posted on 11/12/2002 2:37:19 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
After seeing that, I think she should concentrate on being more sensitive to crustaceans.
24 posted on 11/12/2002 2:39:28 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: FreedomCalls
Why? Veterans and museum members say it’s simply a case of political correctness run amok.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS"

..Call it what it is, CENSORSHIP and THOUGHT CONTROL.

25 posted on 11/12/2002 2:40:16 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
Correct. You are breaking me of the habit.

I am trying to replace 'political correctness' from my vocabulary, to redefine it as 'CENSORHIP' and 'THOUGHT CONTROL'. Which is PRECISELY what 'PC' is.

Ohhhh, DAMN them to hell.

26 posted on 11/12/2002 2:42:06 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: FreedomCalls
I saw most of Tora3, if they can't show that because of sensitivity, then 90% of the movies out there are gone!

No Jesus films, they depict the Jews as killers, except of course Jesus himself (they can show it if they only show the Romans killing Jesus)! Saving Private Ryan/Band of Brothers, bigotry against the friendly Germans. There were hundreds chinese people shown beaten up in those racist Bruce Lee movies.

Pretty much any movie that has a minority/minorities as the bad guy, or a foreigner getting their ass kicked by an American is evil. And don't show planet of the apes, or you'll have to answer to PETA.

I say show it anyway and make a big scene out of it! I also say show up at the city council person's house with tar and feathers!

27 posted on 11/12/2002 2:43:31 PM PST by pulaskibush
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To: Wil H
Keep a clllllose watch on these dudes here:

My prediction: they will open their big trap on this one and start yammering and weeping their pc crap every which way from tomorrow morning if not sooner, if somehow a patriot backlash to Councilwoman Hahn gains publicity or ground.

And their website: http://www.jacl.org/

28 posted on 11/12/2002 2:46:48 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: FreedomCalls
Los Angeles City Councilwoman Janice Hahn concluded that the event would have been insensitive to the Japanese-American community.

The attack on December 7th 1941 was insensitive.
It is also part of this nation's history, and should not be rewritten or lessened in order to avoid offending sensibilities. Third-generation Japanese are no more responsible for December 7th than I am for the institution of slavery, yet we study slavery partly to ensure it never returns.

29 posted on 11/12/2002 2:47:03 PM PST by 76Tiger
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To: Man of the Right
I believe that in Utah we call Kalifornia "the land of fruits and nuts".

Crap like this only reinforces the perception.

30 posted on 11/12/2002 3:00:29 PM PST by Seruzawa
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To: FreedomCalls
Hold on here - they're dissing Toshiro Mifune! Those b@stards!!
31 posted on 11/12/2002 3:13:39 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: FreedomCalls
Fine, they should show MIDWAY, were we kicked a$$!!!
32 posted on 11/12/2002 3:13:41 PM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: FreedomCalls
Show "Midway" instead. Give the sensitive San Pedro Moron-Americans a real reason to bitch.
33 posted on 11/12/2002 3:27:21 PM PST by hattend
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To: SwinneySwitch
Guess I should have scrolled all the way to the bottom :-)
34 posted on 11/12/2002 3:31:14 PM PST by hattend
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To: FreedomCalls
Oh come on!
35 posted on 11/12/2002 3:58:12 PM PST by mafree
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"I wanted to be very sensitive to the Japanese-American community," Hahn said. "Dec. 7 is a tough day, especially for the second and third generations of Japanese-Americans. Why do we want to do something that makes it more difficult?"

This is the problem with Hypenated-Americans. If they are Americans, they should have no problem with a film that shows an attack on America by Imperial Japan. If they are Japanese, then who cares if their feelings are hurt. This is absolutely ridiculous. Refusing to allow WWII veterans to commemorate the attack on Pearl Harbor is a disgrace.

As for any "Japanese-Americans" who might be offended, decide which side of the hypen you wish to live on and go there. And remember, when you disrespect these vets, you are also disrespecting those fine Americans who served in the 442d Regimental Combat Team - which stormed Monte Casino. I'll bet those Americans of Japanese heritage wouldn't have a problem with showing Tora, Tora, Tora on December 7th.

36 posted on 11/12/2002 4:02:22 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: FreedomCalls

Here she is. Ms. Hahn.
37 posted on 11/12/2002 4:07:02 PM PST by dennisw
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To: FreedomCalls
You should send that photo to PETA. It would serve her right.
38 posted on 11/12/2002 4:08:19 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
Great idea! Imagine the feelings of that poor old lobster who now has to go through life with a missing claw. I feel PETA crocodile tears welling up already.
39 posted on 11/12/2002 4:51:10 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: FreedomCalls
"I feel PETA crocodile tears welling up already."

She's obviously guilty of specie-ism. She is furthermore being insensitive crustacean-Americans (I'm sure that's either an Main or Alaskan Lobster).
40 posted on 11/12/2002 5:00:56 PM PST by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
This is the problem with Hypenated-Americans. If they are Americans, they should have no problem with a film that shows an attack on America by Imperial Japan. If they are Japanese, then who cares if their feelings are hurt. This is absolutely ridiculous. Refusing to allow WWII veterans to commemorate the attack on Pearl Harbor is a disgrace.

BTTT

41 posted on 11/12/2002 5:06:27 PM PST by hattend
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Not sure the Japan-America society would be interested in this, and the whole issue is old news to the JACL.

This Hahn woman, however, is the issue. She clearly doesn't know the difference between Japanese and Japanese-Americans. Actually, your post has the same flaw. But nevermind. Ms. Hahn is obviously little more than your typical obnoxious liberal ignoramus.

42 posted on 11/12/2002 5:42:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: CatoRenasci
"I am reminded of the Mad magazine story around 1960 about remakes of traditional films, in one on Pearl Harbor, they show President Roosevelt apologizing to Hirohito because exploding US warships gave the Japanese pilots headaches and ear aches!"


I remember that one too. It was very funny. (Oh, I feel old.)
43 posted on 11/12/2002 5:44:08 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: FreedomCalls
Here's her problem: “Dec. 7 is a tough day, especially for the second and third generations of Japanese-Americans. Why do we want to do something that makes it more difficult?”

"Second" - "Third"?!!

Does this woman think JAs just now got off the boat? I personally know some "fifth" generation JAs, and just recently held in my arms a "sixth" generation JA!

There are possibly much older JAs in terms of generations. The Shogun of Japan thought highly of Napoleon and sent him 24 of his best samurai, along with their entourage. Napoleon sent them on to America. These men were well trained in the art of fighting from boats. Although history seems to have lost track of them, the War of 1812 has a famous battle or two on Lake Erie, a body of water with a great deal of similarity with the Inland Sea in Japan. The Perry family went on to fame in opening up Japan to the world.

I have met JAs who had GGrandparents who knew the Perry family. They didn't count generations in those days.

Ms. Hahn is an idiot.

44 posted on 11/12/2002 5:50:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Lunatic Fringe
While there was a previous theater booking for Dec. 7, according to theater manager Lee Sweet of the city's Department of Cultural Affairs, which manages the facility

This may be the reason right here, the city manages the place.

This theater is run by the city's Department of Cultural Affairs, what a joke.

45 posted on 11/12/2002 6:00:05 PM PST by X-FID
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To: FreedomCalls
“I was told they were going to have 1940s swing dancing and bring in old cars,” Hahn said. “It’s just not really a cause for celebration.”

Every time a Japanese-American sees a Studebaker, he feels hurt? Bullcrap.

46 posted on 11/12/2002 6:04:37 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; CatoRenasci
Political correctness in 1960?
47 posted on 11/12/2002 6:10:46 PM PST by Timesink
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To: FreedomCalls

How about we yell "BANZAI!!!!"

48 posted on 11/12/2002 6:12:54 PM PST by Undertow
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To: paulklenk
How much do you want to bet that the people who cancelled this movie have never seen it?

You may have something here. They probably thought that the sappy, crappy Pearl Harbor was a fine movie because it starred liberal male-bimbo Ben Affleck.

Question-- Do we stop showing The Patriot lest we offend our British allis? Maybe they should no longer show The Alamo lest it offend those radical Latinos and guilty white libs who want to give Texas and the Southwestern U.S. back to Mexico.

Liberals tick me off.

49 posted on 11/12/2002 6:14:07 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: Undertow
hmmmmm...that didn't work too well
50 posted on 11/12/2002 6:14:33 PM PST by Undertow
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