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Updated SNIPER's TIMELINE for 2002
various dates | various publications

Posted on 11/13/2002 2:25:06 AM PST by Future Useless Eater

Latest additions:


Muhammad and Malvo
Terrorists' Timeline#3 - Jan 2002 to October



.... but first, some related info from Timeline #2 ...



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: District of Columbia; US: Georgia; US: Louisiana; US: Maryland; US: Mississippi; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina; US: Texas; US: Virginia; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: beltway; jihadinamerica; johnmuhammad; leeboydmalvo; sniper

1 posted on 11/13/2002 2:25:06 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: TexKat; Grampa Dave; Shermy; aristeides; swarthyguy; Sabertooth; SCR1; OldFriend; dennisw; ...
ping -y'all
2 posted on 11/13/2002 2:30:05 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
Excellent work. Thanks for the flag.
3 posted on 11/13/2002 6:13:02 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: FL_engineer
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/MissingPersons.asp

If anyone has the time, it would be nice to collect a list of all the Texas missing persons in 2002 from this site along with their circumstances, sort them by date of disappearance, and later compare it to the timeline of when the killers may have been in Texas.


4 posted on 11/13/2002 6:30:16 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: USMCVet
interesting info....
5 posted on 11/13/2002 7:09:18 AM PST by MudPuppy
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To: *JIHAD IN AMERICA
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
6 posted on 11/13/2002 7:44:33 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: FL_engineer
COOL! Thanks for the thread!
7 posted on 11/13/2002 8:19:48 AM PST by antivenom
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To: FL_engineer
Good information. Thanks!
8 posted on 11/13/2002 8:26:55 AM PST by zingzang
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To: FL_engineer
A summary of recent Texas missing persons cases under investigation by the Texas DPS can be seen *here*. About 17 of them took place in 2002, but some are infant children and others not as likely to have been targets of M&M, though the first child listed [as a family abduction], Saif Sayed Mohammed Ayad, 7 years old, may be of possible interest.

The site is also linked from the *Texas* Active Search listing hotlink at the top of my FReeper profile page. The Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse Homepage, with links to an alphabetical listing of Texas missing persons cases under investigation and a summary or unidentified persons, mostly unidentified recovered bodies, can be found *here*.

-archy-/-

9 posted on 11/13/2002 8:46:05 AM PST by archy
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for the ping. Stay on top of this. The networks are not pursuing this in detail.
10 posted on 11/13/2002 10:02:46 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for the ping (And I really like the ducky!)
11 posted on 11/13/2002 2:39:46 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: FL_engineer
Compliments-good work on that.I heard a report today that there has been another arrest in the case.It appears it is another person alledged to be a member of the sniping team.Seems as though not much is being made of this,as I've barely heard anything about it.
12 posted on 11/13/2002 6:02:06 PM PST by Rocksalt
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To: FL_engineer
Latest additions:
13 posted on 11/15/2002 1:01:13 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
Latest additions:
14 posted on 12/01/2002 7:54:04 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
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15 posted on 12/02/2002 1:01:41 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: TexKat; Grampa Dave; Sacajaweau; browardchad; Shermy; ~Kim4VRWC's~; Travis McGee; Fred Mertz; ...
October 21 2002 - Muhammad/Malvo are seen several times in Aspen Hill. They are apparently scouting out other kill(s) for the coming days. In one case, Muhammad was reported as panhandling, "begging for gas money". But more likely, they were using their GPS (Global Positioning System) to memorize shooting locations and to measure distances.
Mapquest - 13505 Turkey Branch Pkwy.
One likely future 'kill site' was the Next Day Blinds store at 13505 Connecticut Ave where the pair shopped on October 5th. That store is on the east side of Connecticut(Hwy 185), very near the road. Along the west side of Connecticut, is the frontage road- Turkey Branch Parkway. Muhammad parked the Caprice on the frontage road, in front of the Valdivia residence at 13505 Turkey Branch Pkwy. That address is approximately 150 yards due-west of the Blinds store, [perfect shooting distance].

The blue Chevy stopped outside the home of Rivelino Valdivia, age 22, while he was cleaning out the trunk of his car. Muhammad was spotted, so he left the Caprice and approached Valdivia. "He said, 'I need help. My wife is in the hospital. My mom is in the hospital. I need money for gasoline'. Meanwhile, Malvo in the Caprice, was most likely marking the spot with their GPS, and measuring the distance to the front door of the Next Day Blinds shop.

An earlier murder of Kumar Walekar occurred 400 yards north, on October 3rd, at the Mobil station on the southwest corner of Connecticut and Aspen Hill Rd. This shooting may also have been done from a Turkey Branch Parkway vantage point.

16 posted on 12/07/2002 2:56:28 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer; ex-Texan; SAMWolf; dixiechick2000; B Knotts; blackie; EBUCK
Thanks for the ping and your hard work.

I would still like to see where he lived while he served in the Oregon National Guard unit in Portland, Oregon.

The Oregonian and Politically correct police chief and mayor seem to have put a black hole over this time in his life.

Did he live in Portland or the Portland area at during that time? If so, which Mosque did he go to and who were his contacts? Where there "unsolved" murders/hits in that area while he lived there?

Or did he live Washington state during that time? The same questions need to be asked about where he live and what he did.
17 posted on 12/07/2002 8:33:24 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: FL_engineer; Ol' Dan Tucker; jedediah smith; Plummz; Leper Messiah; dawnal; Sawdring; Askel5; ...
Great work. Thanks for sticking with the details of this story. It seems to have disappeared from the radar screen in sheepleland.
18 posted on 12/07/2002 8:39:20 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: FL_engineer
First I've heard of the tag being run 1:30 AM on Oct. 3 in D.C. Do you know where in D.C. they were spotted? (I'm wondering if they were sleeping in the car parked in some lot.)
19 posted on 12/07/2002 8:47:49 AM PST by aristeides
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To: FL_engineer
Does your chronology not include the alleged sighting of the Caprice (and running of the tags) when they were parked in the parking lot of a Ramada Inn in Petersburg, VA on Sept. 19th because you do not think that sighting really happened?
20 posted on 12/07/2002 8:51:15 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the ping. Bump
21 posted on 12/07/2002 9:02:47 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: FL_engineer
Great job, thanks!

Molon Labe!
22 posted on 12/07/2002 12:14:01 PM PST by blackie
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the heads up, Dave!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For!
23 posted on 12/07/2002 12:16:31 PM PST by blackie
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To: Rocksalt
Where did you hear/see the report on a third arrest?? Most on this site agree there are more involved than Malvo and Mohammed.

I still think they are connected with the Oregon cell because of the timing and the single 223 casing found in the cell's weapon cache. Perhaps it was a "souvenir" to a friend for events that were soon to occur. It fit none of the weapons in the cell's possession.

24 posted on 12/08/2002 7:55:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks much for the ping. Still a lot of unraveling to this case....These guys had to eat, sleep, drive, plan etc..

The questions still have to be asked..the initial motive and plan came from where?? It looks like money but even a dummy would know that 10 mill would set off bells and whistles especially with a stolen card.

Is Muhammed a computer geek??

GPS is stupid easy and if they stored their waypoints, it surely would nail them. Would sure like to know what's on the computer and whether they were hooking it up to the internet and whether they had a police radio early on but tossed it.

25 posted on 12/08/2002 8:12:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Does your chronology not include the alleged sighting of the Caprice (and running of the tags) when they were parked in the parking lot of a Ramada Inn in Petersburg, VA on Sept. 19th because you do not think that sighting really happened?

I don't remember seeing that, I probably had information overload at the time.

Your info is very believable, I know they used Ramada's at least twice when they had out-of-town late-night or early-morning 'business'. But why Petersburg on September 19th? That is only 130 miles outside of DC [two-hour's drive time!], and we don't know of any 'business' they had near there on the 19th or 20th.

So I'd like to learn all the finer details of this cite, and ponder any significance. Can you find this story or the first post? and who was the original freeper?

I understand Interstate 85/95 is the route they most likely used, and Petersburg is on that path.

Here are some attractive possible destinations around Petersburg for them...

TexKat: you are tops at finding obscure sources. Wanna help find this one? Thanks everyone.

Aristeides: on the Oct 3rd 1:30am cite, it was a DC police STOP and questioning.

26 posted on 12/09/2002 2:56:44 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
It was a local VA paper. I forget who posted the link, but I followed it, and the story was there.
27 posted on 12/09/2002 4:35:46 AM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides; TexKat
I found the Petersburg sighting. I will re-report it shortly.
28 posted on 12/10/2002 11:14:03 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for the update. I have been gone for some time. But I am back now. Moved and had trouble getting DSL at my new abode. You know I was just slowly dying. Hope everything is well with you and all of FR members.
29 posted on 12/13/2002 9:45:49 PM PST by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Hey, welcome back TK, I remembered you were moving so I didn't call 911 after noticing you hadn't posted in weeks.
30 posted on 12/14/2002 7:29:20 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
Good morning FL-engineer, yea I'm back. Blew up or did something to my other computer and now I'm using one that I purchased for my daughter 5 years ago and on top of that dial up internet because this computer only has 32k. Oh well, at least I have access to FR and you guys once again. Hope everything is well with you. I see you have been busy. I was up late trying to catch up with everything. Thanks for continuing to include me on your bump list. Have a great weekend.
31 posted on 12/14/2002 7:49:29 AM PST by TexKat
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