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Condoleezza Rice will defeat Hillary Clinton for the 2008 presidency
AnnArborNews ^ | William Safire

Posted on 11/13/2002 8:39:38 AM PST by Dallas

Condoleezza Rice will defeat Hillary Clinton for the presidency in 2008, New York Times political columnist William Safire predicted during a stop in Ypsilanti Monday.

Safire was the featured speaker at an annual fund-raiser of the Jewish Federation of Washtenaw County at the Ypsilanti Marriott Hotel.

Asked if he, a political columnist, misses Bill Clinton in the White House, Safire answered: "Desperately."

"He enlivened my life," said Safire, who awaits the day Hillary Clinton stops being a quiet, respectful freshman senator. He then predicted she will run for president in 2008, but will be defeated by Rice, who is now Bush's national security adviser and will by then be governor of California, he said.

Safire, 72, spoke to an audience of 600 people Monday night without benefit of notes, which surprised no one. After all, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author and journalist was a speech writer in the Nixon White House, and is the most widely read writer on the English language.

"So it just comes out," Safire said of his writing during a press conference earlier in the day.

During his speech and question-answer period that followed, Safire talked about the upcoming election in Israel, the approaching political scene here, and U.S.-Israeli relations.

Calling himself a good Republican, he said he nonetheless likes a divided government.

"Gridlock is great," he said. "My motto is, 'Don't just do something. Stand there.' "

The fact that so many Jews vote Democratic is "against all common sense," quipped Safire, who is Jewish, as the audience laughed.

The soft-spoken Safire reminded the crowd that there was a time people doubted Japan and Germany could ever become democracies. "It can happen anywhere if people give it a chance," he said, referring to the Middle East.

During the press conference, Safire, whose column appears in the Ann Arbor News, noted that last week's election results can partly be blamed on Democrats who opposed the war, but not too stridently; and opposed Bush's tax cuts, but were fearful of saying so. In addition, too much money was spent trying to beat Gov. Jeb Bush in Florida that could have been spent on other Democrats across the country.

Safire, a conservative Republican at a newspaper written largely by liberals, is a hawk who hopes the result of a war with Iraq will be the spreading of democracy in the Middle East.

He said the election proved people support Bush's foreign policy.

"Conservatism is better for the country than liberalism," he said, "because it's more tuned to individual freedom."

Bill Zirinsky of Ann Arbor is a regular reader of Safire's column and was interested in what he'd have to say Monday night. "Though he's a Nixon Republican, he manages to write an original column with interesting idea two times a week, and he's been doing it for 30 years," said Zirinsky.

"Ann Arbor has the highest per-capita readership of The New York Times outside of New York," said Jeff Levin, executive director of the Jewish Federation of Washtenaw County. "So we knew that Safire would be a recognized and intriguing personality to present to the community."

Safire, who lives in Chevy Chase, Md., and works at his paper's Washington bureau, looks back on an exciting and varied career as a reporter, columnist, correspondent, novelist, TV producer and historian.

But nothing beats what he does right now.

"Writing about politics for The New York Times is the greatest job in the world," he said.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 11/13/2002 8:39:39 AM PST by Dallas
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To: Dallas
Safire also voted for Clinton twice..
2 posted on 11/13/2002 8:40:46 AM PST by ewing
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To: ewing
It was a choice to further his career and "enliven his life."
3 posted on 11/13/2002 8:43:20 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: Dallas
Condoleezza Rice will defeat Hillary Clinton for the 2008 presidency

If I knew this were true, I could drop dead tonight and die with a smile on my face.

4 posted on 11/13/2002 8:43:21 AM PST by stanz
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To: Dallas
Condoleezza Rice will defeat Hillary Clinton for the presidency in 2008, New York Times political columnist William Safire predicted during a stop in Ypsilanti Monday.

Note to Bill Safire:

2008 is SIX YEARS away.
That's practically a millenium in politics.

Do you have a crystal ball?

5 posted on 11/13/2002 8:43:51 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: nutmeg
ping
6 posted on 11/13/2002 8:44:44 AM PST by stanz
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To: Constitution Day
I like how before Condi becomes President in 2008 she is governor of California. Where does Bill get the idea she is going to leave the administratin and become Gov or Califonia in 2006 and then quit halfway through to become President?
7 posted on 11/13/2002 8:45:29 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Dallas
Not a chance ~ JEB/RICE will probably defeat Hillary in 2008!
8 posted on 11/13/2002 8:45:59 AM PST by TatieBug
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To: Dallas
Great. Just what we need - two abortionists running for president in 2008.
9 posted on 11/13/2002 8:46:10 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Dallas
Condi won't run for President, Hitlery longs for the opportunity. Neither will become President.
10 posted on 11/13/2002 8:46:13 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: ewing
I am vey surprise to learn that Safire voted for Clinton? Is that true? I always thought he was a Republican?
11 posted on 11/13/2002 8:47:35 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: ewing
I remember, and forgave him the first vote, chalking it up to 'irrational exuberance'...I still hold a grudge against him for his second endorsement of the Raping Toon, and have held suspect everything he says and writes, since then.
12 posted on 11/13/2002 8:47:39 AM PST by jwfiv
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To: Dallas
Hitlery Klinton has more baggage than Greyhound...Mr Ed would beat her in 2008...
13 posted on 11/13/2002 8:48:10 AM PST by kellynla
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To: Constitution Day
Well, he DID say 'predicted'. That's not a statement of fact. I've heard many Freepers predict the same thing. And I, for one, would love to see it happen.
14 posted on 11/13/2002 8:48:36 AM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: ewing
Safire, like in the fire of hell - should he not obtain thinking capacity.
15 posted on 11/13/2002 8:49:08 AM PST by Hila
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To: Dallas
Condi will not run for President or Vice President at all. She is an academic, not a politician. The disturbing thing is the attitude of everyone who thinks the Republicans won't win by 2008 unless we run a black woman. We could be in an all-out shooting war with Islam by then, so it's a little early to assume that the forces of Hillary Clinton-style Political Correctness are going to triumph by default.
16 posted on 11/13/2002 8:50:23 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Phantom Lord
Possible, I think, but is it probable?
I wonder what Safire's thought process on that is.
17 posted on 11/13/2002 8:51:51 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: philosofy123
I thought Safire was a staunch GOP'er as well but I remember that he did write a column about voting for Clinton, so it didn't surprise me when someone said he voted for Bubba twice.
18 posted on 11/13/2002 8:52:11 AM PST by ewing
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
That's true.
I would also like to see it, but I just think that 6 yrs. is a damned stretch for making political predictions.

What do I know, though... I'm just a guy from rural NC. :)

19 posted on 11/13/2002 8:53:28 AM PST by Constitution Day
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Using a word processor after smoking crack, is no no.

Not exactly a career building combination.

20 posted on 11/13/2002 8:53:49 AM PST by Dallas
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To: TatieBug
Not a chance ~ JEB/RICE will probably defeat Hillary in 2008 <

What is this? A dynasty of Bushes! I did not want to vote for Bush initially because of that. I hate to see children capitalizing on parent’s money, and fame to get unearned positions ahead of the real experts and the worthy leaders. However, I held my nose and voted for this inarticulate Texan, any body is better then Gore. I do not regret my choice. As a matter of fact, I am pleasantly surprise of his leadership ability.

22 posted on 11/13/2002 8:55:34 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: Dallas
I don't believe Rice is pro-life. If thats true, she could never win the primary process.
23 posted on 11/13/2002 8:56:36 AM PST by iranger
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The disturbing thing is the attitude of everyone who thinks the Republicans won't win by 2008 unless we run a black woman. We could be in an all-out shooting war with Islam by then, so it's a little early to assume that the forces of Hillary Clinton-style Political Correctness are going to triumph by default.

Maybe there are other reasons to vote for Condi than the color of her skin or the shape of her genitals. Maybe some of us would vote for her because of her razor-sharp mind and her iron resolve in matters of foreign policy. You never can tell.

24 posted on 11/13/2002 8:57:20 AM PST by Physicist
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To: 1Old Pro
HRC will be drafted in 2004. She will run as FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT!

It's a crap shoot. By 2008 she'll be as ugly as Feinstein and Boxer.

HRC is blood-thirsty and she has the rapist as a campaign manager.

The suckermoms will bow down to her and flood the polls.

The stage is being set as we speak.

25 posted on 11/13/2002 9:00:25 AM PST by johnny7
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To: *Dr._Condoleezza_Rice; 1 FELLOW FREEPER; Aaron_A; Abn1508; Alex P. Keaton; ALOHA RONNIE; angelo; ...

26 posted on 11/13/2002 9:01:45 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I don't think the Beast can wait til 2008.
It gets older and uglier by the day, and if W is re-elected and holds the House and Senate his second term threatens to be one of great accomplishment.

The commies can't afford to have so much of their spider web of evil undone, it took forty years to get this far. I take the election of the sinister socialist Nancy Pelosi as a sign.

I'm going out on a limb and predicting IT will run in 04,
or never. It might even suck it up and run as Kerry's VP.
Easy enough to push him in front of a bus once the election's over.

In two years, the economy could still be a big issue, by 08, it will be settled and expanding, barring utter disaster.
27 posted on 11/13/2002 9:02:50 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Dallas
"Gridlock is great," he (Safire) said. "My motto is, 'Don't just do something. Stand there.'"

Thanks Bill. Coming from you, that means a lot. I think you're pretty cool, too.

28 posted on 11/13/2002 9:03:05 AM PST by gridlock
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To: johnny7
Gee, you type too fast for me, oh great mind.
29 posted on 11/13/2002 9:04:28 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Condi bump!
30 posted on 11/13/2002 9:10:38 AM PST by ewing
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To: Dallas
I worry that our party will wimp out on Condi the same way NY Dems wimped out on McCall. When those curtains close, how many people will lose courage?

Unless, of course, the alternative is Hillary! I'd vote for a differently abled, transgendered, adult-survivor-of-a-boo-hoo-childhood, Zoroastrian Jupiterian-Earthian before I'd vote for Hillary!
31 posted on 11/13/2002 9:11:29 AM PST by Norman Conquest
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To: Dallas
A woman president!?
32 posted on 11/13/2002 9:12:39 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"The disturbing thing is the attitude of everyone who thinks the Republicans won't win by 2008 unless we run a black woman."

I can't speak for others, but my favorable view of Condi has nothing to do with her being either female or black. I couldn't care less about either. I like Dr. Rice because she is brilliant and accomplished, particularly in the international arena since, as you suggest, we may be "in an all-out shooting war with Islam by then."

Rumsfeld is in great shape for his age, so how about a Rumsfeld/Rice ticket in 2008?
33 posted on 11/13/2002 9:14:11 AM PST by calenel
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To: calenel
We may never elect a 60+-year-old for president again.
34 posted on 11/13/2002 9:15:40 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: Physicist
Maybe some of us would vote for her because of her razor-sharp mind and her iron resolve in matters of foreign policy. You never can tell.

I look at Ms. Rice, and I don't see a black woman. I see a qualified, competent person, who, while not an ideal conservative, is still a fine choice for all but the one-issue voters.

35 posted on 11/13/2002 9:18:15 AM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: Dallas
Condi won't run. She's great as a policy advisor, but she has no evident political skills. You really ought to get elected to something else before you try running for president.

As to Hillary, no way she's going to wait 6 years and let some lesser democrat drag the party through a humiliating defeat in 2004. Her goal will be to duplicate Bubba's feat. Bush Sr also looked unbeatable half way into his first term. Hillary hasn't forgotten that, and the desire to show-up the hated Bush family once more is not an opportunity she will pass up.

36 posted on 11/13/2002 9:18:47 AM PST by Moosilauke
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To: Dallas
Wasn't National Security advisor Condoleezza Rice the one who failed to "connect the dots" which allowed 9/11 to happen?
37 posted on 11/13/2002 9:23:59 AM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Dallas
I hope he does'nt mean the Hildebeast will win in 2004......
Please...(does he know something I don't) a freudian slip maybe
38 posted on 11/13/2002 9:24:50 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: Dallas
Condoleezza Rice will defeat Hillary Clinton for the 2008 presidency

Nah. Rice will never get the 2/3 majority approval necessary in the U.N Security Council to confirm her appointment.

39 posted on 11/13/2002 9:26:38 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Dallas
Just a simple procedural note: "William Safire" did not write this piece. The byline on the source says Jo Collins Mathis did.
40 posted on 11/13/2002 9:28:34 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: Tuco-bad
You mean those "dots" the Clinton administration had been making for eight years?
41 posted on 11/13/2002 9:28:53 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Dallas
Safire is conservative in some respects, but he is strongly pro-abort.
42 posted on 11/13/2002 9:32:15 AM PST by Cicero
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To: stanz
If I knew this were true, I could drop dead tonight and die with a smile on my face.

Maybe so. But I bet you'd rather be around to see an enjoy it!

43 posted on 11/13/2002 9:32:46 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Dallas
Safire is a guy obsessed with his own "brilliance." He's got a cool persona (good for the tube, unlike Rush), but gives me a ROYAL pain in the arse. AFAIC, he is a liberal dressed up as a conservative.

I wish he would just shut up already!

44 posted on 11/13/2002 9:33:03 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Dallas
"Gridlock is great," he said.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

45 posted on 11/13/2002 9:36:09 AM PST by Camachee
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To: Hobey Baker
I think Condi could win. She's the Democrats' worst nightmare, and that alone makes me smile.

I bet dollars to donuts that if this were to happen, roughly 95% of the africanhyphenamericans and black americans combined would still vote demoncrap. They seem to love the old liberal plantation too much.

46 posted on 11/13/2002 9:36:15 AM PST by RushLake
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To: GraniteStateConservative
We may never elect a 60+-year-old for president again.

Ya gotta keep tabs of the 5-year-plans published by the UN politburo.
By 2008, American citizens will be ineligible for appointment to the presidency.

47 posted on 11/13/2002 9:40:44 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Dallas
Memo to Safire (you ignorant dolt): Quit dreaming - no pro-abortion candidate will EVER be nominated as Republican candidate for President in my lifetime (which has at least 40 years left), including Giuliani. In 2008, presuming Bush is re-elected in 2004, we'll most likely see brother Jeb, and possibly Frist, Gov. Owens, or, obviously, someone whose name most of us don't know yet. But rest assured, they will view abortion as the great evil that it is. Yes, yes, Bill - Nixon was god, and it was better to have Clinton in the White House than either Bush I or Dole. Loser.
48 posted on 11/13/2002 9:41:40 AM PST by GreatOne
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Being around to see it would be the icing on the cake!
49 posted on 11/13/2002 9:46:30 AM PST by stanz
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Easy enough to push him in front of a bus once the election's over.

LOL, but true.

50 posted on 11/13/2002 9:49:54 AM PST by stanz
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