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What did Dubya do in the war, daddy?
Toronto Star ^ | Nov 17, 2002 | LINDA MCQUAIG

Posted on 11/17/2002 10:41:55 AM PST by jody_b

It's often said that people just won't go into politics any more because of the intense media scrutiny one faces for even the smallest indiscretion in one's past. In fact, the media are temperamental beasts; fierce one day, gentle as lambs the next.

Certainly the media showed its soft side last week. As George W. Bush piously observed Veterans Day, media pundits somehow restrained themselves from pointing to the irony that the U.S. Commander-in-Chief, who's sometimes referred to as a "former fighter pilot," has an embarrassing military past. His records show that for months at a time during the Vietnam War, Bush could be classified as, at best, "absent without leave" (AWOL) or, at worst, as an army deserter.

This would be equivalent to the media withholding comment as former U.S. President Bill Clinton publicly espoused the virtues of marital fidelity.

Indeed, one hardly needs to wait for Veterans' Day to note the irony in Bush's military fervour. The man can scarcely contain his enthusiasm for war ? or at least for others going to war. As he inches closer each day to sending tens of thousands of American soldiers into Iraq (to be followed likely by hundreds of Canadian soldiers), any day would be appropriate for the media to satisfy its allegedly insatiable appetite for dirt on the rich and powerful by reporting the president's own military past.

The legwork has already been done by the Boston Globe, which dug up Bush's military records and interviewed his former military commanders.

While the paper published its dramatic findings during the presidential campaign of 2000, the rest of the media all but ignored the story and continue to do so, even as Bush has turned himself into arguably the most hawkish president in U.S. history.

It's not that the media are not hard on military laggards. While there were only 49 media stories about Bush's military past during his presidential campaign, there were a whopping 13,641 media reports on Clinton's Vietnam-era draft dodging during his first presidential race, according to former Clinton aide Paul Begala.

Begala made the observation on a media panel at a labour conference shortly after Bush's election. Other panelists, including journalists from major TV networks and Time magazine, agreed that Bush had had a much gentler ride, but attributed it to the media's alleged exhaustion after all the Clinton-era scandals.

Of course, it's possible Bush was so morally repelled by the U.S. slaughter in Vietnam that he just couldn't bring himself to participate. But probably not. Here's what we know.

Upon graduating from Yale, Bush applied for a position in the Texas National Guard, a coveted spot that required only part-time military duties at home, far from the battlefields of Vietnam. Bush was catapulted to the front of 500 other applicants after a friend of his father, then a wealthy Houston congressman, phoned the Speaker of the Texas House, according to the Boston Globe.

After completing training as a pilot, George W. Bush requested and immediately received a transfer to an Alabama National Guard unit in May, 1972. But Bush never showed up for duty there, according to the Alabama unit's commander and the commander's assistant, who were interviewed by the Boston Globe.

Military records show that Bush's two commanding officers back in Texas reported George W. did not show up for duty there either for a year, and that they believed he had been transferred to Alabama. Meanwhile, when Bush failed to take his required annual medical exam in August, 1972, his pilot status was removed.

It should be noted that reporting for military duty is not something that's optional, particularly during a war. Those caught shirking National Guard duties were usually punished by being drafted into the real army ? the one that landed you in Vietman, where some 350 American soldiers were killed each week. But, despite more than a year absent from duty, nothing happened to the well-connected George W. Bush.

Favouritism is a sore point among those who actually went to war, including U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell. As Powell wrote in his autobiography: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed ... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units ... Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal ..."

You've got to marvel at Powell's anger management skills.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: awol; barfalert; bush; canada
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To: jody_b
Why did you post this trash?
51 posted on 11/17/2002 11:39:56 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: jody_b
"I've read everything in this forum's archives on this topic. "

Responding to the Globe's report that his Alabama base commander had no recollection of Bush ever showing for drills, the governor said "I pulled duty in Alabama and I read the comments and the guy said he didn't remember me. That's 27 years ago, but I remember being there."

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a392cc0874ff3.htm

52 posted on 11/17/2002 11:40:23 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: jody_b
Do you realize how obvious you are? It is also quite obvious that you do not intend to take Miss Marple's advice and read the articles. This issue has been disected a million times and if there was any truth to it, the Democrats would not have let it go. The fact that President Bush did not put out a statement that meets with your satisfaction is really not the issue here. Your desire to perpetuate a lie IS. I think I hear DU calling you. Your crap won't work here.
53 posted on 11/17/2002 11:41:23 AM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: GOPJ
This trash was posted so that she could repeatedly ask where the "official" position is.

There is no "official" position on this ridiculous charge, just like there is no "official" position on Bush "starting the war for his oil buddies." It is so ridiculous that it doesn't merit an official response.

She will keep asking for the "official" position until the cows come home.

54 posted on 11/17/2002 11:42:07 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: jody_b
Why bother about the question, the paper is in a place that isn't even a country.
55 posted on 11/17/2002 11:44:45 AM PST by RWG
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To: Wait4Truth; Miss Marple; jody_b
Exactly right. You have been exposed, j_b. Leave quietly.
56 posted on 11/17/2002 11:45:00 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Note the leftyslut's confusion between the "Army," and the "Air Force."
57 posted on 11/17/2002 11:45:10 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Miss Marple
Time for this thread to die, Miss Marple? I think so.
58 posted on 11/17/2002 11:46:07 AM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: nygoose
I agree with you. I was only pointing out the reasoning that was successful in the cigarette lawsuits.
59 posted on 11/17/2002 11:49:50 AM PST by nygoose
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To: GOPJ
There's no harm in posting trash, so we know what the media are saying. What bothers me is the apparent malevolence with with jody_b keeps asking for official denials. The story is bogus, based on a nasty misinterpretation of the real facts.

I've read the records posted here. It looks to me as if Bush wanted to leave Texas in order to pursue a career, and had some problems with the National Guard bureaucracy. As a result, he missed some sessions and had to drop down from flying to deskwork. But he made up on his missed sessions. He was hardly AWOL. Instead, he was caught between doing regular national guard duties and the need to pursue a career and make a living at the same time. There were some minor irregularities which he straightened out.

Bush was a child of privilege, and he took some natural advantage of that. And his family naturally helped him out in the early years. But compared to Gore, for instance, Bush was a model of initiative and self-motivation. He was helped by his family, but after getting a good start he made his own way. That's more than you can say about Al Gore, or most of the Kennedys. There's scarcely a Kennedy since old Joe who has made his own way, and Joe made his way as a mobster.
60 posted on 11/17/2002 11:50:36 AM PST by Cicero
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To: nygoose
Disregard previous post. Browser/reply screw up.
61 posted on 11/17/2002 11:51:28 AM PST by nygoose
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To: jody_b
I hope the following shuts your ass up.

From the WashPost article dated, November.3,2000 and titled "2 Democrats: Bush Let Guard Down". Ari Fleischer responds to attacks from Sens. Bob Kerrey and Daniel Inouye, concerning GW Bushes Air National Guard Service.

Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer called the attacks "the final throes of a campaign that has now lost any semblance of decency. The governor, of course, was honorably discharged, and these are inventions and fabrications. All the questions have been answered."

62 posted on 11/17/2002 11:51:47 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Wait4Truth
Time for this thread to die, Miss Marple? I think so.

I hope so because I am tempted to call jody_b a lying putz and I'd hate to lose my reputation for civility.

63 posted on 11/17/2002 11:54:28 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: Reagan Man
I think she/he/it is gone.
64 posted on 11/17/2002 11:56:35 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: eddie willers
I don't have the stomach to look right now, but I suspect this thread is already mirrored on DU with a title like "FReepers admit GW was AWOL!"
65 posted on 11/17/2002 11:59:34 AM PST by m1911
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To: m1911
Wow, jody_b is gone. I wish they'd quit doing that. Now I can't go see what else they had posted. Had been here for a while, member since 2002-07-30. Sleeper cell? Or a regular poster?
66 posted on 11/17/2002 12:01:46 PM PST by m1911
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To: jody_b
There's no "official" response from the Bush White House regarding any leftist allegation of stupidity, drug use, killing political enemies, or President Bush going AWOL, and do you know WHY? You don't give credence to a lie by issuing a denial to it. (It's sort of like NOT answering the question of "when did you stop beating your wife?"). Instead, you let the real facts of the situation come out from legitimate third-party sources, such as what occurred here, and let people think for themselves. Your insistence on a response from the WH as "proof" of his loyalty is what people are objecting to as suspicious about your real agenda here. And you know what? I agree with them.
67 posted on 11/17/2002 12:04:30 PM PST by alwaysconservative
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To: m1911
Sleeper cell?

Yes.....and there are plenty of them out there.
Don't be surprised to see the occasional 1999 sign up date.

But a quick check of their posting history will guide you to a proper conclusion.

68 posted on 11/17/2002 12:05:51 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Undertow
Do you mean the man or the horse? (Sorry, I couldn't resist!) LOL!
69 posted on 11/17/2002 12:06:22 PM PST by alwaysconservative
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To: eddie willers
jody a lying putz? Nothing wrong with speaking the truth, eddie. That is not uncivil at all. This may be a new dredging up of this story. Just heard a black female panelist, Julianne Mulveau, say on CNN that President Bush had gone AWOL. Blitzer shut her down in two seconds flat.
70 posted on 11/17/2002 12:07:04 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: jody_b; Miss Marple
What question do you want answered?

The answer is he has a DD214, Honorable Discharge. Nothing more is needed. Questioned answered.

71 posted on 11/17/2002 12:07:36 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Thanks, deport. You always come through.
72 posted on 11/17/2002 12:10:11 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: jody_b
. Surely President Bush's staff must have prepared an official response at some time, so where is it?

Give it up jody, no one here is buying your little game.
I give it a D, much too transparent, needs more work.

73 posted on 11/17/2002 12:12:10 PM PST by epow
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To: jody_b
Just to let people know how the Guard works they don't require 4 years of active duty 24X7.

If someone serves say 6 months of active duty (Say like during Enduring Freedom last year) they completed their mandantory time.

But, their service is still required until their discharge date which is normally a four year commitment. During this time they usually don't attend monthly drills and I know many who don't even attend annual drills with their unit. They just attend some training during the year and use this to show they did something.

This is quite common even today so my point is the ANG is a totally different animal then Active Duty !

If I figured it correctly LT Bush served over 1.5 years of full time active duty and this would cover him for 20 years if he stayed in ?

74 posted on 11/17/2002 12:12:50 PM PST by Crossbow Eel
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To: m1911
J-B's history showed that there had been one other posting about a month ago. It too was about this subject.
75 posted on 11/17/2002 12:12:55 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: Reagan Man

she's pretty...pretty damn ugly.

76 posted on 11/17/2002 12:13:53 PM PST by Undertow
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To: deport
What is the official position on official postions ?
77 posted on 11/17/2002 12:14:06 PM PST by woofie
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To: epow
Apologies to all. I should have read the rest of the thread before I posted #73. I would have been satisfied to have just let the thread die the miserable death it deserves.
78 posted on 11/17/2002 12:15:30 PM PST by epow
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To: jody_b
Is the Toronto Star just another Maple Leaf Rag?
79 posted on 11/17/2002 12:15:35 PM PST by Consort
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To: Wait4Truth
jody a lying putz? Nothing wrong with speaking the truth, eddie

It was his oh so innocent "I'm-just-trying-to-get-the-official-response-so-we-can-defend-our-conservative-position" response over and over again that was the lie.

Had he/she survived, his next post would have been..."Who is Barry Seal?"

80 posted on 11/17/2002 12:19:34 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Wait4Truth; Miss Marple
I used to have all this info saved but that was two hard disc crashes and a couple of computers ago. Somewhere in one of the articles there was a link to the Honorable Discharge which was in a gif format.

But it's nothing more than smear that has been run over and over by a few die hards. It really doesn't even merit an answer but it's fun. Such as he was jumped to the head of the group of some 500 waiting.. Well sure he was. What they don't tell you is that there were 156 slots open in the 147th Fighter Group of which 26 were officer slots and 130 were enlisted slots. Also in those openings they had some 3 or 4 pilot slots. Thus when you got someone who wanted to be a pilot and could pass the required test they go in immediately. No big deal

81 posted on 11/17/2002 12:20:30 PM PST by deport
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To: Reagan Man
Just for the record, Linda McQuaig is a rabid anti-Bush zealot.

  Yeah, and she's ugly too.


82 posted on 11/17/2002 12:22:00 PM PST by Fintan
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To: jody_b

"Certainly the media showed its soft side last week. As George W. Bush piously observed Veterans Day, media pundits somehow restrained themselves from pointing to the irony that the U.S. Commander-in-Chief, who's sometimes referred to as a "former fighter pilot," has an embarrassing military past. His records show that for months at a time during the Vietnam War, Bush could be classified as, at best, "absent without leave" (AWOL) or, at worst, as an army deserter."

Source: Toronto Star, November 17th, 2002 by Linda McQuaig

Not so fast, lady...

She is just another of those who repeat the same old misinformation because it suits their story. It always starts with how easily Bush got into the Texas Air National Guard with very low test scores and lots of political help from his Father's friends. Here is some information to counter the bias.


Bush had scored only 25 percent on a "pilot aptitude" test, the lowest acceptable grade. But his father was then a congressman from Houston, and the commanders of the Texas Guard clearly had an appreciation of politics.

Source: The Washington Post, July 28 1999, page A1, "At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard " by George Lardner Jr. and Lois Romano, Fourth of seven articles

I think that the problem the news sources have with the "25" pilot aptitude score is that it is not a percentage, but they mis-report it as though it was one. And every one else just quotes it as gospel. Typical "pack" journalism which does not bother re-checking key "facts" if it contradicts the story line...


Four months prior to enlisting, Bush had taken the Air Force Officers Qualification Test at Westover Air Force Base in Massachusetts, scoring only 25 percent on the "pilot aptitude" section (the lowest acceptable grade) and 50 percent for navigator aptitude.

Source: The New American: Like Father, Like Son Vol. 15, No.19, September 13, 1999 by Robert W. Lee

The above uses of the word "percentage" show that most publications cannot discern the difference between raw scores and percentiles. Most news media feed off of each other reporting, and no one bothered to define the test that Bush and other pilot/navigator candidates were required to take. It is known as the "Air Force Officer Qualifying Test" (AFOQT), and has be administered since the early 1960s.

Now you either believe that the military has such low standards for pilot or navigator applicants that the below minimum qualifying scores are percentages, or you realize that they are raw scores in the AFOQT. The analogy would be the ACT college assessment test (low of 1 and high of 36). If it was reported that you had an ACT score of "25", would that mean you should consider a career in the food services industry? So be careful of numbers reported as data by newspapers. By the way, nearly half of all ACT test takers score within a much narrower range: 17-23. So a "25" ACT score would be none too shabby.


                                 AFOQT Tests Sections

Career      Pilot   Nav   Pilot+Nav   Verbal   Quantitative    Academic
Pilot        25     10        50        15           10         no min
Navigator    10     25        50        15           10         no min
Non-Rated
Operations   --     --        --        15           30         no min
               *Note: These are minimum qualifying scores

Source: Cadet guide: Air Force Officer Qualifying Test (AFOQT), (PDF page 4)

In President Bush's case, we can see from the New American article quoted above that he got a 25 on the pilot portion of the test, a 50 for the navigator portion of the test for a "Pilot+Navigator" combined raw score of 75. The minimum "Pilot+Nav" score is a 50. Again, these are not percentages! The primary purpose of the test is to slot potential aviators as either pilot or navigator candidates. Notice that the media's use of percentages makes it appear that not only did Bush barely get by, but he is stupid to boot since any "real" test does not have 25% as a passing grade. Subtle of them, wasn't it...

Now those tests are just acceptance qualifications. Just like having a 1300 SAT score may help you get into college, it does not mean you will be an outstanding student. Same about flying. Your on the job learning and testing in the demanding world of fighter pilots means that you are continuously being evaluated until you retire from flying.

From the below paragraphs from the Washington Post, I assume that his Father's influence did not account for his skill as an F-102 pilot. Cantakerous aircraft do not care who your parents are...


In December 1969, George W. returned to Houston to hone his skills and eventually fly solo on the all-weather F-102, firing its weapons and conducting intercept missions against supersonic targets. He learned with a verve that impressed his superiors, becoming the the first hometown graduate of the 147th's newly established Combat Crew Training School. The group's public relations office celebrated his solo flight in March 1970 with a press release that began:

"George Walker Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed. . . . As far as kicks are concerned, Lt. Bush gets his from the roaring afterburner of the F-102."

Brig. Gen. John Scribner, director of the Texas Military Forces Museum in Austin, said it was only natural that the Guard would have publicized Bush's service with special ceremonies and press releases. "That's how they do things, play it up big, especially since he was a congressman's son. That was important to the Guard," he said.


Source: The Washington Post, July 28 1999, page A1, "At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard " by George Lardner Jr. and Lois Romano, Fourth of seven articles


Now how about George Bush's Instructor Pilot. His opinion about Bush's F-102 flying skills should count for more that the newspapers incorrect facts about his entrance exam, shouldn't it?


I have heard about all I can stand of the military careers of the two presidential candidates. It's like two combatants arguing about who's Purple Heart carries the most weight. I have seen e-mails "splitting hairs" and making unsubstantiated claims against both candidates. I will not engage in this type of childish name-calling. The official records indicate that both individuals completed their military service obligations and received honorable discharges.

I can, however, give you some personal observations upon which I base my opinion of Governor Bush. George W. Bush arrived at Moody AFB, Georgia, for undergraduate pilot training (UPT) in 1968 as a member of the Texas Air National Guard. I was assigned as one of his Instructor Pilots. The atmosphere at this training base was somber and dead serious, as the student pilots were all either going to Vietnam or subject to being called up for combat duty as members of a Guard or Reserve unit.

George W. Bush put himself totally into the task of becoming the best aviator in the class. His unit flew Century Series jet fighters, which required the best pilots. There was no room for error, as these airplanes were unforgiving, and the price for a mistake was often the pilot's life. George W. Bush appeared to have that "fighter pilot attitude" from our first meeting. This attitude can best be described as: "I can handle the situation--regardless of the odds." He was extremely competitive and eager to learn every thing about his machine and the enemy's tactics. He was quick to pick up the flying skills necessary to maneuver an aircraft into a position to shoot down an enemy aircraft.


Source: Colonel Thomas G. Lockhard USAF (Ret)

Instructor Pilot Colonel Thomas G. Lockhart, USAF (Ret)
Colonel Thomas G. Lockhart, USAF (Ret)
SEA: F-105 -- 1965-66 F-4 -- 1971-72
Decorations: SS, DFC (4), AM (15)

Hope a few facts help to dispell some misconceptions.

Bush may not be everyone's cup of tea, but stupid jet fighter pilots don't get hired or retained by the US government to fly their aircraft. They do not go AWOL and continue in service. She needs to try another approach, as this tired one won't work when confronted with the facts.

All I can do is put out the facts and let others decide. Here is an article from the now defunct George magazine (John Jr's rag which died after he did) which investigated the Air National Guard record of George W Bush. Some of the supporting documents are linked. Had to paste the whole article that I saved since the GeorgeOnLine web site died with the parent magazine.


The Real Military Record of George W. Bush: Not Heroic, but Not AWOL, Either

By Peter Keating and Karthik Thyagarajan


For more than a year, controversy about George W. Bush's Air National Guard record has bubbled through the press. Interest in the topic has spiked in recent days, as at least two websites have launched stories essentially calling Bush AWOL in 1972 and 1973. For example, in "Finally, the Truth about Bush's Military Record" on TomPaine.com, Marty Heldt writes, "Bush's long absence from the records comes to an end one week after he failed to comply with an order to attend 'Annual Active Duty Training' starting at the end of May 1973... Nothing indicates in the records that he ever made up the time he missed." And in Bush's Military Record Reveals Grounding and Absence for Two Full Years" on Democrats.com, Robert A. Rogers states: "Bush never actually reported in person for the last two years of his service - in direct violation of two separate written orders."

Neither is correct.

It's time to set the record straight. The following analysis, which relies on National Guard documents, extensive interviews with military officials and previously unpublished evidence of Bush's whereabouts in the summer and fall of 1972, is the first full chronology of Bush's military record. Its basic conclusions: Bush may have received favorable treatment to get into the Guard, served irregularly after the spring of 1972 and got an expedited discharge, but he did accumulate the days of service required of him for his ultimate honorable discharge. ---------------

At the Republican convention in Philadelphia, George W. Bush declared: "Our military is low on parts, pay and morale. If called on by the commander-in-chief today, two entire divisions of the Army would have to report, 'Not ready for duty, sir.'" Bush says he is the candidate who can "rebuild our military and prepare our armed forces for the future." On what direct military experience does he make such claims?

George W. Bush applied to join the Texas Air National Guard on May 27, 1968, less than two weeks before he graduated from Yale University. The country was at war in Vietnam, and at that time, just months after the bloody Tet Offensive, an estimated 100,000 Americans were on waiting lists to join Guard units across the country. Bush was sworn in on the day he applied.

Ben Barnes, former speaker of the Texas House of Representatives, stated in September 1999 that in late 1967 or early 1968, he asked a senior official in the Texas Air National Guard to help Bush get into the Guard as a pilot. Barnes said he did so at the behest of Sidney Adger, a Houston businessman and friend of former President George H. W. Bush, then a Texas congressman. Despite Barnes's admission, former President Bush has denied pulling strings for his son, and retired Colonel Walter Staudt, George W. Bush's first commander, insists: "There was no special treatment."

The younger Bush fulfilled two years of active duty and completed pilot training in June 1970. During that time and in the two years that followed, Bush flew the F-102, an interceptor jet equipped with heat-seeking missiles that could shoot down enemy planes. His commanding officers and peers regarded Bush as a competent pilot and enthusiastic Guard member. In March 1970, the Texas Air National Guard issued a press release trumpeting his performance: "Lt. Bush recently became the first Houston pilot to be trained by the 147th [Fighter Group] and to solo in the F-102... Lt. Bush said his father was just as excited and enthusiastic about his solo flight as he was." In Bush's evaluation for the period May 1, 1971 through April 30, 1972, then-Colonel Bobby Hodges, his commanding officer, stated, "I have personally observed his participation, and without exception, his performance has been noteworthy." In the spring of 1972, however, National Guard records show a sudden dropoff in Bush's military activity. Though trained as a pilot at considerable government expense, Bush stopped flying in April 1972 and never flew for the Guard again.

Around that time, Bush decided to go to work for Winton "Red" Blount, a Republican running for the U.S. Senate, in Alabama. Documents from Ellington Air Force Base in Houston state that Bush "cleared this base on 15 May." Shortly afterward, he applied for assignment to the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron in Montgomery, Ala., a unit that required minimal duty and offered no pay. Although that unit's commander was willing to welcome him, on May 31 higher-ups at the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver rejected Bush's request to serve at the 9921st, because it did not offer duty equivalent to his service in Texas. "[A]n obligated Reservist [in this case, Bush] can be assigned to a specific Ready Reserve position only," noted the disapproval memo, a copy of which was sent to Bush. "Therefore, he is ineligible for assignment to an Air Reserve Squadron."

Despite the military's decision, Bush moved to Alabama. Records obtained by Georegemag.com show that the Blount Senate campaign paid Bush about $900 a month from mid-May through mid-November to do advance work and organize events. Neither Bush's annual evaluation nor the Air National Guard's overall chronological listing of his service contain any evidence that he performed Guard duties during that summer.

On or around his 27th birthday, July 6, 1972, Bush did not take his required annual medical exam at his Texas unit. As a consequence, he was suspended from flying military jets. Bush spokesperson Dan Bartlett told Georgemag.com: "You take that exam because you are flying, and he was not flying. The paperwork uses the phrase 'suspended from flying,' but he had no intention of flying at that time."

Some media reports have speculated that Bush took and failed his physical, or that he was grounded as a result of substance abuse. Bush's vagueness on the subject of his past drug use has only abetted such rumors. Bush's commanding officer in Texas, however, denies the charges. "His flying status was suspended because he didn't take the exam,not because he couldn't pass," says Hodges. Asked whether Bush was ever disciplined for using alcohol or illicit drugs, Hodges replied: "No."

On September 5, Bush wrote to then-Colonel Jerry Killian at his original unit in Texas, requesting permission to serve with the 187th Tactical Reconnaisance Group, another Alabama-based unit. "This duty would be for the months of September, October, and November," wrote Bush.

This time his request was approved: 10 days later, the Alabama Guard ordered Bush to report to then-Lieutenant Colonel William Turnipseed at Dannelly Air Force Base in Montgomery on October 7th and 8th. The memo noted that "Lieutenant Bush will not be able to satisfy his flight requirements with our group," since the 187th did not fly F-102s.

The question of whether Bush ever actually served in Alabama has become an issue in the 2000 campaign-the Air Force Times recently reported that "the GOP is trying to locate people who served with Bush in late 1972 ... to see if they can confirm that Bush briefly served with the Alabama Air National Guard." Bush's records contain no evidence that he reported to Dannelly in October. And in telephone interviews with Georgemag.com, neither Turnipseed, Bush's commanding officer, nor Kenneth Lott, then chief personnel officer of the 187th, remembered Bush serving with their unit. "I don't think he showed up," Turnipseed said.

Bush maintains he did serve in Alabama. "Governor Bush specifically remembers pulling duty in Montgomery and respectfully disagrees with the Colonel," says Bartlett. "There's no question it wasn't memorable, because he wasn't flying." In July, the Decatur Daily reported that two former Blount campaign workers recall Bush serving in the Alabama Air National Guard in the fall of 1972. "I remember he actually came back to Alabama for about a week to 10 days several weeks after the campaign was over to complete his Guard duty in the state," stated Emily Martin, a former Alabama resident who said she dated Bush during the time he spent in that state.

After the 1972 election, which Blount lost, Bush moved back to Houston and subsequently began working at P.U.L.L., a community service center for disadvantaged youths. This period of time has also become a matter of controversy, because even though Bush's original unit had been placed on alert duty in October 1972, his superiors in Texas lost track of his whereabouts. On May 2, 1973, Bush's squadron leader in the 147th, Lieutenant Colonel William Harris, Jr. wrote: "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit" for the past year. Harris incorrectly assumed that Bush had been reporting for duty in Alabama all along. He wrote that Bush "has been performing equivalent training in a non-flying status with the 187 Tac Recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama." Base commander Hodges says of Bush's return to Texas: "All I remember is someone saying he came back and made up his days."

Two documents obtained by Georgemag.com indicate that Bush did make up the time he missed during the summer and autumn of 1972. One is an April 23, 1973 order for Bush to report to annual active duty training the following month; the other is an Air National Guard statement of days served by Bush that is torn and undated but contains entries that correspond to the first. Taken together, they appear to establish that Bush reported for duty on nine occasions between November 29, 1972-when he could have been in Alabama-and May 24, 1973. Bush still wasn't flying, but over this span, he did earn nine points of National Guard service from days of active duty and 32 from inactive duty. When added to the 15 so-called "gratuitous" points that every member of the Guard got per year, Bush accumulated 56 points, more than the 50 that he needed by the end of May 1973 to maintain his standing as a Guardsman.

On May 1, Bush was ordered to report for further active duty training, and documents show that he proceeded to cram in another 10 sessions over the next two months. Ultimately, he racked up 19 active duty points of service and 16 inactive duty points by July 30-which, added to his 15 gratuitous points, achieved the requisite total of 50 for the year ending in May 1974.

On October 1, 1973, First Lieutenant George W. Bush received an early honorable discharge so that he could attend Harvard Business School. He was credited with five years, four months and five days of service toward his six-year service obligation.


Source: George Magazine (now defunct), October 15, 2000

Referenced Documents: Bush Air National Guard service record

and FOIA cover letter on information re: Bush service record

and FOIA information re: Bush service record


Hope this helps to counter the misinformation put out there about President Bush's Air National Guard service record. People do forget that his unit was transitioning to dual seat F-102s, and the Air National Guard did not wish to re-qualify him given his short time left with his Air National Guard service obligation. Just as he would be re-trained, he would be out of the serivce, and the money would have been wasted.


dvwjr

83 posted on 11/17/2002 1:17:36 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: Reagan Man
Why do leftist women refuse to use soap?
84 posted on 11/17/2002 1:18:34 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: dvwjr
Bookmarking and bumping.
85 posted on 11/17/2002 1:29:20 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
bumping and Bookmarking
86 posted on 11/17/2002 1:32:23 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: jody_b
You would think that if these lefties were that concerned about military service, they would have been way out front for George H. W. Bush and Bob Dole against Slick.
87 posted on 11/17/2002 1:34:16 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: jody_b
>>This would be equivalent to the media withholding comment as former U.S. President Bill Clinton publicly espoused the virtues of marital fidelity.

Ms. McQuaig, let's just talk about Bill Clinton, shall we? Moscow and England must have been real nice field trips for a Viet Nam era Military LOATHER, huh, Bitch?

88 posted on 11/17/2002 1:36:42 PM PST by Wondervixen
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To: alisasny
>>Clintons draft dodging ways were true yet the people did not care.

No, the people cared...The communist liberal media, whose job it is to REPORT THE NEWS, told us we didn't.

I think it's about time we burned the bastards to the ground and put the rest on the run for their lives, don't you?

89 posted on 11/17/2002 1:41:56 PM PST by Wondervixen
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To: jody_b
She supports GLOBLOONYISM for THIRD WORLDERS while they rape American tax payers. I'm very thankful poltiically We in the U.S. differ with the canadians on so many different levels. You can have your monarchy and your practically non-existant gun rights and hate speech laws.

US scuttles Tobin tax - and hope for the world's poor

American omnipotence wilts when faced with projects that could actually do some good

http://www.halifaxinitiative.org/hi.php/Tobin/266

90 posted on 11/17/2002 1:42:30 PM PST by Klunk
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To: dvwjr; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; RedBloodedAmerican
Oops. Forgot these additional documents referenced by the above cited George magazine article on Bush's Air National Guard career. These documents are the ones refered to in addition to the above posted documents.

First:Special Order, 1973

Second:Special Order, 1973

Third:Special Order, 1973

Hope this helps...


dvwjr

91 posted on 11/17/2002 1:48:24 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: jody_b
the U.S. Commander-in-Chief, who's sometimes referred to as a "former fighter pilot," has an embarrassing military past

Not like the sterling military record of one Bill CLinton, which record was conveniently ignored by these same self-righteous press vultures, most of whom have never seen barrack, bunk, or basic training.

92 posted on 11/17/2002 1:51:11 PM PST by IronJack
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To: jody_b
There are two possibilities as I see them.

First- there was never anything to the charge thus Bush didn't have to respond.

Second- Gore's record of service in Viet Nam was even more vulnerable and the press didn't want to touch Bush's record as it would open a can of worms.

Since all Gore could do was bring up the DUI charge from 30 years ago I doubt the veracity of this story highly. Since the press had literally hundreds of stories just on speculation of Bush's cocaine use without a shred of evidence to back it or even a named source (even lead off stories on the Networks)- this AWOL story must be a real turd- like the one that the Bush family made their money from NAZI germany.

93 posted on 11/17/2002 2:04:30 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Wait4Truth
Forgive a newbie his ignorance, but what is "DU"?? Thanks
94 posted on 11/17/2002 2:04:42 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: jody_b
Who Did Linda Spread Her Legs For in 1993-2001, Daddy?
95 posted on 11/17/2002 2:10:14 PM PST by Timesink
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To: jody_b
Bush was catapulted to the front of 500 other applicants after a friend of his father, then a wealthy Houston congressman, phoned the Speaker of the Texas House, according to the Boston Globe.

George H. W. Bush was a Republican Congressman from Houston for only four years 67 -71. During this entire time the Democrats ran everything in the Texas Legislature. Of the 181 Senators and Reps I bet no more than a dozen were Republicans and there were no more than two other US Congressmen from Texas who were Republicans. Wonder why the Speaker would bother?

96 posted on 11/17/2002 2:22:28 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: jody_b
It's not that the media are not hard on military laggards. While there were only 49 media stories about Bush's military past during his presidential campaign, there were a whopping 13,641 media reports on Clinton's Vietnam-era draft dodging during his first presidential race, according to former Clinton aide Paul Begala.

Begala made the observation on a media panel at a labour conference shortly after Bush's election.

Why would a punk like Begala make a statement that might come back to haunt him. Do you think that Carville/Begala/Schrum/Beckel/Clinton/Gore/Lenzner/Flynt team didn't try to find out before the election?

Perhaps they did and found out the records were lost in that big fire at the military records storage facility?

If so, the Dems could go on forever and there's nothing W could say or do that would end their Barbara Streisand.

We could answer "jody the b's" question by applying the Clinton Effect. That's where if you answer that kind of question, you're lying. For example, "I did not have sex with that woman" when you did have sex with that woman. If you answer the charge, you are guilty of the charge. As W has not answered, he's innocent of the charge.

Feel better now jody? Have I put your mind at reat?

97 posted on 11/17/2002 2:35:12 PM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: alwaysconservative
Instead, you let the real facts of the situation come out from legitimate third-party sources...

Agree, for example, the liberals can not quote a LIVING being who claims W did cociane. It's always someone who heard a dead person claim W used cocaine.

On the other hand, there's Roger Clinton bitching to his drug dealer that he needs more cocaine because Bill Clinton "has a nose like a Hoover".

The charges of Clinton's drug use are 1,000,000 times more credible than the AWOL charges against W.

Don't you agree?

98 posted on 11/17/2002 2:40:57 PM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: jody_b; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; dvwjr; RedBloodedAmerican; Miss Marple; Wait4Truth; epow; ...
Now that jodyb is gone, let me correct my too hasty post. I had forgotten some of the referenced documents, so here is the whole thing again...


"Certainly the media showed its soft side last week. As George W. Bush piously observed Veterans Day, media pundits somehow restrained themselves from pointing to the irony that the U.S. Commander-in-Chief, who's sometimes referred to as a "former fighter pilot," has an embarrassing military past. His records show that for months at a time during the Vietnam War, Bush could be classified as, at best, "absent without leave" (AWOL) or, at worst, as an army deserter."

Source: Toronto Star, November 17th, 2002 by Linda McQuaig

Not so fast, lady...

She is just another of those who repeat the same old misinformation because it suits their story. It always starts with how easily Bush got into the Texas Air National Guard with very low test scores and lots of political help from his Father's friends. Here is some information to counter the bias.


Bush had scored only 25 percent on a "pilot aptitude" test, the lowest acceptable grade. But his father was then a congressman from Houston, and the commanders of the Texas Guard clearly had an appreciation of politics.

Source: The Washington Post, July 28 1999, page A1, "At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard " by George Lardner Jr. and Lois Romano, Fourth of seven articles

I think that the problem the news sources have with the "25" pilot aptitude score is that it is not a percentage, but they mis-report it as though it was one. And every one else just quotes it as gospel. Typical "pack" journalism which does not bother re-checking key "facts" if it contradicts the story line...


Four months prior to enlisting, Bush had taken the Air Force Officers Qualification Test at Westover Air Force Base in Massachusetts, scoring only 25 percent on the "pilot aptitude" section (the lowest acceptable grade) and 50 percent for navigator aptitude.

Source: The New American: Like Father, Like Son Vol. 15, No.19, September 13, 1999 by Robert W. Lee

The above uses of the word "percentage" show that most publications cannot discern the difference between raw scores and percentiles. Most news media feed off of each other reporting, and no one bothered to define the test that Bush and other pilot/navigator candidates were required to take. It is known as the "Air Force Officer Qualifying Test" (AFOQT), and has be administered since the early 1960s.

Now you either believe that the military has such low standards for pilot or navigator applicants that the below minimum qualifying scores are percentages, or you realize that they are raw scores in the AFOQT. The analogy would be the ACT college assessment test (low of 1 and high of 36). If it was reported that you had an ACT score of "25", would that mean you should consider a career in the food services industry? So be careful of numbers reported as data by newspapers. By the way, nearly half of all ACT test takers score within a much narrower range: 17-23. So a "25" ACT score would be none too shabby.


                                 AFOQT Tests Sections

Career      Pilot   Nav   Pilot+Nav   Verbal   Quantitative    Academic
Pilot        25     10        50        15           10         no min
Navigator    10     25        50        15           10         no min
Non-Rated
Operations   --     --        --        15           30         no min
               *Note: These are minimum qualifying scores

Source: Cadet guide: Air Force Officer Qualifying Test (AFOQT), (PDF page 4)

In President Bush's case, we can see from the New American article quoted above that he got a 25 on the pilot portion of the test, a 50 for the navigator portion of the test for a "Pilot+Navigator" combined raw score of 75. The minimum "Pilot+Nav" score is a 50. Again, these are not percentages! The primary purpose of the test is to slot potential aviators as either pilot or navigator candidates. Notice that the media's use of percentages makes it appear that not only did Bush barely get by, but he is stupid to boot since any "real" test does not have 25% as a passing grade. Subtle of them, wasn't it...

Now those tests are just acceptance qualifications. Just like having a 1300 SAT score may help you get into college, it does not mean you will be an outstanding student. Same about flying. Your on the job learning and testing in the demanding world of fighter pilots means that you are continuously being evaluated until you retire from flying.

From the below paragraphs from the Washington Post, I assume that his Father's influence did not account for his skill as an F-102 pilot. Cantakerous aircraft do not care who your parents are...


In December 1969, George W. returned to Houston to hone his skills and eventually fly solo on the all-weather F-102, firing its weapons and conducting intercept missions against supersonic targets. He learned with a verve that impressed his superiors, becoming the the first hometown graduate of the 147th's newly established Combat Crew Training School. The group's public relations office celebrated his solo flight in March 1970 with a press release that began:

"George Walker Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed. . . . As far as kicks are concerned, Lt. Bush gets his from the roaring afterburner of the F-102."

Brig. Gen. John Scribner, director of the Texas Military Forces Museum in Austin, said it was only natural that the Guard would have publicized Bush's service with special ceremonies and press releases. "That's how they do things, play it up big, especially since he was a congressman's son. That was important to the Guard," he said.


Source: The Washington Post, July 28 1999, page A1, "At Height of Vietnam, Bush Picks Guard " by George Lardner Jr. and Lois Romano, Fourth of seven articles


Now how about George Bush's Instructor Pilot. His opinion about Bush's F-102 flying skills should count for more that the newspapers incorrect facts about his entrance exam, shouldn't it?


I have heard about all I can stand of the military careers of the two presidential candidates. It's like two combatants arguing about who's Purple Heart carries the most weight. I have seen e-mails "splitting hairs" and making unsubstantiated claims against both candidates. I will not engage in this type of childish name-calling. The official records indicate that both individuals completed their military service obligations and received honorable discharges.

I can, however, give you some personal observations upon which I base my opinion of Governor Bush. George W. Bush arrived at Moody AFB, Georgia, for undergraduate pilot training (UPT) in 1968 as a member of the Texas Air National Guard. I was assigned as one of his Instructor Pilots. The atmosphere at this training base was somber and dead serious, as the student pilots were all either going to Vietnam or subject to being called up for combat duty as members of a Guard or Reserve unit.

George W. Bush put himself totally into the task of becoming the best aviator in the class. His unit flew Century Series jet fighters, which required the best pilots. There was no room for error, as these airplanes were unforgiving, and the price for a mistake was often the pilot's life. George W. Bush appeared to have that "fighter pilot attitude" from our first meeting. This attitude can best be described as: "I can handle the situation--regardless of the odds." He was extremely competitive and eager to learn every thing about his machine and the enemy's tactics. He was quick to pick up the flying skills necessary to maneuver an aircraft into a position to shoot down an enemy aircraft.


Source: Colonel Thomas G. Lockhard USAF (Ret)

Instructor Pilot Colonel Thomas G. Lockhart, USAF (Ret)
Colonel Thomas G. Lockhart, USAF (Ret)
SEA: F-105 -- 1965-66 F-4 -- 1971-72
Decorations: SS, DFC (4), AM (15)

Hope a few facts help to dispell some misconceptions.

Bush may not be everyone's cup of tea, but stupid jet fighter pilots don't get hired or retained by the US government to fly their aircraft. They do not go AWOL and continue in service. She needs to try another approach, as this tired one won't work when confronted with the facts.

All I can do is put out the facts and let others decide. Here is an article from the now defunct George magazine (John Jr's rag which died after he did) which investigated the Air National Guard record of George W Bush. Some of the supporting documents are linked. Had to paste the whole article that I saved since the GeorgeOnLine web site died with the parent magazine.

The Real Military Record of George W. Bush: Not Heroic, but Not AWOL, Either

By Peter Keating and Karthik Thyagarajan


For more than a year, controversy about George W. Bush's Air National Guard record has bubbled through the press. Interest in the topic has spiked in recent days, as at least two websites have launched stories essentially calling Bush AWOL in 1972 and 1973. For example, in "Finally, the Truth about Bush's Military Record" on TomPaine.com, Marty Heldt writes, "Bush's long absence from the records comes to an end one week after he failed to comply with an order to attend 'Annual Active Duty Training' starting at the end of May 1973... Nothing indicates in the records that he ever made up the time he missed." And in Bush's Military Record Reveals Grounding and Absence for Two Full Years" on Democrats.com, Robert A. Rogers states: "Bush never actually reported in person for the last two years of his service - in direct violation of two separate written orders."

Neither is correct.

It's time to set the record straight. The following analysis, which relies on National Guard documents, extensive interviews with military officials and previously unpublished evidence of Bush's whereabouts in the summer and fall of 1972, is the first full chronology of Bush's military record. Its basic conclusions: Bush may have received favorable treatment to get into the Guard, served irregularly after the spring of 1972 and got an expedited discharge, but he did accumulate the days of service required of him for his ultimate honorable discharge. ---------------

At the Republican convention in Philadelphia, George W. Bush declared: "Our military is low on parts, pay and morale. If called on by the commander-in-chief today, two entire divisions of the Army would have to report, 'Not ready for duty, sir.'" Bush says he is the candidate who can "rebuild our military and prepare our armed forces for the future." On what direct military experience does he make such claims?

George W. Bush applied to join the Texas Air National Guard on May 27, 1968, less than two weeks before he graduated from Yale University. The country was at war in Vietnam, and at that time, just months after the bloody Tet Offensive, an estimated 100,000 Americans were on waiting lists to join Guard units across the country. Bush was sworn in on the day he applied.

Ben Barnes, former speaker of the Texas House of Representatives, stated in September 1999 that in late 1967 or early 1968, he asked a senior official in the Texas Air National Guard to help Bush get into the Guard as a pilot. Barnes said he did so at the behest of Sidney Adger, a Houston businessman and friend of former President George H. W. Bush, then a Texas congressman. Despite Barnes's admission, former President Bush has denied pulling strings for his son, and retired Colonel Walter Staudt, George W. Bush's first commander, insists: "There was no special treatment."

The younger Bush fulfilled two years of active duty and completed pilot training in June 1970. During that time and in the two years that followed, Bush flew the F-102, an interceptor jet equipped with heat-seeking missiles that could shoot down enemy planes. His commanding officers and peers regarded Bush as a competent pilot and enthusiastic Guard member. In March 1970, the Texas Air National Guard issued a press release trumpeting his performance: "Lt. Bush recently became the first Houston pilot to be trained by the 147th [Fighter Group] and to solo in the F-102... Lt. Bush said his father was just as excited and enthusiastic about his solo flight as he was." In Bush's evaluation for the period May 1, 1971 through April 30, 1972, then-Colonel Bobby Hodges, his commanding officer, stated, "I have personally observed his participation, and without exception, his performance has been noteworthy." In the spring of 1972, however, National Guard records show a sudden dropoff in Bush's military activity. Though trained as a pilot at considerable government expense, Bush stopped flying in April 1972 and never flew for the Guard again.

Around that time, Bush decided to go to work for Winton "Red" Blount, a Republican running for the U.S. Senate, in Alabama. Documents from Ellington Air Force Base in Houston state that Bush "cleared this base on 15 May." Shortly afterward, he applied for assignment to the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron in Montgomery, Ala., a unit that required minimal duty and offered no pay. Although that unit's commander was willing to welcome him, on May 31 higher-ups at the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver rejected Bush's request to serve at the 9921st, because it did not offer duty equivalent to his service in Texas. "[A]n obligated Reservist [in this case, Bush] can be assigned to a specific Ready Reserve position only," noted the disapproval memo, a copy of which was sent to Bush. "Therefore, he is ineligible for assignment to an Air Reserve Squadron."

Despite the military's decision, Bush moved to Alabama. Records obtained by Georegemag.com show that the Blount Senate campaign paid Bush about $900 a month from mid-May through mid-November to do advance work and organize events. Neither Bush's annual evaluation nor the Air National Guard's overall chronological listing of his service contain any evidence that he performed Guard duties during that summer.

On or around his 27th birthday, July 6, 1972, Bush did not take his required annual medical exam at his Texas unit. As a consequence, he was suspended from flying military jets. Bush spokesperson Dan Bartlett told Georgemag.com: "You take that exam because you are flying, and he was not flying. The paperwork uses the phrase 'suspended from flying,' but he had no intention of flying at that time."

Some media reports have speculated that Bush took and failed his physical, or that he was grounded as a result of substance abuse. Bush's vagueness on the subject of his past drug use has only abetted such rumors. Bush's commanding officer in Texas, however, denies the charges. "His flying status was suspended because he didn't take the exam,not because he couldn't pass," says Hodges. Asked whether Bush was ever disciplined for using alcohol or illicit drugs, Hodges replied: "No."

On September 5, Bush wrote to then-Colonel Jerry Killian at his original unit in Texas, requesting permission to serve with the 187th Tactical Reconnaisance Group, another Alabama-based unit. "This duty would be for the months of September, October, and November," wrote Bush.

This time his request was approved: 10 days later, the Alabama Guard ordered Bush to report to then-Lieutenant Colonel William Turnipseed at Dannelly Air Force Base in Montgomery on October 7th and 8th. The memo noted that "Lieutenant Bush will not be able to satisfy his flight requirements with our group," since the 187th did not fly F-102s.

The question of whether Bush ever actually served in Alabama has become an issue in the 2000 campaign-the Air Force Times recently reported that "the GOP is trying to locate people who served with Bush in late 1972 ... to see if they can confirm that Bush briefly served with the Alabama Air National Guard." Bush's records contain no evidence that he reported to Dannelly in October. And in telephone interviews with Georgemag.com, neither Turnipseed, Bush's commanding officer, nor Kenneth Lott, then chief personnel officer of the 187th, remembered Bush serving with their unit. "I don't think he showed up," Turnipseed said.

Bush maintains he did serve in Alabama. "Governor Bush specifically remembers pulling duty in Montgomery and respectfully disagrees with the Colonel," says Bartlett. "There's no question it wasn't memorable, because he wasn't flying." In July, the Decatur Daily reported that two former Blount campaign workers recall Bush serving in the Alabama Air National Guard in the fall of 1972. "I remember he actually came back to Alabama for about a week to 10 days several weeks after the campaign was over to complete his Guard duty in the state," stated Emily Martin, a former Alabama resident who said she dated Bush during the time he spent in that state.

After the 1972 election, which Blount lost, Bush moved back to Houston and subsequently began working at P.U.L.L., a community service center for disadvantaged youths. This period of time has also become a matter of controversy, because even though Bush's original unit had been placed on alert duty in October 1972, his superiors in Texas lost track of his whereabouts. On May 2, 1973, Bush's squadron leader in the 147th, Lieutenant Colonel William Harris, Jr. wrote: "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit" for the past year. Harris incorrectly assumed that Bush had been reporting for duty in Alabama all along. He wrote that Bush "has been performing equivalent training in a non-flying status with the 187 Tac Recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama." Base commander Hodges says of Bush's return to Texas: "All I remember is someone saying he came back and made up his days."

Two documents obtained by Georgemag.com indicate that Bush did make up the time he missed during the summer and autumn of 1972. One is an April 23, 1973 order for Bush to report to annual active duty training the following month; the other is an Air National Guard statement of days served by Bush that is torn and undated but contains entries that correspond to the first. Taken together, they appear to establish that Bush reported for duty on nine occasions between November 29, 1972-when he could have been in Alabama-and May 24, 1973. Bush still wasn't flying, but over this span, he did earn nine points of National Guard service from days of active duty and 32 from inactive duty. When added to the 15 so-called "gratuitous" points that every member of the Guard got per year, Bush accumulated 56 points, more than the 50 that he needed by the end of May 1973 to maintain his standing as a Guardsman.

On May 1, Bush was ordered to report for further active duty training, and documents show that he proceeded to cram in another 10 sessions over the next two months. Ultimately, he racked up 19 active duty points of service and 16 inactive duty points by July 30-which, added to his 15 gratuitous points, achieved the requisite total of 50 for the year ending in May 1974.

On October 1, 1973, First Lieutenant George W. Bush received an early honorable discharge so that he could attend Harvard Business School. He was credited with five years, four months and five days of service toward his six-year service obligation.


Source: George Magazine (now defunct), October 15, 2000

Referenced Documents:

Oops. Forgot these additional documents referenced by the above cited George magazine article on Bush's Air National Guard career.

First:Special Order, 1973

Second:Special Order, 1973

Third:Special Order, 1973


and: Bush Air National Guard service record

and: FOIA cover letter on information re: Bush service record

and: FOIA information re: Bush service record

Hope this helps to counter the misinformation put out there about President Bush's Air National Guard service record. People do forget that his unit was transitioning to dual seat F-102s, and the Air National Guard did not wish to re-qualify him given his short time left with his Air National Guard service obligation. Just as he would be re-trained, he would be out of the serivce, and the money would have been wasted.


dvwjr

99 posted on 11/17/2002 2:41:13 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: jody_b
You're not here now but just adding the DD214 which should clear up your concerns.....


100 posted on 11/17/2002 2:45:20 PM PST by deport
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