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Democrats Try to Stop Thurmond Aide
AP ^ | 11/18/02 | Jesse J. Holland

Posted on 11/18/2002 6:25:25 AM PST by The_Victor

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats plan to take one last shot at blocking one of President Bush (news - web sites)'s judicial nominees while they still control the Senate, hoping to defeat the promotion of a former aide to retiring Sen. Strom Thurmond (news, bio, voting record).

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The Senate set aside most of Monday to debate the appeals court nomination of U.S. District Judge Dennis Shedd. While under its current Democratic control, the chamber has only debated an appeals court nomination when party leaders wanted to kill it.

Shedd is a former assistant to the 99-year-old Thurmond, who will retire in January. Thurmond, R-S.C., has asked for Shedd's promotion to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va., before he ends his 48-year Senate career.

Democratic senators and liberal groups have criticized Shedd's ruling as a trial judge, saying he has been insensitive in civil rights and employment discrimination cases.

Republicans say Shedd has been a fine judge and lawyer, and should be confirmed as a retirement favor to Thurmond, the oldest and longest serving member of Congress.

None of Bush's judicial nominees has been voted down in the full Senate, although two were stopped in the Judiciary Committee (news - web sites).

The GOP takes control of the Senate when the 108th Congress convenes in January. Republican leaders say they will reconsider the two appeals court nominees that the committee voted down this year.

Liberal groups were incensed Thursday when the Judiciary Committee approved Shedd's nomination on a voice vote, the first time the panel has done that for a Bush appeals court nominee. Democrats control the committee 10-9, and could have killed the nomination for the year if all Democrats had officially voted against Shedd.

But outgoing committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., ruled that Shedd's proponents won the voice vote and didn't force a recorded vote.

The panel also approved Utah professor Michael McConnell for the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites) in Denver by voice vote, over objections by groups opposing his outspoken opposition to abortion. The full Senate completed his confirmation Friday night without debate or a roll call vote.

The actions upset liberal activist groups.

"We are very disappointed that senators who voted for Judge Shedd were unable to put the interests of the American people, whom they were elected to serve, over their personal affection for a retiring colleague," said Nan Aron, president of the Alliance for Justice.

Wade Henderson, executive director of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, said: "Senators who voted to confirm Dennis Shedd and Michael McConnell sent a clear signal to women, racial minorities, workers and consumers across America that their voices will not be heard."

The Senate has confirmed 99 of Bush's first 130 federal court nominations.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
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Ooooooh, these deomcRATs make me ill.
1 posted on 11/18/2002 6:25:25 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: The_Victor
I guess I'm not following this. Did the committee not approve Shedd on a voice vote to go forth to a full Senate vote? So what's left to debate now?

Heck, with all due respect to Sen. Thurmond and Judge Shedd, I hope the Dems are moronic enough to pull this junk again.

2 posted on 11/18/2002 6:29:17 AM PST by Coop
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To: The_Victor
Geez, the Rats want Landieu to win. Keep it up!
3 posted on 11/18/2002 6:29:21 AM PST by Credo
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To: The_Victor
Republicans say Shedd has been a fine judge and lawyer, and should be confirmed as a retirement favor to Thurmond, the oldest and longest serving member of Congress.

I'm sorry, but Shedd should be confirmed because he has been a fine judge and lawyer, not as some sort of going away present for Strom Thurmond.

4 posted on 11/18/2002 6:30:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: The_Victor
>>The actions upset liberal activist groups<<

Oooooooh!

Time to be scared!!!

5 posted on 11/18/2002 6:30:34 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: The_Victor
If you are a woman, racial minority, worker, or consumer......Wade Henderson speaks for you.

6 posted on 11/18/2002 6:33:23 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: Credo
Ah that didn't come out right! They're really angling for Landrieu to lose.

If she loses, Zig Zag Zell may zog his way across the aisle. Mr. Breaux may also contemplate eternity in the minority and an administration job may not look so bad after all. It sure beats the 3rd stall down from Jeffords.

Breaux has a 48 ACU rating compared to Rino Macspecter's 42 and Chafee's 44.

7 posted on 11/18/2002 6:33:42 AM PST by Credo
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To: The_Victor
The GOP takes control of the Senate when the 108th Congress convenes in January.

Ummm, doesn't the GOP "take control" in about a week when Talent is sworn in?

8 posted on 11/18/2002 6:34:23 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: Non-Sequitur
The minority groups who sent letters protesting Shedd, consisted of two individuals who were employed by civil rights lobbying groups.

How odd and hypocritical of the rats to dump judges on the basis of anything other than #1)Do they swear to and uphold the Constitution of the United States, #2)The previous rulings of said judge with respect to #1 above, and #3)A background check including their criminal record, credit history, and their willingness to adhere to the same laws that are forced upon little people.

9 posted on 11/18/2002 6:49:11 AM PST by blackdog
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To: The_Victor
I assume that the Senate Judiciary Committee, now 10 Democrats and 9 Republicans, will become 10 Republicans and 9 Democrats in January. But if Terrell wins in Louisiana, might it become 11 Republicans and 8 Democrats? An extra cushion as "RINO insurance" would be nice.

If Shedd is voted down in the lame duck session, can't he simply be renominated?

Looking forward to some more GOP gavel-wielders!

10 posted on 11/18/2002 6:49:43 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina
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To: KellyAdmirer
When Talent is sworn in the count will be 50 republicans 48 Democrats and 2 independents (Jeffords and the gut from MN). In order to get legislation passed (rightly or wrongly) Trent Lott has not called for a reorganization of the Senate in the lame duck session.

Stay well- Stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

11 posted on 11/18/2002 6:52:18 AM PST by harpseal
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To: KellyAdmirer
Maybe I'm wrong, but I swear they are not going to swear Talent in until the last day of this lame duck session.
12 posted on 11/18/2002 6:52:38 AM PST by Woodman
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To: Coop
I guess I'm not following this. Did the committee not approve Shedd on a voice vote to go forth to a full Senate vote? So what's left to debate now?

I'll provide my best understanding.

Shedd was not brought up for a vote (a brake of Lehey's promise to Thurmond). Now they approve on voice vote (all democRATs voting against, but Lehey declaring that the ayes have it. Debate will be on the floor of the Senate, obstructing other work, and as the author says, the only reason for debate is to kill the nomination, otherwise they are voted up or down by the full Senate. If I understand the procedures correctly, once voted down by the full Senate, the nominee cannot be brought back some significant period of time (I'm not sure about this).

Senate rules are always clear as mud.

13 posted on 11/18/2002 6:55:13 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: Non-Sequitur
I'm sorry, but Shedd should be confirmed because he has been a fine judge and lawyer, not as some sort of going away present for Strom Thurmond.

I thought the same thing when I read that. This is almost guaranteed to be the author's take on the Republican's defense of Shedd.

14 posted on 11/18/2002 6:57:24 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: southernnorthcarolina
RATS are just trying to rile up the black vote in Louisiana for Landrieu... forcing her to vote against Shedd... it means that she is behind Terell in her race, or they would never go with such a high-risk strategy... by making Landrieu vote against Shedd, they are antagonizing the GOP base for Terrell and giving Terrell a damn good campaign issue with her base.

As to committee ratios, if Terrell wins, the Senate becomes 52-47-1, which means that we would pursue a 10-8 or 11-9 committee split. I like the 10-8 better because it means two RATS get kicked off the committee.
15 posted on 11/18/2002 6:58:28 AM PST by mwl1
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To: KellyAdmirer
Ummm, doesn't the GOP "take control" in about a week when Talent is sworn in?

democRAT governor of Missouri will not certify the election until after the lame duck session is over.

16 posted on 11/18/2002 6:58:48 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: The_Victor
"saying he has been insensitive in civil rights and employment discrimination cases."

In other words, he follows the law.
17 posted on 11/18/2002 7:00:12 AM PST by bumba_rasclot
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To: **South_Carolina
South Carolina bump for Dennis Shedd!
18 posted on 11/18/2002 7:27:54 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: southernnorthcarolina
If Shedd is voted down in the lame duck session, can't he simply be renominated?

If the Committee votes you down yes. When the entire Senate votes, and you lose, you may not be renominated for that seat.

19 posted on 11/18/2002 7:33:33 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: The_Victor
"But outgoing committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., ruled that Shedd's proponents won the voice vote and didn't force a recorded vote. "

Baloney. The weasels didn't want their individual names recorded and reported in the "Nay" column.

20 posted on 11/18/2002 7:51:30 AM PST by Darlin'
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To: mwl1
I thought there was support for Shedd among blacks in SC. If that's true, how can this issue be used to drum up black support for Landrieu in LA?
21 posted on 11/18/2002 7:52:29 AM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
You are correct, but facts and the truth have never stopped the left in its lustful march for power.
22 posted on 11/18/2002 8:01:55 AM PST by mwl1
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To: southernnorthcarolina
>>If Shedd is voted down in the lame duck session, can't he simply be renominated?<<

If the Senate (as an institution) does not consent to a nomination, it is very, very unlikely that the individual involved would be renominated.

23 posted on 11/18/2002 8:15:44 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
When the entire Senate votes, and you lose, you may not be renominated for that seat.

Where did you find this info? I checked the text of the Constitution, and it is not explicitly in there. It would make sence to limit renominations in some way, but I didn't realize that a nay vote by the entire Senate was for life.

24 posted on 11/18/2002 8:40:44 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: The_Victor
I'm trying to figure out what religion got into Leahy. He seemed impervious to public opinion before in his stalling tactics. Does he know something about sending Shedd to the Senate floor that we don't? Like a filibuster is in the works? He dumped on his fellow Dem committee members with accepting the voice vote, I thought, unless there is some other hidden agenda involved. It just seemed weird to me, but maybe I'm just getting paranoid.
25 posted on 11/18/2002 9:30:41 AM PST by alwaysconservative
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To: The_Victor
Whoa..the Gov. is originally on record with this: Missouri's governor, Democrat Bob Holden, said Talent's election won't be certified until all the absentee ballots are counted and every county's vote confirmed. That will be Nov. 22, more than a week after the lame-duck session begins

Did he go back on his word ? I'm Shocked, SHOCKED I tell you.
26 posted on 11/18/2002 10:13:29 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: alwaysconservative
If democRATs have agreed to stick together on this, then Shedd gets voted down 51 to 49. He's not simply stalled in the committee, his nomination is over. According to HoustonCurmudgeon (see post #19) he cannot be renominated. If Leahy leaves Shedd's nomination in the committee, then it can be brought out next session for a vote. This is simply a last ditch democRAT stab at Thurmond.
27 posted on 11/18/2002 10:39:30 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: The_Victor
I believe this is one of the Senate’s “most elite club in the world” rules. Once they shoot you down, even your friends won’t try to bring it back up.
28 posted on 11/18/2002 10:42:57 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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