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Dissing the Alamo (National Review columnist says Powell Should be Fired)
National Review Online ^ | David Frum

Posted on 11/18/2002 7:57:30 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

NOV. 18, 2002: DISSING THE ALAMO Powell Disses the Alamo: Colin Powell should have been fired yesterday – literally. The Washington Post yesterday posted its first excerpt from Bob Woodward’s new book, Bush at War. Like Woodward’s book on the Gulf War, The Commanders, Bush at War is essentially an edited transcript of Powell leaks, all of them calculated to injure this administration and undermine its policies on the very eve of military action against Iraq.

For more than a year, we’ve been reading nasty little stories in the papers about Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, and Donald Rumsfeld and condescending stories about President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and Condoleezza Rice. Careful readers have understood that these stories emanated from the State Department – but until now, Powell has taken care to protect his personal deniability. Now he has abandoned that polite pretense.

In the Woodward piece, Powell scorns the president for his “Texas, Alamo macho.” (I guess Powell thinks Col. Travis should have negotiated.) Powell complains with Senate Democrats that acting against Iraq “would suck the oxygen” out of the anti-terror campaign. He denigrates Rice, snidely observing that “she had had difficulties” keeping up with what Bush was doing. When the president over-rules him, Powell complains that he thought he had a “deal” – as if cabinet members bargain with their president rather than taking orders from him. Powell repeatedly praises himself or repeats the praise of others: We learn from him about a personal call from Rice in which she compliments one of his presentations as “terrific,” and we hear via Woodward that Powell is “smooth, upbeat ... eloquent.” Amazingly, Powell even manages to insert into this long uncontrolled soliloquy of accusation against his colleagues a complaint that they sometimes leak against him!

“[Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage] had heard from reliable media contacts that a barrage was being unloaded on Powell. ... The White House was going to trim Powell’s sails; he was going to fail. Armitage said he couldn’t verify who was leaking this, but he had names of senior people in Defense and in Cheney’s office. ‘That’s unbelievable!’ Powell said.”

There is no sin in a cabinet officer dissenting from the policies of his president. Nor is it necessarily wrong for him to take his dissent to the country. But before he makes his dissent public, he should resign – and if he won’t resign, he should be sacked. Instead of representing the United States to the world, Powell sees his job as representing the world to the United States. It’s time for him to go.

Homeland Security: My wife and I took the Acela train from Washington to New York City on Sunday morning. My wife, who is not quite so convinced of her personal invulnerability as I am, was more than a little disturbed by the total absence of any security procedures. The conductors barely glanced at our tickets; they never asked for any ID – this on the very first weekend after the FBI announced the threat of massive imminent attacks on American transportation network and national symbols.

But then, maybe the Amtrack conducts knew what they were doing. Whatever country Amtrak is a symbol of – it ain’t America. Brazil maybe.

Single Payer, Part Deux: Friday’s post on the merits and demerits of single-payer health systems like Canada’s provoked an avalanche of e-mail – far too many to respond to each individually. I’m truly sorry about that. I’m sorry too about the typographical errors in the post, which concerned a number of the e-mailers: I write these diary entries very late at night or very early in the morning, and my fingers do sometimes stumble.

Let me try here to reply to the main criticisms I received.

1. My friends over at the New Republic point out that Canada spends only about 9% of its GDP on healthcare as against America’s 14%. The long delays in treatment that Canadians suffer can therefore be blamed – not on the system itself – but on Canada’s failure to fund the system adequately.

This line of defense is often heard in Canada itself. I sometimes think that the words, “We need more government funding,” should appear on Canada’s coins in the spot where the words “E Pluribus Unum” appear on America’s. Here’s the answer.

a) The gap between America’s spending on patient treatment and Canada’s is not as big as the raw percentages might suggest. For example, America’s 14% figure includes the cost of the vast American medical research program. The budget of the National Institutes of Health alone - $27 billion in fiscal 2003 – is larger than the total healthcare expenditures of the provinces of Ontario and Quebec combined. (The provinces are the main funders of Canadian healthcare; Ontario and Quebec are the two biggest provinces, home between them to more than half of Canada’s population.) Canada does little medical research. In healthcare as in defense, Canada piggybacks for free on America’s costly efforts.

b) Much of the differential between the cost of the Canadian and American systems is achieved by the brutal squeezing of the incomes of doctors and nurses. While this may have some impact on staff morale and may contribute to a reduction in the skill level of medical staff, it has little relevance to the issue of waiting times.

c) The Canadian population is demographically different from America’s in important ways. The average age of the Canadian population is lower than that of the United States. There is less obesity in Canada, fewer premature births, fewer victims of assault and attempted homicide. Canadians also drive fewer miles per year than Americans. These differences impose costs on the United States that the Canadian system does not bear. Even under exactly identical health-care policy regimes, one would expect health-care expenditure in the United States to be significantly higher than in Canada.

d) Advocates of single payer often cite Canada’s lower expenditure on healthcare as an argument in favor of the Canadian system. Then, when confronted with the evidence of the Canadian system’s failure, they admit that America’s 14% is not all frittered away on advertising and obscene HMO profits – that it does indeed buy superior care. But if the American system is not riddled with waste that single-payer will squeeze out, then extending a single-payer system to cover the entire U.S. population will be just as hugely expensive as conservative critics fear.

2. Many readers have pointed to Canada’s high average life expectancy as proof that its healthcare system can’t be all bad. But (see point c above) there’s much more to public health than a healthcare system. Hike cigarette taxes and life expectancy will rise, no matter how lousy the hospitals are. The test of a healthcare system is not life expectancy of the population as a whole – it’s the life expectancy of people once they get sick. Here Canada’s record is not so good.

3. Some cosmopolitan readers note that other single-payer systems, Germany’s usually, deliver more satisfactory results than do Canada’s and Britain’s. That’s true – precisely because the German system is much more decentralized and offers more choice (and demands more responsibility) than do Canadian Medicare or Britain’s NHS. Some socialized healthcare systems are more socialized than others, and the more socialized they are, the worse they do.

4. Yes, yes, yes, America’s healthcare system is flawed. It’s overly litigious, it discourages people from changing jobs, it is often wasteful, and it abandons too many people to charity medicine. Yes, yes, yes, America’s healthcare system – which probably should not be called a “system” at all – is in need of reform. The question is not, “Is America perfect?” The question is, “Would single-payer be an improvement?” And the answer to that question – despite Al Gore – is no, no, no.


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To: oline
Thanks; I thought I remembered that part of the interview on 60 Minutes, clearly Bush's voice.
41 posted on 11/18/2002 9:03:45 AM PST by katze
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To: Common Tator
There is a reason the Leftist dominated Public TV carried William F. Buckley's Firing Line.

Correct. Look at the initial backers and contributers to National Review. Communists almost to the man (McManus' book goes into this in great detail). All of them. Aside from a couple of CIA types. There is nothing conservative about NR. Never has been. They have had a few good writers off and on, but as soon as they stepped out of Buckley's globalist reservation, they were given the ax.

42 posted on 11/18/2002 9:04:46 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; section9
I am not interested in a major argument. I just think that many of these "leaks" do not come from forces which are supportive of the President, and thus should be taken with a grain of salt. The link you provided gives some background on old policy decisions he supported, some of which were contrary to what we know NOW as the correct course.

If President Bush said "loathe" in a tape, I would be interested to know where Drudge got the tape.

Chris (section 9) brings out a point I had forgotten...that Alma Powell and Condi Rice are friends.

There is a great deal of mischief making in the Washington press. They do not get the 24/7 schmoozing that Clinton gave them, and they resentful. I would direct you to Bill Sammon's book on the war on terr, Fighting Back. There was no hint of this type of undermining in Sammon's book (although there was a lot of stuff which shows how odious Dana Milbank is...HA!).

43 posted on 11/18/2002 9:05:53 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Swartzcoff (sic) wanted to take the war to Bagdad and finish off Saddam.

When they washed your brain they didn't get it clean. What did they use, Woolite?

44 posted on 11/18/2002 9:08:27 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Miss Marple
Oh, I see that the tape was played on 60 Minutes. That explains it.

I still can't get over him using that word. How odd.

45 posted on 11/18/2002 9:08:46 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Powell was brought on board for the black vote in 2000
It really worked didn't it
Now Bush is stuck with him
46 posted on 11/18/2002 9:16:58 AM PST by uncbob
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To: oline
IIRC, he added a comment about Kim "starving his own people".
47 posted on 11/18/2002 9:21:02 AM PST by katze
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I'm actually surprised by the amount of support Powell receives from a number of posters on this thread.

I would think it would be better to make your case against Powell on a thread that isn't asking us to form an opinion based on a writer accepting the characterizations of Bob Woodward.

48 posted on 11/18/2002 9:22:44 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Zviadist
Gen. Swartzcoff (would someone please give me correct spelling of his name?) is opposed to a new war on Iraq, because our troop strength is way down, thanks to Billy-Boy Clinton.

But the fact remains, it was Colin Powell that talked Pres. Bush 41 to NOT take the war to Baghdad and finish off Saddam.

Swartzcoff was on a roll and ready to go to Baghdad.
He was as right on the money about Saddam, as Patton was about Stalin.

Powell, then and now, is more an obstacle than he is an assett.

He is a globalist, and does not have nearly the cahones, or the interests of the US that some think he has.
49 posted on 11/18/2002 9:24:49 AM PST by FBD
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To: Common Tator
"When they washed your brain they didn't get it clean. What did they use, Woolite?"

LOL ;) I thought us conservatives were supposed to stick to issues and not use ad hominem attacks?

I'll give you that one, kind of funny, but I don't recall saying anything insulting to you.

The good thing about being a conservative is, we don't have to walk LOCKSTEP with people on our side of the isle, THANK GOD.

And don't think for a minute that Colin Powell is a CONSERVATIVE!
50 posted on 11/18/2002 9:32:53 AM PST by FBD
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To: Common Tator
Dear CT:

Interesting point about the middle initial. I remember reading something years ago that while the use of a middle initial is pretentious, even worse is the formulation in which an initial is used to replace the first name, as in:

H. Carl McCall

Personally, I just grew up being taught to use my middle initial, but stopped doing so some years ago (frankly it might have been that article that influenced me)!

Yours truly,

G. Least GovernsBest
51 posted on 11/18/2002 9:44:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Come on, why would anyone believe anything written by Bob Woodward???

Exactly. Bob Woodward is the Madame Cleo of journalism. He *reads* people's thoughts, and the worst of it is that he should have been debunked years ago.

He even wrote in his book "Veil" that William Casey talked to him right before Casey's death, even though all the doctors and family said that Casey was comatous and surrounded at all times by family, friends, and guards. The guy's a liar and a very poor writer - too luridly dramatic.

52 posted on 11/18/2002 9:52:37 AM PST by xJones
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To: CaptainK
"In the Woodward piece, Powell scorns the president for his “Texas, Alamo macho.”

Did Woodward received this information from Powell's mouth or was it transferred via telepathy?

Actually, Woodward got it from Abba Eban, via his own very special telepathic channels. I wouldn't believe anything Bob Woodstein wrote, including any occurrences of the words, "the", "is", "and" and "I". What an odious little slug he is.

53 posted on 11/18/2002 10:23:26 AM PST by Bedford Forrest
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
Gen. Swartzcoff (would someone please give me correct spelling of his name?) is opposed to a new war on Iraq, because our troop strength is way down, thanks to Billy-Boy Clinton.

Yeah That is a big concern I have .
I just wish somebody in the administration had the cohones to go after Clinton for it ( maybe after Rumny gets it back up if ever)

However Iraq's sure hasn't improved
54 posted on 11/18/2002 10:42:36 AM PST by uncbob
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I never had a good feeling about Powell although before the president took office I was unable to put my finger on it. I have not changed my opinion of him.
55 posted on 11/18/2002 10:48:53 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Common Tator
There are two things you know about any man who uses his middle initial in his name. First he deep down thinks he is inferior. He must use an initial to stand out. Secondly he thinks the people he is trying to impress with look up to a middle initial.

You mean, like FDR, Harry S, Dwight D, John F and George W?

Would it imrpress you if I became Common F. Tator?

No. But I don' think there's much else you could do either.

He impressess the unknowing, ignorant and less bright. He does not impress much of anyone else.

Thanks you for speaking for the rest of us, but actually, I find Buckley an entertaining and insightful writer.

Right Dubya Professor.

56 posted on 11/18/2002 11:18:20 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Formerly Brainwashed Democrat
The good thing about being a conservative is, we don't have to walk LOCKSTEP with people on our side of the isle, THANK GOD.

Sorry, it's hard to take lectures on conservatism from one who has self-professed to have been taken in by the siren song of the left. So you join the Right and now want to lecture the rest of us -- who have always been here -- about what it means to be conservative? No thank you.

57 posted on 11/18/2002 11:57:19 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Right Wing Professor
You mean, like FDR, Harry S, Dwight D, John F and George W?

FDR used his middle name Delano to convey to the world that he was descended from the Delano family. That was a distinct political advantage in New York when he ran for Governor. He never was addressed as Franklyn D. Roosevelt except for his political enemies. The people that hated FDR called him Franklyn D. Roosevelt. The same was true of Truman. H.V. Kaltenborn on NBC could say Harry S. Truman and make it sould like he said "Dirty M*ther F*cker" The S came out like the word "M*ther." The Delano was as important to Roosevelt as Fitzgerald was to Kennedy. It meant votes.

No one ever called Harry S. Truman, Harry S to his face. Not if He did not want to land hard on his a$$. He was Harry or Truman. He never used his S to impress people. His enemies called him that all the time.

The same way with IKE. Ike never presented himself as Dwight David Eisenhower or Dwight D. Eisenhower he was universally known as IKE. That is why people liked IKE. When the media wanted to trash him he was Dwight D. Eisenhower. Reporters that liked him called him IKE.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy was never known as John F. Kennedy except by his poticical enemies. He used the Fitzgerald middle name so every voter in the House and Senate races of Mass was sure to know he was the grandson of that great vote getter and legendary Boston mayor Honey Fitzterald.

Repubicans liked to call him John F. Kennedy, but JFK tried to get people to call him Jack. Using a friendly first name and avoiding pretention is a way to get people to like you. Getting people to like you is the way you get elected and respected. That is why GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH likes people to call him Dubya. It makes him a nice guy. He earns respect by what he does not by trying to flaunt a prestigous initial.

George W used the Dubya to distinguish himself from the other George Bush who was in the same profession. He quickly turned that into a nickname of Dubya. Dubya does not have an inferiority complex. But no one in the white house could keep their job by introduding him as George Herbert Walker Bush. If NR employees don't call William F. Buckley Jr. William F. Buckley Jr. they would get their a$$ fired in a heart beat.

I will grant you that William F. Buckley uses the F to distinguish himself from other F ers. He needs to.


58 posted on 11/18/2002 12:49:29 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Zviadist; Mr. Lucky
Bump.
59 posted on 11/18/2002 2:45:23 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: Common Tator
There are two things you know about any man who uses his middle initial in his name. First he deep down thinks he is inferior.

Buckley should be more like you and dispense with the middle initial. Then he'd be someone I could respect.

60 posted on 11/18/2002 5:06:17 PM PST by WarrenC
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