Skip to comments.Atkins diet beats low-fat fare
Posted on 11/18/2002 5:32:27 PM PST by Paradox
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Lite Beer from Miller is fairly low carb, and I've seen ads lately for a low carb beer from Michelob (haven't tried it yet). Certainly these are not as tasty as, say, the beer that's the same as your screen name, but being on this diet doesn't mean that you can't have those beers, it's just not every day.
The other thing about this diet that people seem to misunderstand is that you don't have to go overboard on the fat. You can eat lean cuts of meat and poultry, and more fish, as well as other sources of protein. Just cut back on the carbs. It really works.
The book "Protein Power" has some very good information in it, especially on what happens to your cholesteral levels when you're on this type of a diet. I learned more than I ever wanted to know about cholesterol just from that one chapter.
If you use 93 percent lean meat, your chili recipe will meet Weight Watchers guidelines.
If I had posted that on DU, I'd be real worried that someone would have belived me.
Now I have osteoarthritis and can't exercise like that any more, went onto Atkins and lost 50 pounds in 5 months.
Anybody going to comment on this ?
Since I'm a glutton for punishment, I'll speak what little I know about veggies. My niece is a vegetarian, pure. No milk/egg/cheese as some vegetarians allow themselves. I don't know if she does it for political purposes or not. I will say that she is quite healthy.
Now here's a couple of points about eating vegetables (which we all need to include in our diets). First, does anybody realize just how much broccoli one would need to consume to get just 1000 calories? So, suffice to say that vegetables aren't energy-dense. Now, granted, veggetarians do not consume just broccoli. They eat whole grains, fruits, and a variety of vegetables. I'm just using broccoli to illustrate a point.
Here's another consideration; a vegetarian diet makes it difficult to obtain adequate protein and calcium. It isn't impossible, but its more difficult and takes a more conscious effort. So, vegetarians, as a rule, are much more cognizant of what they eat when compared to the rest of us. Aside from athletes, nutritionists, and those who are dieting, who in the general population really pays that much attention to what they eat? Not too many of us. So, with this in mind, it stands to reason that a vegetarian will have a better grasp, in general, than most of us carniverous folks. They have to.
The third point I want to make is that many vegetarians are also athletically inclined. While few are bodybuilders, there are many that are runners, cyclists, and just general fitness-minded people. Like all fitness-minded folks, they tend to be in good physical shape. Just something to keep in mind.
My final point is that just because someone is thin does not mean they are healthy nor does it mean that their bodyfat percentage is low. I know a few people that are thin, but are also quite weak and frail. I'm not trying to stick this condition onto vegetarians; I'm simply pointing out that thin does not equal healthy. Now, a thin person is more likely to have low bodyfat and good cholestoral (sp?) numbers, but it certainly isn't a given. Many people are thin by nature.
These are just my comments from reading about vegans and from observing the few that I've known. In short, its a workable diet scheme, but you do have to work at maintaining certain nutrient levels, and it is more difficult to get adequate calorie intake without meat and animal-based foods. Plus, you don't get to enjoy prime rib and the like. :)
There's locarb beer and I'm told it tastes pretty good. You'd have to try it...I detest beer anyway. Tastes like soap. As for bread, that's a hassle with a locarb life. What really helped was discovering "Irene's Gluten Bread" sold frozen in some health stores. Very good homemade-tasting bread, only 4 grams carbs per slice. If you crave a tater, take one and make it into a soup for everyone, and take a portion. Take a couple of fries off your kid's plates now and then. Desserts are, I'm afraid, out, except for truffles and creme brulee and chocolate tortes. You can have lots of delicious nuts--all the pistachios and macademias you like. First quality chocolate often has little sugar. I make cookies with almond flour and Valrhona chocolate that are very good.
It's worked. I'm staying in my size nine Guesses. I could go smaller, but I'm too old and then I'd look scrawny. Don't like scrawny old women. Women of a "certain age" need a bit of flesh to avoid that Nancy Pelosi look. I fought the battle of the Fifteen for years, and I don't DO "hungry." Locarb and regular exercise is not perfectly easy, but you don't go hungry.
Well, I'm certainly not in the market to lose 50 pounds myself.
This is basically what I did:
Cut out as much as possible any processed oils.
Cut out all fried foods.
Consumed 3-5 Tbsp of Udos oil per day.
Cut out as much as possible any refined sugars.
Cut out sodas.
Reduced carbohydrates as much as possible.
Most of this is sound advice. Cutting out most refined-sugar products is essential. As well, processed oils are to be avoided. Pure oils are preferrable. Look also for polyunsaturated and monounsaturated oils. Avoid saturated oils. Avoid at all costs synthetic oils.
But the part I am a bit skeptical about is the consumption of 3-5 tablespoons of Udo's oil daily. What kind of oil is it? Flax seed? Olive oil? A blend? And how much "good" oil is already in your diet? He may be right, but two things come to mind: first, you should get a second opinion on how much EFA you need from somebody that doesn't sell it, and second, you can probably get the same stuff for less without his name on it. Just some observations.
Of course I ate less than I did before, but hunger wasn't an issue since I didn't want to eat as much. Unprocessed oils (like Udo's Oil Blend) are natural appetite suppressors. I was full sooner and remained satisfied longer. I never felt hungry while I was losing the weight.
Its good to see success, but again, you made a lot of diet changes so its hard to attribute your improvements to just the UDO oil. Perhaps all of the other changes were what helped you the most.
Do your health a favor and look into this. At least read the lecture. In addition to the weight management aspect, check out the other MAJOR health benefits the EFAs bring. Feel free to ask me about anything you might have a question about or if you want to know more about anything that I mentioned.
I will read up on it. I'm always a skeptic until things can be shown, so please don't take offense to my above comments. That comes from dealing with liberals my whole life and from having a handful of courses in the sciences. My take, and reading up further on this will help, is that while EFA's are necessary, the consumption of 2 or 3 servings of fish a week is sufficient to provide for good health. Of course a bit of supplemental oils won't hurt, but I don't know that a few tablespoons a day is necessary or productive.
I read today (The Times(UK)) that eating a kind of South African cactus was all the rage among dieters, it even suppresses the need for water.
Where did you get that information from?
Guiness has about 120 calories (per pint), so maybe it has 5 different carbs totalling 30 grams.
Here's a challenge for you: Go OFF the Atkins diet for 1 month. See how much weight you gain back.
However, if you start a dedicated exercise routine (one that you can maintain) for a year or longer, you will see 50 pounds can be lost over a year and you WILL NOT put on those 50 pounds again so quickly. Your cardiovascular system will be healthier, your immune system stronger, and your skeletal-muscular system improved many times over.
In my twenties and thirties, this was plenty to keep my weight under perfect control. Didn't think anything about it, and had my occasional slice of chocolate layer cake.
Suddenly in my forties the weight happened, a pound or two a year. It was almost twenty pounds I had to lose. Tried several things, found that facing a life being always a little hungry was most discouraging. Add to that--I loved to cook and bake.
When I was thirty, I didn't know what all the fuss was about because it wasn't a problem.
Just curious... Why must the diet be before breakfast? Has it something to do with getting the metabolism activated for the day?
We can't all be Jack Lalanes, but we can all exercise within our power. It all starts with getting off our butts and getting moving.
I think that the theory is that before your first meal, your blood glucose level is at its lowest so your body turns to glycogen stores in the muscles and liver, followed by the consumption of fat for energy. I am one of those people that "hits the wall" (hypoglycemic, I believe) rather quickly so I can't exercise very well without having eaten beforehand.
Am still recovering from that, haven't matched my lowest yet (e.g. - weight about 240 now, all from Atkins. The problem with Atkins are the "plateaus". I was stuck for months on a plateau and couldn't seem to break it, have recently done so and have lost 6kg in the past 6 weeks...
One of my old college roommates is a doctor. His first patient to die on him while in residency was an Indian emigrant in his thirties who had never eaten an ounce of meat in his life and who pretty much abstained from milk and eggs, too. The Indian died of massively clogged arteries.
The point is that a lot of this stuff is genetics. If you've been dealt a lucky hand you'll live a long time. If not, you're toast no matter what you eat. Most of the cholesterol is manufactured by the body rather than derived from foods containing cholesterol.
BTW, my friend is a firm believer in the Atkins diet. It works great for his patients. They lose weight faster, find it easier to stick to the diet, and their lipid profiles look great.
Clearly, how it is burned, under what conditions, have a lot to do with gaining weight. If youth is a factor, why not other things? It is a fact--you can eat more calories on this diet than other diets and lose weight more easily than on other diets.
A little butter on your broccoli will sure tame an appetite.
Dr. Erasmus has been the acknowledged expert in the field of oils and their affects on health for years (he has been studying oils for over two decades). He did not start marketing his own products until years after he was already a well respected expert in the field. He was dissatisfied with the way manufacturers were preparing EFAs for consumption and developed new methods and technologies for oil manufacturers.
There are definitely other suppliers of EFA oils, but Udo's Oil Blend is unique in it's ratios of oils and in the care taken during preparation. The oils that are blended are flax, sunflower, evening primrose, and a few other lesser oils. It is possible to buy other oils, but you would have to measure and mix the oils to maintain the ratio of 2 parts Omega 3 to 1 part Omega 6. Additionally, it can be hard to determine how the other oil suppliers prepare their oils. Because of the delicate nature of EFAs it is necessary to package them in a safe environment free of heat, light and oxygen. With Udo's oil, there is no doubt about the care being taken during preparation.
When I first came across the information by Udo I was extremely skeptical but as I was reading his book I realized that Erasmus knows his stuff. The more that I read both from his book and from other sources that confirmed what he had written the more I become convinced in trying an EFA oil supplementation in my diet. Before I read Udo's book, I was taking a softgel EFA supplement and ate fish frequently. I thought that I was getting an adequate amount of EFA in my diet. I was very wrong.
you made a lot of diet changes so its hard to attribute your improvements to just the UDO oil. Perhaps all of the other changes were what helped you the most.
Everything I did contributed to my betterment, no doubt about that, but the oils made the difference. I have dieted several times before using the same diet regimen, without the oil blend. I did get results, but they were slower and I didn't feel anywhere near as well as I did when my diet included the oils.
Additionally, my roommate (who was not dieting) also took the oil supplement. He too noticed a definite improvement in his health after just a few days, and just like myself he was skeptical of the product before using it.
Something else that I didn't mention earlier was my overall health and general well being. Prior to using EFAs in my diet I would get minor head colds/sore throat/general stuffiness every few weeks (a result of being around second hand smoke too often). After I started taking the oils I haven't so much as had a runny nose, and my energy levels went through the roof and have stayed there. My roommate has also noticed a similar effect in his health.
I will read up on it. I'm always a skeptic until things can be shown, so please don't take offense to my above comments.
Trust me, no offense taken. I was very skeptical of the benfits of taking the EFA supplements. The results from my small study of myself and my roommate have convinced me of the efficacy of EFAs in the quantities Udo recommends.
My take, and reading up further on this will help, is that while EFA's are necessary, the consumption of 2 or 3 servings of fish a week is sufficient to provide for good health. Of course a bit of supplemental oils won't hurt, but I don't know that a few tablespoons a day is necessary or productive.
The reason we need so much EFA in our diets is because of how much of it our body uses for building and maintaining itself. EFAs are needed and used in every cell, joint, organ, and tissue in our bodies. Any EFAs in your diet are better than none, but it is better to keep the body well supplied with them.
The indicator that Udo uses for gauging how much oil we need is our skin quality since our skin is the very last part of our body that gets supplied with EFAs. If you are getting enough EFAs in your diet, your skin will be soft, smooth, and velvety. Dry skin indicates a definite deficiency.
I never realized how dry my skin was until after I started taking Udo's oil blend. It took my skin about 4 or 5 days before I noticed the difference but it was remarkable when it did change. In addition, it also cleared up my chronic acne on my back. That was a major benefit for me.
If I slack off on taking my oil for a few days I notice the change. My energy levels will start declining and my skin tone will change. Like I've said, the differences are noticeable and well worth it.
Even Atkins' diet is sorely lacking in EFAs. Our bodies need a significant amount of EFAs for a lot of different functions. To start with, our bodies use EFAs in ever single cell, joint, tissue, organ, etc. They are a major nutrients and about 90-95 percent of people do not get adequate amounts of EFAs in their diets.
My original post cites the book Fats That Heal Fats That Kill. There are other sources besides that one, but it is well documented with references. Data. Info. Facts. They are there. Read them.
That is true today, but before the advent of hydrogenated vegetable oil, such was not the case. Look at a picture of today's pigs vs. pigs from 75 -100 years ago. Today's pigs are mostly lean meat---"yesterday's" pigs were a MUCH higher percentage of fat--BECAUSE IT WAS A VALUABLE PRODUCT--not a "byproduct" at all.
I dont see it as a sustainable diet. I was on a low fat low carb, low protien diet about 10 years ago - all fine and dandy - I lost 40# - but it wasnt sustainable - though the lasting effect to this day is I can eat any roughage, cabbage, apples - etc with no ill effects (if you know what I mean)- to the adkins I say - everything in moderation and excersize daily (at least walk)
Something not in the book that you might be interested in is the Danish Athlete Study which was done to see the effects of Udo's Oil Blend on athletic performance, general well being and cardiovascular risk factors.
The highlights of the study can be found here.