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Barkley Votes With Republicans on Homeland Security Bill (w/Priceless McCain Democrat suck-up quote)
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| Published: Nov 19, 2002
| Frederic J. Frommer, Associated Press Writer
Posted on 11/19/2002 3:37:30 PM PST by SunStar
Nov 19, 2002
Barkley Votes With Republicans on Homeland Security Bill
By Frederic J. Frommer
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - On the job for only a couple of weeks, interim Sen. Dean Barkley of Minnesota suggested Tuesday that he's learned to use his leverage as senator. Barkley would not commit to voting with Republicans on a homeland security bill until the Bush administration committed to a Minnesota welfare waiver - though the independent senator had planned to vote with the GOP all along.
Barkley, an independent, said he received four calls from the White House over the past couple of weeks seeking his support on the bill. Two hours before Tuesday's vote, Barkley said, he got a commitment from Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson to grant the state a continuation of its welfare waiver next year.
Thompson spokesman Tony Jewell confirmed that commitment but said the decision had nothing to do Barkley's vote on homeland security.
Barkley, who is filling out the term of the late Sen. Paul Wellstone, D-Minn., said he already had decided to support the bill.
"But I wasn't going to show that card until I actually see if I could get the commitment from the White House and Tommy Thompson," he said.
Minnesota's waiver, which expired Sept. 30, allowed the state to offer welfare recipients options such as extra schooling and mental-health counseling.
The key vote Tuesday was 52-47 against a Democratic amendment to strip GOP provisions that Democrats considered special interest gifts to corporations. Had that amendment passed, there might not have been time to pass the overall bill this year.
Barkley said he agreed the GOP provisions should be removed but not at the cost of killing the bill.
"I had to make the call whether or not having a homeland security bill was worth those special interest provisions - which I hate," he said. "But I'm a realist to know that that's how this game is played around here."
Barkley has said since arriving here that his No. 1 priority was creation of a new Homeland Security Department.
One provision particularly tough for Barkley to accept was the weakening of a Wellstone amendment barring companies with offshore tax havens from getting federal homeland security contracts.
Barkley said Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican who voted with Democrats, told him, "'You're in Wellstone's seat, you should be cognizant of that, and they weakened the Wellstone part, and you ought to say that you're not going to do that.'"
McCain spokesman Marshall Wittmann said the Arizona senator "did not tell him how to vote."
TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: barkley; homelandsecurity; mccain; minnesota
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Let's see the McCain supporters defend their guy after reading this quote...
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posted on
11/19/2002 3:37:30 PM PST
by
SunStar
To: SunStar
McCain spokesman Marshall Wittmann said the Arizona senator "did not tell him how to vote."
He just tried to.
2
posted on
11/19/2002 3:40:27 PM PST
by
dead
To: SunStar
Sounds like more BS from the "Straight Talk Express".
To: dead
Isn't he in Goldwater's seat? Goldwater would be ashamed of him. I am.
4
posted on
11/19/2002 3:43:21 PM PST
by
Chemnitz
To: SunStar
I am proud to say that I have never supported John McCain. I wish he would just go away. He is a traitor to his own Party while he sucks up to the RATS day after day. He will never get over losing the nomination to George W. Bush. It's as simple as that.
To: dead
Notice that Landrieu of Louisiana voted with pubbies when it had already passed....
To: prognostigaator
Landrieu = slimy politics at its best. A true hillary clone.
To: Wait4Truth
slimy = slimey...sheesh
To: BUSHdude2000
Well this bit of grandstanding by Mc Cain will be worth a lot of face time and adulation from Russert. Stephie, Schieffer and the rest of the adoring mainstream media.
I'm sure Judy Woodruff is thrilled.
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posted on
11/19/2002 3:45:22 PM PST
by
Leto
To: prognostigaator
The best thing about this lame-duck session is the torture she is going through. Every single vote is going to be lambasted by somebody, costing her votes.
It's like she's spinning slowly on a spit.
10
posted on
11/19/2002 3:46:14 PM PST
by
dead
To: SunStar
MC "CAIN" will slay reasonable legislation, just as long as his supporters en"Able" him. Nothing honorable in McCain's past, can deodorize the skunk he has become.
To: Chemnitz
When is this idiot up for reelection? I may move to Arizona to vote against him in the primary, it damn sure looks like the natives can't do the job. I have always said that if my Dad were to run on a democrate ticket that I would vote against him. I believe I would make an exception for this turncoat.
12
posted on
11/19/2002 3:53:08 PM PST
by
my right
To: F.J. Mitchell
McCain is rumored ready to switch parties if Landreau wins and another Republican comes forward to switch with him - which would give the Democrats Senate control magain.
This vote on his part (the sole Republican) could be setting the stage for that. It would give him cover arguing his switch is idealogical and not strictly a political move. McCain wants to run for Pres and that is out in 2004 unless he's a Democrat or switches but becomes Independent like Jeffords.
13
posted on
11/19/2002 3:56:46 PM PST
by
Douglas
To: prognostigaator
Too little, too late, Ms. Landrieu.
14
posted on
11/19/2002 3:56:54 PM PST
by
Gunder
To: SunStar
McCainal is infected with the same destructive virus that many who claim to be Republican have been infected with. They must have had too many STD's not cured and inhaled a lot.
They claim to be Republican and spend 24/7 stabbing our president and party in the back. They are all over America. They are in the Senate, in the house, serve as governors and state legislators. They are on Free Republic and other web sites. They are mentally ill and petty POS's!
They, like their poster boy McCainal, are worse than the Rats. At least the rats call themselves Democrats, and we know what to expect from them.
To: SunStar
Let's see the McCain supporters defend their guy after reading this quote... Are there any around here?
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:03:08 PM PST
by
mlo
To: SunStar
"But I wasn't going to show that card until I actually see if I could get the commitment from the White House and Tommy Thompson," he said. Barkley doesn't really play poker, does he? That's wasn't your card, silly. That was your bluff. And you NEVER tell anyone you've just bluffed them. You just pull your money in and get ready for the next ante.
And NEVER count your money 'til you're outa there.
And if your wife asks, tell her, "I just broke even. Might've won or lost a few dollars, but I think I pretty much broke even."
To: Douglas
McCain would be as popular as Jeffords if he did. Also, I don't think the Queen would permit it. She'll be too old and dried up if she waits too long.
To: SunStar
Is McCain of medium or short stature? I saw him in shots with Dubya on 'Journeys With George' and he looked a litter shorter than Dubya, who I figure is about 5'10".
Also its amazing how they made up McCain's young rich trophy wife to look closer to his age. She is a vixen for sure, and he is a lucky man, but they really wanted to avoid any issues there - so phony! So what is he has a wife 15-20 years younger, and so what if she is a fox? Bully for him!!!
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:07:43 PM PST
by
HitmanLV
To: Yakboy
McCain has a huge ego and my bet is he does not care what the Quenn thinks. Sure the party establishment would be against him, but I could see McCain entering the Demo fray as a populist. Its not totally out of the realm to believe McCain could beat Gore and Kerry in the primaries.
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:08:03 PM PST
by
Douglas
To: Douglas
McCain is rumored ready to switch parties if Landreau wins and another Republican comes forward to switch with him - which would give the Democrats Senate control magain. I hope the moron does switch parties. He's no help to the Republicans, and as someone stated in another post, he'll never get over losing the nomination to Bush. Let the jerk switch. The way the dems are going, they are their own worst enemies, and he'll definitely help in that aspect!
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:11:12 PM PST
by
zingzang
To: Chemnitz
No, that is the Arizona Senate Seat. That's not Goldwater's seat. That's God's seat.
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:13:25 PM PST
by
LS
To: Douglas
I heard on Special Report that Chaffee is the one MOST likely to switch! He has Lott by the WALNUTS if he doesn't
meet all the GOODIES he wants! Can you say BLACKMAIL?!! Don't worry about McVAIN for now it's CHAFFEE who will do the turncoat dance!
To: Wait4Truth
I am proud to say that I have never supported John McCain.That's two of us! I went staight from Keyes to Bush.
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:17:27 PM PST
by
mombonn
To: Wait4Truth; prognostigaator
She's still toast here in Louisiana anyway.
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:19:18 PM PST
by
Sparta
To: dead
The best thing about this lame-duck session is the torture she is going through. Every single vote is going to be lambasted by somebody, costing her votes. It's like she's spinning slowly on a spit.I totally agree. Did you see her on MTP Sunday with Terrell? She was practically on her knees giving a "Clinton" to Bush she sucked up so hard!
To: RoseofTexas
I heard on Special Report that Chaffee is the one MOST likely to switch! He has Lott by the WALNUTS if he doesn't meet all the GOODIES he wants! Can you say BLACKMAIL?!! Don't worry about McVAIN for now it's CHAFFEE who will do the turncoat dance! What???
Assuming Landreu (sp?) keeps her seat, the Democrats will need TWO switchers if they are to pull another Jeffords Special on the GOP. That would be Chafee and McCain...
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:23:35 PM PST
by
SunStar
To: Douglas
It would suck bigtime if McCain and Chafee jumped to the Dems. That is why I was so disappointed when Thune threw in the towel. It's not a long stretch to see those two hold hands and jump.
If the Senate goes back into the hands of the Dems, we can forget about any good judges and tax reform and economic stimulus et. al.
Do you think that Lott knows or suspects that he can and might lose control, so that is why he is making deals with the Devil? Oops, I ment Daschle?
To: Douglas
Sure the party establishment would be against him, but I could see McCain entering the Demo fray as a populist. Its not totally out of the realm to believe McCain could beat Gore and Kerry in the primaries. Since the Dimbulbs are moving farther to the Left...I doubt McCain will go that far. After his attacks on Bush I don't think he can play the "conservative Democrat" game and get the independent white men back!
To: Fledermaus
Landrieu must have been asleep on November 5th. In case she didn't notice, the "I'm with the President where it counts" kind of Democrats like Carnahan and Cleland got beat. Americans in 2002 want Republicans, not Republican-lites.
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:26:52 PM PST
by
Gunder
To: Geist Krieger
I don't think McCain will switch but on Brit Hume, Carl Cameron said they are most worried about Chaffee. Chaffee is a flake.
Having said that though, I do think the GOP screwed up here and added this stuff at the 11th hour. It would have been better for everyone if they had just kept the bill clean. I realize that is how it is done but Cameron reported that Lott was only able to keep Snowe, Collins and Chaffee on board if he agreed to have the House revisit those issues - the limited liability, the money to Texas A & M, and one other provision. Lott got Hastert and Tom Delay to go along with that. Had he not been able to secure the acquiescence from Hastert and Lott, Daschle's amendment would have passed.
If they had just left all that crap out, we wouldn't have the big dog and pony show today. I say the House GOP overreached here and they shouldn't have done it.
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:30:19 PM PST
by
Wphile
To: SunStar
Most Arizona Republicans woun't vote for mccain as dog catcher. We will hang him out to dry in the desert next time he ask for our votes.
To: Wphile
Over confident KILLED the pubbies the last time they WON BIG!! They need to settle down and start planning out their strat. to keep one step ahead of the RATS and the EVIL liberal media WHORES!! IF they play their hand like they did the first time THEIR TOAST!! Lott is BAD NEWS for the pubbies!! :(
To: Fledermaus
It's called a "Monica."
To: Grampa Dave
Grampa Dave--I see your posts on a lot of threads and I roger what you say 100%. McFlameout especially pisses me off. He is a hot head who would have washed out of the Navy except for his admiral father and grandfather. He left his wife who stood by him while he was a POW for a rich daughter of an AZ beer baron who was in kahoots with the local hoods. He got elected using her money. He got burned in the Keating 5 scandal but never really got the reprimand he deserves. He suffers big time from little-man syndrome. I consider him a traitor to his party and a slimey bastard. I hope he runs against Dubya again. He and his racist pal Rudman deserve to have their noses rubbed in it again. Keep up the great comments gramps. I love em!
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:43:07 PM PST
by
Cautor
To: Wphile
"If they had just left all that crap out, we wouldn't have the big dog and pony show today. I say the House GOP overreached here and they shouldn't have done it."Sort of like gloating over all those 50 bills that didn't pass while Daschle was "roadblocking".
I agree with you. And besides, this is not time for gloating or bill-padding or pork of any kind.
The Republicans, of all people should know that...what God has raised up, God can and will also tear down.
It's time to get as many good judges confirmed and as much passed to cut taxes and stimulate the economy, but for real, and not symbolic. Or else the Repubs can find themselves licking Dasshole's well...you know...again!
Snowe and Collins: RINOS and Chafee: L.I.R.D. (liberal in Republican disguise). What a worthless trio.
To: Sparta
if we can only get the dead folks in new orleans to take the day off on dec 7th...
To: my right
I may move to Arizona to vote against him in the primaryGet an apartment and I'll pay half the rent so my wife and I can vote absentee from there! Texas doesn't need my vote right now.
To: cajun-jack
Don't worry, we will.
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:54:21 PM PST
by
Sparta
To: Geist Krieger; RoseofTexas
The rationale, I guess, is this is what they all do. ALL the time. I say it's time to stop and I'd like to see the GOP be the first ones to stop it.
Now is not the time to overplay your hand. One step at a time.
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posted on
11/19/2002 5:00:03 PM PST
by
Wphile
To: Cautor
Thanks for your kind words and the re documentation of McAinal and his life of Misshaps.
I ran into a Navy pilot years ago who knew McAinal. He said the same that you did about McAinal's Admiral Dad keeping him in the Navy after getting him in the Naval Academy and then flight school. This pilot called McAinal a Red Ace. Apparently McAinal crashed 5 Navy planes in his Naval career, making him an ace for the other side Viet Nam. In the time since the Korean War to now, McAinal has taken out more of our Navy planes than any single enemy pilot.
His super rich druggie wife, (the current one) set up some half way house for drug addicts and got caught stealing RX drugs from the pharmacy.
Then she wore the same very expensive designer pin that the Hilldebeast and other elite female rats wore in 2000. She wore it the night that she and her husband came on stage at the convention in 2000 to continue to stab GW in the back. It was her code to other left wing elite female rats that she was one of them and not a conservative republican.
McAinal is a waste of skin and air, and his skin ain't all that good!
To: SunStar
Looks like the independent Mr. Barkley is more independent than Maverick John McCain.
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posted on
11/19/2002 5:05:14 PM PST
by
copycat
To: prognostigaator
Notice that Landrieu of Louisiana voted with pubbies when it had already passed....Hope she depresses her base...
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posted on
11/19/2002 5:06:14 PM PST
by
copycat
To: BUSHdude2000
Sounds like more BS from the "Straight Talk Express".Excess"
To: Douglas
McCain and Gore should unite and form the "self pity" party.
To: SunStar
I voted for McCain last time around (several years ago).
But I'm not a supporter anymore. I haven't been for a few years. :)
I sure as heck hope he doesn't run again, but if he does, I won't be voting for him.
Funny, whenever he's on local talk radio he tries to play up just how conservative he is. HA!
To: Chemnitz
"Goldwater would be ashamed of him. In the last years of Goldwater's life he married a younger liberal. Susan, I think her name is.
In those last years he said some stuff that had us conservatives in AZ looking at one another and saying, "WHAAt?"
Must have been Stockholm Syndrome (brainwashed by his lib wife). :) That or he was gettin' a little senile. We're not sure. He was saying the kind of stuff McCain says. LOL!
To: my right
"When is this idiot up for reelection? I think he has two years left.
To: HitmanNY
I'm not sure what their exact age difference is, but McCain
was born in 36, so they makes him..um..66. Cindy has got to be pushing 50 by now.
He was first elected to the U.S. House here in 82, served two terms and was elected to the Senate in 85. Pretty sure he's up again in two years.
To: my right
The natives will probably vote him out next time around, if he even runs.
Things were a little different in 1998. He really began ticking people off when he was running for Pres. in 2000 (and since) and then again around Sept. ll, 01 when he was no where to be found.
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