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Teenagers' Suit Says McDonald's Made Them Obese
The New York Times ^ | November 21, 2002 | MARC SANTORA

Posted on 11/21/2002 12:49:06 AM PST by sarcasm

Jazlyn Bradley loved her McDonald's Super Sized. A McMuffin in the morning and the Big Mac meal with an apple pie in the evening was standard operating procedure.

Ashley Pelman was more of a Happy Meal girl. She liked the prizes.

Ms. Bradley is 19 years old, 5-foot-6 and 270 pounds. Ms. Pelman, 14, is 4-foot-10 and weighs 170.

Now, the two teenagers are suing the McDonald's Corporation and the two Bronx franchises they frequented for damages related to their obesity. Yesterday, a judge in United States District Court in Manhattan heard a motion to dismiss the case presented by lawyers for McDonald's.

The judge, Robert W. Sweet, has not ruled on the motion, and the case has yet to reach trial. But the idea of suing McDonald's, and fast food companies in general, for health problems like obesity and diabetes that may stem from the consumption of their products has been an issue of great concern for the industry for months now. McDonald's and restaurant industry officials say the teenagers' lawsuit is the first to find its way into a courtroom.

"Within the industry, it has gotten everyone's attention," said Steven C. Anderson, the president of the National Restaurant Association, which represents 858,000 businesses across the country, from small cafes to large chains like McDonald's. He said that while his membership is concerned about such lawsuits, the organization finds them frivolous.

At the heart of the lawsuit brought by Ms. Pelman and Ms. Bradley is whether McDonald's is responsible for their obesity because it did not provide the necessary information about the health risks associated with its meals. If their lawyer, Samuel Hirsch, makes it to trial with the suit, he hopes to turn it into a class action on behalf of all New York children under age 18 who claim health problems they say resulted from eating at McDonald's.

The company's lawyers argued yesterday that the case did not even warrant the court's attention, saying the matter was really about common sense and individual responsibility.

"Every responsible person understands what is in products such as hamburgers and fries, as well as the consequences to one's waistline, and potentially to one's health, of excessively eating those foods over a prolonged period of time," the lawyers wrote in their motion to have the case dismissed.

Saying this knowledge has been well known for generations, they quoted Benjamin Franklin ("To lengthen thy life, lessen thy meals") and Henry David Thoreau ("There is a difference between eating and drinking for strength and for mere gluttony").

But Mr. Hirsch said the chain's billion-dollar advertising campaign encourages children to find their inner glutton.

"Young individuals are not in a position to make a choice after the onslaught of advertising and promotions," Mr. Hirsch said in an interview.

Walt Riker, a spokesman for McDonald's, denied that McDonald's makes children a target of its advertising. "No one cares more about kids than McDonald's," he said.

Neither side argues with the fact that America's waistline is expanding, at a time when a "small" size is a rarity on coffee shop or fast food menus. According to a study conducted last year by the surgeon general, 61 percent of Americans are overweight and 14 percent of adolescents ages 12 to 19 are overweight — a figure that has tripled over the last two decades.

Defenders of the fast food industry point to changes in lifestyle that have made Americans more sedentary, while Mr. Hirsch and others say the problem has more to do with what he called the "supersize culture" of the fast food industry.

Ms. Bradley's order of a Big Mac with Super Size fries and Super Size Coke contains 1,600 calories. According to the United States Department of Agriculture's dietary guidelines in 2000, the recommended total daily allowance for older children, including teenage girls, is 2,200 calories.

Ms. Bradley's father, Israel, who now lives with his daughter in Brooklyn, said he never saw anything in the McDonald's restaurants he visited providing information about the ingredients in the food, according to court documents. "I always believed McDonald's was healthy for my children," he said in an affidavit.

Mr. Riker said McDonald's makes nutritional information available in a variety of ways, including brochures and posters and on its Web site.

On a visit yesterday to the McDonald's on Bruckner Boulevard in the Bronx, one of those named in the lawsuit, the listing of ingredients in the food could not be found at all.

But patrons did not seem concerned as they ate Big N' Tasty Burgers washed down with Super Size Cokes, and children were welcomed by a smiling Ronald McDonald outside the Playplace. Most said they found the lawsuit absurd.


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1 posted on 11/21/2002 12:49:06 AM PST by sarcasm
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Jazlyn Bradley loved her McDonald's Super Sized. A McMuffin in the morning and the Big Mac meal with an apple pie in the evening was standard operating procedure

Have these people every heard of cereal ???

Have her parents actually tried cooking dinner in their own home ?? This girl should sue her parents first .. they were the ones that bought for her

McDonalds didn't go to her house and force her to eat thier food

Here's a suggestion .. Take responsibility for your OWN actions

2 posted on 11/21/2002 12:58:25 AM PST by Mo1
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To: sarcasm
Disgusting. Greed and a complete abdication of personal responsibility for their own wellbeing by these obese teenagers.
3 posted on 11/21/2002 12:58:48 AM PST by Post Toasties
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To: sarcasm

Dinner time.
4 posted on 11/21/2002 1:02:51 AM PST by Justice
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"No one cares more about kids than McDonald's," Riker said.

What means this?

5 posted on 11/21/2002 1:06:53 AM PST by Born on the Storm King
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To: sarcasm
[cue music: "Baby Elephant Walk" by Henry Mancini"]
6 posted on 11/21/2002 1:09:26 AM PST by RichInOC
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To: sarcasm
LOL, looks like they didn't need much encouragement finding their "inner glutton."
9 posted on 11/21/2002 1:17:52 AM PST by flying Elvis
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Where is the judge who will finally put a stop to this nonsense by fining the plaintiff's attorney into bankruptcy for wasting the court's time with this kind of frivolous use of state power?


10 posted on 11/21/2002 1:21:23 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: sarcasm
Why anyone would eat that fast food crap is beyond me.

I'll take a home made roast beef sandwich on buttered rye bread with lettuce and tomato, salt and pepper; a (Vlasic) garlic dill pickle on the side, and a 12 oz. glass of whole milk.

11 posted on 11/21/2002 1:40:02 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: sarcasm
Just a question....... How is this any different from the tobacco law suits? In both cases, plaintives see the opportunity to blame someone else for their stupid actions, someone else with "deep pockets". The courts allowed fantastically huge settlements and awards in the tobacco cases, now people are looking for other opportunities to dip into some deep pockets and of course the attorneys are seeing dollar signs too!

Will we soon be seeing warning labels on MacD's wrappers?

12 posted on 11/21/2002 3:43:20 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy
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To: Born on the Storm King
Might mean the Ronald McDonald houses set up for families with critically ill children, usually near Children's hospitals, often for families away from home, who have no funds for shelter while their children are being treated.

is there a possibility these two girals are eating for two?

13 posted on 11/21/2002 3:43:47 AM PST by katze
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To: sarcasm
At the heart of the lawsuit brought by Ms. Pelman and Ms. Bradley is whether McDonald's is responsible for their obesity because it did not provide the necessary information about the health risks associated with its meals...about time. What is good for Phillip Morris should be good for every other industry in the world. PC is the real culprit on trial. Establish a principle and then apply it universally; that is the definition of justice.
14 posted on 11/21/2002 4:03:29 AM PST by RWG
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To: sarcasm
How we got to the point where people think they deserve to be rewarded for their own stupidity and lack of self-control is beyond me. The fact that these two and their attorney haven't already been tossed out of court and charged for the waste of resources resulting from their frivolous lawsuit is disturbing.
15 posted on 11/21/2002 4:08:00 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Will we soon be seeing warning labels on MacD's wrappers?

Would that really be so bad? I would get a kick out of that.

16 posted on 11/21/2002 4:12:01 AM PST by Mid-MI Student
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To: Mid-MI Student
Would that really be so bad? I would get a kick out of that.

Well since the warning labels seem to proceed the additional "special" taxes and governmental restrictions to protect us from ourselves, I don't get quite the same kick as you do.

Warning: Continuing to reward morons for their stupidity is detrimental to our national health.

17 posted on 11/21/2002 4:26:35 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Maybe it is just my bias agaisnt Mcdonalds.

I will never eat there, ever.
18 posted on 11/21/2002 4:40:57 AM PST by Mid-MI Student
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To: Mid-MI Student
I will never eat there, ever.

That's your choice. (And a wise one.)

However, the operative word is choice. I don't want mine limited simply because others are unable to exercise even a modicum of self-control.

19 posted on 11/21/2002 4:47:19 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Mo1
SUE THE PARENTS!

Who drove their kids to Mcdonalds....because if they walked there or rode their bikes, they wouldn't be so fat.
WHO gave them money to buy this food?
PARENT'S FAULT!

20 posted on 11/21/2002 4:48:41 AM PST by Sungirl
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To: sarcasm
And I suppose mommy and daddy have no accountability for giving the money to feed these pigs? Or allowing to lie around on the couch and watch the commercials?
What a crock. Who are these absolute losers that are sueing. I am overweight and while part of it is health related in my case, a good part is love for food and lack of exercise. Damn, blameless idiots...I'm so sick of people not taking at least some responsibility for their own actions.
21 posted on 11/21/2002 4:53:09 AM PST by glory
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To: Mo1
Agreed...sometimes we can't always make meals for our kids, but cereal takes a lot less time to make then does driving down to the local fast food place for a hamburger. Gosh sakes, even a scrambled egg or pancakes from an instant mix don't take that long to make.
22 posted on 11/21/2002 4:55:56 AM PST by glory
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LOLOLOL!!! I eat and eat and never get obese. The lawsuits are more full of junk than the junk food the kids ate.
23 posted on 11/21/2002 4:57:01 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Quixdraw4440
Agree yet again. This is what I do for the kids now--IF, and that's a big if, they do get fries, we buy one for the whole family and split it between the four of us. I'll usually only buy the basic hamburger and the kids will have the same or nuggets. I make an effort to get nuggets at Wendy's or BK too since they don't have as much breading. It's not really that hard with a little effort.
24 posted on 11/21/2002 4:57:56 AM PST by glory
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"Young individuals are not in a position to make a choice after the onslaught of advertising and promotions," Mr. Hirsch said in an interview.

Oh, but what about all of the character education they receive in school, the nutrition/health education, the life choices education, the 'resisting-peer-pressure' education? Has all of that empowered kids with savvy independence and critical thinking skills (as the schools advertise) or left them mind-numbed robots with no choice but to buy whatever they see on TV? Makes a person wonder.

The fast food companies are last on the list to blame for such outrageously stupid people- Mr. Hirsch included.

25 posted on 11/21/2002 4:58:43 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
Liberals ARE stupid. They follow the path of least resistance and when it turns out they made a wrong choice they don't take responsibility. Nope, they end up blaming society for their plight.
26 posted on 11/21/2002 5:00:25 AM PST by goldstategop
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You lucky dog. I'm only blessed with a metabolism like that when I am pregnant or nursing. The rest of the time I'm SOL --LOL
27 posted on 11/21/2002 5:00:40 AM PST by glory
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To: glory
LOL!!! It must be my guy genes. ;-)
28 posted on 11/21/2002 5:01:21 AM PST by goldstategop
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Okay, say McDonalds made them fat. Just who in the hell made them so frickin stupid!!!
29 posted on 11/21/2002 5:02:42 AM PST by MJM59
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To: goldstategop
Maybe so, my hubby had the same type of metabolism until he had surgery a few years back, but now he still only accumulates a bit of a gut. Damn guys---this female body keeps it on "just in case".
30 posted on 11/21/2002 5:02:51 AM PST by glory
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Teenagers' Suit Says McDonald's Made Them Obese

Well, my belt notches tell me beer's making me watch too much sports.

31 posted on 11/21/2002 5:05:41 AM PST by lds23
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The lawyers are currently venue shopping for a totally corrupt, oops I meant activist, judiciary ready to swallow this whopper.

The out of control crooked lawyer industry fully expects to make themselves into super-sized billionaires, like their business associates, the tobacco billionare tort bar.

32 posted on 11/21/2002 5:06:58 AM PST by friendly
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To: goldstategop
Liberals ARE stupid

And yet they KNOW what is BEST for the American people. Astounding.

33 posted on 11/21/2002 5:11:00 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Quixdraw4440
To quote the dad...

I always believed McDonalds was healthy for my children.

You sir, are a moron.

34 posted on 11/21/2002 5:24:02 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
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This case is beyond crazy. Those doing the suing should be charged with harassment and extortion. They must be copying Rev. Jesse J.
35 posted on 11/21/2002 5:24:36 AM PST by Dante3
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Teenagers' Suit Says McDonald's Made Them Obese

Teenagers' hands stuffing food into their mouths at a rate greater than their energy expenditure made them obese. McDonald's was just one of the means (along with voluntarily failing to get sufficient physical activity) they used to achieve their fat ends.
36 posted on 11/21/2002 5:31:26 AM PST by aruanan
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To: sarcasm
The title of this article should be Teenagers' Suit Says They Don't Know How To Think For Themselves

I'd say The Culture of Victimhood is quite successful. Now people aren't even responsible for that which they eat. It's someone else's fault if they repeatedly put something bad for them in their mouths. Time for The Nanny State to step in and mandate the food we eat each day.

We've become a society of overgrown two year-olds.

37 posted on 11/21/2002 5:32:09 AM PST by FourPeas
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Okay, say McDonalds made them fat. Just who in the hell made them so frickin stupid!!!

That's a rhetorical question, isn't it? (Even though you had !!! marks afterwards and not ??? marks)

Since Joe Camel was targeted, I knew it was a matter of time before the ambulance chasers went after Ronald McDonald. I made a prediction to this effect some time ago here on FR. I also predicted they will go after the Pillsbury Doughboy as well.

38 posted on 11/21/2002 5:34:14 AM PST by Conservative independent
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At the heart of the lawsuit brought by Ms. Pelman and Ms. Bradley is whether McDonald's is responsible for their obesity because it did not provide the necessary information about the health risks associated with its meals...about time.

Come on. This would be necessary only if their meals posed some unusual kind of risk. However, due to their wholesomeness, McDonald's meals pose far less risk than meals from restaurants in general (well, even homemade meals since a lot of people end up poisoning themselves by improperly prepared and stored food).
39 posted on 11/21/2002 5:36:15 AM PST by aruanan
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Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.
41 posted on 11/21/2002 5:51:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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Ms. Bradley's father, Israel, who now lives with his daughter in Brooklyn, said he never saw anything in the McDonald's restaurants he visited providing information about the ingredients in the food, according to court documents. "I always believed McDonald's was healthy for my children," he said in an affidavit.

1. What would he think was in burgers and fries?

2. He didn't notice that his daughter was getting a little heavy sometime before she reached 270 pounds? He didn't have a clue that what the daughters were eating might have something to do with how fat they were getting? Like he would have understood the concept of calories, fat, carbohydrates, and protein if he had been told.

3. Hope that his daughters never get to the point of buying beer. No warning on those beer cans that "Warning ** This intoxicating beverage may make you intoxicated -- and fat". Or do they? -- haven't bought one for a long time.

4. Maybe fast food employees should be trained like bartenders to refuse to serve anyone that looks like they have had enough?

The acorn falls not far from the tree.

43 posted on 11/21/2002 6:15:30 AM PST by bam
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Gosh sakes, even a scrambled egg or pancakes from an instant mix don't take that long to make.

I use the microwave and you can get pretty good frozen pancakes. And there is a warning to remove the pancakes from the package before cooking. And you can't turn the microwave on without removing your hand first. So, I think the dad could handle it.

44 posted on 11/21/2002 6:22:05 AM PST by bam
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Mr. Hirsch said the chain's billion-dollar advertising campaign encourages children to find their inner glutton. "Young individuals are not in a position to make a choice after the onslaught of advertising and promotions"

You mean McDonald's advertising is so effective as to be mind control? Their ads somehow eliminate a person's ability to make competent judgments about the health affects of super sized burgers and fries?

Only the anticipation of a multi-million dollar payoff could motivate an intelligent grown man to make such a patently absurd statement as that above.

45 posted on 11/21/2002 11:08:35 AM PST by tdadams
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Mr. Hirsch said the chain's billion-dollar advertising campaign encourages children to find their inner glutton. "Young individuals are not in a position to make a choice after the onslaught of advertising and promotions"

You mean McDonald's advertising is so effective as to be mind control? Their ads somehow eliminate a person's ability to make competent judgments about the health affects of super sized burgers and fries?

Only the anticipation of a multi-million dollar payoff could motivate an intelligent grown man to make such a patently absurd statement as that above.

46 posted on 11/21/2002 11:12:02 AM PST by tdadams
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
Just a question....... How is this any different from the tobacco law suits?
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Because the Tobacco industry deliberately covered up evidence that their products were harmful, whereas McDonalds has, for as long as I've been a customer, had health and nutrition advice available and on display at all times.

This is not to say I support legal action against Tobacco by anyone under the age of 50 (the health risks have been known for 40 years) ... but in comparing tobacco and fast food, you are comparing apples and elephants.

47 posted on 11/21/2002 10:15:23 PM PST by sadimgnik
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To: aruanan
This would be necessary only if their meals posed some unusual kind of risk...the rise of mcdonald's and the bloating of obesity in this country are highly correlated.
48 posted on 11/22/2002 3:46:23 AM PST by RWG
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And some womens groups are up in arms that the Victoria's Secret fashion show was obscene, pornographic, and an insult to women everywhere.

Those who look good in lingerie wear lingerie.

Those who DON'T, sue McDonalds.

49 posted on 11/22/2002 4:05:31 AM PST by Wondervixen
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The judge, Robert W. Sweet, has not ruled on the motion, and the case has yet to reach trial.

Never before in the history of the USA has one judge held the future of America in his hands so clearly as Judge Sweet.

He not only should dismiss the case with extreme predjudice, he should jail the lawyers for filing it in the first place.

If he allows this to go to trial, the USA is DOOMED.

50 posted on 11/22/2002 4:10:03 AM PST by Rome2000
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