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Comeback kid Gore unveils cuddlier image (VOMITING TILL YOU DIE ALERT)
Sunday Independent (Ireland) ^ | November 24, 2002 | Orla Healy

Posted on 11/24/2002 6:21:07 AM PST by MadIvan

The former leader needs more than a makeover, says Orla Healy

ITCHING for a rematch with George Bush in the 2004 presidential race, Al Gore last week reemerged from his Garbo-esque exile kicking off a 25-day, 12-city book tour to promote Joined at the Heart, which he wrote with his wife, Tipper.

"The Gore book tour is like the trailer for a movie," says his former press secretary Chris Lehane. "It is interesting and entertaining but could also be a preview of what is to come. In the parlance of marketing and branding, it is a soft launch."

Soft launch? Gore is being more aggressively marketed than the new Star Wars movie being out on video - Ivan

Over the last week, Gore, who will decide by December 1 whether to run for the Democratic nomination, has packaged himself as a liberal who has morphed into a stoic survivor. Slamming the Bush administration for its positions on Iraq, the economy and health, the new Gore cracks jokes when needled about his "stiff, cold, pedantic, emotionless" reputation. The improved Gore, who sits for an interview beside a flickering aromatherapy candle, is so engaging it is possible to believe he isn't the numb nut who two years ago couldn't make decisions on such simple issues as what colour jacket to wear and where to base his campaign.

At other times, such as when Gore goes into deadpan mode, making it impossible to know whether he is serious or goofing around, you suspect he's still the aggressive intellectual with the unfortunate knack of alienating America's coal miners and auto-workers.

And anyone who despise utter weirdos - Ivan

A Time /CNN survey conducted last week reported that 61 per cent of Democrats said they would like to see Gore run for president in 2004. Barring a slip in the early 2004 tests in New Hampshire or Iowa, the bran-munching editors at Time opined that it appears likely the next Democratic nomination is Al Gore's to lose. In the unlikely event that the mood of the country somehow upends, with Bush impaling himself on the economy and the war, the notion that the beleaguered Democratic party elite will support Gore is far from firm. "Gore's testing the water," says Susan Estrich, Michael Dukakis's 1988 campaign manager, "and I think the water's very, very chilly."

The book-tour camouflage employed to protect Gore from the slings he would face as a declared candidate has enabled his handlers to cherry-pick the media outlets most likely to play up Gore's new image. The first television sit-down, for example, went to Barbara Walters who offered "an opportunity for Gore to come across as a father, author and teacher, as well as a political figure", said one adviser. Next stop was a non-threatening guffaw with funnyman David Letterman. Even so, the cracks in Gore's judiciously crafted mask at times are glaringly visible.

The fact that he doesn't consider a formal analysis to be a necessary part of deciding whether to run is particularly ill-serving in the eyes of a number of his former senior advisers who in 2000 were never sure where they stood with the candidate who appeared to trust nobody outside his family circle.

If Gore does decide to run, "he has to come out with a platform and a vision and stick to it regardless of what anybody says", maintains Donna Brazile, who managed the 2000 campaign.

Yes, listen to Donna, Al. She did such a bang up job last time - Ivan

Earlier this year, Gore made a point of saying, over rubber chicken in Memphis, that he was a changed man. If he had it to do over again, he wouldn't listen to polls or political consultants. He'd just pour out "my heart". Yet asked to emote on the psychological aftermath of the Florida recount the numbing trauma when he thought he'd won, and then discovered he'd lost the presidency the 54-year-old sidesteps. "Just imagine what my life has been like for the past two years," he says, affecting a morose tone. "They let other cars on the road with me now! It slows you down." He waxes about the loss of a secret service retinue, the fact he sometimes has to remove his shoes at airport security.

"I'm a visiting professor now or VP, for short," (Oh ha ha ha, that's so funny Al, I forgot to laugh - Ivan) Gore deadpanned for Letterman. The fact that he must have an opinion on being the man who won more votes than any Democratic presidential candidate, more votes than any Republican presidential candidate except Ronald Reagan in 1984, more votes than George W, and, despite all of this, did not win the presidency itself, pushes Gore to admit, "I'm not sure I'm able to find the words to describe what I was feeling. I believe that if everyone in Florida who tried to vote had had his or her vote counted properly, I would have won." Other than "Hi, I'm Al Gore, I used to be the next president of the United States," another of Gore's favourite lines appears to be: "You win some, you lose some, and then there's that little-known third category." He refuses to call the outcome of the 2000 election "losing". So does Tipper. "I mean, we didn't lose. When we had to concede, we had to abide by the rule of law," she says.

How gracious of you, Tip /sarcasm - Ivan

Keeping his political options open, Gore knitted together a series of projects: he wrote Joined at the Heart, a treatise on the modern family with Tipper, he teaches two related course on "family-centred community building" at Tennessee universities, he consults for a financial services firm and participates on the public-speaking circuit. Until now, he also kept his mouth shut.

"I could have handled the whole thing differently, and instead of making a concession speech, launched a four-year rear-guard guerrilla campaign to undermine the legitimacy of the Bush presidency, and to mobilise for a rematch," he says. "And there was no shortage of advice to do that. I just didn't feel like it was in the best interest of the United States, or that it was a responsible course of action."

In February, during a speech in Nashville, Gore declared his intent to rejoin the national debate. "For everything, there is a season," he said. For the last few months, he's driven around the country in a rented car, often blasting Johnny Cash music, stumping for candidates who wanted him, repaying debts and getting back into the groove of pressing the flesh.

Anyone care to ask how Mr. Cash feels about this? - Ivan

"I have no idea what he went through," says Brazile, who, like many once-close staffers, has had scant contact with her former boss over the last 22 months. "He completely went inside. There was probably a handful of people he kept in touch with. He completely cut off people, as if we had a disease."

No comment - Ivan

It's not unusual for a politician to disappear into a sulk after a big loss. But Gore's retreat from all things Washington was achingly bitter. "Everyone was unprepared for what happened," says Mike Feldman, who worked as Gore's travelling chief of staff. "They were prepared for defeat or victory, but not for this. The campaign had a very unnatural end." One donor says Gore was voluble in putting his own spin on the election, "which basically involved a fair amount of blame for other people and institutions, starting with the Supreme Court, and then Clinton".

The anger and resentment Gore felt for Bill Clinton famously spilled over in an acrimonious meeting between the two, when Gore unloaded his frustration at having to deal with the baggage of the Lewinsky affair, dithering over whether to distance himself or display loyalty. Clinton snapped back, livid about having been excluded from the campaign.

Hillary let her own thoughts be known. Gore lost the election, she told friends, because he couldn't and wouldn't separate his personal anguish over the Lewinsky debacle from his own self-interest.

That would indicate Gore had a conscience. Something we have no proof of. - Ivan

Gore rejects the widely-held criticism within his own party that he ruined what could have been a landslide because he refused to acknowledge Clinton's soiled legacy. But Gore needs Bill Clinton's support now maybe more than ever. Viewed by many of the party faithful as a symbol of defeat and the past, he isn't the obvious standard-bearer to counter the powerful voice of the White House.

And of course, he needs Hillary too. With Senator Clinton eyeing a return to the White House in 2008, her immediate priority is getting a Democrat elected to the White House in 2004. Perhaps a more insightful anecdote about a man who, in private these days, favours lingo like "strategic frame analysis" and "meta-narrative" is the afternoon he came alive in front of his students at the Columbia School of Journalism.

Having brought Alan Greenspan in to talk about coverage of the economy, Gore was being "wonky, very Gorian", going on about what an economic recovery might look like, sketching graphs, saying that in one version it might look like an L, and, in another, like a U.

Then he said something to the effect of: If it gets really chaotic, it would look like this, drawing a W. As difficult as it is to picture, Al Gore and Alan Greenspan then celebrated their naughty joke with a high-five.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: albertgoreii; albertgorejunior; algore; algoreisnotmyprez; details; election; gore; greenspan; mrsnippy; noicedtea4me; stillneedsajob
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Well apart from Gore being Gore, it's apparent Greenspan can't be trusted.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 11/24/2002 6:21:07 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Toirdhealbheach Beucail; TopQuark; TexKat; Iowa Granny; vbmoneyspender; America's Resolve; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 11/24/2002 6:21:42 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Oh, I had almost forgotten about the boy weasel, Chris Lehane, whose sister worked in the Maine courthouse where the DUI was discovered. Coincidence? I think not!

I detest Chris Lehane, and Donna Brazile, and Michael Feldman, and Al Gore. I do not like seeing all these names together. It reminds me of the election and their absolute shamelessness as they tried to steal the presidency.

3 posted on 11/24/2002 6:25:53 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
My first thought on reading this was: "Not these people again, please, Lord."

Regards, Ivan

4 posted on 11/24/2002 6:28:52 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Soft launch? Gore is being more aggressively marketed than the new Star Wars movie being out on video

Yeah, and the public seems pretty indifferent to both.
5 posted on 11/24/2002 6:37:07 AM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit
Hey, I like Attack of the Clones! ;)

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 11/24/2002 6:38:42 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
No matter how hard Gore tries, he'll never be able to get all the "wierd" off of him. Theres just something strange about him, and im not just talking about his politics.
7 posted on 11/24/2002 6:40:23 AM PST by Husker24
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To: Husker24
No matter how hard Gore tries, he'll never be able to get all the "wierd" off of him.

I think it's his manner - he's forced himself to be so many different things that he has lost touch with what he really is. I don't think he even knows. All that is genuine about him is his ambition.

Regards, Ivan

8 posted on 11/24/2002 6:42:36 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Anybody remember Pete Best? - I keep being reminded of him when I hear al gore.
9 posted on 11/24/2002 6:46:26 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: MadIvan
Hey, I like Attack of the Clones!

Me too, but for a Stars Wars product, it's not selling all that well.

I think it's his manner - he's forced himself to be so many different things that he has lost touch with what he really is. I don't think he even knows. All that is genuine about him is his ambition.

Underneath all that pose, is just more pose.

10 posted on 11/24/2002 6:49:25 AM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: MadIvan
The Federal Reserve chairman backing up fake Gorian currency. Am I missing something???
11 posted on 11/24/2002 6:56:04 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: MadIvan
One of the perks of being a amoral empty suit without a shred of values, or substance.

You get to re-invent yourself whenever you want with the full support of the media.

12 posted on 11/24/2002 6:57:30 AM PST by Dallas
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To: MadIvan
The fact that he must have an opinion on being the man who won more votes than any Democratic presidential candidate, more votes than any Republican presidential candidate except Ronald Reagan in 1984, more votes than George W, and, despite all of this, did not win the presidency itself...

D@mn the Founding Fathers and their pesky U.S. Constitution!

All they cared about when they established the Electoral College was balancing the power between small and large states so that small states would even consider forming the Union.

It's always about them! The United States this. The United States that.

What about me, Al Gore?!? The Founding Fathers should have been thinking about how their precious litlle Constitution would affect me, me, ME!

13 posted on 11/24/2002 6:58:06 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
What about me, Al Gore?!? The Founding Fathers should have been thinking about how their precious litlle Constitution would affect me, me, ME!

ROFL!!!!

Regards, Ivan

14 posted on 11/24/2002 7:00:42 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
My first thought on reading this was: "Not these people again, please, Lord."

I have a theory that you keep meeting the same problem people over and over again until you learn to deal with them. (At which point they are replaced with new problem people but I don't want to think about that right now. Too depressing)

But this is the first time that I am meeting the problem people again and they are the exact same people. Which might be a good sign. At least the Good Lord didn't make more then one of each of them.

a.cricket

15 posted on 11/24/2002 7:03:36 AM PST by another cricket
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To: another cricket
Oh I know how to deal with them - for the most part with derison and scorn - but that is a different matter from wanting to deal with them. ;)

Regards, Ivan

16 posted on 11/24/2002 7:05:25 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Miss Marple
Is this the Michael Feldman who has the NPR game show, "What Do You Know?"
17 posted on 11/24/2002 7:26:42 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: MadIvan
Algore is STILL trying to reinvent himself, sheesh, looks like he would give up after awhile.
18 posted on 11/24/2002 7:31:47 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: MadIvan
The former leader

Leader of WHAT? The Senate?

19 posted on 11/24/2002 7:41:45 AM PST by Puppage
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To: MadIvan

20 posted on 11/24/2002 7:50:22 AM PST by jws3sticks
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To: MadIvan
you suspect he's still the aggressive intellectual with the unfortunate knack of alienating America's coal miners and auto-workers.

I suspect that if he were such an intellectual, he wouldn't have flunked out of two graduate schools (and earned mediocre grades at the undergrad level). Further, the reason he alienated coal miners, auto workers and other blue-collar types is his anti-industry environazi policies that would have shut down every last smokestack industry in America. The steelworkers in my region voted for Bush or Buchanan. They knew a "President Gore" would put them out of work.

21 posted on 11/24/2002 7:56:53 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: jws3sticks
That picture is just so creepy. The bad vibes I get when I see Gore are astounding!!
22 posted on 11/24/2002 8:00:59 AM PST by FreepLady
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To: MadIvan
OK, what happened to the Union Jack?
23 posted on 11/24/2002 8:15:17 AM PST by fhayek
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To: MadIvan; All
Roger Simon:
Uncovering the warm and fuzzy Gore

RUMORS THAT Al Gore would appear on the "Victoria's Secret Fashion Show" wearing an earth-tone feather boa and a smile proved to be untrue. Fortunately.

But it is about the only TV show he has missed.

After making the judgment two years ago that the public was sick of hearing from him, he and his campaign gurus are now betting the public can't get enough of him.

So he is engaged in a huge media blitz that will culminate, I predict, with an announcement early next year that he is going to run for President again.

During this blitz, Gore and his gurus have but one goal: to make Al Gore likable.

It is no easy job.

Al Gore is a highly disciplined and serious man, a man who loves to study things and the systems of things, who loves to see where and how they fit in with the big picture, and with his constantly evolving and maturing world view.

He is systematic and substantive and loves nothing more than to assemble experts and talk to them at breakfasts, lunches, dinner, panels, study groups and symposia.

His eldest daughter, Karenna, who worked in his vice presidential and Presidential campaigns and is the Gore most likely to follow him into public life, once said that her father was an introvert who was most comfortable living inside himself. She meant it as a compliment.

His wife, Tipper, said, "He is shy. He's always been shy. He was reserved when he was a teenager."

People who get to know Gore are always amazed that he is funnier, more charming and more relaxed in private. And they inevitably end up wishing the public could see the private Gore.

Just as inevitably, his rotating group of aides always hits upon the not very original tactic of "letting Gore be Gore."

"All we need to do is to get him to act in public like he acts in private," aide after aide will say.

It is a profoundly bad idea.

Few people can act in public as they do in private. Privacy is a time to escape from our public selves. And Gore is not an outgoing, funny, relaxed man, though he can certainly be those things when he wants to.

Joe Klein put his finger on it best in a piece he wrote for the New Yorker in 1997. After an interview in which Gore started off as sometimes giggly, sometimes rowdy, sometimes joke-cracking and monumentally insincere, Klein noted that Gore "seemed to be searching for the right . . . attitude to strike, something that wasn't defensive or rectitudinous; something casual."

The interview finally got around to nuclear strategy, a subject that Gore said he had studied for eight to 10 hours a week for 13 months. And then, Klein noted, Gore "changed, suddenly" and was "engaged and enthusiastic." Gore went to a white plastic blackboard and began drawing in Magic Marker a "metaphoric diagram of the meaning of fear" and, using plastic cups, he demonstrated how putting fewer warheads on more missiles would bollix the Russians.

"He seemed more like the world's best Ph.D. student, attacking his orals," Klein wrote. "But there was no awkwardness about it: This was, palpably, the real Al Gore."

Which is the problem for Gore: The real Al Gore, the private Al Gore, cannot be sold to the public.

At first, he simply did not or would not grasp this. (Who wants to be told his essential self is unpalatable?)

"I am who I am," he told Diane Sawyer in June 1999. "And I'm old enough now to know that there are some things that are not — not going to change. There are a lot of things I just don't want to change. And I'm just going to be who I am. And that's — that's all I can do."

He would later change his mind about that. He would later have to.

He would learn what the public really wanted. The public wanted someone who understood them, connected with them and — this was often overlooked — needed them.

"When Bill Clinton wants to relax, he'll invite 20 friends in, play some hearts, talk about books," a Gore staffer once told me. "When Al wants to relax, he'll go off alone somewhere with his laptop. I think he has the potential to be a great leader, a visionary; he sees things before other people do. But I worry that he tends to make intellectual rather than emotional connections with people."

Making an emotional connection with strangers — in essence what political campaigning had become — is no easy thing, even though Bill Clinton made it look easy.

In the last Presidential race, Al Gore was a serious and committed man who tried very hard to learn how to be more charming and casual in public.

George W. Bush was a casual and charming man who had to learn how to be more serious and committed in public.

This time around, Gore is convinced he can complete the job he started in 2000: He is going to be warmer, fuzzier, funnier, more likable and . . . more authentic.

It is like the old political joke: "The public wants sincerity. Heck, I can fake that."

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_show.html?article=16000
24 posted on 11/24/2002 8:16:19 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: fhayek; Happygal
Well it's an Irish news article. A certain young lady from Ireland would be most displeased if I posted a Union Jack along with it. ;)

Regards, Ivan

25 posted on 11/24/2002 8:16:36 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Tex-Con-Man
I have no idea if it is the same Michael Feldman. I did a quick Google search and there seem to be several Michael Feldmans, although none seems to list both the NPR program and Gore. It would be interesting if they were the same person, wouldn't it?
26 posted on 11/24/2002 8:23:02 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: MadIvan
A Time /CNN survey conducted last week reported that 61 per cent of Democrats said they would like to see Gore run for president in 2004.

And 100% of Republicans, I suspect.

27 posted on 11/24/2002 8:27:34 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Miss Marple
I have no idea if it is the same Michael Feldman. I did a quick Google search and there seem to be several Michael Feldmans, although none seems to list both the NPR program and Gore.

"Gore Wars II: Attack of the Feldmans"? ;)

Regards, Ivan

28 posted on 11/24/2002 8:27:41 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I understand Gore's book tour has his book skyrocketing to the 800 level on the Best Seller List...long way from #1.
29 posted on 11/24/2002 8:29:16 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: MadIvan
Trust me... Algore ain't going nowhere. The Clintons despise him for his shunning of Billy in 2000.

He holds no office and will get no backing from the DNC. He is like captain Ahab.

Gore is a sad excuse for an American male... too stupid to dress himself and wearing lipstick and rouge.

30 posted on 11/24/2002 8:36:25 AM PST by johnny7
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To: NittanyLion
60% of the Democrats "they polled"? I doubt their figures. In his interview with Walters, he said if there had been a full Florida recount he would have won(a lie). They never asked for a full State recount that I am aware of, just certain counties. I think the man is an embarrassment to many Democrats.
31 posted on 11/24/2002 8:37:52 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: johnny7
Kinky...kinky....


32 posted on 11/24/2002 8:40:03 AM PST by ErnBatavia
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To: fight_truth_decay
In his interview with Walters, he said if there had been a full Florida recount he would have won(a lie).

Gore would've lost under any recount scenario, including the one his campaign advocated during the actual recount. If Walters let him get away with such a blatant lie she's as dumb as I think she is...

33 posted on 11/24/2002 8:40:51 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: MadIvan
Just wanted to compliment you on the "Alert" in your title.

Thanks.

34 posted on 11/24/2002 8:42:06 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: MadIvan
He sold out to corrupt Arkansas trash in exchange for the #2 seat. Now he can never be president and has no clue what to do with his life. Suck it down, Algore!
35 posted on 11/24/2002 8:46:33 AM PST by redbaiter
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To: redbaiter
Well Al Gore could be like one of the "Upper Class Twits" from the Monty Python sketch:

"His best friend is a tree and his father uses him as a wastepaper basket"

Regards, Ivan

36 posted on 11/24/2002 8:52:01 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: ErnBatavia
His daughter got's some knocks on her...

SR

37 posted on 11/24/2002 8:54:57 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: ErnBatavia
'Tis a pity a grown man can't act like one! HA!

Looks like he has some lipstick on his elbow.

Lets hope he screws up the dem primaries in 2004... it's what he does best.

38 posted on 11/24/2002 8:56:00 AM PST by johnny7
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To: ErnBatavia
That is one seriously creepy shot.
39 posted on 11/24/2002 8:57:59 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: ErnBatavia
I was waiting for that picture. Macho_macho_man AlGore has his women under his thumb. This is the message he was trying to send with this photo from his losing campaign of 2000. What a hoot and embarrassing photo.
40 posted on 11/24/2002 9:00:46 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Husker24
I wonder who'd be the perfect actor to play Al in a movie about his life?


41 posted on 11/24/2002 9:06:25 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: dennisw
I have said forever that al gore has Asperger's syndrome which is a mild form of Autism. The man just isn't right.Now iit is a pitiable sight to see him wandering around with aromatherapy candles trying to be authentic. The man has no self in terms of a personality, authenticity, energy, etc,,he is essentially a robot with a lack of feeliing or human connectedness. Tipper rescued him from aloneness and pities him I suspect. As do his daughters. He is a very sad man. Soon he will be a laughingstock,,he descended to that with me when he did that phony repulsive kiss of Tipper but it was glossed over. Soon, everyone will avert eyes and murmur as he passes too kind and compassionate to jeer at him. The poor man.
42 posted on 11/24/2002 9:18:38 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: MadIvan
"They let other cars on the road with me now! It slows you down."

The "man of the people" has spoken.

Can anyone imagine what a hairy ass-whipping Bush v. Gore II will be? I'd trot out all the comments from former Gore staffers about how glad they were Bush was in the White House post-Eleventh. "Those who knew him (that version of him) best, do not trust him in a crisis."

43 posted on 11/24/2002 9:29:38 AM PST by Jonathon Spectre
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To: ErnBatavia
That has to be the grossest picture I have ever seen! I threw up and crapped at the same time! If I have nightmares,it's your fault!
44 posted on 11/24/2002 9:38:28 AM PST by clintonsgohome
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To: MadIvan

45 posted on 11/24/2002 9:42:10 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: MadIvan
Comback kid Gore unveils cuddlier image.

YEP! He sure does

CLICK HERE Smoochy! Smoochy! Huggy, Kissy

I tried to post the picture on this site, but for some reason it didn't show up when I previewed.

46 posted on 11/24/2002 9:47:45 AM PST by Spunky
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To: MadIvan
A Time /CNN survey conducted last week reported that 61 per cent of Democrats said they would like to see Gore run for president in 2004

Hmmm 61% of Democrats? ... but nothing about the country as a whole ..

Go ahead and run Al .. that is if you can figure out who you are by then ..

47 posted on 11/24/2002 10:02:19 AM PST by Mo1
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To: cajungirl
I have said forever that al gore has Asperger's syndrome which is a mild form of Autism.

You could be right. I would phrase it as a streak of Asperger's syndrome. Kind of a like a screw missing put you just can't quite put your finger on it. Plain oblivious about certain important matters. And robotic. Do you remember the disco party he held after he gave up all claims after the Supreme Court decision of Dec 2000? Bizarre photos of the man. Then he let's himself go and grows a beard for months while allegedly teaching university courses at Colombia and elsewhere.

48 posted on 11/24/2002 10:33:54 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Yeah,,,there is something passing strange about a grown man in his fifties struggling with the kind of things 12 year olds do,,how do I get popular? Who am I? Should I be nicer? Yadda,,he is stunted. Still pitiable.
49 posted on 11/24/2002 10:42:59 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: MadIvan
The less annoying,self deprecating, more realistic version of Al Gore...could this be the next incarnation?
50 posted on 11/24/2002 11:08:17 AM PST by Dutchgirl
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