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Gore’s TV War: He Lobs Salvo At Fox News
New York Observer ^ | Josh Benson

Posted on 11/26/2002 11:02:56 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER

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To: BADROTOFINGER
Some of these are hilarious!!

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151 posted on 11/27/2002 10:37:24 AM PST by ru4liberty
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To: Tall_Texan
In joining the RATs' war against the right-wing media, I strongly suspect Al Gore is following instructions from Clinton or one of Clinton's underlings.
152 posted on 11/27/2002 10:42:49 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Zack Nguyen
Right! A very strange answer, as it really applies to Hollywood and the left, not the right. And calling Gore criticism 'post-modern' is bizarre indeed.

Gore is making points that are strangely familiar, yet totally mis-placed. It's as if Gore has some mental illness where he take right-wing critiques of culture and transfers it from the real targets to the conservative( the 89% proClinton mainstream media and their Democrat ties, transferred to the 'fox news' outlets as Republican-tied media, etc.)
153 posted on 11/27/2002 11:11:10 AM PST by WOSG
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To: SpinyNorman
but surely you speak of Gore, not Sheridan, correct?

No, I'm am taking note that the pot is calling the kettle black.

The GOP just passed homeland security, has passed the Patriot act with out even reading it and passed the Kennedy/Bush education bill, Farm bill and other major increases in government spending. The GOP used to say it was the party of smaller government. Fact is, it no longer has any principles and has moved so far to the left that there is rarely any meaningful distinction between democrat and republican platforms.

154 posted on 11/27/2002 11:19:36 AM PST by Demidog
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To: SerpentDove
Rush was talking about the "monster" Algor created when he "invented" the Internet. Then Rush called him "Franken-Gore"!

Rush is really getting a kick outa this Algor thing!

g

155 posted on 11/27/2002 11:21:03 AM PST by Geezerette
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To: BADROTOFINGER
A conservative bias in major news media?

Bwahahahaha!!!!

I'm not inclined to pull it out and reference it right now, but anyone who is even remotely curious about the veracity of Mr. Gore's preposterous claim should read "Bias" by Bernard Goldberg (formerly #1 on New York Times bestseller list).

There's a TON of evidence to the exact contrary: that there is massive and pervasive liberal bias in the major news media (e.g., New York Times; Washington Post; ABC; CBS; NBC; MSMBC; etc.) This charge is so laughably ridiculous it falls into the "Big Lie" category by default.

156 posted on 11/27/2002 11:28:12 AM PST by constable tom
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To: DangerMouseDC
Actually, I think The Goron does give a cr*p that his book has been a total flop so far. He probably also gives a cr*p that he has a 19% approval rating. Would anyone not care if they were being ridiculed publicly about things like this?

But I do agree--The Goron was also after free publicity and TV air time.

A lot of good it's done him--LOL.

157 posted on 11/27/2002 11:30:37 AM PST by RooRoobird14
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To: BADROTOFINGER
"Maybe I bear the blame for some of it," he said.

STOP THE PRESSES!!! GORE SAID THAT?!?!?!

158 posted on 11/27/2002 11:39:56 AM PST by wideawake
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To: goody2shooz
We could supply the FBI with a good deal of information re: fraud in SD, if they'd like to just browse the archives....
159 posted on 11/27/2002 12:34:56 PM PST by I'm ALL Right!
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To: BADROTOFINGER
"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "Fox News Network, The Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh—there’s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media …. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks—that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what’s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Ok. Fair enough, Al. But you do realize that every coin has two sides...

"The media is kind of weird these days on politics, and there are some major institutional voices that are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Democratic Party," said Mr. Gore in an interview with The Observer. "The CNN News Network, The New York Times, Chris Matthews—there’s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-liberal billionaires who make political deals with Democratic administrations and the rest of the media …. Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks—that is, day after day, injecting the daily Liberal talking points into the definition of what’s objective as stated by the news media as a whole."

Works just as well either way. Except the vast majority of major national media outlets are in fact liberal biased and Al and his Liberal hacks have nothing to complain about. They just can't stand it that the Conservative viewpoint is represented on a national scale in the media at all and will bitch and moan about it until the cows come home.


160 posted on 11/27/2002 12:43:35 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Quilla
Moi. I'd put breasts on him and a pair of rubber shorts.

Then again, I could be banned.

161 posted on 11/27/2002 12:48:45 PM PST by johnny7
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To: BADROTOFINGER
Snippy... Al is just plain snippy
162 posted on 11/27/2002 12:55:04 PM PST by Darlin'
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To: Paul Atreides
LOL, this is great, thanks so much for a new pic for my files.
163 posted on 11/27/2002 1:03:05 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Demidog
No, I'm am taking note that the pot is calling the kettle black.

The GOP just passed homeland security, has passed the Patriot act with out even reading it and passed the Kennedy/Bush education bill, Farm bill and other major increases in government spending. The GOP used to say it was the party of smaller government. Fact is, it no longer has any principles and has moved so far to the left that there is rarely any meaningful distinction between democrat and republican platforms.

Well, like it or not, something had to be done with the culture of mutual exclusivity that the CIA, FBI etc. had going. Plus most of these organizations have to be purged of the Clintonoids. In realization of this, Bush pushed hard against he civil service unions taking or retaining control of the groups. This the only way to do it. Otherwise, they become like the Postal Service, a clearinghouse for "diversity" and other PC crap. There is no excuse for much of the crap appended onto the Homeland Security bill, and our esteemed Congresscritters need to be reminded of that. I agree with you re: the Farm bill and the ed bill. I can only offer that Bush had to appease some groups and suck up to enough swing congressmen to get legislation passed. He must have done something right, as the last election showed. If there is one thing the liberal Dems have taught us, it is that incremental changes add up, and patience is a virtue.

Bottom line though, and back to the topic at hand, can you seriously say that there would be no difference if Gore were President today vs. W? Gore is a wimp and a crybaby, and surely would have found a way to apologise to OBL for letting the World Trade Center offend his religion!

164 posted on 11/27/2002 1:08:43 PM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: MissAmericanPie
;-)

You're welcome!

165 posted on 11/27/2002 1:10:33 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: BADROTOFINGER
It sounds like algore is awaking the sleepers to his new campaign.
166 posted on 11/27/2002 1:10:42 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: BADROTOFINGER
I have trained a new African Grey Parrot I named Queeg to talk. He prefers to listen mostly to Democratic talking points and Gore speeches to learn. Don't know why. He's an odd little fellow.

He just sits around all day and drones: "NORWOOD/DINGLE, DINGLE/NORWOOD, LOCK BOX, LOCK BOX, SQUAWK! ZEITGEIST, GRAVITAS, NO CONTROLLING AUTHORITY, NO CONTROLLING AUTHORITY, SQUAWK!

It's driving me insane. I think I'll take him back and get a Norweigen Blue.

167 posted on 11/27/2002 2:01:17 PM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: BADROTOFINGER
i'm mr. zeitgeister, i'm mr. gore,
i'm democratic bleep meister, i'm mister 2000 and four.

some call me veep meister, whatever i touch,(like tipper)
turns to schmeltz in my clutch... hehe, i'm too much...

--apologies to A Year Mit Out Santa clause...
168 posted on 11/27/2002 2:05:57 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: mdcen
I can't wait for George Will to take him up on the offer to give an interview on the topic of "Postmodernism and the role of Narcissism, Nihilism and Zeitgeist is present day politics".

In my mind's eye, now I can see my dream show: Algore facing George Will, William Safire, and William F. Buckley in a panel discussion on "Postmodernism and the role of...", uh, all that other stuff. <snort!>

I can dream, can't I?

169 posted on 11/27/2002 2:07:09 PM PST by thulldud
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To: SerpentDove
Never use a small word when a big, impressive word will do.

Remember when Gore slipped up during the debates and identified himself as a communist by doing just that?

-archy-/-

170 posted on 11/27/2002 2:18:07 PM PST by archy
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To: GailA
Algorebatross was mentally deranged LONG before his loss to Dubya.

Just as we were all warned....Looks like he hit the nail on the head.


171 posted on 11/27/2002 2:23:53 PM PST by archy
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To: Cincinatus
So that would make AlGore himself a "postmodernist" wouldn't it?

Nope. By his own admission, he described himself as a *Maximalist.*

If you're not used to hearing that term used to describe American political thought, it's because a foreign term is more often used: Bolshevik.

-archy-/-

172 posted on 11/27/2002 2:36:23 PM PST by archy
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To: 101st-Eagle
It's driving me insane. I think I'll take him back and get a Norwegian Blue.

Keep the parrot. Trade Gore in.

Lovely plumage, the Norwegian Blue....

-archy-/-

173 posted on 11/27/2002 2:39:29 PM PST by archy
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To: archy
No, but I bet it was a hoot. What a maroon!

;-)
174 posted on 11/27/2002 2:40:24 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: ru4liberty
Some of these are hilarious!!

Updated for your continuing political edification. Enjoy.

-archy-/-

175 posted on 11/27/2002 2:43:11 PM PST by archy
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To: PJ-Comix
Crazy people are FUN to watch

Yeah, but Gore should have never tried to get the votes from each seperate multiple personality recounted.

-archy-/-

176 posted on 11/27/2002 2:53:18 PM PST by archy
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To: BADROTOFINGER
Sweetlips, grab me beer, the dog just died.
177 posted on 11/27/2002 2:57:04 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: BADROTOFINGER
"I think a lot of those people are taking another look at Al Gore now, saying that, 'Well, at least there's someone out there with big ideas, who looks good on TV, who looks more comfortable with himself.'

Al Gore? The guy from Crossfire, usta' be on with Novak??


178 posted on 11/27/2002 3:01:27 PM PST by archy
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To: SerpentDove
[Remember when Gore slipped up during the debates and identified himself as a communist?]

No, but I bet it was a hoot. What a maroon.

See link in Post #172, above. I shoulda pinged you.

-archy-/-

179 posted on 11/27/2002 3:08:17 PM PST by archy
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To: woofie
how about "burnt"?
180 posted on 11/27/2002 3:10:09 PM PST by Helms
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To: John Lenin
Gore has revealed himself as a narcissist, and a postmodern himself. He wound up summing up his generation and himself. His zeitgeist is over.
181 posted on 11/27/2002 3:15:57 PM PST by Helms
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To: BADROTOFINGER
A recent portrat of AllBore, getting ready to hide tomorrows special event for turkeys like him.


182 posted on 11/27/2002 3:20:41 PM PST by jws3sticks
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To: Terridan
Most of the media [has] been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks . . .

So there you have it from the horse's rear end-- anyone who doesn't disguise adolescent leftist garbage as real news is a traitor to the profession.

As far as his book ranking 1500th on Amazon.Com, it was at 711th only a few days ago. Please Al, run. Make Adali Stevenson look like a winner.

183 posted on 11/27/2002 3:27:11 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: BADROTOFINGER
The more Al Gore talks the more he looks like a fool and a fool starved for attention.Al Gore is as dumb as a "box of rocks"!
184 posted on 11/27/2002 3:40:30 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: BADROTOFINGER
I just have to repeat this line I heard on the radio a couple of months ago. " Al Gore will be the Democratic Party's Sacrificial Dope in 2004."
185 posted on 11/27/2002 3:43:31 PM PST by Irish Queen
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To: archy
...and here's the latest:

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186 posted on 11/27/2002 3:44:03 PM PST by ru4liberty
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To: ru4liberty
You missed one.

-archy-/-

187 posted on 11/27/2002 3:45:59 PM PST by archy
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To: archy
ROTF!!!

No, you're NOT, algore, so GET OVER IT!
188 posted on 11/27/2002 3:50:08 PM PST by ru4liberty
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To: Hugin
"Lockbox." -Al Gore, 2000

"Zeitgeist." -Al Gore, 2002


189 posted on 11/27/2002 3:57:07 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: SpinyNorman
Well, like it or not, something had to be done with the culture of mutual exclusivity that the CIA, FBI etc. had going.

This didn't require that we allow the FBI to spy on us and collect our purchase records.

Plus most of these organizations have to be purged of the Clintonoids.

They have even more powers now. Bush won't be president forever.

In realization of this, Bush pushed hard against he civil service unions taking or retaining control of the groups. This the only way to do it.

Irrelevant and inconsequential since it grows government in spite of this "concession."

Otherwise, they become like the Postal Service, a clearinghouse for "diversity" and other PC crap.

They will still be a clearing house for diversity and PC crap since it is federal EEOC law which regulates this unions or not and hasn't been repealed.

I agree with you re: the Farm bill and the ed bill. I can only offer that Bush had to appease some groups and suck up to enough swing congressmen to get legislation passed.

He is no leader then. Legislation which greatly expands federal powers does not have to be passed. In fact, nobody has yet explained what problem was solved with the Education and Farm bills other than the fact that perhaps the fedgov was just too damn small.

If there is one thing the liberal Dems have taught us, it is that incremental changes add up, and patience is a virtue.

Learned so well by the republicans that they are continuing in the very same tradition. Excepting they're steering the ship in the same direction.

Bottom line though, and back to the topic at hand, can you seriously say that there would be no difference if Gore were President today vs. W?

It would be better in fact because the republicans might just start opposing the democrats instead of furthering their agenda. If homeland security or the Patriot act were asked for by a democrat president, Freepers would circle the wagons.

190 posted on 11/27/2002 3:58:27 PM PST by Demidog
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To: BADROTOFINGER; Helms; archy; thulldud; weegee; mdcen; SerpentDove; PJ-Comix; Cincinatus; scan58; ...
Here's an e-mail I got from a friend; the subject heading was "Three Cheers for Post-Modernism":

Al Gore has found a new excuse to explain all his woes : Post-Modernism !!!

Gore begins by complaining that he can't get a fair shake out of the media, which mocks and lampoons him ... Mocked and Lampooned by Leno every night, the idea that Gore is as dull as a 2-by-4 eventually becomes part of "the fabric of the zeitgeist" ... (Should anyone ever be elected president who used the word "zeitgeist" in normal conversation ???) ...

Sounding everyday more like Chomsky, Gore complains that the media is unserious and not focused on the real issues because its is "financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations" ... Their hired thugs are paid to lampoon him ... Yes, SNL is really part of the "vast right-wing conspiracy" ...Endlessly lampooned, a man who would really "fight for the people" is barred from higher office ...

No doubt anyday Gore will take the next Chomsky step ... since media-for-profit allows the "zeitgeist" to be the play thing of "billionaires," media (like medicine) must be socialized by the government and run on a non-profit basis by civil servants totally / selflessly dedicated to the public trust ...

As odd as that sounds, I must add that the first essay George Orwell got a check for writing was a piece for "GK's Weekly" (as in GK Chesterton) on how the billionaires control the media and must be broken / broken up by the government ... In addition to wanted to keep the Fleet Street billionaires' hands of the zeitgeist, Chesterton also used "GK Weekly" to run a crusade against the Cadberry chocolate bar trust (insert your own joke) ...

But the real shocker of Gore's attack on the media that the media is too POST-MODERN :

http://www2.observer.com/observer/pages/frontpage1.asp

For now, Mr. Gore can only attempt to explain what motivates the ceaseless lampooning he continues to face from America's columnists and commentators. "That's postmodernism," he offered. "It's the combination of narcissism and nihilism that really defines postmodernism, and that's another interview for another time, if you're interested in it."

Again, as with "zeitgeist," I'm not sure if anyone who knows the word "post-modern" should be allowed to campaign for high office ... These are words that are best treated as abstract jokes ... Like the movie where WC Fields throws around the word "technocracy" for laughs ...

But the more I thought about it, the more I concluded that Gore would be the natural enemy of "Post-Modernism" ...

Here is a nice SHORT description of Post-Modernism :

http://jonmattox.com/grids/ideas/postmodernism.html

Lets look at some of the main points :

PoMo doesn't take itself seriously -- Already it is chaffing against Gore

PoMo is against "grand theory" / "metanarrative" and for "multiple-interpretations-of-the-text" / "schizophrenia"-- "Environmentalism" is nothing is not a "metanarrative" -- all things must be judged by one standard -- how they effect "the earth in the balance" ... In the 80's, scholars would write that America loved Reagan because America was "Post-Modern" and I was amused by the buzzword ... Rethinking those old arguments, now I'm no longer amused, simply convinced ...

PoMo is for a sense of fun -- In a key Post-Modern manifesto, architect Robert Venturi said that people must start "Learning From Las Vegas" -- Can you think of anyone who has learned less from Las Vegas than Gore ???

As the final stage in the crisis of Capitalism, PoMo is for the "inflation of theory" and the "overproduction of artifacts" -- What environmentalist can be for "overproduction" ??? And all that "theory" is just going to mean more landfills ...

In 1979, critic Clement Greenberg, the Patron Saint of AB-EX / the man who made Pollock a household name, said PoMo is "the antithesis of everything he loved" ... "a lowering of aesthetic standards caused by the democratization of culture under industrialism" :

" ... it's an excuse to pile together oodles of wild and crazy decor ..."

Doesn't this sound like the "Bush is Popular because Bush is Stupid" argument ???

No one would ever describe Gore as having "oodles of wild and crazy" anything ... And since the "billionaires" controlling the "zeitgeist" have given America a constant lust for "oodles" of the wild and crazy, I can see why Gore hates Post-Modernism ...

Personally, I want "oodles" of wildness and craziness and so I say, keep the zeitgeist plowing ahead at full speed ...

191 posted on 11/27/2002 3:59:05 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: archy
Perhaps that is the ticket. I'll play him syndicated re-runs of Combat to buck up his vocab a little. A little Morrow to diffuse the Gore.

This bird is no more, he has ceased to be...

192 posted on 11/27/2002 4:00:13 PM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: The Real Deal
ROFLMAO!!!
193 posted on 11/27/2002 4:02:21 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Prodigal Son
I guess I'm wasting bandwidth by saying "I don't get it." Oh, well.

Then I might as well take the time to say, I tried to deep-fry my Milky-Ways and it didn't work. Them Scots must do somethin special with the batter....

194 posted on 11/27/2002 4:16:52 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: BADROTOFINGER
What the Hell planet is this guy on, anyway?
195 posted on 11/27/2002 4:33:56 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: Paul Atreides
I was wondering...have you done anything w/ Michael Moore? Maybe in conjunction with a Thanksgiving turkey? (hint, hint)
196 posted on 11/27/2002 4:41:29 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Paul Atreides
I was wondering...have you done anything w/ Michael Moore? Maybe in conjunction with a Thanksgiving turkey? (hint, hint)
197 posted on 11/27/2002 4:43:59 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: stands2reason
I did this one, a while back. LOL! In addition to adding the hamburger, I shrunk Michael's head so that his body looks even more gigantic. I don't know how many have noticed.


198 posted on 11/27/2002 4:50:23 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Demidog
Hmmm, food for thought! I am becoming convinced on some of your points. But what about things like the Kyoto treaty, or Supreme Court nominations? Yeah, there could be screwups here, but I would probably rather see Bush's picks than Gore's (with the "let's wait and see" disclaimer).

I guess the proof will be in what happens when the new Congress gets to town. I am leery of Lott. Hope he gets a spine for Christmas!

199 posted on 11/27/2002 4:54:54 PM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: BADROTOFINGER
Who was Lanny Davis' "bitch" at the Associated Press? The guy Lanny outed in his tell all book.
200 posted on 11/27/2002 5:03:56 PM PST by Doctor Raoul
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