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BOY SCOUT LEADER CHARGED WITH FONDLING TROOP MEMBERS,SHOWINGN PORNOGRAPHIC PHOTOS
AP Breaking News ^ | 2 December 2002

Posted on 12/02/2002 4:20:45 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

TITUSVILLE, Fla. (AP) - A Boy Scout leader faces charges that he fondled at least three members of his troop and showed them gay pornographic photos, police said. Robert King, 50, was held in Brevard County Jail on $75,000 bail Sunday after police charged him with lewd and lascivious molestation and exposure of sexual organs. King, who is married, confessed that exposed himself and showed the troop members pornography, Titusville police spokesman John Lau said.

Lau said King invited at least five boys to his home on Friday under the guise of preparing to build a Christmas float. The boys ranged in age from 10 to 12. Police became involved after at least one scout's parents learned of the incident Friday evening. King was arrested Saturday and appeared in court Sunday. The Central Florida Boy Scouts Council is investigating the case, district executive Kevin Litt said. Last month, the Boy Scouts of America announced that it would require criminal background checks of new adult volunteers beginning next year.


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KEYWORDS: boyscoutleader; boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; pedophile; pornographic; scouts; youthprotection
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Validation of why gays should not be allowed to be Scout Leaders or be involved in any way with the Boy Scouts.
1 posted on 12/02/2002 4:20:45 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Sounds like we have a troop leader who needs to be awarded the Swimming in really deep water with an engine block chained to his ankles badge...
2 posted on 12/02/2002 4:28:46 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
They aint gay!

There is nothing gay about one guy sodomizing another guy or little boy.

They are homosexuals!
Sodomites!
Perverts!

And if they come near one of mine they are ....!

3 posted on 12/02/2002 4:31:46 AM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I'm sure the scumbag donates to United Way every year.
4 posted on 12/02/2002 4:33:36 AM PST by guitfiddlist
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To: DWSUWF
"Sounds like we have a troop leader who needs to be awarded the Swimming in really deep water with an engine block chained to his ankles badge..."

As a current Scoutmaster for a Troop here in Georgia, I soundly concur!

NeverGore
5 posted on 12/02/2002 4:35:11 AM PST by nevergore
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Sick, sick, sick....

Take this guy to a wooded area, unload the hunting rifle, and let the squirrels feed on the rotting carcass.

6 posted on 12/02/2002 4:39:14 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"Last month, the Boy Scouts of America announced that it would require criminal background checks of new adult volunteers beginning next year."

What an incredibly sad statement about our society today.

7 posted on 12/02/2002 4:42:37 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
TITUSVILLE, Fla. (AP) - "A Boy Scout leader faces charges that he fondled at least three members of his troop and showed them gay pornographic photos"

Umm. No story here. Could we just move on?
8 posted on 12/02/2002 4:43:17 AM PST by FryingPan101
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The boys ranged in age from 10 to 12.

Boy scouts? Or cubs? (Feed the bastard to a grizzly.)

9 posted on 12/02/2002 4:43:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Gay Mentors For Dadless Youths "BBSA (Big Brothers-Big Sisters ) won’t couple an adult man with a teen girl. Why not? Risky, they say."
10 posted on 12/02/2002 4:44:00 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"...Take this guy to a wooded area, unload the hunting rifle, and let the squirrels feed on the rotting carcass..."

These incidents always trigger a lot of off-hand remarks like mine above and yours here, but the truth is that this SHOULD BE a death penalty crime.

11 posted on 12/02/2002 4:44:50 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: RightOnline
What's more, will it do all that much to exclude freakos? Character references would seem in order.
12 posted on 12/02/2002 4:45:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What's more, will it do all that much to exclude freakos? Character references would seem in order.

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Character references don't work. They give their pals in prestigious positions as references.

13 posted on 12/02/2002 4:49:15 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
Plus -- not instead
14 posted on 12/02/2002 4:50:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
If some of the parents had showed up to "help" build the float, he would not have had this opportunity. Moms and Dads are still the best sex-offender deterrant and always will be.
15 posted on 12/02/2002 4:54:05 AM PST by lsee
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To: HiTech RedNeck
BSA accepts boys at 10 1/2 years. Typically, they are bridging from Webelos to Boy Scouts at this point.
16 posted on 12/02/2002 4:56:33 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Let's see if this makes big local Florida news. My guess is, since it involves making gay men look like predators, it won't. OTOH, the local press might want to blow it up to make the Boy Scouts look bad.

They must have a real dilemma--trying to protect one of their favored classes (gays) while attacking one of their hated classes (Boy Scouts).

17 posted on 12/02/2002 5:22:44 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: chance33_98
Big Brother accepts Homos"BBSA (Big Brothers-Big Sisters ) won’t couple an adult man with a teen girl. Why not? Risky, they say."

But the Big Brothers will get incidents like this because of their permissive attitudes toward homosexuals: Accused Molestor said he fought urges

18 posted on 12/02/2002 5:27:21 AM PST by UbIwerks
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; All
The organization, "Coalitions for Inclusive Scouting," which states that it is "dedicated to fostering discussion and education about the current state of the scouting program in the United States," clearly invites dialogue from the public. FReepers, please take a moment, on behalf of these boys, to discuss with and educate this (...a-hem...) group, to this sad news out of central FL.

http://www.inclusivescouting.net/mission.html

***from their website:

Our Mission

NECIS is a grassroots organization based in New Hampshire that is dedicated to fostering discussion and education about the current state of the scouting program in the United States. It was formed in response to the discriminatory practices of the Boy Scouts of America with respect to religion and sexual orientation, and comprises individuals and organizations who want to find ways to both support the scouting program, and to make the benefits that scouting has to offer equally available to all youth.

...How should we respond when an outstanding organization does something terribly wrong? Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court gave the Boy Scouts of America the right to ban gays from their organization (BSA v. Dale). Just because an action is legal, however, does not mean that it is morally right. We believe that the leadership of the BSA is doing a double disservice to our youth when they deny wonderful opportunities to some while teaching harmful lessons of divisiveness and discrimination to the millions that remain in the program.

Do you know something we don't? Please drop us a line: info@inclusivescouting.net

19 posted on 12/02/2002 5:28:44 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I wish somebody would come upith a running total of the number of homosexual cases that the BSA has had to contend with over say the last five years.
The could uses these facts in their fight to prevent organizations for taking action against them because of their excluding homosexuals
20 posted on 12/02/2002 5:29:56 AM PST by uncbob
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To: RightOnline
What an incredibly sad statement about our society today.

This kind of crap was going on in the 19th Century as well. It just didn't make the headlines like it does today.

Same with school shootings, etc. People like to think that school shootings (kids shooting kids) is a new phenomenon.....it was going on during the Depression epression as well.

21 posted on 12/02/2002 5:32:19 AM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"criminal background checks starting next year"

How pathetic. This 50yo married man would have passed such a check with ease, I'm sure.
22 posted on 12/02/2002 5:40:58 AM PST by silverdog
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Validation! The sickos can't control themselves!
23 posted on 12/02/2002 5:44:42 AM PST by raisincane
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Come on, how can you criticize this scout leader? It's part of the homosexual "culture" to teach young boys. How else can they grow in numbers?

I'm sure his wife was pleased to hear about this though.

MARK A SITY
http://www.logic101.net/
24 posted on 12/02/2002 5:53:58 AM PST by logic101.net
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"require criminal background checks of new adult volunteers "

This is a nice thought but are you going to catch most homosexuals with a criminal check??????

Note the author thought it was important to include the part about the Chrismas float..........indirect message here????
25 posted on 12/02/2002 6:00:26 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Lets divert more tax money away from Childhood Leukemia ..to AIDs research and into the coffers of the International community (at least that way we know it wont go into research as much as caviar and limo rides for delegates)

After all these butt bandits need to be even more coddled...protected like endangered species..and the disease they brought to us,incubate and spread,should be cured...and all on our dime... so they can go out and gather more support..take over institutions..."witness" to more converts..and molest children...
26 posted on 12/02/2002 6:01:19 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: logic101.net
I'd guess his wife KNEW he was a homosexual, but decided to overlook it for whatever reason. A friend of mine's father is a homosexual, married for 40+ years. He's also a convicted child molestor. Boys, of course. She knew he was a homosexual, even allowed his boyfriend in their house, though in the guise of just a friend. And, she even allowed her ten year-old son's friends to sleep over with the "father" as the only adult in the house.
27 posted on 12/02/2002 6:06:26 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: silverdog
This 50yo married man would have passed such a check with ease, I'm sure.

Sad, but true. A friend's father is a homosexual and child molestor. He was also an upstanding member of his evangelical church, a respected worker and considered an all-around good father. He would have had no problem gaining access to a whole den of victims.

28 posted on 12/02/2002 6:09:12 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
...How should we respond when an outstanding organization does something terribly wrong? Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court gave the Boy Scouts of America the right to ban gays from their organization (BSA v. Dale). Just because an action is legal, however, does not mean that it is morally right.

How come we NEVER hear similar verbage regarding abortion, hhhmmmmm?

29 posted on 12/02/2002 6:23:51 AM PST by The Citizen Soldier
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To: The Citizen Soldier
Yup......and we will march on...
30 posted on 12/02/2002 6:27:30 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Must have been a protestant too because if he were a Catholic THAT would have been mentioned first. Notice how that always happens? hmm?
31 posted on 12/02/2002 6:42:02 AM PST by Pugsy
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
squirrels wouldn't eat that....possums...maybe
32 posted on 12/02/2002 6:47:07 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
re: post #1

understatement! Big shock! not!
33 posted on 12/02/2002 6:54:05 AM PST by Lilly
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality (DENNIS PRAGER)
34 posted on 12/02/2002 6:58:16 AM PST by Kerensky
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To: 2timothy3.16
He's married. That makes him a bisexual, an even lower form of humanity.
35 posted on 12/02/2002 7:00:27 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Yup......and we will march on...

Marching orders in hand.

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. (Galatians 6:9)

36 posted on 12/02/2002 7:04:38 AM PST by The Citizen Soldier
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
King, who is married

Sort of blows "the celibacy causes the problem" theory used to distract from the problem with gay priests.

37 posted on 12/02/2002 7:08:12 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Exactly which criteria should have been used to keep this guy out? He's MARRIED, ergo BSA-approved.

Ain't got nothing to do with keeping "gays" out.

38 posted on 12/02/2002 7:10:36 AM PST by JoshGray
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To: JoshGray
My flaming gay uncle is married too.
39 posted on 12/02/2002 7:14:03 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
BOY SCOUT LEADER CHARGED WITH FONDLING TROOP MEMBERS,SHOWINGN PORNOGRAPHIC PHOTOS.

That could be read two different ways. Intentional or not?

40 posted on 12/02/2002 7:31:45 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Reports like these, which are relatively rare concerning Scout leaders, validate the position of the Boy Scouts to remove all homosexual adult leaders from their ranks. It also validates the decision of the US Supreme Court in Dale v. Boy Scouts to uphold the First Amendment (freedom of association) rights of the Scouts to do exactly that.

And it also proves that all who attack the Scouts for exercising their constitutional rights are willing to play sexual roulette with other people's children. Those who object to the Scouts' removing homosexual leaders are welcome to create their own organization which provides "scouting" opportunities but does welcome homosexual leaders. Let's see how many parents wich to entrust their children into the "care" of an organization like that.

"A Scout is trustworthly, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, thifty, obedient, cheerful, brave, clean and reverent." That's not a bad set of standards for a boy to aspire to. It's not a bad set for a man. Heck, it's not a bad set for a politician or two.

I note for the record that among leadership positions -- ranging from officers in the military, to astronauts, to Congressman (yes, Congressmen), Eagle Scouts are far more prevalent than their numbers in the general population. Maybe, just maybe, the Scout program IS a good way to raise children.

Congressman Billybob
(Eagle Scout, two palms, Order of the Arrow, Junior Assistant Scoutmaster in Troop 35, Church of the Redeemer, Balitmore, Maryland)

Click for latest UPI column, "Ready!... Aim!... Sing!"

Click for latest book, "to Restore Trust in America"

41 posted on 12/02/2002 7:39:21 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL; Jeff Head; backhoe; JohnHuang2
Ping to slap dangerous people around post. Thought perhaps you'd like (or anyone else you know) to take a shot at these leftists.
42 posted on 12/02/2002 7:41:31 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Kerensky; American Preservative; BrooklynGOP; SJackson; Alouette; Nachum; LindaSOG; RaceBannon; ...
EXCELLENT ARTICLE!

BTTT
43 posted on 12/02/2002 8:02:45 AM PST by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda
Someone should rip this guy's balls out with a pair of rusty dirty pliers.
44 posted on 12/02/2002 8:10:43 AM PST by Cacique
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; All
Here's another news source reporting:

(Note: the scout leader's wife *was home*. Note, too: one of the boys *walked home* in the middle of the night!! I feel odd saying so, but I guess I am thankful to God for the lack of supervision.)(....sigh....)



Scout leader faces sex charges

TITUSVILLE -- A Boy Scout leader was being held at the Brevard County Jail on Sunday after several boys complained that he had exposed himself at a sleepover, showed them computer pornography and asked for sexual favors, police said.

Robert Leroy King, 50, was arrested Saturday on charges of lewd and lascivious molestation and exposure of sexual organs, jail officials said. At least three boys, ages 10 to 12, were sleeping over at his Titusville home Friday night because they planned to work together on a Christmas float Saturday, Titusville Sgt. John Lau, said.

One of the boys walked home during the night and told his parents, who contacted police. Two other boys at the sleepover complained shortly thereafter, and two more boys have come forward since, Lau said.

Investigators don't know yet whether the last two boys were at the sleepover or if their allegations stem from separate incidents.

A judge set bail for King, whose wife was home during the sleepover, at $75,000.



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-loccfbriefs02120202dec02,0,7219339.story?coll=orl-news-headlines
45 posted on 12/02/2002 8:59:11 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: RightOnline
"Last month, the Boy Scouts of America announced that it would require criminal background checks of new adult volunteers beginning next year."

Excuse me, but this example of shining journalistic achievement, presumably from the socialist-leaning Columbia School of Journalism, has missed the boat. If homosexuality is "normal" and no aspect of the behavior is illegal, then how the H-LL would a background check find a homosexual much less ascertain the deviant's proclivity toward molestation of boys?

I am guessing that the only way to detect these deviants is as follows:

(1) Interview them carefully as regards lifestyle and have them pledge and sign a document stating that they are not homosexual and have no designs on boys.

(2) Instruct the boys that anytime a scoutmaster or leader acts sexually toward them, in the slightest fashion, they are to report it immediately.

(3) Have each scoutmaster agree by contract, in advance, to the civil penalties they will incur (e.g., big-time $$) in addition to criminal prosecution should they so much as fondle a boy.

Such draconian measures are a deterrent, of course, intended to make the lonely pervert look elsewhere and decide to do something else with this time.

What a sad state of affairs in our nation such that it comes to this. I grieve for all of us and for our great country and Western civilization.

46 posted on 12/02/2002 9:31:07 AM PST by tom h
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Mr. Slippy Fist strikes again!

Remember the gay motto..."They're all pink on the inside"! (Works for the RCC as well, it seems...)

Tell me again how we need to be Diverse and Tolerant of these destructive deviants?

47 posted on 12/02/2002 9:39:59 AM PST by Itzlzha
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL; Issaquahking; RLK; High-tech Redneck; Travis McGee; Squantos; ...
Here is the letter I just sent to the NECIS organization. I urge everyone to do likewise.

To whom it may concern,

From your own site:

Our Mission:

NECIS is a grassroots organization based in New Hampshire that is dedicated to fostering discussion and education about the current state of the scouting program in the United States. It was formed in response to the discriminatory practices of the Boy Scouts of America with respect to religion and sexual orientation, and comprises individuals and organizations who want to find ways to both support the scouting program, and to make the benefits that scouting has to offer equally available to all youth.

...How should we respond when an outstanding organization does something terribly wrong? Last year, the U.S. Supreme Court gave the Boy Scouts of America the right to ban gays from their organization (BSA v. Dale). Just because an action is legal, however, does not mean that it is morally right. We believe that the leadership of the BSA is doing a double disservice to our youth when they deny wonderful opportunities to some while teaching harmful lessons of divisiveness and discrimination to the millions that remain in the program.

Do you know something we don't? Please drop us a line: info@inclusivescouting.net

So, I am "dropping you a line".

I have been a scout leader for well over 20 years. I was involved in scouting as a youth and my to sons are both scouts. There is not a finer organization for America's young men.

You state that the scouts are "discriminating", doing "something terribly wrong" and at the same time that you want the benefits of scouting available to all.

What you refuse or fail to see is that a big part of the benefits are that scouting teaches a young man to be morally straight and to believe in and trust in God. Those words, and oaths, mean something. They mean that there is right and wrong in the world and in life and scouting teaches very straight forwardly about it.

The gay and lesbian, or homosexual, lifestyle is not morally straight. It is the antithesis of that. To have a leader who practices that lifestyle teach the boys is the antithesis of the scout oath and law, and would expose the boys to great risk ... irrespective of whatever spin or studies you may care to quote. We prefer old fashioned common sense ... or horse-sense.

In addition, as Patrick Henry said, "there is a God in Heaven". It is Him who we try and teach young men to please. That is another foundational principle and the very essence of what the Boy Scouts teach. To have someone who does not believe in God lead scouts is again the very antithesis of scouting.

The "terrible wrong" that is being perpetrated here is by those people and organizations who would force scouting to recount its basic principles and move away from them. What such organizations are attempting and proposing is intolerance at its worst. Scouting does not teach that others should not be tolerated ... it teaches boys that there are better choices they can make that will improve their lives and those of the people around them.

An effort to eradicate or force scouting away from this goal is simply not going to happen. If it ever does, scouting will cease to exist, because myself and millions like me will cease to work for the organization and will form another that continues to teach those same principles with the same restrictions.

I know my church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is the largest supporter of the BSA, would pull out immediately and would institute a program, already ready and waiting in the wings, to teach these fundamental and critical principles. A fundamental belief and adherence to such principles is part of the reason our nation ... or any nation ... remains strong over any extended period.

If you do not like this ... if you feel it is so terribly wrong ... then start your own organization that teaches something different. We would not stand in your way or try and force you to adopt ours. Do not for an instant presume you will be able to force us to adopt your or other ways of thinking in this regard on these critical issues. There are fundamental truths and principles that are not open to spin, debate or compromise. You are touching on them.

Sincerely,

Jeff Head
Emmett, ID


These people are either unwitting useful idiots (and some of them are certainly that), or they are continuing to move with a will to subvert and destroy the basic underlying fabric of our Republic and liberty. Many are of the latter variety. I teach scouts about them both.
48 posted on 12/02/2002 9:50:41 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; RightOnline; FourPeas
See my post number 48.
49 posted on 12/02/2002 9:52:34 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: VRWC_minion
Few of us live in "Jerry Springer" families; I tend to think most wives would dump a "gay" husband.
50 posted on 12/02/2002 10:18:07 AM PST by JoshGray
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