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NPR's Liasson & Williams Back Gore on Right-Wing Media Control [B.S. is knee deep]
Media Research Center ^ | 12/2/02

Posted on 12/02/2002 2:14:47 PM PST by 1bigdictator

NPR's Liasson & Williams Back Gore on Right-Wing Media Control

There’s “some truth” to Al Gore’s conspiracy theory about media outlets getting their marching orders from Republican Party Chairman Marc Racicot, Juan Williams argued on Fox News Sunday. Mara Liasson agreed, explaining that what Gore was simply “expressing is deep frustration on the part of Democrats who are now truly out of power in Washington and they don’t have the kind of editorial voice representing them in the media...they can’t get their events covered, they feel that they can’t get their message out.”

This from Williams and Liasson, an analyst and a reporter respectively for National Public Radio, the leading broadcast media voice of liberal aspirations.

After suggesting Gore’s theory rests on “the edge of looniness,” columnist Charles Krauthammer pointed out the obvious: “Liberals have had a monopoly for about 30 years and all of a sudden one or two opposition forces arise -- Washington Times, Fox News, Weekly Standard -- and all of a sudden it’s a great conspiracy. This is absurd.”

Near the end of the panel segment on the December 1 Fox News Sunday, host Tony Snow read aloud some of what Gore told the New York Observer in an interview published earlier in the week.

Gore claimed: “Fox News Network, the Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh -- there’s a bunch of them, and some of them are financed by wealthy ultra-conservative billionaires who make political deals with Republican administrations and the rest of the media.”

Plus: “Something will start at the Republican National Committee, inside the building, and it will explode the next day on the right-wing talk show network and on Fox News and in the newspapers which play this game, the Washington Times and others.”

(For Gore's interview with the New York Observer's Josh Benson: http://www2.observer.com/observer/pages/frontpage1.asp)

Snow went first to NPR White House reporter Mara Liasson and she tried to justify Gore’s latest lashing out: “I think that what Al Gore is expressing is deep frustration on the part of Democrats who are now truly out of power in Washington and they don’t have the kind of editorial voice representing them in the media. There’s no doubt that the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal or the Washington Times or the New York Post or the commentary on Fox, is conservative and I think that they’re extremely frustrated, they can’t get their events covered, they feel that they can’t get their message out -- now having a message in the first place is another question -- but I think that’s a real kind of cry of frustration from Al Gore and other Democratic leaders have said the same thing.”

Charles Krauthammer countered: “A 'cry for help?’ I’m a psychiatrist, I don’t usually practice on camera, but this is the edge of looniness. This idea that there’s a vast conspiracy. It sits in a building, it emanates, it has these tentacles, is really at the edge. He could use a little help.”

Juan Williams, who until recently hosted a talk show for NPR, nonetheless agreed with Gore’s theory: “Well it seems to me that there’s some truth to it. It seems to me that there’s some truth to the idea, I know conservatives say 'oh you know look at the New York Times is this liberal organ especially under Howell Raines the new editor, they’re going after the Masters and all the rest,’ but you know what, it seems to me that there is more of a direct and sort of out there statement coming from Rush Limbaugh, and the Washington Times, and people who are willing to say look, we are outright proud to be conservative and here’s what we stand for and we don’t think there’s any need to make an apology.”

Krauthammer snickered: “Liberals have had a monopoly for about 30 years and all of a sudden one or two opposition forces arise -- Washington Times, Fox News, Weekly Standard -- and all of a sudden it’s a great conspiracy. This is absurd.”

But Liasson stood by Gore’s basic complaint about a media biased to the right: “I don’t think it’s a great conspiracy, but the fact is I think Juan is right. There are more voices of opinion in terms of talk radio shows, editorial pages and they’re not liberal.”

Fred Barnes got in the last word as time ran out: “They’re such a minority though. I’d like to think that conservatives had a bigger voice, but they’re such a small minority compared to this vast media we have out there, mostly liberal, mostly friendly to liberals and the Democratic Party, that Al Gore is just wrong.”

Bottom line: How many liberals would trade the liberal slant of ABC News, CBS News, CNN, MSNBC, NBC News and PBS, as well as the New York Times and Washington Post, for one cable news network, a Washington, DC newspaper out-sold seven-to-one in its home market and one national radio personality?

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1 posted on 12/02/2002 2:14:48 PM PST by 1bigdictator
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To: 1bigdictator
"I don't think it's a great conspiracy, but the fact is I think Juan is right. There are more voices of opinion in terms of talk radio shows, editorial pages and they're not liberal."

Oh why must we vex the liberals by asking them to explain their heartfelt assertions? They feeeeeel unfairness is in the air, and that alone should suffice.

BTW Laisson's condescending school marm demeanor makes me want to wretch. FOX should dump her, much less pay her.

2 posted on 12/02/2002 2:34:03 PM PST by skeeter
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To: 1bigdictator
Oh well, if two non-biased NPR-ites say Albore is correct I guess that means we all owe him an apology. </sarcasm>
3 posted on 12/02/2002 2:34:52 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: skeeter
There are more voices of opinion in terms of talk radio shows, editorial pages and they're not liberal

That's because all the liberals in the "main stream" do not reveal their bias - in other words, they lie to the listeners about being unbiased.
Conservative commentators on the radio proudly proclaim their political orientation, because they don't have to hide what they truly are.

4 posted on 12/02/2002 2:36:58 PM PST by MrB
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To: 1bigdictator
They still think the problem is that the Democrats didn't get their message out.

The problem, of course, is that the Democrats did get their message out--loud and clear.

Just when you think these fools couldn't possibly get more deluded...they surprise you again!

Just stick your heads back down in the sand. That's a good place for you.

5 posted on 12/02/2002 2:37:16 PM PST by Savage Beast
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To: skeeter
This is all a good sign. If no one was paying a bit of attention to Rush, The Washington Times, or FNC, they could care less. They are running scared. It galls them that the PEOPLE, the Great Unwashed, finally have a source of information beyond their control. It is why they hate the Internet so much.
6 posted on 12/02/2002 2:37:31 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: 1bigdictator
Bottom line: How many liberals would trade the liberal slant of ABC News, CBS News, CNN, MSNBC, NBC News and PBS, as well as the New York Times and Washington Post, for one cable news network, a Washington, DC newspaper out-sold seven-to-one in its home market and one national radio personality?

Think about that. Not to mention NPR and a whole gaggle of other newspapers like the LA Times and Boston Globe. Just a few voices of dissent and they can't take it.

7 posted on 12/02/2002 2:38:08 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Paul Atreides
The VLWC (Compost and Slimes) brought down Nixon, as a "payback" for his anti-communist stands. I guess I'll not hold my breath waiting for Williams and Liasson to acknowledge that historical fact.
8 posted on 12/02/2002 2:40:04 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 1bigdictator
Juan and Mara conveniently forgot to remind everyone that the International Communist Conspiracy is still in business as long as there is a NYT, WarshPost, LA Times, ABCBSNBCTIMELIFECNN etc.
9 posted on 12/02/2002 2:48:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Paul Atreides
Watching the libs explain why more voices in the debate is a bad thing is high comedy & has the added benefit of contributing to their ongoing implosion.

Har-dee har har.

10 posted on 12/02/2002 2:50:09 PM PST by skeeter
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To: 1bigdictator
Bottom line: How many liberals would trade the liberal slant of ABC News, CBS News, CNN, MSNBC, NBC News and PBS, as well as the New York Times and Washington Post, for one cable news network, a Washington, DC newspaper out-sold seven-to-one in its home market and one national radio personality?

Actually, I don't think the liberal advantage is as great as it appears because of the quality and content of the respective audiences. Readers of the WashTimes and listeners to Rush are almost all committed conservatives. I also betcha Fox News is stoked with conservative refugees from CNN and the Big Three networks. Research shows the talk radio audience is better educated and wealthier - and they vote.

In contrast, many people watch the Big Three or take a major newspaper out of inertia or to get sports scores or because no alternative is available. I personally take two liberal papers, the Denver Post and NY Times because they give me a good overview of what's happening locally and in the world. I read them like people in the old Soviet Union read Pravda, knowing it's biased and filtering for bias as I read.

Bottom line is a definite minority of Big Three or even CNN watchers are committed liberal voters, where in contrast all but a tiny minority of Rush listeners are "broken glass Republicans."

The Dims are right to be worried. If they can't get people to vote for them with their present advantages, how will they do it as more media outlets follow the lead of Fox News to grow their audiences???

11 posted on 12/02/2002 2:52:47 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: 1bigdictator
I caught this segment and Krauthammer was great.

Krauthammer snickered: suddenly one or two opposition forces arise -- Washington Times, Fox News, Weekly Standard -- and all of a sudden it’s a great conspiracy. This is absurd.”

12 posted on 12/02/2002 2:56:44 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: skeeter
Watching the libs explain why more voices in the debate is a bad thing is high comedy...

Well said. They really do have Soviet Socialist tendencies, don't they?

13 posted on 12/02/2002 2:57:16 PM PST by expatpat
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To: 1bigdictator
I've posted this before and will do so again:

Anybody who is curious enough about this question to do some reading should read Bias by Bernard Goldberg. He was a reporter for CBS News for 28 years, including two decades for CBS Evening News with Dan Rather. He blew the whistle on pervasive liberal bias in mainstream media and basically lost his job for it. Gore and the liberals are so delusional it's almost not funny. Almost.

14 posted on 12/02/2002 2:59:01 PM PST by constable tom
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To: KC_Conspirator; anniegetyourgun; Poohbah; Pokey78; deport; McGavin999
Charles Krauthammer countered: “A 'cry for help?’ I’m a psychiatrist, I don’t usually practice on camera, but this is the edge of looniness. This idea that there’s a vast conspiracy. It sits in a building, it emanates, it has these tentacles, is really at the edge. He could use a little help.”

You just had to SEE the sneer on Krauthammer's face when he said this. He almost burst out laughing. He could hardly contain himself. And later on, when Juan was agreeing with Gore, Krauthammer looked over at him with a look of utter disbelief on his face and said, "Juan, you have GOT to be kidding."

Imagine, whinning about THREE conservative news outlets, when they've had thousands for years.

15 posted on 12/02/2002 3:01:26 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Savage Beast
I agree, The "Rats", like ostriches tried to stick their head in the sand. Only problem is, we poured conkrete on the ground. Now they complain that it gave them a headache :>)
16 posted on 12/02/2002 3:02:25 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: 1bigdictator
National Public Liberal Radio: Spreading Socialism on your dime.
17 posted on 12/02/2002 3:02:49 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: skeeter
I honestly cannot believe what I'm hearing from some of them. Did you see that interview Gore gave last week to the NY Post? It isn't even comprehendable English:

For now, Mr. Gore can only attempt to explain what motivates the ceaseless lampooning he continues to face from America’s columnists and commentators. "That’s postmodernism," he offered. "It’s the combination of narcissism and nihilism that really defines postmodernism, and that’s another interview for another time, if you’re interested in it.

18 posted on 12/02/2002 3:03:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: 1bigdictator
...but this is the edge of looniness.

This is a great quote from Krauthammer. Many liberals are standing on the edge with Gore.

19 posted on 12/02/2002 3:03:43 PM PST by Balata
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To: All
Juan Williams, who until recently hosted a talk show for NPR,

Did Juan get fired or something?

20 posted on 12/02/2002 3:04:38 PM PST by HoneyBoo
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To: Howlin
How would you like to see Krauthammer do an interview with Gore? What a great thread that would be. #;^)
21 posted on 12/02/2002 3:05:44 PM PST by Balata
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To: 1bigdictator
``we are outright proud to be conservative and here’s what we stand for and we don’t think there’s any need to make an apology.”

So Juan Williams thinks one has to apologize for being conservative?

22 posted on 12/02/2002 3:07:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Brad Cloven
"National Liberal Radio: Spreading Socialism on your dime."

Defund this network and its evil cousin, PBS.
23 posted on 12/02/2002 3:13:07 PM PST by Sparta
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To: 1bigdictator
Every time I go on a long road trip, as I did over Thanksgiving, I listen to large chunks of National People's Radio. I refer to it as "Opposition Research," or just knowing what the enemy is doing.

For NPR shills to discuss media bias is like a couple of fish discussing water. They are up to their ears in it, but they have no perspective to understand what it is, and how it is different from air, for instance.

If I ever become a Member of Congress for real, one of my first acts will be to challenge all comers, specifically Barney Frank, to a live debate on the floor -- during Special Orders when the official day is over. It will be an Oxford-style debate, on the subject, "Resolved, that NPR news is too biased to deserve a cent of taxpayer subsidy." It will be done by random choice among the transcripts of "All Things Considered" for the previous 30 days. The debaters will have half an hour to prepare their remarks based on the selected day's transcript, and then will go at it with hammer and tongs.

I hope that comes to pass.

Congressman Billybob

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24 posted on 12/02/2002 3:13:18 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Brad Cloven
With all of the lefty outlets available to the socialists, I think it is high time to defund NPR, PBS, the Legal Services Corporation and all of the other troughs that these swine feed from.
25 posted on 12/02/2002 3:16:11 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Paul Atreides
"This is all a good sign. If no one was paying a bit of attention to Rush, The Washington Times, or FNC, they could care less. They are running scared. It galls them that the PEOPLE, the Great Unwashed, finally have a source of information beyond their control. It is why they hate the Internet so much."

Amen. The fact that they're even debating this is a stunning sea change.

26 posted on 12/02/2002 3:16:27 PM PST by groanup
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To: Paul Atreides
"It is why they hate the Internet so much".

Algore invented the internet, though, remember? <\sarcasm>

27 posted on 12/02/2002 3:17:42 PM PST by tuna_battle
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To: Balata
I would pay GOOD money to see that. Heck, I'd drive somewhere to see it live.
28 posted on 12/02/2002 3:18:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: skeeter
Prior to FoxNews and Free Republic what did conservatives have to watch or read? Rush was always there and I always listened to him. Aside from these three, who else was there, being really promiment? Even my weekly local newspaper is liberal. So what are the Dems/Liberals talking about?
29 posted on 12/02/2002 3:22:38 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: Howlin
I could see it now. Gore lying back on the psychiatrist's couch with Krauthammer conducting the interview for about 3 hours. Then Krauthammer hands Gore a bill for his professional services, which pushes gore over the edge never to return. I had better stop there. LOL!




30 posted on 12/02/2002 3:25:11 PM PST by Balata
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To: 1bigdictator
How can Liasson and Williams be allowed to defend Gore on FOX, if FOX is really part of this conservative media conspiracy against him and other liberals?
This doesn't make any sense.
31 posted on 12/02/2002 3:25:30 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Howlin
Incoherent is about right. Sounds like Gore responded to the question with a lecture on art appreciation. (Personally I think he's nuts)
32 posted on 12/02/2002 3:27:09 PM PST by skeeter
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To: americanbychoice
LOL!
33 posted on 12/02/2002 3:28:42 PM PST by Savage Beast
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To: 1bigdictator
Why do I torture at work to earn tax dollars (as do You, my friend) to pay for flaming propaganda from people who are my sworn enemies?

Yo, Republicans! Your recent victory will most certainly be short lived if you do not once and for all de-fund the left wing-nuts at NPR.

34 posted on 12/02/2002 3:35:08 PM PST by friendly
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To: colorado tanker
Actually, I don't think the liberal advantage is as great as it appears because of the quality and content of the respective audiences...

I heard a Russian born immigrant say that the American media is worse than the Pravda and more effective. He said it was because Russians knew that the Pravda was full of lies. Whereas the NYT and the like do not tell the readers, knowing and unknowing alike, that they are biased. They pretend to be main stream. Thus, the average reader does not question the headlines and articles.

35 posted on 12/02/2002 3:37:27 PM PST by VRW Conspirator
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To: skeeter
Plus: “Something will start at the Republican National Committee, inside the building, and it will explode the next day on the right-wing talk show network and on Fox News and in the newspapers which play this game, the Washington Times and others.”

Wow! Talk about projection. This is exactly what happens in liberaldom and it's been happening for decades.

36 posted on 12/02/2002 3:39:17 PM PST by Freakazoid
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To: Freakazoid
One thing I've learned about the left. If they accuse you of something, anything, no matter how horrendous, it's because they've been doing it for years.
37 posted on 12/02/2002 3:43:09 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Savage Beast

They still think the problem is that the Democrats didn't get their message out.

The problem, of course, is that the Democrats did get their message out--loud and clear.

Not only that, but what REALLY annoys them is that it is these "conservative" sources that ultimately got out their real message. Every little kooky thing these socialists say has been put out for millions to hear. They absolutely hate it. They want conservative sources shut down so that they can continue to spread their extreme message to their constituencies while having it whitewashed for the rest of Americans on the nightly news. They absolutely abhor the light of public scrutiny, and that is what is causing their downfall.

38 posted on 12/02/2002 3:47:00 PM PST by MWS
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To: MWS
I know it. To paraphrase Jane Fonda: Bad things don't grow in the light.
39 posted on 12/02/2002 3:49:14 PM PST by Savage Beast
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To: groanup; skeeter
I remember being stunned a few years ago, hearing the mainstream media attributing the drop in viewership and paper sales to the internet and lamenting the fact that the people having "too much information."
41 posted on 12/02/2002 4:15:41 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Jorge
How can Liasson and Williams be allowed to defend Gore on FOX, if FOX is really part of this conservative media conspiracy against him and other liberals? This doesn't make any sense.

EXACTLY! Can you imagine Dan Rather giving air time to Bernard Goldberg? No way, Jose.
42 posted on 12/02/2002 4:19:48 PM PST by klute
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To: 1bigdictator
There's another BIG difference nobody pointed out in any of these exchanges . . . Rush will not deny his allegiance. Everybody know the Wash. Times is slanted to the right. FOX can say they are "neutral" but it always seems to be tounge in cheek - they DO offer a liberal on the other side of each issue - but it usually is a wishy washy liberal.

The problem with the liberal media is THEY DEFINE "LIBERAL" AS MODERATE - which means you could never come to the conclusion that there is a liberal media. Donahue is a perfect example of it. When Donahue interviewed Andy Rooney, Rooney basically said "Come on Phil, you don't think there is a liberal bias in the media?" and Phil's reply had something to do with pro-abortion being a moderate stance...blah, blah, blah. The battle continues.

43 posted on 12/02/2002 4:31:49 PM PST by StopThePress
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To: Paul Atreides
oh well, if two non-biased NPR-ites say Albore is correct I guess that means we all owe him an apology.

Wait till they find out how many of those they've previously deemed *politically astute* have actually been moles undermining their efforts all along. Sure, they might have suspected a dozen or two, but they'd never guess that there are actually hundreds working against them from within.

[There, that oughta get them going. Now watch for the purges to begin....]

-archy-/-

44 posted on 12/02/2002 5:14:20 PM PST by archy
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To: Bob J
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45 posted on 12/02/2002 5:47:44 PM PST by agitator
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To: 1bigdictator
Juan Williams is one of the monuments to the quota system of Affirmative Action. It is appropriate that he is a regular on NATIONAL PEOPLES RADIO!

He is the group that includes Bernard Shaw and Judy Woodruff!
46 posted on 12/02/2002 6:03:22 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: 1bigdictator
Does anyone know how The Weekly Standard's circulation figures compare to one of the liberal weeklies like The New Republic? It's ludicrous for Gore to pretend that The Washington Times or The Weekly Standard are major players in the world of the American media.
47 posted on 12/02/2002 6:06:19 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: 1bigdictator
Unfortunately the fact is that the culture is till overwhelmingly liberal. Those eeeevil conservative organs like the Wash Times and a few others affect only a minute proportion of Americans as compared to left-wing collossi like the N.Y. Times, The Wash Post, network news, the education establishment, and the exceptionally liberal music, tv and movie industries. Conservatives have just recently gotten a toehold on the national stage after being kicked out of the theater for thirty plus years by the libs. Until Thomas Sowell is better known on campuses than Noam Chomsky, the charge of conservative bias is a risably false one.
48 posted on 12/02/2002 6:30:46 PM PST by driftless
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To: Paul Atreides
I remember being stunned a few years ago, hearing the mainstream media attributing the drop in viewership and paper sales to the internet and lamenting the fact that the people having "too much information."

The mainstream media would rather address a bewildered herd than an informed and contemplative public.

49 posted on 12/02/2002 6:57:29 PM PST by groanup
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To: 1bigdictator
Juan Williams, who until recently hosted a talk show for NPR

Juan Williams. Just another liberal talk show host who couldn't make it. Follows in the long line - Jim Hightower, Mario Cuomo, et al.

50 posted on 12/02/2002 7:03:00 PM PST by jackbill
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