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I'm not against a payroll tax cut but Kerry's plan is all smoke and mirrors.

I don't understand why this can't be characterized as an attempt to destroy Social Security!

Exactly, where are the old people screameing about this? He is proposing cutting Social Security taxes, i.e. reducing the money available to pay benefits to seniors. For all the talk about Lock Boxes what ever they are this is a direct assault on Seniors. Why can the democrats get away with it?

Right! That's what makes the whole thing so disingenuous. I swear the Dems are such losers when it comes to tax cuts. They try so hard to sound convincing but...

Remember Clinton's middle class tax cut? Oh yeah, it never happened.

Plus, this notion that people who don't pay any income tax didn't get anything back is bogus. Most people who earn less than $30,000 DO get money back even though they don't pay any income tax. It's called the Earned Income Tax Credit and it was designed to make up for the disparity of those who get hit so hard on the PR tax even though they don't make a lot of money.

Kerry's a dip.

He also said on MTP, that we have an obligation to our children not to "borrow" from them in the form of tax cuts today. Well, Senator, what the h*ll is this cock-a-mamie scheme if it isn't "borrowing" payroll taxes today so we can pony up even more later?

I don't understand why this can't be characterized as an attempt to destroy Social Security!

The hoar heads don't care as long as it's the boomers who are getting screwed.