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Hot race has cash and Bush - Louisiana's unique Senate runoff has look of a major campaign
The Dallas Morning News ^ | December 4, 2002 | By DAVID JACKSON / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 12/04/2002 2:05:10 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


Hot race has cash and Bush

Louisiana's unique Senate runoff has look of a major campaign

12/04/2002

By DAVID JACKSON / The Dallas Morning News

NEW ORLEANS - It won't decide control of the Senate, but Louisiana's overtime race between Sen. Mary Landrieu and challenger Suzanne Haik Terrell has many of the makings of a major contest: big infusions of cash, mudslinging and, on Tuesday, a visit from President Bush.

Ms. Terrell, the state elections commissioner, welcomed Mr. Bush's appearance at a $1.25 million fund-raiser near the French Quarter, hoping to follow other Republicans who rode the president's popularity to victory last month.

"I will not be a roadblock to your leadership," she told the president.

Democrats, meanwhile, are banking on Ms. Landrieu to ease the pain of last month's losses. But Ms. Landrieu, facing a tight race in a state that Mr. Bush carried by 8 percentage points in 2000, has taken to calling herself an independent just as likely to buck her own party as the Republicans.

"The real question in this race is not what national party we should represent, but do the people of Louisiana have a right to be represented by a senator who has been independent and effective?" she said.

Republicans hold 51 seats in the Senate, so they will control the chamber whether Ms. Terrell triumphs or not. But under the Senate's procedural rules, every vote counts, so Mr. Bush and the GOP want to extend their new majority.

Pollsters forecast a dead heat headed into Saturday's runoff, another unique feature of Louisiana's unique style of politics.

Most states hold early primaries in which the political parties select their general election candidates. The Bayou State holds an open primary on Election Day itself, with the top two finishers qualifying for a runoff if no one receives more than 50 percent.

Ms. Landrieu, an incumbent first elected in a close 1996 runoff and the daughter of former New Orleans Mayor Moon Landrieu, finished well ahead of the field on Nov. 5 with 46 percent of the vote. Ms. Terrell won just 27 percent but had to contend with two other well-known Republicans.

Republicans hope a unified effort will carry Ms. Terrell to victory.

Mr. Bush told supporters Tuesday that Ms. Terrell would help him break past Senate deadlocks over energy, Medicare, judges and prescription drug assistance.

"I'm confident I have an ally in Senator Suzie Terrell," he said.

Ms. Landrieu is seeking to make an issue of the heavy Republican investment in Ms. Terrell's campaign. The incumbent said conservative groups have spent more than $10 million in ads distorting her record on taxes and abortion. And she called appearances by GOP "big guns" such as former President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney "overkill."

Ms. Landrieu has stressed that she backed Mr. Bush on his tax cut, the threat of force against Iraq, and the new Department of Homeland Security. She said she has also opposed Mr. Bush when necessary, arguing that his trade policy is hurting Louisiana sugar growers.

Ms. Terrell and her allies said Ms. Landrieu's claims of centrism are a sham, calling her too liberal for most Louisiana voters.

As for the big-name Republicans backing her campaign, Ms. Terrell said that if Ms. Landrieu "wants to bring Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy to Louisiana, that's fine by me."

The Landrieu-Terrell race has been strikingly personal.

During one of their televised debates, Ms. Terrell suggested that Ms. Landrieu had abandoned her Catholicism in her support of abortion rights. After the telecast, an angry Ms. Landrieu told her opponent, "This is your last campaign." Ms. Terrell called the comment a threat, but Landrieu supporters described it as more of a prophecy.

Both sides attribute the negative tone of the campaign to the millions dollars pouring in from conservative and liberal groups, the last time many of these organizations can act once the new campaign finance laws take effect next year. The state's other senator, Democrat John Breaux, said the race has turned into "the second Louisiana purchase."

Analysts are projecting a neck-and-neck runoff, making events such as the president's visit all the more important.

Asked about Mr. Bush, Ms. Landrieu said: "I know he represents his party - that's fine. But I represent the state of Louisiana."

Ms. Landrieu said her opponent would be merely a rubber-stamp for the president, an image Ms. Terrell sought to dispel during her introduction of Mr. Bush in New Orleans.

"I know you want a senator who will bend your ear about what's important to Louisiana," Ms. Terrell said.

E-mail djackson@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/tsw/stories/120402dntexlasenate.3177f.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Louisiana; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: louisiana; marylandrieu; presidentbush; senaterace; suzanneterrell
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1 posted on 12/04/2002 2:05:10 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: 7.62mm; ABG(anybody but Gore); alligator; AmericanMom1; Askel5; Aurelius; Back-Porch-Philosopher; ..
Hot race has cash and Bush - Louisiana's unique
Senate runoff has look of a major campaign

I'm using this article as an opportunity to start a Louisiana Ping List.
Let me know if you want ON or OFF. Thanks!



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Louisiana ping list!. . .don't be shy.

2 posted on 12/04/2002 3:09:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
I live in Metairie, Louisiana and we are working tirelessly, day and night, to win this election for Suzie Terrell. The RNC is also here, campaigning independently on this election. The RNC cannot directly associate itself with the Louisiana Republican party or the Terrell Campaign because of campaign finance laws. My husband and I are helping all of the campaign groups.

A lady from Texas (with the Mighty Victory Strike Force)is arriving today to stay with me. She will be a volunteer with the RNC effort. We can use all the help we can get.

Mary Landrieu continually lies about her liberal record. She did this in a debate on CSpan a few days ago. When Suzie Terrell tried to call her to task for the lie, the moderator would not let her correct, saying that Mary had already answered that question.

Any prayers are help in this election are greatly appreciated.

3 posted on 12/04/2002 5:16:03 AM PST by Patriot1
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To: MeeknMing
put me on the list please thank you Jack
4 posted on 12/04/2002 5:47:49 AM PST by cajun-jack
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To: Patriot1
Bump for Terrell victory. Getting 52 Senators would be huge. It is a big insurance policy against RINO defections on key votes, and it strengthens the committee structures.
5 posted on 12/04/2002 6:34:01 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: MeeknMing
a Louisiana Ping List.

Hi, Meekn: Please put me on at least until after the election! ~Thanks

6 posted on 12/04/2002 6:44:57 AM PST by condi2008
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To: MeeknMing
Louisiana is my adopted home state. Put me on the list.
7 posted on 12/04/2002 7:00:53 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: MeeknMing
Maybe in the aftermath of this election fiasco Louisiana will consider establishing primary elections...
8 posted on 12/04/2002 7:06:21 AM PST by Redbob
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To: MeeknMing
Sure MnM, keep me on the list :)
9 posted on 12/04/2002 8:19:36 AM PST by Darlin'
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To: MeeknMing
I want on the Louisiana ping list. Everyone knows we have the most interesting political races anywhere.
10 posted on 12/04/2002 8:58:24 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Redbob
Our system serves its purpose well, to keep whiny third parties from stealing votes from the serious contenders. Besides, I like our unique system for other reasons.
11 posted on 12/04/2002 9:01:00 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
As someone who usually votes Libertarian, I also like your system. It gives third parties an excellent chance to compete in the first round but cuts them out of the second round, thus precluding the post-election whining of the two party duopolists.
12 posted on 12/04/2002 9:05:17 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Or you could look at it that way. It should be adopted by as many states as possible.
13 posted on 12/04/2002 9:07:55 AM PST by Sparta
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To: MeeknMing; Patriot1
We also need to assemble a list of Louisiana RINOs to take out in the upcoming state elections next year. I can think of a few who need to be on the list. Tim Coulon, Jefferson Parish President, Vic Steely(RINO-Lake Charles) the legislator who authored the largest income and property tax increase in Louisiana history, and our current governor Mike Foster. Any other suggestions?
14 posted on 12/04/2002 9:11:13 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Redbob
.......Maybe in the aftermath of this election fiasco........

Just curious, What is the fiasco that you see?
15 posted on 12/04/2002 9:21:47 AM PST by deport
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To: Sparta
..........and our current governor Mike Foster.........

What is Gov. Foster running for? I thought he was term limited as far as the Governorship..... is he running for something else?
16 posted on 12/04/2002 9:23:50 AM PST by deport
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To: deport
Good point. We do have Breaux's seat up in '04 and you never know, Foster could do a Morial(Get the term-limits repealed).
17 posted on 12/04/2002 9:33:08 AM PST by Sparta
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To: Redbob
Isn't this election unconstitutional? Are not states mandated to elect senators on a specific date? When will LA get its act together.
18 posted on 12/04/2002 11:36:42 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Patriot1
Thank you for all your efforts! We will be victorious! God bless you and your guests and all the other tireless workers!
19 posted on 12/04/2002 11:41:40 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Jack Black
LA began using this method of non partisan elections back in 1977 with the non partisan primary held prior to the General in Nov. The procedure used now is the results of a court ordered ruling (sometime in the mid 90s) that stopped LA from electing Federal positions prior to the date specified in the Constitution. Many times the non partisan primary produced a majority winner thus that person was elected before the Constitution called for date. So the Legislature (1998 or so) changed the law to hold the non partisan elections for Federal positions on the Constitution specified date with a runoff if needed to be held later... Georgia has a run off like this if no one gets a majority on the appointed date, if I'm not mistaken.
20 posted on 12/04/2002 12:08:49 PM PST by deport
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To: Patriot1
Prayers are extended for you and all the volunteers for guidance, wisdom and strength for this upcoming election.

FYI...pray that these '1996 election voter frauds" be prevented.

They're Stealing the Election [LA]-Did voter fraud swing last year's [1996] closest Senate race?
Source: Reader's Digest; August 1997; Author: Trevor Armbrister

21 posted on 12/04/2002 12:17:39 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: deport
So it's illegal to elect before the date specified by OK to elect AFTER the date specified? That doesn't make sense.
22 posted on 12/04/2002 3:00:57 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: cajun-jack
Done, thanks !
23 posted on 12/04/2002 3:19:28 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: condi2008; bigeasy_70118; Darlin'
Thanks folks!
24 posted on 12/04/2002 3:26:47 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Jack Black
LOL... well a lot of things don't make sense... But to clear up one point. I was wrong in saying the Constitution specified the date, manner, etc, instead it leaves that to the states unless specified by Congress. Congress specified the date of the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November for the election date. So that was the basis of the Supreme Court ruling regarding electing them early.... My bad on getting the date thing wrong.
25 posted on 12/04/2002 4:40:09 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Hey, no problem. It's just that they are STILL not electing them the first tuesday after the first monday. The OTHER 49 states all figured out how. What's up with the idiot legislators of Louisianna? Do we, citizens for good government, have to sue their dumb butts again to get them to follow the clearly written law? I just may. Any lawyer out there interested?
26 posted on 12/04/2002 6:45:53 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Patriot1
Mary Landrieu continually lies about her liberal record.

Truer words were never spoken. Mary has reinvented herself for the election in hopes that the people of Louisiana will believe her lies and not what she has done. For five years she had an extremely liberal voting record and has only started voting more moderately in the sixth year of her term, since she is running for reelection.

But Mary can't get around the fact that she has an abysmal 14% lifetime rating by the American Conservative Union, a terrible 85% rating by the liberal Americans for Democratic Action, an "F" rating by the National Taxpayers Union, and a 10% rating by the Gunowners of America. These totally unacceptable ratings by national organizations are evidence that Mary is a liar and a phoney! Furthermore, she is pro-abortion is the most pro-life state in the Union. Mary needs to go! On to victory for Suzie Terrell!

27 posted on 12/04/2002 8:09:02 PM PST by newslady
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To: Sparta
We also need to assemble a list of Louisiana RINOs to take out in the upcoming state elections next year. I can think of a few who need to be on the list. Tim Coulon, Jefferson Parish President, Vic Stelly(RINO-Lake Charles) the legislator who authored the largest income and property tax increase in Louisiana history, and our current governor Mike Foster.

We will not have the opportunity to take these RINOs out, since they supposedly have no intention of running for anything in the future. But Coulon is the worst one, since he is featured in a radio campaign ad for Mary. He is worse than a RINO--he is a traitor. If I am ever in the same room with Coulon again, I will let him have a piece of my mind concerning his traitorous activities(but I will do this politely, of course, since pubbies are never rude).

28 posted on 12/04/2002 8:15:39 PM PST by newslady
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To: MeeknMing
I'd like to be on the list.

WFTR
Bill

29 posted on 12/04/2002 8:35:21 PM PST by WFTR
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To: WFTR
You're on.....and great website, thanks !!
30 posted on 12/04/2002 8:49:54 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Hi MeeknMing! I would love to be a part of your Louisiana ping list.. I'm in Natchitoches and Suzie has a huge block of support here...It's so nice to see the sea of blue campaign signs everywhere I go :-)
31 posted on 12/04/2002 10:09:13 PM PST by Larightgirl
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To: Larightgirl
Thanks !
32 posted on 12/05/2002 4:48:16 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: newslady
Ahhhh...Landrieu lies again!
She lied when she said (and also in her latest attack ads), that Suzy never said a thing to Bush when he was in town about the sugar imports from Mexico (hurting Louisiana sugar farmers).
Suzy did indeed mention it to Bush, and it was part of the NAFTA that was signed by (who else) Clinton. Brownroots should have seen it coming.

If you don't want to vote for Landrieu, at least make the effort to vote AGAINST Landrieu.

33 posted on 12/05/2002 2:08:46 PM PST by chemicalman
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To: Sparta
Your system keeps "whiny third parties" off the ballot?
How does that work?
By letting you load up the ballot with, what was it? Seven GOP candidates?
34 posted on 12/05/2002 2:24:08 PM PST by Redbob
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To: deport
Fiasco from the standpoint that, over a month after Election Day, Louisiana is no closer to having a Senator selected - you've only managed to narrow the field somewhat, having tossed out some (but not all) of the truly bizarre candidates.
35 posted on 12/05/2002 2:26:38 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Redbob
I agree that they haven't selected a winner as of yet... But isn't that their choice to establish the election process as they want. If they are happy with the process and it's legal, let them get it on, imo.
36 posted on 12/05/2002 2:32:03 PM PST by deport
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To: Austin Willard Wright
plus it gives us more opportunities to gather together and cook and drink beer and dawg out the "dawg" we don't want to "tree" aaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!! lol
37 posted on 12/05/2002 2:40:13 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: Redbob
Third party candidates got on the ballot, but they can't play the role of spoiler in the general election.
38 posted on 12/05/2002 2:50:51 PM PST by Sparta
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To: chemicalman
I'm sorry and I know this will get me exiled from Louisiana, but I think our sugar farmers need to get off welfare. We should have a free market in all commodities. I read somewhere that the United States pays three times the world average in sugar prices.
39 posted on 12/05/2002 2:52:59 PM PST by Sparta
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To: chemicalman
Ahhhh...Landrieu lies again! She lied when she said (and also in her latest attack ads), that Suzy never said a thing to Bush when he was in town about the sugar imports from Mexico (hurting Louisiana sugar farmers). Suzy did indeed mention it to Bush, and it was part of the NAFTA that was signed by (who else) Clinton. Brownroots should have seen it coming. If you don't want to vote for Landrieu, at least make the effort to vote AGAINST Landrieu.

You certainly nailed Mary, chemicalman. By the way, Mary's "negative" ads are lies, while Suzie's tell the truth!

40 posted on 12/05/2002 8:30:26 PM PST by newslady
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To: MeeknMing
Please add me to your list.
41 posted on 12/05/2002 8:33:43 PM PST by Mudbug
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To: newslady
And doesn't she have an 85% or 90% FAVOURABLE rating from Planned Parenthood???? *ugh*
42 posted on 12/05/2002 8:40:18 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: MeeknMing; sweetliberty; nicmarlo; Budge
Just posted this article on "Voter Hauling" in Louisiana on the Freepers Against Vote Fraud thread. It is pretty good reading and very revelant.

http://www.suzieterrell.com/voterhaul.html

43 posted on 12/05/2002 8:42:15 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Jack Black
Isn't this election unconstitutional? Are not states mandated to elect senators on a specific date? When will LA get its act together.

Actually..Louisiana has not a "unique" system as the press will tell you..it really is a common sense system..to think Louisiana is the only state that does NOT pay for Democrat or Republican party primary..why should tax payers pony up to pay for these two parties when no other state does it for other parties like the libertarian or taxpayer or nose picker parties??? Let everyone run together..if no one gets a majority then the top two run against each other..and there is no spoiler..which has hurt GOP candidates..GOP candidates can be sore losers and run third parties in the so called "runoff" and give the demos a win without a majority..

44 posted on 12/05/2002 8:49:15 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: Canadian Outrage
And doesn't she have an 85% or 90% FAVOURABLE rating from Planned Parenthood???? *ugh*

I don't know Mary's rating with Planned Parenthood, but in 2001 she had a 100% rating the the National Abortion Rights League and a 0% rating with the National Right to Life group. And Mary has even uttered the words "pro-life," since she voted to ban partial-birth abortion, but only after she voted time and time again to GUT the bill! Of course, on every other "life" issue, she voted with the pro-abortionists. What a hypocrite! I guess she thinks we forgot that six years ago our beloved former Archbishop Hannan announced to Catholics that it would be a sin to vote for Mary because of her pro-abortion views. Mary is trying to reinvent herself for this election, and she screams "negative campaigning" when Suzie tells the truth about her very liberal voting record.

45 posted on 12/06/2002 4:39:48 AM PST by newslady
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To: Mudbug
You're on now, thanks !
46 posted on 12/06/2002 5:46:46 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: TheLion
Thanks for your link.

Terrell, a Republican, is asking Landrieu and the Democratic Party to follow state law, which bans paying people to take voters to the polls on Election Day.

On a more humorous note, here's algore's team in action during election 2000 (no offense to anyone intended):



47 posted on 12/06/2002 5:51:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing; sweetliberty; nicmarlo; Budge
Thanks for the laugh!
48 posted on 12/06/2002 9:26:13 AM PST by TheLion
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To: MeeknMing; TheLion
lol!!! thanks for the ping, lion.
49 posted on 12/06/2002 10:28:40 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: BerniesFriend
Actually..Louisiana has not a "unique" system as the press will tell you..it really is a common sense system Common sense has nothing to do with legality. I claim that the system is unique and illegal. Unique because all other states, by a variety of processes manage to select their Senators on the day required by law, while only the state of Louisiana does not. Illegal because the Constitution is clear on the date for elections.

I personally agree that the State should not run primary elections. I do not see any mandate that says Senators must be elected by majorities. Clinton never got a majority of the popular vote, only a plurality. If they want only one election, in Novemember then they should let the high vote getter have the seat. If they want a simple majority elected candidate in Nov. they need a runnoff race BEFORE November. As they had previously, only the top two must always run again in the general, even if one got 55% on the first round.

50 posted on 12/06/2002 11:42:17 AM PST by Jack Black
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