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Caption - Palestinian Funeral in Gaza - Mustafa Sabah
Yahoo News Photos ^ | 12/5/02 | Reuters

Posted on 12/05/2002 9:11:00 AM PST by NormsRevenge

A masked Palestinian gunman holds a handmade rocket launcher in Gaza during the funeral of Mustafa Sabah, who was killed by an Israeli air strike, December 5, 2002. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has approved plans that would seal off northern Israel from the West Bank by extending a security fence to defend against Palestinian attacks, government officials said.  (Oleg Popov/Reuters)
Thu Dec 5, 7:33 AM ET

A masked Palestinian gunman holds a handmade rocket launcher in Gaza during the funeral of Mustafa Sabah, who was killed by an Israeli air strike, December 5, 2002. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites) has approved plans that would seal off northern Israel from the West Bank by extending a security fence to defend against Palestinian attacks, government officials said. (Oleg Popov/Reuters)


TOPICS: Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: gaza; mustafa
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1 posted on 12/05/2002 9:11:00 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
"Hey guys, it's this way......sheesh!"
3 posted on 12/05/2002 9:17:45 AM PST by battlegearboat
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To: NormsRevenge
"Sheesh...It's 110-degrees out here, and we're all wearing black wool masks!...I need to find a different nutball group to belong to."
4 posted on 12/05/2002 9:20:08 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: NormsRevenge
"Notice how my rocket is color cordinated with the dead guy's burial blanket? Who says muslims aren't fashion minded???"
5 posted on 12/05/2002 9:22:20 AM PST by kjam22
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To: NormsRevenge
All your giant green crayons are belong to us.
6 posted on 12/05/2002 9:23:11 AM PST by abishai
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To: NormsRevenge
AH, the fearless freedom fighter. Face covered so no one knows who they are, armed with the lastest rocket on his way to the local school to bravely murder the little children.

And the also fearless leaders of these morons directing them from some hidden place so as not to be caught in any crossfire that may result.

7 posted on 12/05/2002 9:25:43 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: PeopleKillPeople
So, in other words, you look at that picture and all you see are our "moderate Arab friends."
9 posted on 12/05/2002 9:29:24 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: NormsRevenge
Is someone painting this guy's face with laser targeting?
10 posted on 12/05/2002 9:32:10 AM PST by aruanan
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Does anyone here have a clue what is going on? Or do we just poke fun at difference cause we don't understand a thing?

Oh, quite more than a clue. This picture is further evidence that the sovereign nation of Israel is still not acting like a sovereign nation. When they decide to bulldoze the pali's back to Jordan, from whence they came, we'll have a lot fewer pictures like this to caption.

Hat-Trick

12 posted on 12/05/2002 9:35:23 AM PST by Hat-Trick
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To: NormsRevenge

Bazooka Joe . . . . . . Mort


Bazooka Mort?

13 posted on 12/05/2002 9:36:18 AM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: abishai
LOL!
14 posted on 12/05/2002 9:36:45 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: PeopleKillPeople
if America was occupied

Please explain your use of the word "occupied" in your comment -- not sure where you're coming from here -- are you talking about the settlement areas or all of Isreal ?

16 posted on 12/05/2002 9:39:20 AM PST by twyn1
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To: PeopleKillPeople
The Israeli govt was willing to give up a helluva a few years ago and Arafat turned it down. I don;t see any going back for either side at this point.

Violence begets violence.

Will it get "better"? Maybe, for a bit, but I'm not too hopeful that the Palestinians are thru being used as stooges for their Arab brethren who seek the annihilation of Israel.. period. IMO
17 posted on 12/05/2002 9:39:33 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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add this to my previous reply ..a helluva lot of territory a few years ago
18 posted on 12/05/2002 9:41:25 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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If you get the dreaded "little red x" on the top two pictures in post #13, right-click on them and then hit "Show Picture."

(The pictures were there when I previewed 'em. Honest.)

20 posted on 12/05/2002 9:44:04 AM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Why is that IMPOSSIBLE? Moving the refugee state of palestine back to Jordan would prevent the very things you suggest could happen in your first post. Just because the current Israeli politicians lack the stones to do it does not make it impossible.

As far as I'm concerned, when Israel starts acting like a truly sovereign nation, regardless of how our meely-mouthed US politicians would react, they will be much better off. They should return to remembering exactly Whose nation and Whose people they are, and begin acting like it.

If they don't, then I'd say your first post describes some of the very likely outcomes for their tolerance.

Hat-Trick

21 posted on 12/05/2002 9:46:09 AM PST by Hat-Trick
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To: PeopleKillPeople
they will eventually have to give up a lot more to the Palestinians?

Such as what? ALL OF ISRAEL??? That still will not satisfy the "Palestinians" since they will insist that the area be 100% ethnically cleansed of Jews, just like all the other 22 Muslim Arab homelands.

Say, if you think it is such a terrible thing for Israel to become an "apartheid" Jewish state, why is it OK for the Palestinians to be an apartheid "no Jews allowed" state?

22 posted on 12/05/2002 9:46:52 AM PST by Alouette
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abu bazooka
24 posted on 12/05/2002 9:49:55 AM PST by Bill Davis FR
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Would you prefer that all Israelis just slit their own throats, or swim out into the sea and not return?
26 posted on 12/05/2002 9:52:47 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: dennisw; Yehuda

They say it's supposed to be a rocket, but this looks more like a bad case of envy to me.

27 posted on 12/05/2002 9:54:46 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Okay -- the Settlement areas can be a "sore point" -- even some Israeli's agree that settlements should be abandoned -- but there are problems -- Just where do the people who live there go ? Is the Palestinian claim of "right of return" going to be imposed ? Who has a legitimate claim to the areas -- since some were abandoned by Arabs/Palestinians in the wake of a war that THEY started -- do they really have the right to expect them back (does Mexico have a legitimate claim to areas of the Southwest ? What about Native American lands ? Land that was taken from Germany in World War I & II ?) Are there important Jewish religious and historical sites in these areas -- would they be "respected" by Palestinians or bulldozed and re-claimed as Muslim "Holy Sites"? Palestinian self-policing has been a disaster, who would be in control in these areas -- I could go on and on....remember Palestinians claim that ALL of Israel belons to them (look at their official maps)
29 posted on 12/05/2002 9:55:39 AM PST by twyn1
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To: PeopleKillPeople
While some Palestinians do want to push the Jews into the sea as they say, most do not. Once a legitimate, functioning Palestine is created, the rest of the Palestinians will simply put a stop to Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

Do you also believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy, or are you just smoking crack?

31 posted on 12/05/2002 9:59:00 AM PST by Alouette
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To: PeopleKillPeople
There was just pockets of land with no connection to the future state of Palestine.

There will never be a Palestine State on Israeli land.

Who cares what the birth rate is. The pallies use their children as bombs.

Israel on the other hand loves it's children. You tell me who is going to win this little war. The animals that kill their offspring or the parents that protect their children from harm.

The bottom line is the Palestinians kill their own kids.

Let them breed like rabbits, their already dead.

32 posted on 12/05/2002 9:59:54 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Also I am not apologizing for the killing of innocents. That is sick. But its not like it hasnt happened in every single war

Had to reply to this separately -- you are apologizing -- you add the dreaded "but" word and then say that innocents are killed in every war -- we MUST make a very important distinction -- the Palestinians are DELIBERATELY targeting civilians -- they go after women and children, old people, targeting parties, shopping areas, restaurants, buses, and gathering areas outside of temples -- they rarely attack legitimate military sites or declare an open "war" because they know they'll be wiped out -- terrorism is ugly and cruel -- it is never justified

33 posted on 12/05/2002 10:00:53 AM PST by twyn1
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To: PeopleKillPeople
While some Palestinians do want to push the Jews into the sea as they say, most do not. Once a legitimate, functioning Palestine is created, the rest of the Palestinians will simply put a stop to Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

Why don't they put a stop to it now?

The Palestinian police was set up and armed(by Israel and the US) to stop terror.

Worked real well didn't it?

35 posted on 12/05/2002 10:03:16 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
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To: PeopleKillPeople
And meanwhile, somewhere right now a Palestinian teenager who has seen nothing but violence and poverty his whole life, is strapping a bomb to his chest and is going to blow up some school children.

And this is exactly why the Palestinian birth rate means nothing.

Their babies are killing themselves.

Dead people don't breed.

36 posted on 12/05/2002 10:05:27 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
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To: PeopleKillPeople
While some Palestinians do want to push the Jews into the sea as they say, most do not

And we know this because......?

37 posted on 12/05/2002 10:05:46 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: PeopleKillPeople
I hear what you are saying, but I don;t think it is possible to mix oil and water. The long term solution is war... which is what we are actually watching be waged whether we want to admit or not. That is man's nature. Unfortunately, it appears more prevalent in the arab bloodlines for some reason.

The destruction of Israel is still the Arabs end goal. All this conjecture about what and if re: arab-israelis eventually becoming the majority and giving away the farm to the palies is ludicrous as well as delusional. If it happens, the Jews may as well sign their deeds over now and save their blood and families. But I don;t see that happening.
38 posted on 12/05/2002 10:06:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Basically, Israel has one chance to survive. Their problem is just like ours only a little more clearly defined and a bit further along.

They must create a clearly defined and defendable border and push all the unfriendlies outside. Otherwise they are all dead. Period.

Of course, I could be wrong about the religon of peace and mercy.

Sure.
39 posted on 12/05/2002 10:07:36 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: PeopleKillPeople
When I say "bulldoze", I mean to push back, not to actually bulldoze/smash/run-over/kill. Bulldoze, as in push the pali's back across the Jordan river. Certainly, the American people should never sit idly by and watch or condone genocide. Removing/relocating/kicking out a hostile refugee nation from within their own borders is certainly well within their rights, regardless of what any other nation thinks. If Israel's own citizens don't support this, well, the short answer is that they'll get what they settle for, or with.

Hat-Trick

41 posted on 12/05/2002 10:08:29 AM PST by Hat-Trick
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Sorry but the "poor Palestinian teenager" excuse does not fly with me -- they have NO hope because of their own stubborn leaders, who WANT them to remain in poverty and despair -- and they want the to HATE Israel with all their heart -- meanwhile Arafat has his wife and daughter safely tucked into a luxurious apartment in Paris and socks away millions of dollars flowing into his coffers

Palestinians are where they are because of their own corrupt leadership, both political and religious -- Why haven't other Arab lands allowed refugees into their countries ? What about Jordan, wasn't part of it's land alotted to Palestinians ? Why are the Palestinian "camps" still ghettos after all of the money sent there (much from the U.S.) for infrastructure improvements ? -- What kind of parent would be proud to send their child out to blow themselves into pieces (and hopefully get lots of them Jews too)? The Palestinian society may be hopeless, sick and twisted -- but the fault does not lie with the Israeli people

42 posted on 12/05/2002 10:12:13 AM PST by twyn1
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To: PeopleKillPeople
You don;t like the current reality,huh? It pains you to see the turmoil "extended" when the Israelis whack their enemies who fight like cowards and hide behind old women and children.. Reality sucks, innocent bystanders die. Does Yasser care or Hamas or Hezbollah or Islamic Jihad?
43 posted on 12/05/2002 10:12:53 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: PeopleKillPeople
If you can't see the difference between intentional blowing up a bus full of kids, precisely because they are helpless kids, and taking a chance on hurting innocents to eliminate a murderous monster, there's nothing to discuss.
And anyone riding with the pallie murderers is by definition an accomplice and not innocent.
44 posted on 12/05/2002 10:13:16 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Once a legitimate, functioning Palestine is created, the rest of the Palestinians will simply put a stop to Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Why? Because they will have something to lose. Right now they have everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

Yeah. Sure. And you'd also like me to belive that Islam is a religion of peace. Sorry, but this fight has been going on since Jacob and Ishmael, and creating a nation state of Palestine in the middle of the ground that God carved out for Israel isn't gonna stop it.

47 posted on 12/05/2002 10:16:03 AM PST by Hat-Trick
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To: PeopleKillPeople
Create a nice little country?

Bwahahahahahaa!
48 posted on 12/05/2002 10:16:14 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: PeopleKillPeople
we??? Also, we know that most Palestinians do not want to destroy Israel because we ask them.

By that, you mean the liberally biased media types? or you got a frog in your pocket?
49 posted on 12/05/2002 10:16:41 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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