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Frank advises Al Gore to stay out of Kerry's way
Boston Herald ^ | Andrew Miga

Posted on 12/05/2002 1:50:30 PM PST by BuddhaBoy

WASHINGTON - U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, voicing strong support for U.S. Sen. John Kerry's presidential ambitions, yesterday urged former Vice President Al Gore to stay out of the 2004 White House race

"Gore would lose," Frank said. "I don't think he should run ... His negatives are too high."

As Kerry officially created his presidential exploratory committee, Frank, D-Newton, said Gore lacks the political popularity to topple President Bush - who is riding a wave of favorability as he pursues the war on terrorism.

Frank stressed he wasn't blaming Gore, but simply recognizing a political reality Democrats must confront.

"Gore was the leading opponent of Bush - and then 9/11 happened," Frank said, recalling the terror attacks on New York and the Pentagon. "That made Bush a popular president. Al's been wounded. It's unfair and it's not his fault, but it's reality."

Gore, who lost to Bush in the controversial 2000 presidential contest, has thrust himself into the public spotlight recently with a series of high-profile media appearances as he mulls a rematch.

The former vice president has said he will decide by early next year whether he will run again. Most analysts believe he would become the instant Democratic front-runner.

Kerry, meanwhile, formally launched his presidential exploratory committee yesterday, filing a statement of candidacy with the Federal Election Commission. Kerry will transfer all of the $3.1 million in his Senate account to his new committtee, John Kerry for President Inc.

Frank, while cautioning that it is far too early to declare any favorites in the 2004 contest, cast Kerry as the "strongest" Democrat for 2004.

Asked if he would actively support Kerry's candidacy, Frank replied: "I'm inclined to do that right now. At this point, he's the one with the best chance of winning."

Kerry's background as a Vietnam War combat hero and as a prosecutor would make it hard for right-wing Republicans to brand the junior senator as too "soft" for the White House.

"This is a guy who combines combat experience and heroism with a record as a tough prosecutor," said Frank. "As you begin to play that out, Republicans can't go after him as weak on national security issues ... It will just fall flat against Kerry.

"As Kerry has said, he's killed people and he's put people in prison. So it's tough for Republicans to say he's too soft somehow to be president. He is a very strong candidate."

Frank also noted that a recent profile in The New Yorker about Kerry, by "Primary Colors" author Joe Klein, gave the senator's candidacy a lift among political insiders and the media who track the campaign at this early juncture.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fwank; gore; idiots; losers
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Ooooh, he's killed people, so he should be Pres. Oh man, it is going to be a fun two years.
1 posted on 12/05/2002 1:50:30 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
You know it... by the way, pass the ketchup!
2 posted on 12/05/2002 1:54:26 PM PST by RightResponse
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To: BuddhaBoy
Wow! Getting b*tchslapped by a poof. That's gotta be humiliating.
3 posted on 12/05/2002 1:55:51 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: BuddhaBoy
It speaks volumes about the Democratic Party that Barney Frank is the "mouth"piece for their party...this guy is the biggest deviant going..
4 posted on 12/05/2002 1:56:35 PM PST by Fedupwithit
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To: BuddhaBoy
How about a Kerry / Frank ticket?
5 posted on 12/05/2002 1:56:39 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Paul Atreides
In spite of all the advice, Gore was always wearing the wrong colors for Barney!
6 posted on 12/05/2002 1:57:42 PM PST by RightResponse
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Wow! Getting b*tchslapped by a poof. That's gotta be humiliating.

LOL!

I'll bet Tipper is trying to coax Al from under the bed at this very moment.

7 posted on 12/05/2002 1:58:21 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
Watch out for Kerry.
8 posted on 12/05/2002 1:59:31 PM PST by what's up
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To: BuddhaBoy
Does anyone know about his actions in Vietnam? I know these articles like to toss around the phrase 'combat hero' when covering one of their boys, but what did he really do? All I've heard about his record is that he gave back his medals saying he was ashamed of them but wouldn't admit to it in interviews. I'm curious to know what he did in 'nam if anyone knows.
9 posted on 12/05/2002 2:00:04 PM PST by glocker23
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To: what's up
LOL! Will anyone be able to tell the difference? One is just as boring and meandering as the other.
10 posted on 12/05/2002 2:01:11 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Seems to me that JFK has no sense of humor.. what a dour look on his face all the time.
11 posted on 12/05/2002 2:02:35 PM PST by RightResponse
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To: BuddhaBoy
"Gore would lose," Frank said. "I don't think he should run ... His negatives are too high."

Gad, you gotta admire such political savvy and brilliance. No one else could have figured this out.

BTW, what are Kerry's popularity figures? Or should I say....name recognition figures?

12 posted on 12/05/2002 2:03:14 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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"Gore would lose," Frank said."

LOL. Kerry would/will lose too. What's the point? Horseface *might* be able to carry his own state, if he's lucky.

13 posted on 12/05/2002 2:03:14 PM PST by tuna_battle
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To: BuddhaBoy
Both Massachusetts Senators JOHN KERRY and TED KENNEDY voted "NO"
for the flag-protection amendment SJR 14 !!!

14 posted on 12/05/2002 2:03:17 PM PST by WhatNot
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To: BuddhaBoy
Kerry has better hair than Gore. Franks knows this.
15 posted on 12/05/2002 2:03:58 PM PST by malakhi
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To: tuna_battle
Horseface.. that's it!
16 posted on 12/05/2002 2:04:31 PM PST by RightResponse
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To: RightResponse
What is funny is his office claiming that his haircut cost only $75 (only!). From what I have seen, the end product doesn't reflect well on the stylist.
17 posted on 12/05/2002 2:04:49 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
$25 for the cut, and then $50 for stroking the ego!!
18 posted on 12/05/2002 2:06:08 PM PST by RightResponse
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To: BuddhaBoy

19 posted on 12/05/2002 2:06:55 PM PST by paul in cape
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To: plain talk
"How about a Kerry / Frank ticket? "

LOL!!!!
20 posted on 12/05/2002 2:09:08 PM PST by bluewater bird
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To: RightResponse

21 posted on 12/05/2002 2:09:33 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: BuddhaBoy
"...Republicans can't go after him as weak on national security issues ... It will just fall flat against Kerry."

Wanna bet, Bawney? Kerry is on the far left (lifetime ACU rating = 5). He came back from Vietnam recommending that we cease our efforts to contain the spread of communism in SE Asia, IOW, to just let the commies take over wherever they went. Most recently, he has voted against limited gas and oil exploration, IOW, wants us to stay dependent on foreign sources of energy. He also voted against emergency anti-terrorism spending and thought it would be a great idea to have our servicemen subject to judgment in the International Criminal Court. He's as weak as they come on national security. Personally, I think his presidential "candidacy" is a feint intended to deflect attacks away from the candidate they intend to run, either Hillary or somebody else but not Kerry.

22 posted on 12/05/2002 2:11:42 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: anniegetyourgun
BTW, what are Kerry's popularity figures? Or should I say....name recognition figures?

Exactly. The last sitting U.S. Senator to be elected president was Kennedy (the first was Warren Harding). Governorships are the usual path historically and today. The other successful routes include the vice-presidency and being a successful general in war.

23 posted on 12/05/2002 2:11:49 PM PST by malakhi
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To: BuddhaBoy

Goes to show how stupid they are.

The media will decide who the Democrat "Front Runner" is and they will base their decision on both internal democrat whisperings and poll numbers.

If they think Gore is all they got then they will ram him down every throat they can. If they think someone like Kerry is better for the party and can help them win, they will massacre algor in a second. They hate losers and are known for casting them aside anyway, so it would be easy to justify. Look at Dick Schleperdt.

They will not let algor's personal ambitions harm the socialist cause. Believe it.

The Leftist wind of the media will either anoint algor or crush him before he can do too much damage.

24 posted on 12/05/2002 2:12:21 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: paul in cape
$5 says Kerry's hair is a wig. Anyone see a scalp line at the bottom of it's part?
25 posted on 12/05/2002 2:14:32 PM PST by last_one_standing
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To: anniegetyourgun
Wrong end.
26 posted on 12/05/2002 2:14:34 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: glocker23
"...that he gave back his medals saying he was ashamed of them..."

The man's a liar. Way back when, he gave a speech that was represented as impromptu but was actually written by a professional and carefully rehearsed. During this speech, he tossed his "medals" away for dramatic effect. Trouble is, those were not his medals. They were fakes. His actual medals later turned up on the wall of his office. He's as phony as they come.

27 posted on 12/05/2002 2:17:19 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: BuddhaBoy
Kerry has the skin tone of a chain smoker
28 posted on 12/05/2002 2:20:45 PM PST by MTCJK
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To: what's up
Kerry is a dead duck, as soon as America meets his crazy wife.

Frankestein doesnt have a chance.

29 posted on 12/05/2002 2:21:01 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: glocker23
He actually gave back someone else's medals, not his. It WILL be a campaign issue.
30 posted on 12/05/2002 2:21:54 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: Jhoffa_
The reasons that the Dems want Gore not to run(and I dont think he will) is because he is a savage in the primaries, and will damage the other candidates even if he loses.

Dont forget where the Pubs found Willie Horton, it was Al Gore who first made the charge, and then the Pubbies used it against Dukakis.

They want Gore out, but they also want him to shut the hell up about the rest of the candidates.

31 posted on 12/05/2002 2:24:38 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.asp?CID=N00000245&cycle=2002

John Kerry (D-MA)
Top Contributors

1 FleetBoston Financial $94,944
2 Verizon Communications $66,362
3 Hill, Holliday et al $55,550
4 Mintz, Levin et al $49,000
5 Raytheon Co $41,850
6 Vivendi Universal $36,754
7 Robins, Kaplan et al $35,350
8 State Street Corp $34,700
9 American International Group $34,100
10 AOL Time Warner $33,010
11 Fidelity Investments $32,554
12 AT&T $30,700
13 John Hancock Financial Services $29,150
14 Hale & Dorr $28,700
15 Harvard University $27,050
16 Goldman Sachs $25,000
16 Liberty Mutual Insurance $25,000
18 Verner, Liipfert et al $24,800
19 Sat Inc $24,400
20 Gitto Global Corp $24,000

Current Committee
Assignments:

Commerce, Science, and Transportation

Finance

Foreign Relations

Small Business


32 posted on 12/05/2002 2:26:38 PM PST by malakhi
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As Kerry has said, he's killed people...

Bad argument. So did Clinton. But he was a crappy president...
33 posted on 12/05/2002 2:28:22 PM PST by Bush2000
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The reasons that the Dems want Gore not to run(and I dont think he will) is because he is a savage in the primaries

They're insane if they think that Gore ain't gonna run. Exploratory committee be damned. The boy doesn't know any other kind of life besides the public dole. He'll run.
34 posted on 12/05/2002 2:29:29 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Naw, I dont think he will. I think he wants to try to rehab his image through a lecture series based on his insipid book. He is pointing at 2008, watch.
35 posted on 12/05/2002 2:30:58 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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"As Kerry has said, he's killed people and he's put people in prison. So it's tough for Republicans to say he's too soft somehow to be president. He is a very strong candidate."

I seem to remember that the libs tried to roast Dubya about Texas being the Gurney Journey State.
36 posted on 12/05/2002 2:31:57 PM PST by Xenalyte
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More Kerry vulnerabilities on national security --

    -voted for same sex military training
    -voted for Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty
    -voted to preserve terms of ABM treaty
    -voted to reduce funding and go slow on missile defense program
    -voted to reduce defense appropriations
    -voted to have another round of base closures
    -voted against trade sanctions on communist China for human rights abuses

He's not looking good on national security. And I've only scratched the surface.

37 posted on 12/05/2002 2:33:01 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Bush2000
Im with ya on this. He will run, ....."Damm The Party"
38 posted on 12/05/2002 2:33:21 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: AndrewC
You're right....I meant this:


39 posted on 12/05/2002 2:33:35 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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And then there was that whole giving his Medals back thingy...
40 posted on 12/05/2002 2:34:26 PM PST by cmsgop
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"...also want him to shut the hell up..."

Could be. But if they really wanted him to button his lip, seems they could just threaten to expose him. They must have mountains of incriminating info on him. They could also put out the word to their staunch allies, the liberal media, that coverage of Gore statements and speeches would not be "helpful." None of this has happened. In fact, he's been handed the microphone 24/7.

41 posted on 12/05/2002 2:39:48 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: cmsgop
Right. He's extremely vulnerable outside of Massachusetts. That's why I think his "candidacy" is nothing but a distraction while the dems settle on their actual candidate.
42 posted on 12/05/2002 2:43:14 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Paul Atreides
Wow! Getting b*tchslapped by a poof. That's gotta be humiliating. <---LOL!


43 posted on 12/05/2002 2:50:05 PM PST by Delbert
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Frank threatening somebody?? Is he going to scratch Gore's face or something??

A really impartial and candid press would expose the DemocRATic party for the freakish sideshow of extreme social deviants it has really become.
44 posted on 12/05/2002 2:57:14 PM PST by ZULU
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Frank threatening somebody?? Is he going to scratch Gore's face or something??

LOL. I recall that a few years ago, Barney went through a working-out phase and got pretty pumped up, for him. Maybe he's let that slip away, but the memory lingers.

45 posted on 12/05/2002 3:22:12 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: BuddhaBoy
Any Dem is going to lose - why can't they just admit it??
46 posted on 12/05/2002 11:12:41 PM PST by The Final Harvest
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"Gore would lose," Frank said. "I don't think he should run ... His negatives are too high."

This coming from Barney Frank! It couldn't get any worse for Albert! LOL

47 posted on 12/05/2002 11:33:25 PM PST by jla
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48 posted on 12/07/2002 1:33:41 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Bonaparte
And didn't some of the guys who were actually with him tell one story about what happened, and he told another, but later on, for some reason, the other guys told the same story he did?
49 posted on 12/07/2002 1:36:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Bush2000
I agree. He will run. He cannot stop.
50 posted on 12/07/2002 1:37:16 PM PST by Howlin
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