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Leader of Gay Pride Organization is Charged with Sexual Abuse
KMOV News ^ | 12/5/02 | Robert Townsend

Posted on 12/05/2002 10:02:34 PM PST by Clintons Are White Trash

(KMOV) -- The president of a St. Louis gay and lesbian group has been charged with sexually abusing a 14-year-old boy. Rolf Rathmann, 37, is president of Pride St. Louis. Prosecutors say Rathmann is one of four men suspected of having sex with the same 14-year-old victim.

Rathmann is accused of having the sexual relationship with the boy over a five-month period. St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch says the acts took place at Blue Bird Park in Ellisville.

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1 posted on 12/05/2002 10:02:34 PM PST by Clintons Are White Trash
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
A gay pried what? Did they use a crowbar?
2 posted on 12/05/2002 10:03:35 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
What really caught my attention with this situation is at least this one local station ran the story but it has yet to appear on the news website of our very liberal St. Louis Post Dispatch.
3 posted on 12/05/2002 10:05:36 PM PST by Clintons Are White Trash
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
But protect them ya know! Gays can't help it that they are perverts!
4 posted on 12/05/2002 10:07:23 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Poor kid.
5 posted on 12/05/2002 10:08:40 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
I am considered an etnic racist when I say I'd feel more comfortable with fewer Muslims, because I think too high a percentage of them don't like me and don't speak out against their violent brethren (speaking strictly as an infidel of course).

I am considered a homophobe and am in jeapordy of being accused of hate crimes because of my thoughts about gays and the fact that too large a percent of these people target and abuse minors.

6 posted on 12/05/2002 10:12:11 PM PST by umgud
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I always thought a gay pride was a family of happy lions.
7 posted on 12/05/2002 10:14:59 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Watch them portray the abuser as the victim.
8 posted on 12/05/2002 10:16:07 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
If guilty of the alleged crime, there is nothing wrong with this deranged butt-monkey that can't be fixed by a rope, a small body of water, and a large bag of bricks.
9 posted on 12/05/2002 10:22:42 PM PST by Mulder
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Wouldn't want to "offend" by speaking out. Any ideas on how to turn this around? Department of Ed. gone. MTV gone. Most college profs gone. executive order. Doubt it.
10 posted on 12/05/2002 10:23:41 PM PST by chnsmok
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Poor guy was born that way, and so was his victim. Don't you know that homosexuals get their sexual orientation at, or before age 8?
11 posted on 12/05/2002 10:24:16 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Yea and these diviants say gays do not do more child abuse.

I do not see how you can live a diviant lifestyle and not do diviant behaviour. I see little difference between gay behaviour and child abuse. Neither is natural. Neither has any purpose other than sexual satification.
12 posted on 12/05/2002 10:30:12 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Prosecutors say Rathmann is one of four men suspected of having sex with the same 14-year-old victim.

Ya see, that is the problem - they call the kid a victim. According to them he is not a victim, the law has made him a victim based on age discrimination....


13 posted on 12/05/2002 10:31:44 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: Delphinium
We should all be more tolerant about Rolf Rathmann's sexual preference – no matter how deviant.
14 posted on 12/05/2002 10:34:45 PM PST by Eric Esot
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
The president of a St. Louis gay and lesbian group has been charged with sexually abusing a 14-year-old boy. Rolf Rathmann, 37, is president of Pride St. Louis.

Well I'm just SHOCKED! I know what happened Mr. Rolf and his companions were on their way to a meeting on the evils of driving an suv when they were attacked by the 14year old and forced to perform certain acts on him....well it could of happened that way.

And now back to reality.
15 posted on 12/05/2002 10:37:13 PM PST by Valin
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To: Eric Esot
I hope you know I was being sarcastic. That makes me sick!! I agree with #9.
16 posted on 12/05/2002 10:38:47 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Eric Esot
I'm sorry - I didn’t realize that my post contained a link to his email address. Well, at least I did’nt post his alternative email address.
17 posted on 12/05/2002 10:41:15 PM PST by Eric Esot
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
What, a member of a group that is defined by its sexuality committing a sex crime? The horror of it!

Is sexuality a defining human element? Is it a basis for identification? Is it a right?

I just want to know if these people are willing to take their ideology to its conclusion. They define themselves by it, and now, we see, piece by piece, they act on it, too. Good for them! Let them break the law until the law breaks them.

Americans have the good sense to allow the ridiculous alone until the ridiculous touches their own lives. I don't imagine that the child's parents are feeling too good about gay rights round-a-bout now.
18 posted on 12/05/2002 10:41:17 PM PST by nicollo
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To: Eric Esot
I almost emailed him, but I am afraid they would send me a virus. This kind of stuff brings out the mean redhead in me.
19 posted on 12/05/2002 10:42:01 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Eric Esot
He can't even get a Shakespeare quote right. (It's a Barbra Streisand thang!)

20 posted on 12/05/2002 10:42:45 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: Delphinium
Of course - I was being sarcastic right back at ya!
21 posted on 12/05/2002 10:42:46 PM PST by Eric Esot
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To: Eric Esot
I have been taken wrong many times.
22 posted on 12/05/2002 10:45:27 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Paul Atreides
It's just something that 'comes between friends'...bleck!

23 posted on 12/05/2002 10:59:02 PM PST by 45semi
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
I wouldn't be surprised if gay activists claim that the 14 year old boy "deserved it" and "had it coming"
24 posted on 12/05/2002 10:59:18 PM PST by arielb
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Simply unacceptable...he should be shot.
26 posted on 12/05/2002 11:13:36 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Mulder
Or an on/off switch.
27 posted on 12/06/2002 12:07:55 AM PST by SoDak
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
They'll need to have a new march and demonstration to increase their pride in this.
28 posted on 12/06/2002 12:47:36 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
Good comment.
29 posted on 12/06/2002 1:31:43 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: Clintons Are White Trash; Paul Atreides
four men suspected of having sex with the same 14-year-old victim.

A queertet.

30 posted on 12/06/2002 1:46:35 AM PST by let freedom sing
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To: Paul Atreides
"...I always thought a gay pride was a family of happy lions..."

I used to think that too, until I heard the word 'gay' misused by faggots so many times that the new meaning of the word stuck.

Now it conjures up an image of a group of mincing, rampantly queer lions, cruising the Serengeti, looking for some hot jungle action.

31 posted on 12/06/2002 3:08:36 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Mulder
"...If guilty of the alleged crime, there is nothing wrong with this deranged butt-monkey that can't be fixed by a rope, a small body of water, and a large bag of bricks..."

Don't underestimate the entertainment value offered by a very small bag of bricks in situations like this...

32 posted on 12/06/2002 3:10:52 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Delphinium
His victim must have been homosexual too. After all, we hear that homosexuals aren't attracted to heterosexual males. That is why we have nothing to worry about in locker rooms and common showers.
33 posted on 12/06/2002 3:43:33 AM PST by weegee
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
The so called "Mainstream Media" is to blame for this as well as racial problems. They print only lies and half truths when it comes to crimes of sex and race. They have a warped sense of truth and Americans are beginning to see them for what they are,liberal race and sex baiters who along with trial lawyers have taken America down a path of destruction . A VAST LEFT WING CONSPIRACY!
34 posted on 12/06/2002 3:49:52 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
I can't see the "Full Article" unless I sign up for spam to be delivered to my mailbox. How about posting the whole article. It won't be available at all when someone wants to pull it from the FR archives later.

35 posted on 12/06/2002 4:06:15 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
But it was his right to destroy the right of a kid and gain privileges, starting crap and all.
36 posted on 12/06/2002 4:13:41 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
Not all gays go to parks and molest boys! I'm sick of your stereotyping them this way!

In fact ,many are caring individuals that adopt these young men, and molest them at home. There I said it.

37 posted on 12/06/2002 4:30:43 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: lavaroise
Hey, good to see you lavaroise.
38 posted on 12/06/2002 4:32:15 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Delphinium
But, of course, if they were 'born that way', then God would have mentioned them in book of Genesis as part of the "many genders" He created. And doctors would announce in the delivery room - 'look, it's a bouncing baby homosexual'.... But then, we know that "male and female, He created them"....and everything after that is a choice of the heart.

Now, someone will come along and argue that 'orientation' is inborn, even if behaviors are chosen. But then, since we are thinking animals, even 'oreintation' is a fabrication of the mind. A pyromanic is 'oriented' to setting fires. Even if he doesn't act on his 'orientation'....he is nevertheless not mentally healthy. However, we have (as a society) decided that this particular deviation (and adult-child sex is the next one to fall) is not mental. One would have to have scientific evidence that it is genetic to draw such a conclusion. And, of course, there is none. Just as there is no gene for pyromania.

Homosexuality as 'normal' is nothing more than a societal compromise (defining deviancy downward) since there is no science to it.

39 posted on 12/06/2002 4:40:49 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
WEB PERV NABBED WITH BOY By KIERAN CROWLEY and BILL HOFFMANN

NY POST 12/5/2002 HOLLEMAN: Predawn tryst in SUV. December 5, 2002 -- A perverted Long Island DJ chatted up a 15-year-old boy on the Internet and lured him to a sleazy sex tryst in a deserted parking lot, police said yesterday.

In what's every parent's nightmare, the boy had quietly slipped out of his house in Lindenhurst without his mom or dad knowing a thing.

His mother learned of her son's illicit meeting with a registered sex offender only when the cops delivered him back to her front door.

Kenneth Holleman, 44, of Massapequa Park - a self-employed DJ known for his clever mixing of nightclub hits - was charged with sodomy and endangering the welfare of a minor.

Detective Lt. James Maher said Holleman met his victim in an online chat room early Sunday.

After a suggestive talk, Holleman arranged to pick up the youth a few blocks from his residence.

Once the boy got into Holleman's vehicle, they drove to an empty parking lot in Copiague, where the abuse occurred, Maher said.

Two Suffolk cops passing by became suspicious of the lone SUV because the store next to it was closed and it was 4:45 a.m.

They approached the car and quizzed the pair, but both insisted nothing was going on.

After police drove the boy back to his parents' home, they discovered Holleman had prior arrests for possession of kiddie porn and was a registered sex offender.

They quickly reinterviewed the teen and learned he and Holleman allegedly had engaged in sexual activities.

Holleman was being held in lieu $1 million bail last night.

Prosecutors say he has three arrests in Nassau County for possessing kiddie porn - and pleaded guilty to one of them in July 2001 for a sentence of five years' probation and agreement to register as a sex offender.

"He's a pedophile. It was alert police work by the uniformed officers," said Maher. "The minor snuck out of his house. His mother was not aware he was out."

Holleman's lawyer, Thomas Liotti, said the arrest was a part of a sting and insisted his client hadn't touched the boy.

"I think he was possibly set up," Liotti said, adding that Holleman had worked numerous law-enforcement parties on Long Island over the years and was well-liked by cops and prosecutors.

Holleman, a DJ since 1980, has produced several successful disco mixes and is mentioned on rocker Cyndi Lauper's official Web site. He has been an organizer of the Long Island Gay Pride Parade.

Those Gay Pried organizers sure are busy! V's wife.

40 posted on 12/06/2002 4:44:40 AM PST by ventana
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
I posted these thoughts yesterday on another topic, but it sure fits better here!!!!

It is amazing to me that seemingly intelligent people consider homosexuals as normal.
It seems to me that they are ignorant if they can't find the proper use for their sex organs (Procreation and recreation; Not perversion, and deviation)!
The AIDS epidemic is nature's answer to homosexuality. It's a shame that this perversion is also shared bi-sexually, though, because that easily spreads the disease!
God may have let it loose, but it is more than likely just nature's response to perversion. Nature is trying to purge them! (Of course, thanks to congress, AIDS is treated with hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars PER CASE). they sure aren't doing that "for the children"!
And has been shown that homosexual men consistently try to find the youngest, freshest little boys they can get. That is just one of their faults as a constituency. They do abnormal things, but expect us to accept their perversions.
these people have shown a weakness. they cannot make it with the other sex for some reason, so they CHOOSE to get pleasured ANY WAY THEY CAN GET IT! (ever hear about gerbils???)
To the homosexual, I would say "go back into the closet, and stay away from the other little boys and girls. and from me and my family, too! I will pray for you!
41 posted on 12/06/2002 4:50:03 AM PST by pageonetoo
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ooohhhh, my GAWD! I can't BELIEVE you went THERE!
(as in: old joke: In Greece, how do they separate the men from the boys? With a crowbar)
42 posted on 12/06/2002 4:50:28 AM PST by demosthenes the elder
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
can't see whole story at source unless I register. do me a solid and post the whole thing, ok?
44 posted on 12/06/2002 4:53:44 AM PST by demosthenes the elder
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Watch them portray the abuser as the victim

More likely they'll point out all the heterosexual men who rape little girls, or point to Catholic Priests .... etc. All to justify their immoral behavior.

45 posted on 12/06/2002 4:54:02 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: demosthenes the elder
Sorry! Here is the entire article.

Leader of gay pride organization is charged with sexual abuse
12/05/2002

Reporter: Robert Townsend, News 4


(KMOV) -- The president of a St. Louis gay and lesbian group has been charged with sexually abusing a 14-year-old boy. Rolf Rathmann, 37, is president of Pride St. Louis. Prosecutors say Rathmann is one of four men suspected of having sex with the same 14-year-old victim.


Rathmann is accused of having the sexual relationship with the boy over a five-month period. St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch says the acts took place at Blue Bird Park in Ellisville.


McCulloch says the young victim is the same boy 50-year-old William Sandefur is charged with sodomizing last year when the victim was 13 years old at that time. Prosecutors charged Sandefur Wednesday.


Rathmann is charged with eight counts of second-degree statutory sodomy. Prosecutors are seeking a warrant for his arrest.


Friday, McCulloch says his office will also seek charges against two more local men accused of sexually molesting the same boy.




46 posted on 12/06/2002 6:36:45 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash
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I suppose he will be applying to the Boy Scouts for a job next?
47 posted on 12/06/2002 6:37:22 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
thanks.
48 posted on 12/06/2002 6:55:47 AM PST by demosthenes the elder
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To: Eric Esot
Board of Directors:

President

Of all the members of the board, he was the only one with enough "pride" to show his picture. All others are MIA!

Rolf E. Rathmann

President@pridesaintlouis.com
Real Job: Flight Attendant
Area in St. Louis: S. City / Dutch Town
How long in St. Louis: Since 1989
How long with Pride St. Louis: Since 1997
Former duties with Pride: Stage Manager and Director of Public Relations
Most Admires: Maya Angelou
Quote: "All the world's a stage, and it's people merely its players" William Shakespeare

49 posted on 12/06/2002 7:04:45 AM PST by N. Theknow
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
They were in a Gay Predator training seminar on how to handle young Boy Scouts, Altar Boys or students in public schools.

The left wing maggots who control the fishwraps in the St Louis area will not publish this story.

A homosexual male is to be considered a potential sexual predator until proven otherwise. I know of no way to prove that they aren't. So just keep them out of teaching, the Boy Scouts, any male mentoring program and any church activity/function where they might be alone with young boys and might be a predator.
50 posted on 12/06/2002 7:04:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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