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Gore in Funding Flap in Red China: Ambassador Holbrooke Defends Ex-V.P.
NY SUN ^
| 12/6/02
| TIMOTHY STARKS
Posted on 12/06/2002 4:43:27 AM PST by Liz
WASHINGTON - Just as Vice President Gore is reappearing on the American political scene, a recent trip to Asia is prompting questions about a fund-raising flap like the ones that followed him after the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign. Mr. Gore visited Hong Kong and Shenzhen, China, last month for a forum focused on the nations entry into the World Trade Organization. Conference participants had the opportunity to have their photos taken with Mr. Gore in exchange for cash, the South China Morning Post reported.
The sponsor of the event at the top of the list on the forum Web site, the China Development Institute, operates under the approval of the communist Chinese government. Also while abroad, Mr. Gore attended an Asia Society Hong Kong event hosted by former Enron director Ronnie Chan Chi-chung.
The report evokes memories for some of the 1996 Buddhist Temple fundraising scandal in Los Angeles, not to mention the allegations of money funneled to the Democratic Party by the Chinese government. Mr. Gore has said he will soon announce whether he intends to run for president again in 2004.
If this is true, its a pretty severe lapse in judgment, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, Dan Ronayne, said when contacted by The New York Sun. Its mildly shocking that hed put himself in a position for this kind of potential embarrassment.
The Gore camp insists the former vice president and 2000 presidential candidate has done nothing wrong, and disputes the accuracy of the report.
A former American ambassador to the United Nations, Richard Holbrooke, also came to Mr. Gores defense.
We were not paid in any way for any photographs, a spokesman for Mr. Gore, Jano Cabrera, said.
Were aware of no one who paid to have photos taken with Mr. Gore. If they did, they did so without our permission.
The South China Morning Post did not specify who had offered the pictures-for-cash deal to forum participants. It listed the price as 50,000 yuan about $6,000 or 100,000 yuan for conference sponsorship packages.
Mr. Cabrera said the event was a BusinessWeek forum, in conjunction with another conference sponsor, DnmStrategies.
It was not, as alleged by the vice-chairman in Hong Kong of Republicans Abroad, hosted by a communist think tank that is, the China Development Institute.
But on that point, the spokesman for Mr. Gore and a spokeswoman for Business Week do not agree.
The forum was not put on by BusinessWeek. The primary sponsor and organizer was the China Development Institute, the spokeswoman, Nancy Sheed, said.
We were there as a sponsor, in the form of signs and logos. We did not pay for any of the speakers or participants to be there.
Mr. Cabrera said the Washington Speakers Bureau paid Mr. Gore for his appearance, but would not disclose the amount.
To prove his point, he gave the Sun a contract regarding the appearance that lists the client as DnmStrategies For Service to BusinessWeek.
The South China Morning Post quoted an unnamed Asia Society source as saying that Mr. Chan, the former Enron director, hosted the Asia Society meeting.
The chief executive of DnmStrategies, Sam Moon, told the paper Mr. Gore was aware of who Mr. Chan was because I told him before we went into it [the lunch.]
Mr. Cabrera said Mr. Gore had no advance knowledge of who Mr. Chan was; he said it was as innocent as giving a speech to an audience that contained an Enron executive.
Throughout his trip, Mr. Gore brought the message of open trade and human rights, Mr. Cabrera said.
Mr. Gore got involved when Mr. Holbrooke invited him to the meet with the Asia Society, Mr. Cabrera said.
We are grateful that Vice President Gore took the time to speak to the Asia Society Hong Kong. The Asia Society is the leading non profit, non-governmental organization in the United States concerned with Asia, and we are proud that Ronnie Chan is a Member of the Board and the leader of our activities in Hong Kong, Mr. Holbrooke said in a statement.
To suggest that Vice President Gores activities in Hong Kong was somehow improper because he visited China during his trip as has every president since Richard Nixon is ridiculous and smacks of old school McCarthyism.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: albertgoreii; albertgorejunior; algore; algoreisnotmyprez; communists; stillneedsajob
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And he didn't know he was going to a Buddhist temple to fund-raise either. Ah, the innocence of politicians.
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posted on
12/06/2002 4:43:27 AM PST
by
Liz
To: Liz
To: Liz
It's like Groundhog Day.
To: Liz
I'm sure they thought that they were ordering the egg-drop soup. The picture was a throw-in.
To: Liz
To prove his point, he gave the Sun a contract regarding the appearance that lists the client as DnmStrategies For Service to BusinessWeek. A misprint in the contract. That would be "DimStrategies". English is no longer the official language in Hong Kong.
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posted on
12/06/2002 4:49:15 AM PST
by
ctonious
To: Liz
If this is true, its a pretty severe lapse in judgment, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, Dan Ronayne, said when contacted by The New York Sun. Its mildly shocking that hed put himself in a position for this kind of potential embarrassment. What a great line that last one! It's only mildly shocking because we're so used to Gore embarrassing himself! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA......
To: chance33_98
We were not paid in any way for any photographs, a spokesman for Mr. Gore, Jano Cabrera, said. I'd like to know if there is any relationship between the convicted drug dealer and contributor to the Dims Jorge Cabrera and this spokesman Jano Cabrera. Would anybody be surprised if there was?
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posted on
12/06/2002 4:59:31 AM PST
by
capydick
To: anniegetyourgun
I checked the Memphis Commie Appeaser, the Nashville Bredesean, the Knox(ville) News Sentinel and they had NARY a word on Algorebatross' STEALTH visit to China.
IF he had nothing to hide he would have announced he was going and why he was going.
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posted on
12/06/2002 5:00:22 AM PST
by
GailA
To: GailA
Oddly enough, I didn't see this listed on his book tour itinerary either.....
To: anniegetyourgun
As Anne Coulter points out in her great book, Slander, the dems are the one's perennially calling Pubbies dumb, dumb, dumb. Well, this guy has got to be the dumbest politician out there. The advantage the Dem dummies have is that their brethren in the press cover for them 25/7. Now that Drudge and Fox are on the loose, that aint so easy anymore. V's wife.
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posted on
12/06/2002 5:04:22 AM PST
by
ventana
To: ventana
Here's to hoping the lib/dems keep 'misunderestimating' conservatives and conservatism!
To: Liz
Ah, the innocence of politicians. lol.......and bump!
To: Liz
...The Gore camp insists the former vice president and 2000 presidential candidate has done nothing wrong, and disputes the accuracy of the report... No controlling legal authority...
No controlling legal authority...
No controlling legal authority...
No controlling legal authority...
To: Liz
You have to put some coins in the monkey's cup to see it dance.....
To: Liz
Certainly was bad judgement for him to call the VRWC "fifth columnists" when he took money from a foreign power aimed at bringing this country down.
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posted on
12/06/2002 5:27:13 AM PST
by
weegee
To: Liz
Conference participants had the opportunity to have their photos taken with Mr. Gore in exchange for cash, the South China Morning Post reported.Everytime I think they hit a new low.....
To: Liz
I wonder whether Senator John Kerry's office and Terry McAwful are reponsible for this story.
To: Liz
Conference participants had the opportunity to have their photos taken with Mr. Gore in exchange for cash, the South China Morning Post reported.Did they have their pictures taken with Gore or with a cardboard cut-out of Gore?
And how could anybody tell the difference?
Home Sweet Home
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posted on
12/06/2002 6:03:24 AM PST
by
Dallas
To: cardinal4
Does Clinton know about this ?
To: billorites
Al wakes up everyday and sticks his hand out for cash. When communists are a leading source of campaign money it tells you a little about the candidate. The only difference between Bill Murray and Gore is that Murry eventually changed.
To: PBRSTREETGANG
The real Gore is thicker.
To: wideawake
You're right, Gore is pretty thick.
To: Liz
No one should doubt that the Democrat Party has its own DNC Politburo, preparing.
To: NautiNurse
Wouldn't rule it out. Dim Dems love internecine warfare.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:27:23 AM PST
by
Liz
To: Oldeconomybuyer
D'ja hear? Gore's next trip is on "de Nile."
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:29:05 AM PST
by
Liz
To: Liz
Clinton did the same thing not too long ago either.
This illegal fund raising and Clinton/Gore-Red China axis isn't over and should be watched.
To: Dallas
Amazing how empty the Wall is! I've been to that exact spot (at Badaling, outside of Beijing), and even in December when it was freezing the Wall was crawling with tourists. (The picture in my office shows several dozen people on that stretch.)
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:41:03 AM PST
by
Eala
To: Eala; Dallas
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:43:41 AM PST
by
Eala
To: Liz
We are grateful that Vice President Gore took the time to speak to the Asia Society Hong Kong." Mr. Holbrooke said in a statement "He knows so much more about communism than the Chinese, it was very informative."
To: Liz
To: bonesmccoy
Fund-raiser? What fuund-raiser algore said, stuffing plenty yen into his pocket.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:53:57 AM PST
by
Liz
To: tallhappy
You got that right.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:55:44 AM PST
by
Liz
To: Eala
Amazing how empty the Wall isAre you possibly thinking of "photoshop"???
Note that Gore is in his Naomi Alpha male shirtsleeves, and Tipper is bundled up, in late November, in China. Must be that the Goron has his own personal global warming kit surrounding him.
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posted on
12/06/2002 8:16:04 AM PST
by
aShepard
To: aShepard
Are you possibly thinking of "photoshop"??? No, actually, I'm thinking "security." How everybody else that was going to see the Wall at that time didn't get to because Gore wanted a photo-op there. (Years ago we were showing a visitor around the area; we were run out of the Boeing Museum of Flight and weren't able to go to the Butchart Gardens because some former president wanted to go at the same time.)
Note that Gore is in his Naomi Alpha male shirtsleeves, and Tipper is bundled up, in late November, in China.
Good catch. It is pretty chilly that time of year there; around freezing.
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posted on
12/06/2002 8:37:39 AM PST
by
Eala
To: Liz
I find absolutely nothing wrong with posing for photos for cash. Gore is a private citizen and not a govt. official. A former pres. or vp can do anything he wants in my book. The Japanese paid Reagan a million dollars for a short speech and appearance AFTER he left office. During the 2002 campaign, Bush raised money for other candidates with photo ops (unlike Clinton, outside the white house) around the country if you coughed up 10 to 20 thousand dollars. A photo with Cheaney cost only 2k, a photo with Doro (W's sister) cost only 500 dollars. An acquaintance of mine coughed up 50 grand to get his and his wife's picture taken with Clinton in the White House and also got a small piece of regulatory "undersight" or "overlooking" that was probably worth about half a million dollars. That was wrong, but a former vp should be allowed to do anything legal and this is 100% legal.
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posted on
12/06/2002 8:43:27 AM PST
by
staytrue
To: staytrue
Disagree. Gore is a former VP who promotes himself as a future presidential candidate. Big difference.
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posted on
12/06/2002 8:46:30 AM PST
by
Liz
To: Liz
He is not a candidate yet. I may sell Chinese shoes for a living, does this mean I can't run for office 2 years from now. I think 20k for a photo with Bush is worse than what Gore did. The Buddist temple was illegal and wrong because he was a sitting VP. Gore should be in a jail cell beside Maria Hsia for this. But the incident here is completely ok.
Regarding my acquaintance getting some "overlooking". I think the "overlooking" was the right thing in his case even if he did not cough up the 50k. But, Clinton is still a scumbag.
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:08:24 AM PST
by
staytrue
To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Does Clinton know about this ?"
He will get his standard 10% kickback on the photo fees.
To: Liz
To suggest that Vice President Gores activities in Hong Kong was somehow improper because he visited China during his trip as has every president since Richard Nixon is ridiculous and smacks of old school McCarthyism.
Now he's an ex-president. The fantasies keep getting wilder in Algoreland. And I suppose the "old school" McCarthyism is to distinguish it from the new communist PC variety.
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:20:33 AM PST
by
johnb838
To: Eala
This pic certainly shoots your alibi all to hell.....LOL
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:25:53 AM PST
by
Dallas
To: Dallas
Yes it does. But it's no big secret anyway; hasn't been for a long time.
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:40:29 AM PST
by
Eala
To: johnb838
Algore lives in "Wannabe Land." He introduces himself as the man who would have been president or something equally idiotic. Of course, he knows if the Dem vote fraud operated like it did when the Clintons got elected he woulda been prez.
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posted on
12/06/2002 10:14:41 AM PST
by
Liz
To: staytrue
I agree. If anyone is stupid enough to pay me $20k (heck I'll take $1k) to have a photograph with me, I'm willing to take their money.
It ain't illegal to accept money from fools. Heck even conventional American/Christian morality codes as I understand them say its okay.
To take money from CHICOMS is all the better as it means less money in their hands to do bad things.
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posted on
12/06/2002 10:49:34 AM PST
by
Jake0001
To: Jake0001
That's ridiculous.
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posted on
12/06/2002 11:02:30 AM PST
by
johnb838
To: Eric in the Ozarks; ALOHA RONNIE
Does Clinton know about this ?Yeah, Al's moving in our Bill and Hillary's turf!! Darn...they were going to hit up the Commies for some cash for the 2004 campaign and AL beat them to it!
Hillary's gonna be mad!
To: tallhappy; ALOHA RONNIE
"This illegal fund raising and Clinton/Gore-Red China axis isn't over and should be watched."
Watched by Judicial Watch! I'm with you, tallhappy!
Christmas time is a good time to send off one last tax-deductible donation to
http://www.judicialwatch.org/
Because the "Clinton/Gore-Red China axis" isn't over yet!!!
To: Jake0001; ALOHA RONNIE; Republic; Registered; Landru; goldilucky; Clinton Is Scum
"To take money from CHICOMS is all the better as it means less money in their hands to do bad things." Talking of "bad things" don't forget China-gate and the '96 election when Bill Clinton and the DNC wrapped his candidancy in Zillions of dollars courtesy of the Red Chinese!
This Gore/China trip is very revealing. Just last week, Al Gore was slamming the American People for voting GOP in the last election and Gore and Daschele were holding hands while accusing Rush Limbaugh and certain conservative newspapers of being a "Fifth Column" in the USA!! And now Gore goes to shake hands and collect money from CHINA???
If you haven't noticed, Gore is Hillary's mouthpiece these days. Saying what Hillary longs to say. Doing what Hillary longs to do! She can't RISK messing up her Presidential chances right now, so....
Al Gore IS Hillary right now.
Why? The Clinton's have let Gore believe that if he's a "good boy" they'll save a place for him in paradise so Gore is being used to aid the Clintons. And if that includes going to Red China for some more suitcases full of cash...that's what Al will do!
To: Joy Angela
You got that a little wrong. AlGore was taking money from the Chicoms when he was in the senate. HE INTRODUCED THE BIG C TO THE CHICOMS, not the other way around.
To: Liz
"Asia Society source as saying that Mr. Chan, the former Enron director, hosted the Asia Society meeting."ENRON...figures. You know, I think I have it figured out: left-wing Dems live in TV Rerun Land!
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