AMBROSE EVANS-PRITCHARD: Britain could face expulsion from EU under Prodi plan

The Daily Telegraph ^ | December 6, 2002 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

[MadIvan]

Dynamite the Chunnel, the party's over. What a very weird little fantasy world these guys inhabit...

Everyone should take a trip to Brussels and get a guided tour of the EU buildings if they can. You'll be amazed at the waste involved and the amount of sheer fantasy that is running through these bureaucrats' minds.

It is time to leave the EU - we've seen where it leads: inevitably to failure.

Regards, Ivan

[aristeides]

Could Prodi's proposal be meant to make the Commissioners' draft look moderate in comparison?

"Operation Penelope." Very odd choice of a name. Penelope spent every night undoing the sewing she had done during the day. Does the title mean this project is intended to fail?

[general_re]

...Tony Benn, for example, as he feels that the EU is "too capitalist", of all things.

LOL. Well, take your allies where you can find them, I suppose ;)

[u-89]

form a US/UK/Canada/Australia/NZ trade/defense bloc.

If this happens do we get to call Britain Airstrip One?

[Calamari]

Brussels should have powers to intervene with force in the domestic affairs of member states in cases of "serious internal disturbances affecting the maintenance of law and order", as long as it was done in a spirit of "solidarity".

Who decides when to invoke this little gem and what if the member state objects? Another European war?

[Cicero]

Codenamed "Operation Penelope", it was drafted in total secrecy by a five-man cell.

I suppose "cell" is Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's word, but it is certainly well chosen. The central Euro-gov seems to work on Communist Party principles. There are no elections, they are responsible to nobody, and they arrive at their decisions in secret.

True, they have no substantial military, but they probably have enough tanks and guns to enforce policy on an unarmed, effete, and cowed civilian population, especially if they continue with a policy of divide and conquer. A socialist dictatorship could make hay in England if they used immigrant gangs in the kind of ways Hitler used the brownshirts or various youth groups.

[MadIvan]

. A socialist dictatorship could make hay in England if they used immigrant gangs in the kind of ways Hitler used the brownshirts or various youth groups.

I don't think so. Every time people have underestimated the English people, they've paid a terrible price for it.

Consistent majorities still want no more integration with Europe - if we could only convince our elites that what the people want actually happens to be right for the country. After all, that is what they are supposed to be doing - what is right.

Regards, Ivan

[Mortimer Snavely]

This is absolutely outrageous.

SNORT! FUME!

[Wolfstar]

Leftists have always loved ever more centralized super-government. It's no accident that most "world-level" pseudo-government bodies are located in Europe, home of Leftist thought for over a century and a half. Also home to the several highly destructive "isms" Leftist thought spawned: communism, socialism, Nazism, and facism — close cousins all. (There are only two reasons the UN is located in New York — the UN HQ was built on donated land, and when the UN was created, Europe was still in a post-WWII devastated condition.)

These days, the Leftists who run the EU are angling for two things: (1) superpower status to challenge, compete with, and — as they see it — contain the United States, and (2) to use EU and "world-level" pseudo-government agencies to force an end to nation states in favor of a true world government.

In the meantime, while the EU Leftists are playing their game of world Monopoly, they are ignoring a gathering threat of monumental proportions right in their midst and on their borders, radical Islamism. I am no fan of many of Tony Blair's policies, but I say a hearty thank God for his brave stand on terrorism and Iraq.

[expatpat]

I think that this is just a touch of Macchiavelli - the lesser-evil trick. In other words, Prodi is putting this forward to make the real aim, the existing proposal, seem mild in comparison, and therefore more acceptable.

In any event, all of this crap is beyond the pale, and it's about time the British public woke up and put a stop to it.

[Sparta]

What about Ireland? How does it feel carrying the load of trash like France and Germany?

[calenel]

Or *WE* get fifty...

[Constantine XIII]

Well, after the European economy collapes under the weight of its own neurotic socialist system, we can at least be happy that the newborn fourth reich won't have the military power to fight its way out of a wet paper bag. Never hurts to look at the bright side, eh? :o)

[Constantine XIII]

And who needs 145 pages to write a freaking constitution?! It must be the bureaucratic brainchild from hell!

[Kadric]

Nope we would get 53 by my count. 50 states, Portarico, Guam, and Washington DC.

[rmlew]

EU: Please expel everyone but Germany, France, and Belgium.

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

[McGavin999]

Hey, they could even rename it Union of Silly Socialist Republics....USSR.....has sort of a familiar ring to it, doesn't it?

[okie01]

Refresh my memory, if you will, please. Exactly what is the argument for Great Britain joining the EU?

I can't seem to recall it...