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Joe Farah: Bush, Powell wrong on Islam
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 6, 2002 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 12/06/2002 2:44:59 PM PST by Michael2001

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To: sinkspur
My position: each human being deserves the benefit of the doubt until they, personally, prove otherwise.

So black people should give Klan members the benefit of the doubt? The Klan hates blacks as Islam hates Infidels.
21 posted on 12/06/2002 3:47:47 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: JCG
I don't want to fight with you or anything, but how do you think people would feel if the tables were turned?

What if it were a bunch of McVeigh types who killed 3000 in the "name of Jesus & Ronald Reagan" .. And, suddenly people were crying out about "dangerous" Conservatives, Christians and (worst of all) Christian Conservatives.

I don't know about you, but I shouldn't be harmed because of some misguided thing that was done in the name of my God or my ideology if I didn't participate in it.

Even better, if someone bombs an abortion clinic and you force an answer out of me I would say it's wrong, unconditionally. Period. Put me on a jury and I will sentence the guilty to fry for it.

But.. by the same token, don't expect me to cry a river about it either. I hate abortion.

Just because I won't lose sleep over it doesn't mean I am guilty by association and it doesn't mean I am part of the problem.

Can you see the paralells here?

22 posted on 12/06/2002 3:50:07 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: sit-rep
Muslim children-Islam, are taught to "hate" America and everything it stands for

That's the dumbest thing I've read all day on Free Republic. Seriously.

Your quote creates a clear picture why you support the queers. Too bad you do not have children. Your views change when you love something.

I have children. Grown children.

And they weren't taught to hate people.

As yours, unfortunately, probably are. Some "love."

23 posted on 12/06/2002 3:51:10 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Michael2001
So black people should give Klan members the benefit of the doubt?

Klan members have proven otherwise, by their very membership in the Klan.

24 posted on 12/06/2002 3:55:26 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Michael2001

Sure..

Their speech is protected by the constitution, just like Louie Farakkahn's bunch.

Now, if they commit a crime in the name of the "white race" or whatever, that's a different story.

That's not protected and they can be punished for that.

Just like violent Muslims can be punished. Because their thought's, beliefs and words are protected, violent actions however are not.

25 posted on 12/06/2002 4:00:05 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: sinkspur
"My position: each human being deserves the benefit of the doubt until they, personally, prove otherwise."

This might help you be proven otherwise:

Link to "1,400 Years of Islamic Aggression: An Analysis" and to other Islamic Mindset

27 posted on 12/06/2002 4:02:31 PM PST by KriegerGeist
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To: sinkspur
Is your head in the sand sinkspur? The mistake by our media clearly showed thousands of arabs(Muslims) rejoicing in the streets at home abroad, and even here in country. Dearborn Michigan, the other side of Detroit from me, had 100s, possibly thousands of dancers in the streets. HERE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!

You're hopeless...

As far as my children go, they will grow knowing right from wrong. They will not grow to be passive. Your secret code word "Hate" has nothing to do with common sense.

SR

28 posted on 12/06/2002 4:04:06 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sinkspur
Might as well say that every wasp, hornet and yellowjacket deserves the benefit of the doubt until they, personally, prove otherwise. It's a noble sentiment, but hey, we can generalize about some things if we've learned anything since 9/11. Oh sure, there are millions of innocent Muslims who individually have done us no harm, but where is the outrage? Where is the outpouring of sentiment renouncing terrorism and jihad? Where are the droves of converts renouncing their moon-god and its violent, repressive, medieval law society?

True Islam, whether right or wrong, is simply incompatible with the West. Anyone who professes to be Muslim and yet lives just like every other mall-shopping, football-watching, oblivious American Joe is living in a Walt Disney version of Islam. They haven't taken the mandates of the Quran to heart yet, mandates to spread Islam over the face of the Earth whether by book or by sword, forcing submission and obedience or else. If the peaceful, American, Walt Disney Muslims ever "get religion" and take up their swords in sympathy with the Islamists then we're in a world of hurt. I will, however, continue to give them the benefit of the doubt that they will stay in Disneyland, preferring after all the comforts of civilized Western life to the austerity of a brutal Shari'a.

29 posted on 12/06/2002 4:04:59 PM PST by Sender
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To: Michael2001
Don't bother..."The Emporer has beautiful clothes"...

SR

31 posted on 12/06/2002 4:05:52 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: BrowningBAR
Frankly, the barbarians in our midst need to feel the wrath of our anger.

Agreed. Take out the "barbarians." But there ain't that many "barbarians."

32 posted on 12/06/2002 4:06:05 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Michael2001
As an Israeli military officer said, Islam is the swamp wherein terrorism breeds; you drain the swamp, you stop terrorism. This has been true for centuries. There is no reason for a devout, Koran-believing Muslim to immigrate to America. NONE. His worldview is contrary to the historical values of our country. The same goes for Communists and Nazis. We used to try to keep anti-Americans out of America - now its un-PC to do that, and therefore taboo.
33 posted on 12/06/2002 4:10:00 PM PST by agrandis
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To: BrowningBAR
Not all Japanese/Germans were vicious in WWII yet we waged total war and had total victory against them.

Yes. I'm sure you're very proud of Roosevelt's shameful detention of Japanese-Americans in camps.

That's what's in store for American-Muslims, if FR is any indication.

34 posted on 12/06/2002 4:11:07 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Three people have the stones to speak their mind, and now it's FR...

LOL....hew boy!

SR

35 posted on 12/06/2002 4:13:46 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep
Dearborn Michigan, the other side of Detroit from me, had 100s, possibly thousands of dancers in the streets.

Really? Where were all the news reports of thousands of American Muslims dancing in the streets on 9/11? Can you dig one or two up?

36 posted on 12/06/2002 4:14:16 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur

What people are missing is just how easily the precedents set in the WOT can be turned on them in the future.

It's easy to shoot from the hip and make rules for others, it's also easy to buckle under your own standard if they are ever turned against you.

37 posted on 12/06/2002 4:14:22 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Michael2001
Thanks for a timely 'tell it like it is' article post.
Farah speaks/writes for me on many subjects and has often
been the 'voice in the wilderness' of political correctness.
38 posted on 12/06/2002 4:16:03 PM PST by hoot33
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To: Jhoffa_
Don't self flatter...we all read the small print of the "Anti-Terrorism Bill". We don't like it...but heck!...our Republicans drafted and passed it!!

SR

39 posted on 12/06/2002 4:17:31 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: Michael2001
A man who exhibits no Guile! Anything left to drift will pick up and exhibit all parts of its environment good & bad, unfortunately the bad is more aggressive! islam is bad!
40 posted on 12/06/2002 4:18:06 PM PST by wharfrat
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