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Street Preacher Plans Anti-Santa Message
Mobile Register ^ | 12-07-2002 | Brendan Kirby

Posted on 12/07/2002 4:40:58 PM PST by blam

Street preacher plans anti-Santa message

Orlando Bethel preaches that 'Santa Claus is Satan's cause'

12/07/02

By BRENDAN KIRBY
Staff Reporter

LOXLEY -- Controversial evangelist Orlando Bethel may be headed for a showdown with Loxley authorities today, when he intends to take his no-holds-barred message to the town's annual Christmas parade against the wishes of organizers.

Bethel, who drew national headlines over the summer when a crowd of funeral mourners attacked him following his condemnation of the deceased, said Friday he will not back down from his mission to spread the truth about Christmas. He said unholy attention on Santa Claus takes the Christ out of Christmas.

"Santa Claus is Satan's cause," said Bethel, who promised to protest along the parade route on Alabama 59 clad in a Santa costume and devil mask.

Bethel's plans have injected intrigue into a normally small, quiet affair in this sleepy town of 1,348 at the cross section of Interstate 10 and Alabama 59.

Organizers from the Loxley Optimist Club initially told Bethel his New Life Gospel Productions could participate in the parade, then rescinded the offer after Bethel announced he would dress in his SantSatan costume and preach outside the parade.

Bethel said he would not ride in the parade after the Optimist Club told him it was limiting the parade to one Santa. Event chairman John Chappell said Bethel's application is nullified since he will not be on the float as his application to join the parade indicated.

"Due to the adverse publicity this provided ... and with him not being in it, it changes it," he said. "I just think he's someone who wants a lot of attention."

Chappell, who owns Mane Street Style Shop in Loxley, said he did not expect controversy when he agreed to head up the planning for the parade. He said his organization has sponsored the event for at least 20 years.

"We're pretty cut and dried. You follow the rules, or you're not in our parade," he said. "Our intention is to have a safe, enjoyable and happy Christmas parade and move on with the spirit of Christmas."

It is exactly that spirit that Bethel said he wants to uphold. He said it is modern society, with its emphasis on a fat man in a red suit bringing presents to children, that has it wrong.

He said he will hand out leaflets to folks explaining that Santa promotes idolatry and covetousness. He chastised parents for perpetuating the myth.

"They're lying to their children to pray to, or ask, Santa Claus for presents," he said. "It's contrary to the gospel. It's contrary to Jesus."

Bethel and his wife, Glynis Bethel, have taken an aggressive approach to preaching the gospel since moving to Loxley from Miami about two years ago. Orlando Bethel angered members of the congregation at Pine Grove Baptist Church who had gathered for the funeral of Lish Taylor.

Last month, he was convicted of harassing communications for tacking a sheet of paper to the door of his brother-in-law, Jasper Lemuel Molden. The sheet called Molden a "whoremonger," his then-fiancee a "whore" and urged them to repent for "fornication."

Bethel has appealed his conviction.

The Bethels planned a confrontational approach to the parade, entering a van displaying messages like, "Only Jesus Can Save You From the Lake of Fire" and urging people to reject Santa Claus.

Some mainstream religious leaders took issue with Bethel's characterization of Santa. Dino Entac, the director of campus ministry at Spring Hill College, noted that Santa Claus comes from St. Nicholas of Myra, a fourth-century Catholic bishop who gave money and gifts to the poor and sick.

"In its history, it is connected to the story of a saint," he said.

Entac said some may get carried away with the secular nature of the holiday, but he added that he believes the story of Santa is no more satanic than that of the Easter bunny.

"Does that take away from the day Jesus rose from the dead? I don't think so," he said.

As for the parade, Glynis Bethel said she intends to line up today at Loxley Municipal Park as float No. 23.

"We're going to show up at 9 a.m. tomorrow with the float ... and if they want to ban us, they'll have to ban us in front of the TV cameras," she said.

Police Chief Cliff Yetter said he does not expect trouble with so many children in attendance. He said six officers will work the parade, the same as usual.

"We're not going to make a big deal out of it," he said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisanta; message; preacher; street
This is the guy who got into a brawl at a funeral where he was giving the eulogy. He told the mourners that the dead guy was wicked and would burn in hell. (Just like those in attendance, lol)

I just read recently that all charges had been dropped in the funeral incident.

1 posted on 12/07/2002 4:40:58 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Was it true?
2 posted on 12/07/2002 4:57:26 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35
"Was it true?"

Was what true?

3 posted on 12/07/2002 5:11:46 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Was the dearly departed wicked and on an express train to hell? Was he a notorious reprobate who received a well deserved eulogy? Or was the pastor speaking out of turn?
4 posted on 12/07/2002 5:42:25 PM PST by PAR35
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"Was the dearly departed wicked and on an express train to hell? Was he a notorious reprobate who received a well deserved eulogy? Or was the pastor speaking out of turn?"

I have no idea about the deceased but he apparently ripped into the mourners too. They beat him up. LOL

5 posted on 12/07/2002 6:00:30 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
this preacher is a nut. Only God can judge a person's spiritual worth.
6 posted on 12/07/2002 6:04:17 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: blam
There he is! First hit when you search Google Images on "Orlando Bethel".


7 posted on 12/07/2002 6:09:00 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Eternal_Bear
this preacher is a nut

In his profession, he has lots of company.

8 posted on 12/07/2002 6:12:26 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: blam; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer
I have no idea about the deceased but he apparently ripped into the mourners too. They beat him up. LOL

Good for them.

Last month, he was convicted of harassing communications for tacking a sheet of paper to the door of his brother-in-law, Jasper Lemuel Molden. The sheet called Molden a "whoremonger," his then-fiancee a "whore" and urged them to repent for "fornication."

Bump for a very slow learner.

9 posted on 12/07/2002 6:14:16 PM PST by dighton
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To: blam
"Santa equals Satan.


Now, please allow me to introduce to you another translocation of the word, Satan.


Santa. As in Santa Claus.


Before you react too quickly, please take the time to read this comparison between the Biblical teachings about Jesus Christ and the mythical teachings of Santa Claus. Many, many Christian pastors have lamented the fact that Santa Claus has replaced Jesus Christ in the hearts and minds of too many children and adults in America today. When you read this comparison, you will understand that this replacement in the hearts and minds of Americans is not by accident. You will be able to see Satan, the Master Marionette, pulling the strings above the world, leading adults and children alike away from Jesus Christ and toward Santa Claus, who is the epitome' of the love of the world and everything that is in it.

COMPARISON BETWEEN
JESUS CHRIST AND SANTA CLAUS


JESUS CHRIST: OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE SANTA CLAUS: THE COUNTERFEIT ACCORDING TO MYTH OF MEN
1. Has white hair like wool (Rev 1:14) 1. Has white hair like wool
2. Has a beard (Isaiah 50:6) 2. Has a beard
3. Comes in red apparel Isaiah (63:1-2) 3. Comes in red apparel
4. Hour of His coming is a mystery
(Luke 12:40; Mark 13:33)
4. Hour of his coming is a mystery
5. Comes from the North where He lives (Ezekiel 1:4; Psalm 48:2) 5. Comes from the North where he lives: North Pole
6. Is a carpenter (Mark 6:3) 6. Is a toy carpenter
7. Comes as a thief in the night
(Matthew 24:43-44)
7. Comes as a thief in the night. Even gains entrance to homes as a thief.
8. Omnipotent -- all powerful (Rev 19:6) 8. Omnipotent -- can deliver all the toys of the world in one night
9. Omniscient -- knows all (Hebrews 4:13; 1 John 3:20) 9. Omniscient -- knows if you have been good or bad, for the entire year
10. Omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-10; Ephesians 4:6; John 3:13) 10. Omnipresent -- sees when you wake or sleep. Has to be everywhere at once to be able to deliver all the toys in one short night.
11. Ageless, eternal (Rev 1:8; 21:6) 11. Lives forever
12. Lives in men (1 Cor 3:16; 2 Cor 6:16-17) 12. Lives in the hearts of children
13. Giver of Gifts (Ephesians 4:8) 13. Giver of Gifts
14. Absolute Truth (John 14:6) 14. Absolute Fable - (1 Tim 1:4; 4:7;
2 Tim 4:4)

15. Sits on a throne (Rev 5:1; Heb 1:8) 15. Sits on a throne
16. We are told to boldly go to the throne of Grace for our needs (Heb 4:16) 16. Children are bidden to approach his throne to ask for anything they want
17. Commands children to obey parents 17. Tells children to obey parents
18. Wants little children to come to Him (Mark 10:14) 18. Bids children to come unto him
19. Judges (Rom 14:10; Rev 20:2) 19. Judges whether you were good or bad
20. Everlasting Father (Isa 9:6; Heb 12:2) 20. Father Christmas
21. Christ Child (Matt 1:23; Luke 2:11-12) 21. Kris Kringle (means christ child)
22. Worthy of Prayers and Worship (Rev 5:14 Hebrews 1:6) 22. Prayers and worship to "St. Nick" by children
23. Lord of Hosts (Mal 3:5; Isa 8:13; Psalms 24:10) 23. Lord over a host of elves - (In Druidic religion, elves are demons or tree spirits
24. God says, "Ho, ho ... (Zechariah 2:6) 24. Santa says, "Ho, ho, ho ..."
25. Prince of Peace, the Image of God (Isa 9:6;
Hebrews 1:3)
25. Symbol of World Peace, the image of the Christmas Season
Note: This comparison taken from "The GOOD NEWSletter", by Former Catholics For Christ, Oct/Nov/Dec, 1997. Clearly, you can see that someone deliberately created a Secular counterfeit to Jesus Christ, matching the many attributes of Jesus Christ with Santa Claus! There are too many direct matches for this creation of Santa Claus to have been an accident. We are told in Job 1:6-7 that Satan walks up and down on the Earth, as if it were a small garden plot completely under his domination. Satan can be thought of as a Master Marionette, pulling the strings on Earth. Certainly, in these Last Days, Satan would have wanted someone else to draw the attention, admiration, and love of the children away from Jesus Christ. But, not only that, Satan would have wanted to infect children early with that most devastating of spiritual diseases, the love of material things, and the love of oneself that goes with trying to get as many presents as possible! The creation and promotion of Santa Claus certainly fulfills all these goals.


Remember that one of Jesus' End Times prophecy was that the hearts of the people would have become extremely cold to Him. "And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." (Matthew 24:12)


Certainly, children are told to come to the wrong source for their gifts, they are encouraged to right behavior throughout the year for the wrong reasons, and they are taught to love material things rather than, and more than, God. This brings to thought another End Times Scripture. "But understand this, that in the last days will come perilous times of great stress and trouble, hard to deal with and hard to bear. For people will be lovers of self and utterly self-centered, lovers of money and aroused by an inordinate greedy desire for wealth ... They will be lovers of sensual pleasures and vain amusements, more than and rather than, lovers of God." (2 Timothy 4:1, 2, 4; Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Commentary).


Doesn't this prophecy perfectly describe our society today? Children are being taught, at a very early age, to love material possessions, to try to get as many presents as possible, and to love themselves greatly, all as a result in believing this pagan myth of Santa Claus.


We encourage you to take this information with the love in which it was given. You certainly should not teach your children of the myth of Santa Claus, and you should teach them that Jesus Christ is the Reason for the Season. While there is no harm in exchanging gifts, you certainly should teach your children that it is better to give than to receive. And, you should definitely teach them that Jesus gave the greatest gift of all history, the Gift of Eternal Life!


Once you understand the deliberate way in which the myth of Santa Claus was created to be a direct counterfeit of Jesus Christ, you can see that children can be easily led spiritually astray by believing in, and participating in, this story. Keep them focused on Jesus Christ."

10 posted on 12/07/2002 6:36:36 PM PST by Faith65
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To: dighton; Orual; general_re; blam
Bethel and his wife, Glynis Bethel, have taken an aggressive approach to preaching the gospel since moving to Loxley from Miami about two years ago.

All evil begins in Florida.

11 posted on 12/07/2002 6:46:26 PM PST by aculeus
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To: blam
Alabama bump
12 posted on 12/07/2002 6:54:07 PM PST by Jael
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To: blam
I'll withhold judgement as to whether he was out of line, then. I have more respect for preachers like this than for liberal "anything goes" pastors.
13 posted on 12/07/2002 7:04:37 PM PST by PAR35
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To: 2sheep; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian; Jeremiah Jr
As for the parade, Glynis Bethel said she intends to line up today at Loxley Municipal Park as float No. 23.
14 posted on 12/07/2002 7:20:38 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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I would like to tell you that "santa claus", that jolly fat man is a western Christian creation.

Orthodox Christians only know St. Nicholai as the Bishop of Myra...and he was a Greek NOT a Roman, by the way. His Feast Day is December 6th and he has nothing to do with the Christmas Holiday( Holy day) other than the fact that he was a Christian Bishop of the early Church.

It was the western Christians who came up with all this materialist Christmas stuff.

15 posted on 12/07/2002 7:31:43 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: Revolting cat!
"There he is! First hit when you search Google Images on "Orlando Bethel"."

Nah. He's a black male.

16 posted on 12/07/2002 7:37:36 PM PST by blam
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To: 2sheep; Thinkin' Gal; RnMomof7
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17 posted on 12/07/2002 7:41:50 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: blam
This must be him then! (Alta Vista Images this time.)


18 posted on 12/07/2002 7:44:31 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: blam
Or him! (Ditto.com Image Search.)


19 posted on 12/07/2002 7:52:41 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: dighton
My father used to say, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

It's a good saying, and used to be believed by many in our country as representing what the first ammendment is all about.

20 posted on 12/07/2002 7:57:55 PM PST by rimtop56
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To: rimtop56
My father used to say, "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Let him say whatever he likes, but dissing the "loved one" at funerals is begging for trouble. That is my free speech.

21 posted on 12/07/2002 8:05:30 PM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
And here's my free speech. People who tell kids that Santa Claus is a product of or somehow related to Satan fall into the same category as snake handlers. Both groups are in desparate need of at least verbal abuse.
22 posted on 12/07/2002 8:46:31 PM PST by zook
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To: Faith65
bump
23 posted on 12/07/2002 9:20:14 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: dighton; DugwayDuke; aculeus; Orual
Link-back to Bethel's previous entry for his list of greatest lifetime hits beatings...

To: aomagrat; ClancyJ; Yeti; southern rock

Preacher says he was beaten by mourners 06/26/02

By GARY McELROY - Staff Reporter

A Loxley street preacher who screamed at a funeral that the deceased was burning in hell said Tuesday he was beaten by mourners for telling the truth.

While Orlando Bethel vowed his battle against evil has only begun, one relative at the service said he believes Bethel set out to incite the grievers because he was bitter over a family land squabble.

The incident occurred June 14 at the Pine Grove Baptist Church in Loxley at the funeral of Lish Taylor, an uncle of Bethel's wife, Glynis.

Bethel claims Loxley police did nothing after "a mob" beat him.

"They said it was attempted murder," Loxley Police Chief Cliff Yetter said Tuesday. "It was a little scratch on his shoulder."

Yetter said Bethel's verbal assault "slandered the family of the deceased. ... He told them the man in the coffin was going to hell, calling them whoremongers."

Neither of the Bethels disa greed with claims that Orlando Bethel screamed out during the solemn gathering, condemning all to "a lake of fire."

He was only supposed to sing, Orlando Bethel admitted, "but the Holy Ghost told me to really speak the truth -- I said this man was no longer with us because he is in hell, that they needed to repent of their sins, there was a lesbian scheduled to sing, and there were fornicators.

"That was when I was dragged to the back of the church by several men," he said.

"He almost got killed," Glynis Bethel said. She said her husband was seriously injured and she later found him "balled up in an embryo position."

The Bethels said Tuesday that after getting nowhere with Loxley police, they went to the Baldwin County Sheriff's Department, where a warrant was issued for Glynis Bethel's brother, Lemuel Molden, one of the alleged attackers.

According to a sheriff's spokesman, no warrant had been issued by late Tuesday.

Molden said Tuesday his sister had been away from Alabama for years and returned to Loxley from Miami about a year ago to claim part of a 50-acre home site left to family members when their grandmother died.

The Bethels ended up with about an acre, Molden said.

"They wanted to acquire all of the property and make it some kind of retreat," Molden said. "It didn't pan out like they thought it would, and I guess they are a little bitter."

Molden said that after his uncle died, Orlando Bethel called and asked to sing at the funeral.

Molden now says he believes the request was "premeditated."

"My uncle didn't like Orlando," Molden said. He said Bethel would often "go down and pray for my uncle," only to be ordered out of the house.

"I think he was being revengeful," Molden said of Bethel.

Molden said that when Bethel began his harangue at the church, mourners froze in shock.

"After he sings, he grabs the mike and yells that Lish is burning in hell. He just screamed it out."

Molden said that when someone cut off the microphone, Bethel gestured to a young man to bring a bag down front.

It was then, Molden said, that people began leaving, fearing there were weapons in the bag.

"He pulls out a megaphone," Molden said. "We tried to get him out of the church. I asked him, 'Orlando, why are you doing this?'" Molden said.

Molden said that later the Bethels drove up to his home. Orlando Bethel began screaming about hell, and Glynis Bethel, while "speaking in tongues," sprinkled olive oil on Molden.

"I thought it was gasoline," Molden said.

Molden, although frustrated at his sister and her husband, expressed respect for their "persistence."

As if to confirm this, the couple said Tuesday the battle for the souls of relatives and other Loxley sinners was only beginning.

"We are going to get a parade permit," Glynis Bethel said.

End of story.

My comments begin. As some surmised, it appears there was a bit more to this story than was reported in the original article. If this article is correct, then there is a good case for suing this guy, fraud, since it appears there was a contract for him to sing, not to preach. He could also be sued for disrupting a service too.

214 posted on 06/28/2002 5:47 PM EDT by DugwayDuke
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24 posted on 12/07/2002 9:43:18 PM PST by general_re
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To: blam
Has this guy published his fatwa on the Tooth Fairy yet?
25 posted on 12/07/2002 9:48:21 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: crazykatz
His Feast Day is December 6th and he has nothing to do with the Christmas Holiday( Holy day) other than the fact that he was a Christian Bishop of the early Church.

Bishop Nicholas attended the Council in the 4th century. One other bishop talked at length that he didn't believe that Jesus was divine. And he wouldn't shut up. Nicholas got so upset that he went up to the heretic and decked him.

26 posted on 12/07/2002 10:18:41 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: general_re
Thanks for the article in post #24, I couldn't find it.

Loxley is a small town in Baldwin County that gave 69% of their votes for the Republicans in the last election. There are zero Democrats in the county government.

27 posted on 12/07/2002 10:19:48 PM PST by blam
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