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Lest we Forget... December 7, 1941
Action America ^ | 12/7/02 | John Gaver

Posted on 12/07/2002 10:34:20 PM PST by Action-America

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That about says it all.

(Note: This article has been up on Action America all day. I'm sorry that it took me so long to post it here.)

1 posted on 12/07/2002 10:34:20 PM PST by Action-America
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To: Action-America
USS Arizona!!
2 posted on 12/07/2002 10:38:02 PM PST by Nitro
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To: Action-America; harpo11
bump and a ping for harpo!
3 posted on 12/07/2002 10:42:29 PM PST by TPartyType
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To: All
Lest we forget World War II and our Japanese adversaries!






Gorio
4 posted on 12/07/2002 10:42:43 PM PST by gorio
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To: Action-America
Although some sites would enumerate at this point, the casualties sustained by the Japanese, in the attack on Pearl Harbor

Why do any sites bother? Just confuses the Japanese, who are taught a COMPLETELY whitewashed version of their role in WWII.

Believe it or not, most of them believe that they went to war because the Allies were blockading their access to oil just to be mean. NO mention is made of their planned Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere or their occupation, rape, and pillage of Manchuria (China) or Korea.

5 posted on 12/07/2002 10:49:18 PM PST by petuniasevan
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To: B4Ranch; 06isweak; 07055; 0scill8r; 100American; 100%FEDUP; 101st-Eagle; 101stSignal; 101viking; ...
Dec. 7th Heads Up!
6 posted on 12/07/2002 11:09:51 PM PST by Action-America
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To: Action-America
Bump
7 posted on 12/07/2002 11:11:14 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Action-America
Great thread. Thanks for the ping.
8 posted on 12/07/2002 11:11:42 PM PST by Jen
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To: Action-America
Thanks for the ping.
9 posted on 12/07/2002 11:18:19 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: Action-America
My husband and some other active duty folk from our church went down and presented a wreath at the ceremony this morning. It's hard to describe how moving it is, particularly when one of the other friends who was along was 7 or 8 and living very near Pearl when the attack hit. He's Japanese, Buddhist - says their family was told by the Buddhist priest not to come to temple on the 7th. He saw the planes fly overhead, thought at first it was an exercise.

Here's a photo of the group and their wreath. The guy in the center is the minister, not a veteran.


12 posted on 12/07/2002 11:33:05 PM PST by Spyder
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Just confuses the Japanese, who are taught a COMPLETELY whitewashed version of their role in WWII.

So very true.  A business acquaintance of mine is married to a Japanese woman and she once told me that she was shocked and at first, did not believe what she learned when she first moved to the US in the late 50's.  She said that she only began to accept the truth about WWII, nearly five years later, after she did a lot of her own research, including reading at least 10 history books from various sources, including Europe and Australia (she initially thought that US history books were the ones that were biased).  The last time that I saw her, several years ago, she told me that her younger brother, who still lives in Japan, thinks that she has been brainwashed by the Americans and still believes the Japanese cleansed version.

Indeed, from what I can tell, most Japanese are still taught today, that they entered WWII because Americans were blockading them for no reason.

Note:  I don't want anyone to think that I have no respect for the Japanese military men who prosecuted the rest of the war.  Some of them exhibited extreme bravery.  I just have no respect for the type of cowards who perpetrated the attack on Pearl Harbor.

 

13 posted on 12/07/2002 11:34:37 PM PST by Action-America
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There is one point that was not made in the above post, that I find very interesting.

In just barely under six months after Pearl Harbor, the US Navy trounced the Japanese Navy at Midway, in what was the turning point in the whole Pacific war.  There was still a lot of battles to be fought, but from that point on, the Japanese were, for all intents and purposes, on the defense.

Think about it...

From Pearl Harbor to turn around in ONLY 6 MONTHS.

 

15 posted on 12/07/2002 11:46:15 PM PST by Action-America
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To: tuckessee
We truly were a multicultural nation. People of all races, creeds, and colors could decapitate Japs lol.
16 posted on 12/08/2002 12:08:38 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: heidizeta
So true! Thanks for that observation!
17 posted on 12/08/2002 1:26:24 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: Action-America
... the US Navy trounced the Japanese Navy at Midway,

We were lucky kid... the Jap navy kicked our ass most of the time.

One flight commander, McCluskey, found 3 carriers and pay-dirt off Midway.

Think about this... we lost 2000 on Tarawa, 5000 on Iwo and 10,000 on Okinawa.

You have a comic book view of history.

18 posted on 12/08/2002 2:16:34 AM PST by johnny7
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Think about this... we lost 2000 on Tarawa, 5000 on Iwo and 10,000 on Okinawa. You have a comic book view of history.

My point was that, although there were many battles yet to be fought after Midway, from that point on the Japanese were essentially fighting to either hold on to what they had or retreating.  The reason that we lost so many men in ground battles was that the average Japanese (citizen and soldier) had been tought that we would torture them, if they were captured.  The Japanese soldiers did not see surrender as an option.  In Okinawa, thousands of women jumped off of the cliffs with their children, for fear of being captured alive.

We lost a lot of men to acts of desperation, on the part of the Japanese, both on the battle field and on the seas.  After all, it wasn't the towel heads who invented the idea of flying a plane into a stationary structure on a suicide mission.

When an enemy is losing and doesn't see surrender as an option, the desperation that follows can usually cause a lot of damage and death on both sides.  But, unless the other side makes a big mistake, those acts of desperation generally leave the enemy in even worse shape.  Even so, they can still cause a lot of damage in those acts of desperation.

Documents from that time show that many in the Japanese government and military we not entirely convinced, going into the war, that they could win.   But, they did believe that they could put up a good fight.

There is a big difference between winning and putting up a good fight.  After Midway, the Japaneese put up a good fight, but they were not winning.

 

19 posted on 12/08/2002 3:44:32 AM PST by Action-America
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To: Action-America
Thanx for the ping! Excellent thread.

As much as I hate it, I'm honestly afraid it's going to take another large attack on this country before anything really happens. I hope not but that's how things are looking. All the pussy-footing around is driving me up the walls.
20 posted on 12/08/2002 5:26:01 AM PST by radu
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