Posted on 12/08/2002 4:27:36 PM PST by SJackson
Funny how the article forgot to mention that the information Pollard provided ended up with our enemies at the time, the Russians. He's lucky to be sitting in a cell.Does anyone actually still defend this traitor? He spied on the US, and some of the information he stole ended up in the hands of the Soviets.
The only question that's really relevant anymore is if it got to them through a Soviet mole in Mossad (as the Israelis claim) or if it was being traded to the KGB for emigres (as many in US intelligence suspect). The nature of some of it indicates the latter.
-Eric
Well actually, I was fully prepared to post this article but was saving it for a 'slow day'.
Good job done...either way.
As I have seen you post otherwise. My question would be: do we take away folks like your self, or RCW2001, who contribute much, who suspect more, but prove little?
I'd like to see 'em all dance (including that slut who sold intelligence to Cuba and then stated she was proud of it).
Such is the case with Jonathan Pollard.
Could someone please tell this guy to put his pen down?
The two cases have noting in common. Reb Chaim Yehoshua has been wronged by an oppressive Russian tsarist regime, and freeing him would be correcting that wrong.
In contrast, Pollard has wronged (betrayed) his own country that has treated him not only fairly but entrusted him matters of survival. And, also in contrast, unlike Russia which imposed on the Jews the pale of settlement and other restrictions, the Jews in this country enjoy full equality. So neither at the personal level nor for Jews in general these two cases have anything in common.
Pollard should rot in jail. SJackson, I agree completely with your assessment: the lack of proportion is there but it arose not because Pollard is treaed harshly but because others were treated all to liniently.
RCW2001 can sleep well now. (Liberty/Pollard is like a cady for this little girl).
The point is that a U.S CITIZEN spied for Israel, and sold out his own country.
How would YOU like it to find out that an Israeli citizen, a veteran of the IDF in fact, was in fact selling secrets to the U.S. who in return was giving the information to Hamas in exchange for Hamas' leaving American targets out of their outrages?
Don't even bother answering; the screams from you and others would be audible from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
That's why we spit on you and anyone else who tries to make Pollard into this pathetic martyr to your stinkin' cause.
Pollard's going to rot in prison and it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Are you alleging the U.S. is "anti-Semitic" then?
Let's hear your "proof."
Another classy post from the poster boy for Ritalin. I have never seen a freeper say he spits upon another. Not until you came along.
No he hasn't. The debt will be paid in full when he dies in prison. Until then, let him rot with all the other traitors.
Are you alleging the U.S. is "anti-Semitic" then?
No but you are.
Let's hear your "proof."
Name | Country Spied For | Sentence/Punishment | Time Served Before Release* |
Jonathan Pollard | Israel | Life imprisonment | |
Michael Schwartz | Saudi Arabia | Discharged from Navy | No time served. |
Peter Lee | China | 1 year in halfway house | No jail time. |
Samuel Morison | Great Britain | 2 years | 3 months |
Phillip Selden | El Salvador | 2 years | |
Steven Baba | South Africa | 8 years; reduced to 2 years | 5 months |
Sharon Scranage | Ghana | 5 years; reduced to 2 years | 8 months |
Jean Baynes | Phillipines | 41 months | 15 months |
Abdul Kader Helmy | Egypt | 4 years | 2 years |
Geneva Jones | Liberia | 37 months | |
Frederick Hamilton | Ecuador | 37 months | |
Joseph Brown | Phillipines | 6 years | |
Michael Allen | Phillipines | 8 years | |
Robert Kim | South Korea | 9 years | |
Thomas Dolce | South Africa | 10 years | 5.2 years |
Steven Lalas | Greece | 14 years |
* Time served before release is shown where known. Other cases of early release exist.
Are you alleging the U.S. is "anti-Semitic" then?
No but you are.
Oh? In what way? (Did Pollard get a disproportionately long sentence) Let's hear your "proof."
Here it is pal:
Name | Country Spied For | Sentence | Time Served Before Release* |
James Wood | Soviet Union | 2 years | |
Sahag Dedyan | Soviet Union | 3 years | |
Randy Jeffries | Soviet Union | 3-9 years | |
Amarylis Santos | Cuba | 3½ years | |
Joseph Santos | Cuba | 4 years | |
Mariano Faget | Cuba | 5 years | |
Brian Horton | Soviet Union | 6 years | |
Alejandro Alonso | Cuba | 7 years | |
William Bell | Poland | 8 years | |
Alfred Zoho | East Germany | 8 years | |
Nikolay Ogarodnikova | Soviet Union | 8 years | |
Francis X. Pizzo | Soviet Union | 10 years | |
Daniel Richardson | Soviet Union | 10 years | |
Ernst Forbich | East Germany | 15 years | |
William Whalen | Soviet Union | 15 years | |
Edwin Moore | Soviet Union | 15 years | |
Troung Dinh Ung | North Vietnam | 15 years | |
Ronald Humphrey | North Vietnam | 15 years | |
Kurt Alan Stand | East Germany | 17½ years | |
Robert Lipka | Soviet Union | 18 years | |
David Barnett | Soviet Union | 18 years | |
Svetlana Ogarodnikova | Soviet Union | 18 years | |
Albert Sombolay | Iraq & Jordan | 19 years | |
Richard Miller | Soviet Union | 20 years | 6 years |
Theresa Maria Squillacote | East Germany | 21.8 years | |
Sarkis Paskallan | Soviet Union | 22 years | |
Harold Nicholson | Soviet Union | 23 years | |
David Boone | Soviet Union | 24 years | |
Ana Belen Montes | Cuba | 25 years | |
Clayton Lonetree | Soviet Union | 25 years | 9 years |
Michael Walker | Soviet Union | 25 years | 15 years |
Bruce Ott | Soviet Union | 25 years | |
Kelly Warren | Hungary & Czechoslovakia |
25 years | |
Earl Pitts | Soviet Union | 27 years | |
H.W. Boachanhaupi | Soviet Union | 30 years | |
Roderick Ramsay | Hungary & Czechoslovakia |
36 years | |
James Hall | Soviet Union & East Germany |
40 years | |
Christopher Boyce | Soviet Union | 40 years | |
William Kampiles | Soviet Union | 40 years | 19 years |
Veldik Enger | Soviet Union | 50 years | |
R.P. Charnyayev | Soviet Union | 50 years | |
Marian Zacharski | Poland | Life | 4 years |
Aldrich Ames | Soviet Union | Life | |
Robert Hanssen | Soviet Union | Life |
* Time served before release is shown where known. Other cases of early release exist.
Aldrich Ames' treatment was far more benign, and (except for a relatively short period of time during debriefing) did not include the rigours of long years of solitary; nor was he ever subjected to the harsh conditions of "K" Unit at Marion - even though his offence was far more serious.
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