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Republicans Outflanked Themselves in Louisiana
CapitolHillBlue.com ^ | 12/9/02 | LEE HOCKSTADER & ADAM NOSSITER

Posted on 12/09/2002 1:29:20 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!

NEW ORLEANS -- The Republican playbook for deposing Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana was fine-tuned in Washington and battle-tested with glorious results elsewhere in the South: Recruit a plausible challenger. Unleash attack ads skewering the Democrat on taxes and abortion. And for the grand finale, bring in President Bush to campaign at the Republican candidate's side.

But something went wrong in the Bayou State. Landrieu, who just a week ago seemed to fit the GOP blueprint's definition of a vulnerable incumbent, held off the challenge and won a convincing victory in a runoff election Saturday. She beat the Republican, elections commissioner Suzanne Haik Terrell, 52 percent to 48 percent.

Today, as Republicans licked their wounds, Democrats crowed at what amounted to one of their few bright spots in an otherwise disastrous political year. Some dubbed the winner -- whose triumph Saturday dwarfed her 5,788-vote margin of victory in 1996 -- "Landslide Landrieu."

Democratic operatives and political analysts said the Republicans were guilty of political hubris, believing in their own invincibility and therefore overplaying their hand by relying too heavily on negative advertising, and counting too much on Bush's electoral magic.

Bush's eleventh-hour visit, and the relentless barrage of advertising attacks on Landrieu, may even have backfired, analysts said, and were probably factors in generating a higher turnout in the core Democratic base of African Americans.

"The president's visit energized the conservative base, but it also energized the Democratic base," said Marc Morial, the Democratic former mayor of New Orleans.

At a morning news conference today in downtown New Orleans, Landrieu stressed the role of blacks in her victory. Standing beside U.S. Rep. William J. Jefferson, a New Orleans Democrat who is perhaps Louisiana's most influential black politician, Landrieu declared, "The soul of our party is the African American community, and they stood up.''

Analysts also credited Landrieu with running a more nimble campaign, one that took advantage of Louisiana's demographic and political peculiarities -- it is poorer, more progressive, more Catholic and more African American than some other Southern states. She benefited enormously by her close alliance with Sen. John Breaux, the state's hugely popular senior Democratic senator, who accompanied her in many campaign appearances throughout the month-long runoff. The Democrats' "Breaux factor" may partly have offset the Republicans' "Bush factor," some analysts said.

But Landrieu also took other lessons from the Republican victories on Nov. 5. Chief among them was the importance of devising some message, strategy or issue that would offset the president's formidable personal popularity with a local issue that played to the Democrats' advantage. In Landrieu's case, the issue was sugar.

The day after Bush's campaign visit to the state last Tuesday, Landrieu's campaign began airing an ad charging that the White House had struck a "secret deal" to double Mexican sugar imports to the United States. The imports would hurt Louisiana's 27,000 sugar farmers and the state's $1.7 billion sugar industry.

The ad hung on a slender thread of evidence: a single, unsourced article in the Mexican newspaper Reforma. The White House denied the existence of any such "deal" to flood the United States with cheap Mexican sugar. Nonetheless, the point seemed to hit home, dovetailing with Landrieu's message that she would put "Louisiana first" while Terrell -- by now appearing in television ads side by side with the president -- would be a rubber stamp for the administration who would disregard the state's interests.

"The momentum definitely shifted when we came out with the sugar issue," said Mitch Landrieu, a Democratic member of the state's House of Representatives who served as a key unofficial campaign operative for his older sister Mary. "It played directly into our theme and proved our point that a senator's supposed to be for Louisiana first and Suzie [Terrell] and George Bush are linked at the hip."

The sugar ad was critical in reassembling the Democratic coalition in Louisiana of working-class whites, especially farmers, and urban blacks, about 90 percent of whom are believed to support Landrieu. And it played on the populist traditions of a poor, small state whose more indigent residents have traditionally seen Washington and big business as hostile forces.

"It reinforced a suspicion in Louisiana that we're going to get it in the neck," said John Maginnis, a political analyst in Baton Rouge, La., and the publisher of a political newsletter. "It used an economic issue to reconnect rural whites and blacks."

Meanwhile, the Landrieu campaign's all-out push to maximize black turnout got an unexpected -- and unintended -- assist from the Republicans. The more the Republicans flooded the airwaves with ads attacking Landrieu as a liberal, the more it galvanized black support for her, and reinforced their resolve to vote, analysts said.

"It just got out of control," said Silas Lee, a sociologist at Xavier University in New Orleans. "African American voters wanted a more positive message."

In addition, workers in the Landrieu campaign cited what appeared to be unusually aggressive Republican efforts to dampen black turnout. They produced a flyer they said had been distributed in black public housing complexes in New Orleans, apparently designed to mislead black voters.

The flyer reads, in part: "Vote!!! Bad Weather? No problem!!! If the weather is uncomfortable on election day (Saturday December 7th) Remember you can wait and cast your ballot on Tuesday December 10th."

With two Democratic U.S. senators, both of them Catholics, the state remains what it has always been: a Deep South anomaly. The ethnic and religious mix is different here. And as Louisiana slips in national economic indicators, its poverty may be influencing voting behavior.

During the campaign, Landrieu shied away from direct attacks on the Bush administration, fearing the personal popularity of a president whose approval rating in Louisiana stands above 70 percent. At one point, she even touted her record of having voted with the White House three-quarters of the time.

But today, emboldened by victory, she dropped her reticence. "People in Louisiana have maybe had it harder than most. They can recognize injustice," she said. "Because we are a poor state, people really do depend on the government. They are very disappointed at what they are seeing coming out of the White House, and they just expressed that anger."

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1 posted on 12/09/2002 1:29:21 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Am I missing the part of this article that says that W J Clinton did not show up in Leeezyanna so this HELPED the democrats!
2 posted on 12/09/2002 1:31:47 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Anyone have any info on that flyer? That seems a bit low even for a close campaign.
3 posted on 12/09/2002 1:35:55 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Read this.
4 posted on 12/09/2002 1:36:45 PM PST by geaux
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
"It just got out of control," said Silas Lee, a sociologist at Xavier University in New Orleans. "African American voters wanted a more positive message."

You mean like the NAACP sponsored ad depicting Dubya dragging a black man to his death behind a pick-up truck?

5 posted on 12/09/2002 1:38:14 PM PST by What Is Ain't
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To: KQQL
ping
6 posted on 12/09/2002 1:38:22 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Go ahead, keep worrying about a guy who's been out of office for two years. That lack of focus on the present will only help Democrats.
7 posted on 12/09/2002 1:38:34 PM PST by RonF
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To: geaux
Yes, a very impressive victory for an incumbent in a state that has a 3-1 dimocrat registration edge, and has not elected a republican senator in over 100 years. Impressive indeed.
8 posted on 12/09/2002 1:41:04 PM PST by joltinjoe
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Landrieu, who just a week ago seemed to fit the GOP blueprint's definition of a vulnerable incumbent, held off the challenge and won a convincing victory,...

Yeah, 51.5% to 48.5% is real convincing. BFD. Little Tommy Dasshole is still going to be the Minority Leader.

9 posted on 12/09/2002 1:41:35 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
They also conveniently failed to mention that Landrieu pledged to oppose taxpayer funded abortions, and to support legislation to protect human life starting at conception, on a Catholic Church questionnaire. Now that she's safely re-elected, we're supposed to forget that so she can vote pro-abortion.

Of course, she was lying in her claims of a secret sugar deal. If that's what turned the election around, then it shows how sleazy Demo-rat campaigns really are.
10 posted on 12/09/2002 1:42:31 PM PST by puroresu
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
We didn't outflank ourselves. The RATS brought in Donna Brazile, (who had the added benefit of being from Louisiana) and she performed a picture-perfect knock-and-drag on election day. It even included direct over-the-phone threats from Bill Clinton to hesitant black "leaders" a couple of days beforehand to "get out the vote or else. The GOP, on the other hand, completely disbanded their brilliant GOTV campaign after November 5th and just threw money at Terrell.
11 posted on 12/09/2002 1:43:50 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Zeroisanumber
Anyone have any info on that flyer? That seems a bit low even for a close campaign.

It's the first I've heard of it, and IMO it's much more likely to have been created by Democrats than Republicans.

12 posted on 12/09/2002 1:47:11 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: RonF
It is not I that worries about Clinton it should be the demokrats. Any lack of focus statement on the 'present' time is riduculous as it is still the Clinton's ( Senator Clinton) through McCauliffe that are still in the present and running the show. So I will point out; that is why they lost the majority. Their La. win means nothing but they corrupted and cheated. They are and were desparate.
13 posted on 12/09/2002 1:47:47 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
I thought it was a pretty good thing: The country is about evenly divided ( Pro/Anti Bush ), and the balance in the Senate reflects the national mood more accurately than a "flash-in-the-pan" Republican landslide would have done.

The Administration, instead of having a free pass , now has its work cut out for it - and that benefits the people as a whole.

14 posted on 12/09/2002 1:47:58 PM PST by genefromjersey
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To: RonF
The thing is, he did get the black vote out - and if the Dems figure out a way for Clinton to get out the black vote in a low-key fashion, we're going to have serious trouble in elections, particularly in places where we should win.

We don't have much margin for error here, and Lott made a BIG mistake which WILL show up in 2004 election ads. Count on it.
15 posted on 12/09/2002 1:48:23 PM PST by hchutch
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
We could avoid all this hair pulling, all these deep, deep analyses by digging out the one number between 1 and 100m that for some reason no one seems to want to see: the percentage of elections in US (or US Congress elections, if you want to narrow it down,) where challengers beat the incumbents. What is it? 10%, 23%? The Incumbent Party won, just as it had won a month ago, just like ti wins in most every dog catcher race! Fool me once, etc...

The otherwise statistics happy media somehow don't show us these numbers so as not to foster cynicism in the world's greatest political system, is my take on this...

16 posted on 12/09/2002 1:49:02 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: RonF
Will Landrieu help La. sugar farmers in any way?
17 posted on 12/09/2002 1:50:08 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
I heard some posts here critical of having ole Maxine Waters while the other side had Bush. Now today RUSHBO is spinning the likes like nobody can. Having Landrieu win was apparantly insignificant with him. Not only is the gov a joke the people talking it are as bad.
18 posted on 12/09/2002 1:50:32 PM PST by Digger
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
""It just got out of control," said Silas Lee, a sociologist at Xavier University in New Orleans. "African American voters wanted a more positive message."

Really ? I wonder how he'd explain the signs in some predominately black, New Orleans neighborhoods that read: Mary, if you don't respect us, don't expect us.

19 posted on 12/09/2002 1:50:51 PM PST by Darlin'
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To: hchutch
Yes, Lott's comments will be used to galvanize black voters in 2004. They stayed home in November in states like Missouri and Georgia and the Republicans won squeakers. The black vote turned out in Lousisiana and the Dems won.

This could be a pre-cursor of 2004. Its why Lott needs to step down. This is just his latest blunder. He should have stepped down before this.

If Lott remains as speaker I see it hurting the conservative cause and the Republicans chances in 2004.
20 posted on 12/09/2002 1:52:34 PM PST by Douglas
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To: geaux
Thanks. Good article, Terrell will be the next Governor of Louisiana.
21 posted on 12/09/2002 1:53:13 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Timesink
You are correct. Conservative and GOP activists in LA should hang their heads in shame. They got completely out-hussled by the RATS... our people actually believed that we had this win in the bank. Lazy, stupid, inept, and reprehensible.

Believe me, neither Talent, Coleman, Sununu or Chambliss -- among others -- would have been elected had we been this lazy in their respective states. We worked our asses off here in Minnesota, and I know others did elsewhere, too.
22 posted on 12/09/2002 1:53:47 PM PST by mwl1
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To: Timesink
A few points...first, Terrell is not the most effective campaigner/public speaker..she got better at it, but she was also tired at the end.....Landrieu is a machine...gotta give her credit for her energy...more importantly, the GOP gov, and the two candidates who Suzy defeated, didn't come out and strongly support her.....they sat on the fence, and the endorsements, when finally delivered, were weak.....if it had been a unified GOP effort from the get-go..it might have made a difference......the saving grace of this loss..and it sticks in my crawfish also....is that the GOP will work harder....and the Dems will delude themselves into thinking that they have a magic formula for victory...Mary won ONLY because of John Breaux.........and Breaux is a senator ONLY from LA, not the 19 other states the Dems have to defend in 04...
23 posted on 12/09/2002 1:54:02 PM PST by ken5050
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To: puroresu
Exactly, sugar farmers are no better off in any way. She was slick with the sugar BS.
24 posted on 12/09/2002 1:56:53 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Douglas
The thing is, it will make the racist label quite plausible - and the fact that "racism" claims are BS 90% of the time is meaningless. It's that 10% of the time that makes the BS stick.
25 posted on 12/09/2002 1:59:44 PM PST by hchutch
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Am I missing the part of this article that says that W J Clinton did not show up in Leeezyanna so this HELPED the democrats!

Rush analyzed this election extensively today. Rush said that the early turnout of voters was extremely low. It was obvious immediately to the Democrats that turnout from the black community ( they use the code words our base) was exceptionally low because of an ongoing feud between Landrieu and a Louisianna black leader (an Al Sharpton clone). This black leader had stated he would make no effort to turn out the vote for Landrieu. Apparently Donna Brazille arranged a conference call between Landrieu, this black leader and Bill Clinton. Clinton read him the riot act about his political future in the Democratic Party and he folded like a cheap Japanese camera. Turnout by blacks soared in the afternoon and the "pick-up and drop" operation went into high gear to get blacks to the polls until closing time.

26 posted on 12/09/2002 2:04:16 PM PST by hflynn
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To: hchutch
ITA. Lott has just thrown a monkey wrench around the republicans. If he had any integrity (I doubt he does) he's step down. For the good of the party.
27 posted on 12/09/2002 2:05:40 PM PST by Douglas
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Why is it that every time a Democrat wins an election, FR'ers are there to claim that it's because they ran a corrupt campaign and election? What evidence do you have that she cheated? Just because she won?
28 posted on 12/09/2002 2:06:24 PM PST by RonF
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To: hflynn
Exactly....that's the Dem's secret strategy in 19 Senate races in 2004...get a pro-life candidate who supporrts President Bush 74% of the time, and who can surgically graft themselves to John Breaux for 30 days........
29 posted on 12/09/2002 2:08:37 PM PST by ken5050
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!

The problem I have with that is that in the 5th Congressional District there was a reduction of some 66,000+ (28%) voters in the runoff as compared to the primary. Yet the Senate race had a net gain of 319 voters statewide. If the Senate race experienced a loss of similar size in the CD precincts then that is where Suzie lost the race in terms of votes.

It will be interesting to compare the votes for the Congressional race vs the votes for the Senate race in those precincts to see the turnout numbers.

30 posted on 12/09/2002 2:10:48 PM PST by deport
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To: RonF
What evidence do you have that she cheated?

Did you miss the part about lying about a "secret deal" by Bush to sell out the US sugar industry?

31 posted on 12/09/2002 2:12:32 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
I heard Breaux say MAry got 38% of the white vote on 12/7..

However, on 11/5 Mary only had 33% of the white vote
The break down for 12/7 was approx as follows....

@ 28% of the the total vote was black and 72% of the total vote was non-black..

Hence.....here is how Mary Got to 52%
black vote ...28% x 90% = 25%
Non -Black vote ...72% x 38% = 27%

Total for Mary 52%
32 posted on 12/09/2002 2:20:56 PM PST by KQQL
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
According to Limbaugh this morning the defining moment of the campaign did not occur until 1p.m. on election day. Prior to 1p.m., exists polls showed a narrow Republican victory.

Again, according to Limbaugh, just after lunch on Saturday, Bill Clinton and Donna Brazil phoned a local, black, Democratic leader and threatened his political future if he did not get out the black vote in one parrish.

By 4 p.m. that same day this heretofore unenthusiastic politician had delivered the critical votes from his previously unwilling machine.

Maybe the above, scathing critisism of the Republican campaign is not warranted.

33 posted on 12/09/2002 2:22:16 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: deport
So in the congressional race 66,000 Voters went MIA ...but showed up for the senate race....HUH?? This doesn't make sense..

Maybe W should have gone to Monroe too........Republicans might have felt left out ...Not happy W came to town...hence didn't show up to vote
34 posted on 12/09/2002 2:24:24 PM PST by KQQL
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To: deport
"All that talk about support for the president turned my stomach," Fields said. "To her credit, she changed all that in the runoff and worked hard to distinguish herself from the Republicans and really reached out to African-American voters. If she keeps up that attitude, only God knows what she can do.

MAry will be voting with Teddy now......

35 posted on 12/09/2002 2:31:51 PM PST by KQQL
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
"The momentum definitely shifted when we came out with the sugar issue," said Mitch Landrieu...

TRANSLATION: "Our lies worked again."

36 posted on 12/09/2002 2:42:48 PM PST by Illbay
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To: genefromjersey
I'm guessing your favorite Republican politician is Trent "I LIKE Being In The Minority" Lott.
37 posted on 12/09/2002 2:46:25 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Amerigomag
Terrell lost because :

1) She didn't get 65% or better of the white vote.
( Terrell only got 62% of the white vote)
2) Sugar Thing ..Was a big ISsue and the negative ads
went un-answered.........Mary said W screwed LA with
Steel Tarrifs and now he will Screw LA with Mexcian Sugar,,,
And White voters believed Mary)
3) Mary Out Campaigned Terrell and was more polished+
Breaux help worked for Mary )
4) Terrell was all over the map on abortion..
5) O'Neill resignation on Friday was bad for Terrell....It should have been after the election.
Karl Rove and Cheney should have known better that O'Neil was Sore loser and let the media know on Friday instead of Monday.

Plus Unemployment went up o.3% ..... in Dec
In NoV Unemployment had gone down o.1%
6) Terrell's debate performances were so-so..
7) W's Bump wore off by Saturday...he needed to be in LA on Thurday,,,not Tuesday...Karl Rove screwed up again.

38 posted on 12/09/2002 2:48:37 PM PST by KQQL
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To: hchutch
Sorry, there is no way that the voters are going to focus TWO YEARS FROM NOW on a flap-of-the-week throwaway line from Trent Lott. The great majority of voters don't even get the connection between Strom Thurmond and the "Dixiecrats" platform of 1948 (nine years before I was even born!)

Stop believing everything the Democrats' media consultants (a.k.a. the Big Three networks plus CNN) are telling you.

Good grief.

39 posted on 12/09/2002 2:49:17 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
It's not a Lie...US will get more Mexican Sugar.....now

W will make sure of it
40 posted on 12/09/2002 2:50:07 PM PST by KQQL
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To: Douglas
Read my comments above. Don't lose any sleep worrying about some stupid throwaway line made by Trent Lott, and its effect two years from now.

Most voters--never mind the type that vote Dim--would need elaborate explanations as to exactly who Trent Lott and Strom Thurmond are.

41 posted on 12/09/2002 2:51:23 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Who cares...blacks already vote 90-95%% for the RATS.......

so what diff will it make...???
42 posted on 12/09/2002 2:51:44 PM PST by KQQL
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To: Dan Day; RonF
That's not "cheating," that's lying. In politics, the former is only bad SOME of the time. The latter is ALWAYS acceptable.
43 posted on 12/09/2002 2:54:20 PM PST by Illbay
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To: KQQL
Well, it does make a difference if they show up to vote, vs. staying home.

I just don't think most people have any inkling of what the Dems are screaming about, and two years from now it'll be forgotten anyway.

Ho-hum.

44 posted on 12/09/2002 2:58:26 PM PST by Illbay
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To: KQQL
2) Sugar Thing ..Was a big ISsue and the negative ads went un-answered.........Mary said W screwed LA with Steel Tarrifs and now he will Screw LA with Mexcian Sugar,,, And White voters believed Mary)

I'll give you this one. The Bush we all know and love. 43 has also screwed his pooch among California conservatives in 2004 over another of his brilliant domestic policies .. open boarders.

I'll bet 43 is glad there's an electoral college.

45 posted on 12/09/2002 3:03:57 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Dan Day
No, I missed the part where it was proved that she was wrong. Not that I have any knowledge one way or another. But I take neither her assertions nor the Administration's denials for granted.
46 posted on 12/09/2002 3:04:37 PM PST by RonF
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To: KQQL

I don't know if there these MIAs voted in the Senate race or not until it's looked at on a precinct by precinct basis. But the Statewide Senate vote was only 319 voters larger than the primary vote. So those MIAs in the 5th CD either didn't vote at all or voted in some portion for the Senate race and left the CD race blank. My gut feeling is that they didn't show up period.... Thus the make up voters were from somewhere else within the state. Example, Orleans Parish had only a 6,200 vote increase in turnout this time over the primary. If they were conservative Republicans and didn't show then that is where the race was lost, imo.

47 posted on 12/09/2002 3:05:47 PM PST by deport
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Am I missing the part of this article that says that W J Clinton did not show up in Leeezyanna so this HELPED the democrats!

If you spend sometime in a news career covering sports and then transition to political news, it gives you a unique perspective.

There are many similarities.

For example you will note in sport that a team will come up with a game plan that works in the first half. Then at half time the other team makes adjustments. And in the second half does a lot better. This year's senate election had a half time. It happens a lot in sports. We just saw it happen in elections.

It is obvious the Democrats made adjustments. It is also logical that the team that was wining team was winning earlier did not change tactics and the losing team did.

The tactic changes are obvious in both races this year. They were obvious if we start the game in 2000. In 2000 Clinton was kept on the sidelines and Gore went left. They even booed boy scouts at the Democratic convention and even courted naderites. Clinton was not welcome anywhere in 2000 and Bush won close one.

So this time the Bush camp went to a much harder game in the Senate races. Candidates that can win and successful tactics of negative spots and positive candidates won the senate back. For the Democrats the tactical change was great. Clinton and Gore were everywhere to take on Bush in the rematch. Clinton and Gore got their butts knocked on the floor by Dubya and company on November 5. Then with a 30 day time out the Democrats changed strategy again. In Louisiana there was no Clinton, no Gore, no Daschle, no more. It was the song Dubya when he is right and us only when he is wrong that Landrieu sang. Landrieu ran on I will do what is right regardless of party. It was a new centrist Democratic tactic.... They were the new kinder Gentler Democrats. No Dammit Daschle Hammit at all. ONe this is your last campaign sneaked out and that was all.

What that means is the democrats now have an example of how to win. IT IS CENTER CENTER CENTER. Did I mention Center? It was the white vote that elected Landriew. Terrell needed 66 percent of the white vote. She did not get it.

So what does this mean for 2004. Well not much. To get the Democratic nomination the Candidate will have to go to the left. It will be the left being left all over the TV. It will be Democrat trashing Democrat for not being left enough. How well will Al Sharpton run? Could the Sharper Al win Michigan and South Carolina? Could the convention be a real convention with no Democrat having it sewn up by the convention? Look at the 2004 start. It is possible that Gephardt could win Iowa. Kerry might win New Hampshire and Sharpton could win South Carolina and Michigan... holy Toledo... Say What Bat Man?

No matter what happens the candidate will have a leftist image. So they can only move a little toward the center in the campaign. And will the magic presence of Al Sharpton help the Democrats in the fall of 2004.

I don't think it looks all that good for the Democrats.

When a Democrat runs on the platform that they vote with President Bush 75 percent of the time and demands that all name Democrat names stay away, that says a lot.

To win Landrieu had to run as a DINO

Edwards can play DINO but Sharpton will beat him in South Carolina.

Call it Strom Thurman's Revenge


48 posted on 12/09/2002 3:12:01 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
http://www.electionline.org/electionlinetoday.jsp
Zillions of links to vote fraud related news in many states....

49 posted on 12/09/2002 3:30:27 PM PST by backhoe
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