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The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster: When will we value our national interest?
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 12-10-02 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 12/10/2002 5:08:57 AM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 12/10/2002 5:08:57 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
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2 posted on 12/10/2002 5:15:38 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: SJackson
Yup, this is where the problem started. Put in place a varying immigration quota based on prior year usage of the system. Later discovered that everyone in Mexico is a "cousin" of everyone else so that family immigration can be utilized. Finally created a need for Teddy to formally author legislation to permit a block of Irish to immigrate since the hispanics and asians had effectively cut them out of the immigration share.

This discussion of the 1965 immigration act is about legal immigration only and does not address the shameful "look the other way" approach to the army of border crashers each year.
3 posted on 12/10/2002 5:23:53 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Alouette; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
4 posted on 12/10/2002 6:09:15 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
As bad as the 1965 "Immigration Act" was, Ted Kennedy's 1990 "Immigration Act" and signed by George Sr. was even worse. The bill raised legal quotas to nearly a million per year, established the diversity lottery which is responsible for the importing of terrorists from the Middle East, and started the H1-B program, the cause of the displacing of hundreds of thousands of native high tech workers over that of cheaper foreigners. All this while doing nothing to close the borders and stop illegal immigration.

Both of these bills have been disasters for the American people, it's obvious to most everyone. But will they ever be repealed? Not unless we stand up and make Congress do it.

5 posted on 12/10/2002 7:15:46 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
...........Both of these bills have been disasters for the American people, it's obvious to most everyone. But will they ever be repealed? Not unless we stand up and make Congress do it..............
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When we elect either democrats or republicans we get uncontrolled immigration. And Lord knows that we are throwing our votes away if we dare consider a third party candidate. Just ask most people here. Just how do we make congress do anything that they don't want to do?
6 posted on 12/10/2002 8:15:58 AM PST by JMP
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
As bad as the 1965 "Immigration Act" was, Ted Kennedy's 1990 "Immigration Act" and signed by George Sr. was even worse. The bill raised legal quotas to nearly a million per year, established the diversity lottery which is responsible for the importing of terrorists from the Middle East, and started the H1-B program, the cause of the displacing of hundreds of thousands of native high tech workers over that of cheaper foreigners. All this while doing nothing to close the borders and stop illegal immigration.
9 posted on 12/10/2002 8:34:16 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
In the short term I'm a pessimist. It will take years of heavy pressure just to remove the airheaded utopians who view America as the "First Universal Nation" from their position of authority in the conservative movement. By then the Left will have the numbers to capture most of the seats of poltical power and all the GOP's talk of conservative immigrants will be proven false, leaving us in a bind.
10 posted on 12/10/2002 11:45:49 AM PST by junta
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To: JMP
Just how do we make congress do anything that they don't want to do?

Granted it's not easy, both parties want mass immigration. The only thing I can think of is ratcheting up the pressure by protesting in the streets, in Washington, getting in their faces a little bit. That's all they understand anyway besides the dollar signs.

11 posted on 12/10/2002 1:44:23 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Joe Hadenuf
George Sr.

After watching him last night, it was clear the ole boy still doesn't get it.

12 posted on 12/10/2002 1:46:02 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Tancredo Fan; Aliska; Drill Alaska; Black Agnes; Joe Hadenuf; gubamyster; F16Fighter; dennisw; ...
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13 posted on 12/10/2002 3:28:19 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SJackson
I hope we have all learned our lesson. Never vote for a President from Texas. So far Texas is batting a big zero.
14 posted on 12/10/2002 3:49:25 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Oh, he gets it alright. For him, NAFTA and the ethnic drowning of the U.S. is exactly what he wants. The Return To Serfdom.
15 posted on 12/10/2002 3:55:54 PM PST by Regulator
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To: MissAmericanPie
Can You Change America? Part 2
16 posted on 12/10/2002 3:57:09 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Tailgunner Joe
A better question would seem, "When will we respect our Nationality?" A nation is not a game of musical chairs. The immigration law that went into effect in 1965 deliberately ignored who Americans were as a people. That makes absolutely no sense.

One can befriend the world, but still understand that we are unique, as others are unique. Pretending that we are all the same is an insult to all of us. It demeans everyone on the planet, by denying everyone on the planet the characteristics that make each unique. One of those characteristics is one's race and ethnicity. There are other characteristics, of course, also. But many of those fit patterns that correlate with one's race and ethnicity. Why the compulsion to deny this reality?!

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

17 posted on 12/10/2002 3:57:15 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: MissAmericanPie
I hope we have all learned our lesson. Never vote for a President from Texas. So far Texas is batting a big zero.

I am starting to agree. Lyndon Johnson Turned Viet Nam into a national disgrace killing a lot of our men in the process.

18 posted on 12/10/2002 4:15:01 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Regulator
Oh, he gets it alright. For him, NAFTA and the ethnic drowning of the U.S. is exactly what he wants.

Bush's one term was very productive then, because it was his policies that set all what's happening to us today in motion. He must very proud of his one world, globalist achievements.

He kept using the term last night "come together" (a song btw Lennon wrote to ridicule Ronald Reagan). What he should have been preaching was "Imagine".

20 posted on 12/10/2002 5:00:33 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Gosh, that's so warm and fuzzy! Spookdaddy telling us all to "just get along!".

Who knew that he was really a hippie all along?!

I feel so warm and fuzzy, I plan to go right out and hug the next drug smuggler I see!

24 posted on 12/10/2002 5:38:35 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
I feel so warm and fuzzy, I plan to go right out and hug the next drug smuggler I see!

Lol, yeah they want us to all hold hands and sing "we are the world". No thanks, not for me. If I want to live in Mexico or Somalia I'll move there.

25 posted on 12/10/2002 5:52:28 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"we are the world"

Now you've done it! That damn song will be playing over and over in my head all night! Oh NO!

Have a good night.. :^)

26 posted on 12/10/2002 6:00:03 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Ohioan
Why the compulsion to deny this reality?!

The most universal characteristic of the liberal is a sense of self-loathing. Call it low self-esteem, if you will. For whatever reason, liberal seem to hate their own race, gender, class, and nationality.

27 posted on 12/10/2002 6:20:43 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"Ted Kennedy's 1990 "Immigration Act" and signed by George Sr."

What is this fetish all about for Teddy the Drunk by the Bush family? The 90's debacle, and recently Dubya OKs Teddy's request of $9,000,000,000 earmarked for the socialist NEA and public schools.

Senior was the definitive RINO and Mr. 'New World Order'.

And who did he send to the Supreme Court again?? Oh that's right -- "conservative" David Souter...

Upon assessing the mere tip of the iceberg in retrospect, this "Republican" has easily wreaked untold damage to America.

28 posted on 12/10/2002 8:17:20 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The most universal characteristic of the liberal is a sense of self-loathing. Call it low self-esteem, if you will. For whatever reason, liberal seem to hate their own race, gender, class, and nationality.

I think you can include more than a few so-called conservatives to that also.

29 posted on 12/10/2002 10:37:20 PM PST by WRhine
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To: F16Fighter
And who did he send to the Supreme Court again?? Oh that's right -- "conservative" David Souter...

I'll never forget that fiasco, or should I say hoodwink. Bush Sr. obviously knew the inside dope on that "below the radar" stealth commie. This bit of Bush history does not give me much confidence that Junior, despite his pledge to nominate conservative justices in the mold of Justice Scalia, will do anything other than put forth more Souter clones.

30 posted on 12/10/2002 10:48:40 PM PST by WRhine
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To: SJackson
Americans don't realize how many immigrants used to return home, about one-third of the immigrants from Europe returned home permanently because they couldn't cut it here, we've eliminated that with welfare and all the government programs, now we keep the ones who can't find work or be self-sufficient.
31 posted on 12/11/2002 5:50:48 AM PST by FITZ
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32 posted on 01/20/2004 5:37:06 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SJackson

BTTT


33 posted on 08/25/2004 6:42:53 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SJackson

BTTT


34 posted on 08/25/2004 6:42:57 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Mr. Mojo

Thanks, bumps are allowed within two years, you both made it!


35 posted on 08/25/2004 7:40:09 PM PDT by SJackson (You'd be amazed the number of people who wanna introduce themselves to you in the men's room J.Kerry)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

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36 posted on 02/08/2005 6:00:09 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SJackson
The Kennedy's (Daddy Joseph, John, Bobby, and Teddy) cumultive influence upon the United States has done what WWII, the Cold War, and a few H-Bombs could NOT do; Destroy America from within.

And they say the Kennedy family is cursed? THEY are a curse upon America.

37 posted on 02/08/2005 6:38:00 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: SJackson

America became a fundamentally middle-class society, and our many European ethnic groups were brought together into a common national culture.

** Why doesn't the author of this piece just say what he really wants to say? White people?


38 posted on 02/08/2005 6:39:33 AM PST by cyborg (Department of Homelife Security threat level is GREEN.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Good grief. This thread is old. Why are you bumping it? LOL


39 posted on 02/08/2005 6:43:10 AM PST by cyborg (Department of Homelife Security threat level is GREEN.)
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Just used it for reference on another thread.
40 posted on 02/08/2005 6:46:24 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Okay. I remember an essay very similar to this one in a much later thread. Someone must be plaigarizing or everyone is using the same basic argument.


41 posted on 02/08/2005 6:49:11 AM PST by cyborg (Department of Homelife Security threat level is GREEN.)
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Senate floor manager and Camelot knight-errant Ted Kennedy assured jittery senators that "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually."

Shortsighted as they were, at least the Senators back then were "jittery" upon contemplating the probable consequences of this Act. Nowadays most of the idiots in that august body (on both sides of the aisle) actually welcome the invasion.

42 posted on 02/08/2005 7:07:22 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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"At least the Senators back then were 'jittery' upon contemplating the probable consequences of this Act. Nowadays most of the idiots in that august body (on both sides of the aisle) actually welcome the invasion."

Yeah, "jittery" was at least a sign they recognized the Immigration Act was a big gamble...because it was clearly stupid.

And today? If it helps destroy the heritage and traditions of the good ol' USA, our Senators vote FOR it -- yes, from BOTH sides of the aisle...

And just today I heard on the radio in West Hollywood it's citizens want to erect a WWII memorial for the troops...Soviet troops. I kid you not.

43 posted on 02/08/2005 9:35:20 AM PST by F16Fighter
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"This thread is old. Why are you bumping it?"

It's germaine in that it helps explains the genesis of the chaotic immigration problems the country are NOW addressing...

And the reinforcement that the Kennedys single-handedly have always conspired to destroy the U.S. from within.

44 posted on 02/08/2005 9:40:24 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: cyborg; JustAnotherSavage

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1343361/posts?page=3#3


45 posted on 02/14/2005 10:00:48 PM PST by Coleus (Oppose Amnesty for Illegal Aliens http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1335643/posts)
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To: Mr. Mojo; HiJinx; Travis McGee; F16Fighter; wardaddy; hedgetrimmer; Squantos
Chief among national concerns was total numeric immigration. Senate floor manager and Camelot knight-errant Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, assured jittery senators that "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually."

It's time to bump this thread to the top for all to see the danger lurking ahead. Now that we know Kennedy and McCain are writing a new immigration policy, we need to raise the roof to keep them from succeeding. Kennedy was wrong then, and he's wrong now.

The reason I pinged all of you is that I know you are all interested in stopping this madness! I hope it was OK. :-)

46 posted on 05/06/2005 8:15:02 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: NRA2BFree

Thanks for bumping.. I'd never seen this.. Thanks. :)


47 posted on 05/06/2005 9:10:53 PM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: SJackson

bump


48 posted on 05/06/2005 9:16:30 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: JesseJane
Thanks for bumping.. I'd never seen this.. Thanks. :)

You're very welcome. Please pass it on to everyone you know, including your Congressmen or women, and especially to your Senators. We need to show them how badly the last one that Kennedy had a hand in failed! We need to stop ALL immigration now. At least until we get all the illegals deported.

49 posted on 05/06/2005 9:23:57 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: NRA2BFree

Will do. Kennedy and McCain are a lethal combination IMO. Freedom of Political Speech hosed by McCain, and now, comprimising the integrity of votes via immigration policy. The American Patriot/Citizen/Taxpayer voice, will be shut down. This can not be allowed to stand. Thanks again.


50 posted on 05/06/2005 9:56:49 PM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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