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It's time to release Jonathan Pollard.
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| Dec. 10, 2002
| Sara Levinsky Rigler
Posted on 12/10/2002 4:51:14 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Poohbah
"They ain't asking us to make that choice."If I understand you correctly (and I may not), I have to disagree. Releasing Pollard sends exactly the wrong message to other greedy and traitorous intelligence employees. In addition, nobody knows how much more sensitive information he could still disseminate if set at large. IMO, he can never be released without courting unacceptable national security risks.
To: Bonaparte
If I understand you correctly (and I may not), I have to disagree.They can ASK all they want, just like my daughter can ask for all kinds of things I don't think she should have.
We merely have to say "no" a lot until the point is moot.
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posted on
12/10/2002 7:14:30 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: Poohbah
I'll say this, Poobah, your analogy to a child is not far from the mark. If Israel got its wish, the only power in the world that can save them from certain destruction would be weakened. Hard to believe that Pollard could be so important to them that they would be this obnoxious. But then again, these are the people who elected Barak then sent him out to give away the store.
To: Bonaparte
Israel's experience as a modern nation-state barely exceeds fifty years...ours exceeds two hundred, and we're still learning how things work.
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posted on
12/10/2002 8:08:31 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: sobieski
"...bread and water?"Have a heart, sobieski. Let him eat matzo crackers and water blessed by a rabbi.
To: Nachum
People are getting mixed up here...
The fact that other people got off easier than Pollard does not mean Pollard is getting slammed too hard...
It means the handling of the Pollard case is the model by which other espionage prosecutions should be judged.
This is just like when activists start complaining that blacks get too much punishment for violent crime. Well the answer, if you want fairness, is to punish the other people harder, not to lighten up on perps who deserve their punishment.
To: Nachum
I have to say that the prison conditions posited here don't sound believable. Every inmate has access to the prison law library (if he doesn't have pro bono counsel outside) and can sue in Federal court for guard misdeeds, cruel or unusual conditions or lack of medical care. So I'm discounting all that whining.
However, let's assume it was all a good-hearted mistake--like the strafing and bombing of the Liberty by the Israelis in 1967. Life isn't fair when you cross certain lines. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you.
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posted on
12/10/2002 9:21:29 PM PST
by
wildbill
To: Nachum
What a load of BS! Whoever wrote this doesn't seem to have much regard for the 8th Commandment. To pick just one preposterous assertion, just exactly how is he "not permitted to speak Hebrew"? Maybe a guard comes along and stuffs a gag in his mouth every time he starts to utter a Hebrew word? Yeah, sure.
Pollard should be released from prison on the very same day that every innocent person who died as a result of his treason comes back to life.
To: Nachum
Pollard was a TRAITOR!!! The Shas and neoKehanites who support that fool can kiss my
tuckas for believing otherwise.
BTW: Whether you give secrets to England, Israel, Poland or Equitorial Guinea does not matter. You are a traitor, period
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posted on
12/10/2002 9:29:40 PM PST
by
Clemenza
To: wildbill
"Every inmate has access to the prison law library (if he doesn't have pro bono counsel outside)"Pollard had some of the best legal talent around. One of his attorneys was Ted Olson.
To: Nachum
OK, he's a spy and should remain in jail for life. Clear enough?
To: Nachum
Dear Sarah, BITE ME!!!
He stays in jail until he rots!!!
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posted on
12/10/2002 11:10:18 PM PST
by
Ronin
To: Nachum
Spies are supposed to be exchanged with the adversary nation.
Who does Israel have to trade?
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posted on
12/10/2002 11:17:40 PM PST
by
fire_eye
To: eddie willers
I agree. This sounds like the kind of concocted fantasy someone would put together, knowing it can never be proven one way or another, to get sympathy from someone else.
I have no doubt that anti-semitism exists, but I can't imagine any guard saying anything like this. Hokum.
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posted on
12/11/2002 1:29:56 AM PST
by
Ronin
To: Nachum
Release the spy? Bullshit, hang this scum.
To: Ronin
She claims he has expressed remorse. I don't remember it. And his stuff ended up in USSR. Even Janet Reno lobbied to keep him in the can.
All this other stuff posted is disinformation re the gassing comment and the restrictions of rights among others.
To: Nachum
Mr Pollard sold out his country, no less than the Rosenbergs, the Greenglasses, Sobel, Fuchs, et al and etc.. etc.
There should be absolutely no free passes given for scoundrels and traitors to America just because they are Jews.
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posted on
12/11/2002 4:39:05 AM PST
by
rmvh
To: Bonaparte
Thankfully the Russians in Pope's case applied a decent enough mercy I do not see in some here.
Today as I write, in SE Pennsylvania, we have the second winter storm. a dangerous mix of rain, sleet and ice. Novice drivers are out there driving as if the roads are dry, lights off. I call kind of bold behaviour in the absence of experience "building a house for the best day of summer."
The more experienced drivers -- lights on -- are paced and very watchful even where the road is just wet and not icey -- mercifully for themselves and anyone out there with them.
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posted on
12/11/2002 7:00:56 AM PST
by
bvw
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