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INSIDE STORY OF SOUTH DAKOTA VOTING CONTROVERSY (FRAUD!!)
FoxNews ^ | 12/10/02 | Brit Hume

Posted on 12/13/2002 3:40:09 AM PST by Elkiejg

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

This is a partial transcript of Special Report with Brit Hume, December 9, that has been edited for clarity.

BRIT HUME, HOST: When incumbent Democratic Senator Tim Johnson was re-elected in South Dakota by a scant 524 votes, a margin provided by three precincts, largely on Indian reservations in the western part of the state, there was suspicion of fraud. After all, there had been a federal investigation, but not an indictment, of pre-election registration efforts on Indian reservations.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: brithume; dncfraud; sd
The RNC and Thune may have dropped this issue, but we need to keep the pressure on. Johnson should NOT be seated in the Senate UNTIL this fraud case is completely cleared.
1 posted on 12/13/2002 3:40:09 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg
I am not shocked at all that they were able to substantiate fraud in the S.D. Senate election. Unfortunately, this Lott situation has detracted in part from scrutiny of this election.

I was shocked to learn that you don't even have to sign anything to vote in South Dakota. That right there just invites fraud. Even in Hitlery's "home" state of NY, they made you sign the voting rolls to match signatures to your voting card that you registered with. Unreal.
2 posted on 12/13/2002 3:52:04 AM PST by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: Elkiejg
There are dozens and dozens of cases of voters coming up to Democratic officials and saying my name is X. And they'll say, "Your name's not on the list." "OK, my name is Y. How about that?" "Not there." "Do you have a Z there?"

...and once again the wimp party candidate goes down to defeat.

3 posted on 12/13/2002 3:56:54 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
I was shocked to learn that you don't even have to sign anything to vote in South Dakota. That right there just invites fraud. Even in Hitlery's "home" state of NY, they made you sign the voting rolls to match signatures to your voting card that you registered with. Unreal.

No signing of names here in Massachusetts. You walk up, give your street address, the woman reads a name. You say "that's me" and she hands you a ballot with only two names on it: Kennedy and Kerry. -- OK the part about Kennedy and Kerry isn't entirely true but the voting procedure is. I've lived in many states -- never seen anything like it.

4 posted on 12/13/2002 4:02:09 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Elkiejg
I wonder,if the Communist Party pulled any of these antics in the presidential election in 2000? Bush probably beat AlGore by many more votes than it will ever be known. The communist party will continue to steal elections, until, the media reports the news like it should, or until they prosecute the people involved.

Looks like they will steal elections for a long time.

5 posted on 12/13/2002 4:06:17 AM PST by auggy
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To: Elkiejg
while I am sure the dems cheated thune played it perfectly he was robbed and he knows it but whenever you challenge a result you are damaged politically he looks gracious his base is pissed and there just so happens to be another senator from that state up for re-election in 2004 who just happens to be a dim. Personally tommy d better run for the prez because I think thune has got him in his sights and his gooses is cooked
6 posted on 12/13/2002 4:11:07 AM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: rhombus
How many Pubbie Congress Critters are there from Taxachusetts? It's a shock Romney and Weld could ever get elected in that state.
7 posted on 12/13/2002 4:12:09 AM PST by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
I agree with you that tommy d will lose to Thune in the next Senate election - BUT - we're on thin ice in the Senate NOW. If it can be proved that Johnson really did not win the election due to fraud, then Thune should be seated now. In one way this could be a smart move by the GOP - don't challenge, but let the reporters (honest ones like York) and lawyers find the fraud and hopefully the Senate would then refuse to install Johnson. May my dreams come true!!!
8 posted on 12/13/2002 4:16:24 AM PST by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg; Congressman Billybob; sweetliberty
The RNC and Thune may have dropped this issue, but we need to keep the pressure on. Johnson should NOT be seated in the Senate UNTIL this fraud case is completely cleared.

Each one of us should write to our Senators and tell them we want them to refuse to seat Johnson and even Lautenberg, due to "voter irregularities" and illegal means by which it appears that they took office. Anybody here have a format we can use?

9 posted on 12/13/2002 4:16:59 AM PST by alwaysconservative
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To: Elkiejg
Byron York is a credible journalist; this one should be looked at very carefully. This may have been in the mill for some time, and why Thune didn't call for recount. Could this be why Lott is now a distraction?
10 posted on 12/13/2002 4:23:05 AM PST by katze
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To: Elkiejg
I find it strange that a remark from Lott which was not specific in stating racism made more of an upheaval and outrage than this voting fraud in South Dakota, and in my opinion, Louisiana, as well......It's strange Landrieu was trailing up until the last minute and surged ahead miraculously just as the polls were about to close.
11 posted on 12/13/2002 4:43:27 AM PST by Uff Da
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To: sweetliberty; Budge; ForGod'sSake; stop_the_rats
FYI ping: More on S.D. voter fraud to add to FReepers Against Voter Fraud archives.....

[partial transcript of Special Report with Brit Hume (with Byron York, National Review)]:

. . .there were many, many Democrats from out of state as part of this force of 10,000 lawyers. And they did a number of things that were -- some of which could conceivably be illegal, some could be just questionable that resulted in Tim Johnson getting more votes.

One of the things that they did, which appears to be a violation of South Dakota law, is they essentially set up get-out-the-vote operations inside the polling places. Now South Dakota law is, as in most other places, says you can't do that inside a polling place. You have to do it someplace far away from it.

12 posted on 12/13/2002 4:46:05 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: TheLion
see my ping #12 (inadvertently left you out).
13 posted on 12/13/2002 4:46:42 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Elkiejg
Nothing will come of this from SD state officials. See current NRO article by York, The South Dakota Vote: Who Will Investigate?. Too much worry about "viability" amongst the people responsible for the investigation.

However,.....

Nothing to stop Attorney General Ashcroft from ordering a federal investigation for violations of the Voting Rights Act.

14 posted on 12/13/2002 4:59:00 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: Elkiejg; GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY; Straight Vermonter; rhombus; auggy; TheRedSoxWinThePennant; ...
this is boilerplate DNC exported and sponsored Fraud .... just look here at Operation Big Vote:

Welcome to "Operation Big Vote," a non-Democratic Party effort ~ WSJ.

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The "Jersey Plan" .....

NEWARK DISPATCH The New Republic

Knock and Drag
by Ryan Lizza

Post date 11.09.00 | Issue date 11.20.00

Regena Thomas is not a speechwriter or a campaign manager. She doesn't craft political ads or appear on the Sunday talk shows. Even among political junkies, she's virtually unknown. But she's one of the most important Democratic Party operatives in the country. In fact, Thomas—along with others like her—is a big reason the Democrats have now exceeded expectations in three consecutive national elections.

Thomas gets black voters to the polls. With her help and $65 million, Jon Corzine won a New Jersey Senate seat this week; Al Gore took the state's 15 electoral votes going away. And Thomas's turnout operation, developed in New Jersey, has been replicated to similar effect across the country. Programs in Philadelphia and Detroit helped Gore win crucial swing states Pennsylvania and Michigan. In New York, Hillary Clinton's turnout program helped her crush Rick Lazio by twelve points, with black turnout increasing 2 percent relative to the 1998 Senate race. In all-important Florida, black turnout jumped from 10 percent in 1996 to 16 percent this year, even though blacks make up just 13 percent of the voting-age population. In Missouri, another swing state, black turnout jumped seven points from 1996. "Black turnout was astronomical," says Thomas, who, in addition to New Jersey, worked on turnout programs in Missouri, Delaware, Michigan, Florida, and Virginia. "Our margins of victory were in urban areas."

Democrats have a simple phrase that sums up their voter-turnout effort: "knock and drag." A crew of paid workers storms through predominantly black neighborhoods and coaxes, cajoles, or browbeats every registered voter to the polls. It's a form of political activity that was well-known in the big-city, white-ethnic machines of the past but has only recently emerged as a key to black turnout. In 1989, the late Ron Brown, then the newly appointed chairman of the Democratic National Committee, introduced a revolutionary way to conduct Democratic campaigns, which he called the "coordinated campaign." It required all the candidates on the Democratic ticket in each state to pool a portion of their resources for a joint effort to turn out Democratic voters. In 1989 test races in New Jersey and Virginia, the plan was a startling success, and it became the model used to elect Bill Clinton and Al Gore in 1992. After the 1994 Republican landslide, when the Democratic base stayed home, the party refined the concept, dispatching a team of consultants to New Jersey to poll and conduct focus groups with black voters. "The reason that we came to New Jersey is that New Jersey's African American voters have a reputation for being historically one of the toughest African American electorates in the country," says Ron Lester, a black pollster and Corzine consultant. In 1996, Thomas put the model to work for Democratic Representative Robert Torricelli, who was locked in a dead-heat Senate race with Republican Richard Zimmer. But on Election Day Torricelli won by ten points. His margin came almost entirely from black voters. New Jersey Democrats had found the key to electoral victory.

The following year, applying the turnout techniques of the Torricelli campaign, Democrat Jim McGreevey came from nowhere to within 26,000 votes of unseating popular Governor Christie Todd Whitman, with Whitman's share of the black vote dropping eight points from her 1993 race. A study comparing the tight 1997 race to Whitman's 1993 victory over Democrat Jim Florio—who had no black turnout program—is treated like a state secret within the party. "It's remarkable," says Corzine campaign manager Stephan DeMicco, who declined to share a copy of the study with me. "It's got too much strategic power for us.... The study of '93 to '97 has resulted in whole new approaches to electoral targeting for us. The lessons that we learned from that study ... are being applied in many other states now."

"We actually call it ... the New Jersey Plan," says Thomas, who, like DeMicco, is a veteran of New Jersey campaigns going back to 1996. "When we go to Georgia, they will tell you, it's the New Jersey Plan." Thomas, along with three other prominent black Democratic women—Gore campaign manager Donna Brazile; Bill Clinton's political director, Minyon Moore; and Allison McLaurin of the Democratic Governor's Association—has taken the lead in promoting the turnout model within the party. The four call themselves "The Colored Girls Club."

Two nights before Election Day, I find Thomas in a tiny office in downtown Newark. Scattered about are signs reading AFRICAN-AMERICANS FOR GORE-LIEBERMAN and STAY OUT THE BUSHES. On the floor are two six-inch stacks of checks made out in the amounts of $50 and $75—daily pay for part-time and full-time campaign workers, respectively. At her desk, Thomas is poring over pages and pages of numbers on what are called "vote goal sheets." It looks for all the world like a thrown-together, backroom operation.

But, despite its crude, low-tech appearance, Thomas's procedure is very sophisticated. "We start with this," Thomas says, tossing me a thick report titled "Electoral Targeting With Vote Goals." It comes from a Washington-based organization called the National Committee for an Effective Congress (NCEC), a little-known, left-leaning operation that provides the Democratic Party and labor unions with electoral data. Ncec's state reports include vital information about the voting history and trends of every precinct. In addition, they provide Thomas with a special precinct-by-precinct report on African American and Latino voting patterns. Using the two reports, Thomas decides which precincts to apply the base turnout model to; then, she develops a vote goal for each of those precincts on Election Day. "This is their playbook, their bible," she says, showing me a list of targeted precincts. "All my municipal coordinators have this." The sheet shows each precinct's registered voters, turnout history, Democratic performance, and, most important, vote goal. Precincts where turnout is low but Democratic performance is high are marked in red, since they constitute prime knock-and-drag territory on Election Day. Thomas points out Atlantic City's Ward One, Precinct Two as an example: Historically, 82 percent of the precinct's vote is Democratic, but the turnout is a relatively low 40 percent. "I got to bring that [40 percent figure] up," she says.

Once targeted districts are identified, Thomas begins a pre-program consisting of direct mail, phone calls, and visits to voters' homes. In the precinct mentioned above, for example, the Democrats sent six mailings to the 799 households that ncec had identified there. Crafting the mailings constituted a challenge, because Gore generated only tepid support among African Americans and George W. Bush proved a difficult man to demonize. And so Democrats did what they so often do when it comes to the black vote: They called the Republicans racist. One flyer featured Bush against the backdrop of a Confederate flag. Mail on behalf of Corzine said his opponent, Bob Franks, "thinks it's OK to teach our kids in trailers" and "will be hazardous to your family's health." But the most effective piece of mail sent to black voters targeted a Republican who isn't even running this year: It showcased the infamous picture of a smiling Whitman frisking a black man with his arms spread against a wall. "Republicans Like Governor Whitman Think Racial Profiling Is a Joke," the caption read.

In addition to these mailings, Thomas hit black voters with live phone calls urging them to vote. On the Monday before the election, voters were given a reminder call; on Election Day itself, a massive phone bank operated from 8:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. "Those phones are on a continual cycle," Thomas says. "The only way [a voter] comes out of the cycle is if [he] answers the phone." When a district is performing below Thomas's expectations, she can immediately retarget the phones, increasing calls to that area.

All this is supplemented by a radio and TV campaign that reaches saturation levels in the days leading up to the election. To listen to hip-hop and R&B stations the day before Election Day is to experience relentless political bombardment. "Republicans will roll back the progress Clinton has achieved," cautions one ad. In another, Jesse Jackson urges voters to take Tuesday off from work, warning, "All that Dr. King achieved can be overturned in one Supreme Court session." Minutes later Hillary Clinton is on the air talking about racial profiling and insisting, "If you stick with me, I'll stick with you." Next up is her husband, the president, with a paid ad making the case for Gore, Joe Lieberman, Corzine, and Hillary. Seconds later, Bill Clinton is back on the same station, this time for a live interview. "When they target the black community," says Thomas aide Rahman "Rock" Muhammad, "they target the black community."

The night before the election, I tag along on a bus trip to put up posters in Newark. The organization doing the postering is called the Labor Action Committee, a group of black turnout specialists that the Corzine campaign has hired to rack up huge margins in majority-black cities in Essex County, such as Newark and Orange. The Labor Action Committee is run by James Benjamin, a union man and veteran of New Jersey campaigns who decided to privatize his operation and cash in on the Corzine spending spree.

Volunteers seem a thing of the past, at least in the Corzine campaign, which essentially operated as a low-paying jobs program for thousands of people across New Jersey. Where exactly all these workers came from became a campaign issue in the final days of the race, when The New York Times discovered that many were being shipped in from homeless shelters and drug-rehab centers in Pennsylvania. Most of the men I spent time with had no discernible affinity for Gore, Corzine, or any other Democrat. Nor is there much in the way of on-the-job cheer: During the ride to Newark, the team leader, Bruce, scolds everyone because two staple guns went missing the night before. "No one is getting paid if one is missing tonight," he says. He warns the workers that they can be easily replaced because "there are plenty of folks who want to do what we do." When he asks if there are any questions, the only response is, "When do we get paid?" Later, an argument breaks out on the bus over who is assigned to what job. Apparently those who put up posters earn $5 more than those who distribute literature, and several men who want to do poster detail are told they can't. "You can't even buy a bag of weed with five dollars," a guy behind me laughs.

But, in the end, the blanket coverage—the mail, calls, ads, and posters—is still only a warm-up for the ground game that Thomas has planned for 559 African American precincts on Election Day. I spend November 7 with Benjamin's Labor Action Committee, which has 39 vehicles and hundreds of paid workers covering Essex County.

The operation works like this: Benjamin assigns a watcher to the polls in each targeted district; those poll watchers report vote counts back to headquarters every two hours. There, in the "count room," staffers monitor the returns and decide which precincts are meeting their goals and which aren't. When a precinct is underperforming, Benjamin can increase phone calls to people in that precinct or send in a team of "flushers" to knock-and-drag voters to the polls. Meanwhile, sound trucks roam the targeted precincts, playing music and urging people to go to the polls.

Things go smoothly throughout the morning and early afternoon, with most precincts meeting or exceeding expectations. But, at about 2:30 p.m., Benjamin gets a phone call that throws him into a panic. Rushing into the phone-bank room, he yells, "All calls into Newark! Turnout is not as high as it should be." Minutes later, he begins sending teams into Newark and nearby Irvington. "We're going to do a pullout," he announces. We jump into a minivan and race to a satellite office in Irvington, where we are met by dozens of Benjamin's workers. Benjamin shouts a request into his cell phone, and 50 students from Seton Hall University are on their way to reinforce his ranks. Benjamin collects everyone in a parking lot and dispatches them into the field in small teams. "Understand the mission," he instructs his flushers. "The mission is to get a registered voter out of their home and to the polls. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in very bad shape. I want you to load up on everything that moves." He then takes aside a sound-truck driver and traces a route for him to follow. Minutes later, the teams are blanketing the streets, knocking on doors and dragging out voters.

After Benjamin has dispersed his forces, he takes me with him for a quick check of the other field offices, including one responsible for turning out the vote in Newark's housing projects. (In one of these projects, Corzine's outreach effort consisted largely of having his photo taken with a popular resident nicknamed Big Mama. "It's simple: Take a picture of Jon and Big Mama," Thomas explained to the Newark Star-Ledger, "put it on a flier. Nothing fancy.")

I return to Thomas's headquarters around 6:00 p.m. to find her laughing and talking on the phone. Having left the Newark operation to Benjamin, she spent the day in the southern part of the state, strengthening the turnout effort in places like Trenton. "I just got back from South Jersey," she says into the receiver. "There's a precinct down there that never ever got over ninety-two [voters]. They were at one hundred two at one p.m." When I tell her about the trouble in Newark, she phones the Corzine war room and has the latest results sent over. They show that at 5:00 p.m. all her precincts were on target to meet or exceed their goals. She has just helped win New Jersey for Gore and elect Corzine to the U.S. Senate.

In fact, Thomas tells me, those were just her public vote goals. She actually has two sets of targets: the set she gave to her coordinators and a set with even higher vote goals that she kept to herself. Well, not completely to herself; she privately challenged Benjamin to meet the higher goals. "Me and Benjamin have a thousand-dollar bounty internally on this," she admits. When I ask if she owes Benjamin $1,000, she smiles and nods her head.

Copyright 2000, The New Republic

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15 posted on 12/13/2002 5:00:35 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elkiejg
I agree with you. Maybe the excessive focus on Lott is to take off interest in this story?
16 posted on 12/13/2002 5:02:43 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Elkiejg
Iwould like to see much more emphasis on voter fraud especially on attemptes to discount the votes of our military.
17 posted on 12/13/2002 5:18:41 AM PST by Dante3
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
Personally tommy d better run for the prez because I think thune has got him in his sights and his gooses is cooked

If Incumbent Daschle runs for re-election, I think he'll wipe the floor with Mr. Thune.

18 posted on 12/13/2002 5:23:41 AM PST by Coop
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To: Elle Bee
Please keep me on your ping list. In '96, I had a huge awakening about vote fraud, and it finally dawned on me how
Clinton was elected not once, but twice. With the exception of Zell Miller, amazes me how a Democrat can be elected without vote fraud.
19 posted on 12/13/2002 5:25:24 AM PST by katze
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To: Elkiejg
the Senate would then refuse to install Johnson
20 posted on 12/13/2002 5:27:13 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Coop
If Incumbent Daschle runs for re-election, I think he'll wipe the floor with Mr. Thune.

whats your basis I am not saying your wrong but tommy has been the worst sen majority leader in senate history, not to mention his 38% approval rating and bush runs about 70%
21 posted on 12/13/2002 5:28:10 AM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Elle Bee
Black pride is a mighty motivator.

So's money to a derelict....

22 posted on 12/13/2002 5:36:20 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: UPIDC
SD vote fraud ping...
23 posted on 12/13/2002 6:26:57 AM PST by eureka!
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To: backhoe
FYI ping.
24 posted on 12/13/2002 6:28:47 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Elle Bee; sweetliberty; Budge; TheLion
Thanks, Elle Bee, very much for posting that article....and links. Too long to get into till later tonight or over the weekend...however, I did go google quickly and thought this would be a good link to post, too:

NCEC website (for future reference):

today NCEC is a vital force in American Politics. NCEC supports progressive candidates who fight for the issues we believe in, like freedom of choice, separation of church and state, gun control, equal rights, and environmental protection.

Some names, like Feinstein and Kennedy, you may already know and support. But many NCEC candidates run campaigns with tight budgets and need every bit of help they can get to beat the Religious Right- dominated Republican Party.

That's a rather broad sweep of the brush about who "dominates" the Republican party.....

26 posted on 12/13/2002 6:43:09 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
I agree with Coop--the voting scandals are now out in
lonely rural areas--something that Republicans can't
seem to fix -VOTER FRAUD --Daschole lose??? not with
the Demonrat lawyers doing the "counting" by the way
the bigger fraud in South Dak.--more people voted than
LIVED in those counties!! as per the 2000 census!!
27 posted on 12/13/2002 6:58:33 AM PST by mj1234
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
whats your basis I am not saying your wrong but tommy has been the worst sen majority leader in senate history, not to mention his 38% approval rating and bush runs about 70%

Dasshole's a powerful leader with high name recognition, very popular among South Dakotans. If Thune could not beat freshman Tim Johnson, in an off-Presidential year (where turnout tends to favor the GOP), I think Thune will get beaten handily by a multi-term Dem leader running during a Presidential election.

28 posted on 12/13/2002 7:22:13 AM PST by Coop
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To: Elkiejg; EternalVigilance
Would someone plese esplane something to me about the status of American Injuns: It is my understanding that they don't pay income tax and are allowed to freely engage in gambling on their reservations. So, why are they allowed to VOTE!?! Either our native indians ARE US citizens and subject to ALL of our laws like the rest of us, or they're not part of the process. They shouldn't be allowed to have their cake and eat it too.

BTW, I agree - Johnson SHOULD NOT be seated by the Repubbie controlled sinate - and niether should Lautenberg. The main US Supreme Court case is still open on the NJ situation in case y'all didn't know. The one they turned down was for an "emergency" decision when the torch went out.

29 posted on 12/13/2002 8:22:30 AM PST by RFP
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To: Elle Bee; nicmarlo
Thanks for the pings. The South Dakota story just keeps getting bigger. Great that reporters are doing it on their own. That is exactly the kind of journalism we need.

The Clinton/Reno machine stiffled vote fraud inquiries for the previous eight years. Who knows where it will lead now.
30 posted on 12/13/2002 8:44:18 AM PST by TheLion
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To: rhombus
This is how Kerry was elected in the first place.

The fools who inhabit Massachewshitts, operating in their usual stupor could make out the "K" and the "Y", and thought they were voting for a KennedY!

The Dukakis Mystery may also be explained by my KY Theory. The "Y" is the hard part there.

31 posted on 12/13/2002 8:44:30 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: RFP
and to add, Injuns can vote on our matters but we cannot vote on theirs....an injun soverign nation thingie....
32 posted on 12/13/2002 8:47:53 AM PST by cactusSharp
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
whats your basis I am not saying your wrong but tommy has been the worst sen majority leader in senate history, not to mention his 38% approval rating and bush runs about 70%

I have to disagree - the 'Hole ran rings around the opposition. His hubris about it was amazing however. I think he is simply a nasty person.

33 posted on 12/13/2002 8:54:08 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: nicmarlo
An interesting web site, do republicans use this or is it strictly for democrats?
34 posted on 12/13/2002 8:59:17 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe
I looked around a bit....they appear rabidly anti-Republican...I would think pubbies would only go there to gather info.
35 posted on 12/13/2002 9:17:19 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: auggy
I can't understand why voting isn't the same across all the states. It should be. Looks to me like some reform needs to take place, hopefully before 2004! I won't hold my breath, though.
36 posted on 12/13/2002 9:39:57 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Elkiejg
This is too important to ignore.
37 posted on 12/13/2002 10:29:05 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Elkiejg
On the day after the election I am sure that I saw a posting on FreeRepublic about election workers marking ballots. There was a link to the Argus-Leader, a South Dakota newspaper, and the story contained quotes from the state election official about how this was improper. The explanation was that the voters had used a pencil to mark their ballots and the machines couldn't read them. The workers "helped" by marking over the pencil with dark ink. The state official said that by state law, a duplicate could be made to run through the machine, but the original must not be altered in any way.

And yes, it was reportedly happening at the pecincts that reported late and gave Johnson the win.

I have not seen anything since, which is strange as this is the most damning evidence that fraud was occuring. I have been searching for this story lately and have not been able to find it. Can anyone out there help? I am 100% sure that it exists.
38 posted on 12/13/2002 10:36:22 AM PST by Electron Wizard
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To: Elkiejg
bookmark bump
39 posted on 12/13/2002 11:47:25 AM PST by lepton
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To: Coop
Dasshole's a powerful leader with high name recognition, very popular among South Dakotans. If Thune could not beat freshman Tim Johnson, in an off-Presidential year (where turnout tends to favor the GOP), I think Thune will get beaten handily by a multi-term Dem leader running during a Presidential election.

Your post demonstrates your lack of understanding of the situation.

In an "off-Presidential", or mid-term election, Thune shouldn't have had a chance. Actually, Republicans, nationally, shouldn't have had a chance.

But, if you recall, this thread is about an interview in which a reporter has discovered that in all probability, Thune did win. When you couple the fact that S. Dakotans are likely not too thrilled with seeing their electoral process corrupted with Thune running in a Presidential election year in which Bush will have coat tails and Daschle's low positives, Thune COULD win.

40 posted on 12/13/2002 12:10:15 PM PST by Nephi
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To: Nephi
Your post demonstrates your lack of understanding of the situation. In an "off-Presidential", or mid-term election, Thune shouldn't have had a chance.

I suggest you go back and review some data.

41 posted on 12/13/2002 12:55:33 PM PST by Coop
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To: Elkiejg
bttt
42 posted on 12/14/2002 5:47:31 AM PST by Dante3
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Just imagine: Somewhere out there is a Republican Majority Leader who will refuse to seat Johnson in the Senate pending reolution of an investigation into voter fraud in South Dakota.

Hint: Lott dosen't have the cojones to do the right thing. Now if he tried it the media would jump on it as more proof of his racism.

Dump Lott. Then refuse to seat Johnson!
43 posted on 12/14/2002 5:58:33 AM PST by cgbg
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
In my small county you don't have to tell them who you are when you go into vote because they already know you. We had 4 or 5 precincts in one room and as usual I couldn't remember which one I was in so I just walked by until one of the polling workers said you vote in this one. I would guess this ability to ID people coming in to vote would also apply in the reservation counties.
No doubt that there was DNC fraud going on.
44 posted on 12/14/2002 6:11:35 AM PST by clodkicker
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