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The Democrat Plan to regain control of the US Senate in January.
BLUEBAY | 12-17-2002 | VANNROX

Posted on 12/17/2002 11:56:04 AM PST by vannrox

The Democrat Plan to regain control of the US Senate in January.

Written by VannRox

For BLUEBAY

December 17,2002

Well, they are doing it again. That’s right. Pulling the rug out from the Republicans yet again. The victories of the November 2002 elections are but a faded dim memory, and yet the control of the US Senate, once thought and assumed to be in Republican control, may just be a fading dream.

Like the Senate was in 2000, with a balance of power organized by Senator Lott, under the assumption that the Democrats would abide by the agreement, we find ourselves in yet another like situation. To refresh ones memory, it should be remembered that the Senate in 2002 was evenly divided between the Democrats and the Republicans. Lott, the Senate majority leader, felt that a power sharing agreement needed to be composed to "share" power with the Democrats. He believed, that the power composition would stay evenly divided, and that any dead lock would be determined by the VP – A Republican.

What he, and the rest of the Republicans, did not know nor expect was that the Democrats began in earnest to recruit Republican Senators to turn and switch control to the Democrats. They were very active in this regard, and they, as well now know, promised the world to "Jumping’" Jim Jeffords. Who, as I should remind everyone, left the Republican Party and became an independent. Thus giving power to the Democrats.

The Democrats then used that power to effectively stall each and every presidential initiative presented to Congress. They rendered George Bush sterile. To this day, many important bills and judicial confirmations have been stalled due to this action.

The Plan for January.

The Democrats have taken an innocuous comment made by Senator Lott, and are using it like a blunt mallet. Pounding and pounding away. Attacking and attacking like a rabid dog at Lott. Why? It is more than mere "Borking", they are approaching this with a ferocity that has been unequaled. Indeed, not even Carville would be capable of such sustained slander, vitriol and vociferous attacks. They have claimed every crime under the sun, and few not even in existence to unseat Lott.

Why?

If, the Democrats manage to "win" the fight with Senator Lott, and thus manage to have him step down from the Republican Leadership, they will have created a situation where as their control of the Senate is GUARANTEED.

Senator Lott has made it known, that if he were to step down from the Senate Leadership position that he would leave the Senate. This is public knowledge. This would then force the current Governor of Mississippi; a democrat, to replace the Senator. He has also made it public that he would choose a Democrat…and a very liberal one at that.

Thus, this action would crate a situation in which the Senate would be a 50% 50% mix of Republicans and Democrats. – Just like in 2000. Al the projected ties would then have to be broken by the VP.

Stupid Political pundits and Democrat Activists within the media are making the same kind of statements presented to the population prior to the 2000 Senate Jim Jeffords Switch. That it is on Principle that one must (just MUST) get rid of Lott. "Oh my Gosh he’s got to go"…decry the seminar callers who have flooded the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show. They argue, that that is the "right thing to do…". The Democrat Activists are quite busy.

Why?

Because there are a number of RINO’s just ripe for jumping from the Republican party to the Independent or Democrat Party. One, who will remain nameless, but who represents a North Eastern State has been siding with the Democrats for years now and is ready to make just a switch, provided the keys to the Kingdom are provided to him.

Unofficial sources are said to believe that his (the Senators) feelers on this subject were answered in a very understanding way. "…think of me as Santa Claus…" has been the response that is supposed to have been uttered. There is no question that this is in the works.

Provided the Media pressure can be maintained through Christmas, and the Democrat activists can maintain a pro-leave Polling appearance…. Democrat strategists believe that they could possibly regain control of the US Senate in January. To facilitate this, special envoys have been sent to Mississippi to increase pressure there, via a write in campaign, and a media blitz, and promises of riches beyond any Democrat ideal of wealth have been hinted at within the halls and chambers of those "in the know". One such offer of such riches is the possibility is as a VP candidate in 2004.

Yep. The Democrats are doing it again. And, we Republicans are just stupid enough to fall for it.


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KEYWORDS: 2002; bush; clinton; control; democrat; dnc; gore; jeffords; lott; power; senate; vannrox
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1 posted on 12/17/2002 11:56:04 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
I believe that various posters here at Free Republic have witten similar scenarios.
2 posted on 12/17/2002 12:00:51 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: vannrox
JUst one. Good Writing but you need to read a little more.

This whole controversy was started by Carville himself.In fact he quoted Lotts remarks That very night.

Also, tied to this, but not mentioned is the immediate departure of mary matalin from the White House.

Once Carvilles hand in this had been exposed her departure makes alot more sense.

3 posted on 12/17/2002 12:02:09 PM PST by hobbes1
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To: vannrox
I'm just about commented out. I'm trying not become emotional about these developments but I'm having really ugly sensations provoked by comments made by Spike Lee, Jesse Jackson, and others...to include my president. I keep waiting for Condi Rice and Colin Powell to step out and proclaim all Republicans racist. Day-o.
4 posted on 12/17/2002 12:05:50 PM PST by FryingPan101
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To: vannrox
Senator Lott has made it known, that if he were to step down from the Senate Leadership position that he would leave the Senate.

Lott is a self centered, first class SOB who is showing that he is willing to destroy any chance of advancing his party's agenda for at least the next two years. He will treat his own party this way but will crawl sniveling to the Rats for permission to wipe the dog crap from their shoes.

5 posted on 12/17/2002 12:07:14 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: vannrox
After watching Lott on BET publicly saying he was not a racist while promising to make race a key factor in his and the Governments decisions, he must go.
6 posted on 12/17/2002 12:11:34 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: vannrox
I have said it all along: thanks to the useful idiots who consider themselves to be conservatives who picked up Jesse Jackson's "TRENT LOTT IS A SEGREGATIONIST" mantra, once again, the Stupid Party snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.
7 posted on 12/17/2002 12:12:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: vannrox
The democrats??? Better check, whole lot of republicans been getting in some good licks on poor old Lott. Course the dems love all the help they can get because they have more bloodletting planned.
8 posted on 12/17/2002 12:13:06 PM PST by cynicom
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To: vannrox
Your analysis is incorrect.

1. Lott has said he will not resign from the Senate.

2. Even if he did resign from the Senate, Mississippi must hold an election for a replacement within 90 days. The republican candidate is the overwhelming favorite, as long as he can walk and chew gum at the same time.

3. Assume an interim dem replacement for that 90 days. The senate is still 50-50 and ties are broken with the Vice PResident's vote. We win.

4. So, will Lincoln Chaffee jump ship because of an interim dem replacement for Lott? He would be crazy to do so. We will likely take back the senate in 90 days and he loses his chairmanship because he is no longer with the majority. Plus, the dems will have a very rough time taking the Senate in 2004. Why would he jump ship to a likely minority party in two years?

The reality here is that any way this plays out, the Republicans are likely to keep control of the Senate. Now look at the 'other hand.'

Let's say we give into our fears and keep Lott as SML. Do you think that America would be a better place had Thurmond's Dixiecrats run the country since 1948? Their main platform was segregation now, segregation forever. Real segregation enforced by law.

I for one do not think so. I do not want my party lead by a man who says that he thinks the Dixiecrats being elected would be a peachy idea. Not only is that statement immoral. It is incredibly stupid for him to have done so in front of CSPAN cameras. Had he given this a moment's thought, he would have understood just how stupid that statement would sound.

Either he is a rascist. Or he is very, very stupid. Neither is acceptable in a SML for the Republicans.

Don't blame this on the dems. They can no more resist race-baiting than can a junkie resist a loaded needle. Lott knows that and opened his mouth anyway. Lott has only himself to blame for this fiasco.

9 posted on 12/17/2002 12:15:37 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: vannrox
It's nobody's fault but Trent's.
10 posted on 12/17/2002 12:15:55 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: hobbes1
This whole controversy was started by Carville himself.In fact he quoted Lotts remarks That very night.

Also, tied to this, but not mentioned is the immediate departure of mary matalin from the White House.

Once Carvilles hand in this had been exposed her departure makes alot more sense.


Hmmmmm.... That sure makes me wonder.
11 posted on 12/17/2002 12:18:00 PM PST by smith288
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To: ModelBreaker
Lott has not said that he would not resign from the Senate. I have no idea where you get that source.

We are playing with political fire on this, and I am no fan of Trent Lott.
12 posted on 12/17/2002 12:18:29 PM PST by mwl1
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To: vannrox
With due respect to General Benedict Arnold, who for good reason was once the most admired man in America (after personally leading a winter assault on Quebec, after building a battle fleet on the shores of Ticonderoga that won a significant naval victory on Lake Champlain, and after leading the assault that won the American victory at Saratoga) and who later -- after being screwed by Congress and pilloried into court martial by the President of Pennsylvania -- changed sides; Trent Lott handing control of the US Senate to Democrats would make him America's greatest traitor ever.
13 posted on 12/17/2002 12:18:30 PM PST by thinktwice
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To: smith288
The rapidity of it, and the lack of pomp was a big warning flag.
14 posted on 12/17/2002 12:19:07 PM PST by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Well, I'd almost agree with you if I hadn't heard Mary announce on MTP that she was leaving the WH at the end of the year....the time was right after Karen Hughes announced she was leaving.
15 posted on 12/17/2002 12:19:23 PM PST by mystery-ak
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To: vannrox
A recipe for disaster. For the Democrats. Can you imagine the backlash the 'Craps will feel in '04 if they try to pull another obstructionist Dasshole?
16 posted on 12/17/2002 12:19:56 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Lott is a self centered,

He will treat his own party this way

They haven't treated him very well of late, because of thier self centeredness(if that's a word) running away from him like he was a tar baby.

17 posted on 12/17/2002 12:20:13 PM PST by StriperSniper
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To: mystery-ak
But look at the dieffering manner in which both left.

Hughes was feted and paraded around, etc. And Mary M. is a much higher profile advisor having been a member of the Punditry. She was shown the door.

18 posted on 12/17/2002 12:21:05 PM PST by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
This whole controversy was started by Carville himself.In fact he quoted Lotts remarks That very night.

Blaming the messenger?

19 posted on 12/17/2002 12:21:58 PM PST by Station 51
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To: vannrox
You're exactly right. If only people would open their eyes to the truth!

Thanks for posting this!

20 posted on 12/17/2002 12:23:01 PM PST by neutrino
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To: Station 51
That is hardly blaming the messenger. Grotesquely distorting the context, and pushing that distortion is a grotesque crime upon the public discourse.

Oh, And BTW if you really believe that Lott was actively endorsing Segragation at Stroms Birthday party, You should be posting at DU.

21 posted on 12/17/2002 12:25:20 PM PST by hobbes1
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To: StriperSniper
And his tactic of salting the earth isn't exactly endearing, either. If he would show half the nerve against the Rats as he does his own party, the right would have closed ranks long ago and protected him.
23 posted on 12/17/2002 12:26:27 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: vannrox
I am constantly amazed when FReepers are incredulous that the Dems would stoop so low. They are at WAR with us. They will stop at nothing. They have no scruples. They will lie, they will cheat, they will commit voter fraud, they will drag people through the mud, ...in short they will do whatever it takes to remove your freedom.

The Republican's biggest mistake is playing by the rules. This reminds me of when Clinton was nailing everything in sight and Gingrich and Livingston (sp?) resigned. Lott should have said "I will resign as ML as soon as Byrd leaves the Senate, Clinton apologizes for his Fullbright (sp?) comments, and Jackson explain his hymietown comments. Until then you can all kiss my Mississipi white snake". Unfortunately he is a wuss and is incapable of disproportionate retaliation which is the only thing that stops bullies.

24 posted on 12/17/2002 12:26:42 PM PST by MattinNJ
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To: vannrox
Why is there an assumption or belief by both the Media and Democrats that that Republicans will do what is Morally Right and Honest? Am I missing something in the "Morale High Ground Department" as I feel the only fallout from this whole eposide is to have the Democrats try to revive thier membership who have jumped ship on "morale grounds" and bring them back by making Republican's all look bad.

Lott must stay. The Country voted twice, in 2000 and now 2002, to give Republicans a chance to move the Country forward and away from the Clinton Politics of Personal Destruction. It is up to the Republican Leadership (Read LOTT included) to not cave in to precieved "Morale" errosion from a Political Party devoid of both integrity and honor. We owe them nothing that did not earn at the voting booth!

Why do the Democrats demand that we be better than they?

25 posted on 12/17/2002 12:27:44 PM PST by Jumper
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To: PenguinWry
My post #23 applies to you also.
26 posted on 12/17/2002 12:28:39 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Station 51
the pertinent article.

The Lott turmoil was entirely manufactured by Democratic operatives — namely by unrepentant Clintonite James Carville, who first made an issue of the remarks the same night on Crossfire — and then pushed the story behind the scenes wherever they could, explaining to pundits and politicians how this could be used to sock it to the GOP.

27 posted on 12/17/2002 12:29:07 PM PST by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Trent should be ousted because he has become an embarrassment to the Republican Party and he endorsed a political platform that was antiquated in 1948 in the year 2002. From my viewpoint the best thing that could happen for the Democrats is for Trent to hang on and become the first major issue of the 2004 campaign.
28 posted on 12/17/2002 12:31:35 PM PST by Station 51
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To: vannrox
If the will of the people in the last election is thwarted it will be "lock and load" time.
29 posted on 12/17/2002 12:32:14 PM PST by pankot
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To: MattinNJ
I am constantly amazed when FReepers are incredulous that the Dems would stoop so low

Probably the same ones who think it was a good policy to laugh at the democrats
30 posted on 12/17/2002 12:32:32 PM PST by uncbob
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To: mwl1
We are playing with political fire on this, and I am no fan of Trent Lott.

The political fire is already lit. 'We' didn't light it. Trent Lott did. The question is, what is the right and the politically expedient way to put it out. Fortunately, both factors point the same direction. This very stupid man needs to gracefully accept that he is a back bencher from here on out.

31 posted on 12/17/2002 12:32:52 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: hobbes1
What do you mean, Matalin was shown the door?
32 posted on 12/17/2002 12:34:36 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Station 51
He didn;t endorse the platform. He endorsed the Man.And THAT MAN regardless of his platform prior to 1950, Served his country for over 50 years.

The real issue, for those of us on this side of the fence is that Trent is too STUPID to remain Majority Leader, and his failed Power Sharing plan, that bit him on the Ass, should be trotted out by Republicans, in CONJUNCTION with his recent remarks to change the DEBATE from Racism, to ineptitude.

34 posted on 12/17/2002 12:35:56 PM PST by hobbes1
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To: Howlin
There is an article at NRO, that points to the main man behind this....incident, as The Serpent Head, detailing him quoting Lotts remarks that very night.

I am saying, that taken in Conjunction with this flap, that it is entirely possible that her announcement 3 days after the story broke, is a little coincedental.Her leaving seems more to be in line with O'Neill, and Lindsay, rather than say...Karen Hughes.

35 posted on 12/17/2002 12:38:26 PM PST by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Hobbes, I watched the party on CSPAN. I know people who were there. They KNEW the second he said it that the crap was going to hit the fan.

It's useless to find out who started the snowball; Lott gave them the snow. And to this minute, he's given them enough for an avalanche!

36 posted on 12/17/2002 12:40:17 PM PST by Howlin
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To: vannrox
Trent Lott is a f***ing idiot for putting us in this situation. If he had any sense of duty to his party he would resign as Senate Majority Leader TODAY and shut the he** up and stop apologizing for every perceived sin under the sun.

It doesn't matter any more that his remarks were merely stupid (which they were) but innocuous. It's gotten too big to take them back. He hung himself and gave the race industry fodder for the next year if not longer.

Step aside Trent for Frist or Nickles or Tancredo. Keep quiet and maybe you'll be able to hold onto your seat in the next Mississippi senatorial election. But your days in a leadership position of the party are OVER.

As to the hypocrisy of the Other Side in this one-sided debate, that's a separate issue that the Pubbies need to start fighting, i.e., which is the party of segragation

The Democrats!

Which is the party of continued discrimination?

The Democrats!

Which is the party responsible for the woeful state of our cities and schools?

The Democrats!



37 posted on 12/17/2002 12:44:07 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Howlin
I agree to an extent, and beleive that Trent should just shut his mouth, fall on his sword, and take his seat on the floor.

However, that having been said, People on our side should not be nodding in rapid agreement with the vile bastards straining credulity by turning an affectionate appraisal of an Old man into a defacto cry for a return to segragation.

As I said above Lott can no longer lead because He is Inept, not racist.

38 posted on 12/17/2002 12:46:15 PM PST by hobbes1
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To: Enterprise
I believe that various posters here at Free Republic have witten similar scenarios.

Here's mine. It was a spoof then and I still think the entire notion of Dems taking control is a joke. Time to move on to more important issues.

Posted by BJungNan to ilosetoo On News/Activism 12/14/2002 7:02 PM PST #46 of 57

Saturday, December 14, 2003 Posted: 7:46 PM EST (0046 GMT)

WASHINGTON (Hooters) In a major shake up of the Senate and blow to President George Bush, Trent Lott announced a switch in party affiliation that will find him joining the Democrats in a move he says is the only way to preserve his status as Senate Majority Leader.

Citing Republican efforts to remove him as majority leader over comments he made regarding Trom Surmond, Lott said he regreted having to make the switch but felt he was forced into it.

"They forced my hand. What else could I do?" said Lott. "By joining the Democrat party, I will retain my Leadership position, as a Democrat I can no longer be accused of being a racist and I will be joining a party that will stand by me no matter what I do."

The defection by Lott would not, however, be enough to give Democrats control of the Senate. This is fueling speculation that another Senate Republican, perhaps Arlene Specter (R) Pennsylvania, will also switch to the democratic party at the same time as Lott.

Such a move would give the Democrats majority control of the Senate and make it possible, if such a deal has been reached, that Lott would remain as Senate Majority Leader, albeit as a Democrat.

While publically refusing to confirm a second Republican defection, several sources close to the Senate Democrat leadership confirmed a deal had been reached whereby Democrats will regain majority status in the Senate.

And now we return you to your regular posting...

(For those of you who may be confused, the above is a spoof)

39 posted on 12/17/2002 12:51:51 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: vannrox
I think Lott will stay, even if not the Majority Leader. But we have to teach the Dems a lesson. Take back Jim Jeffords to boost our majority regardless of how he votes. He would be just a pawn anyway.
40 posted on 12/17/2002 12:52:47 PM PST by Consort
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To: vannrox
"The Democrat Plan to..."


41 posted on 12/17/2002 12:55:25 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: thinktwice
Trent Lott handing control of the US Senate to Democrats would make him America's greatest traitor ever

Actually that would be Clinton as history will reveal.

42 posted on 12/17/2002 12:56:06 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: BJungNan
"By joining the Democrat party, I will retain my Leadership position, as a Democrat I can no longer be accused of being a racist and I will be joining a party that will stand by me no matter what I do."

Outstanding spoof - but yet so true! Good post!

44 posted on 12/17/2002 1:23:26 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: vannrox
The problem is Lott. He will rather resign and screw his own party instead of sucking it up and being a normal Senator for two years. Lott knew what he was saying when he said it. He should of known what the respose would have been. To claim that things would have been better if a known racist was president, was either done on purpose or it was done out of stupidity. Either way Lott should realize that he cannot lead the Republicans any more. He has given his own party a no win scenario, which means he could care less about them. Either the Republicans limp along with a damaged leader in the Senate or Lott will make sure the Democrats control the Senate.
45 posted on 12/17/2002 1:26:26 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: hobbes1
I don't believe Lott was endorsing segregation, but to not know that such was the implication of his comments regarding the Dixiecrats 1948 platform and Strom's candidacy, makes the man incredibly stupid. Also, he has been a terrible majority/minority leader for the Republicans, unable to accomplish anything.

I say let him go and we'll win the special election for his seat. I'm willing to bet that if he stays as majority leader, he will be completely ineffective, or worse, will actively push leftist bills to suck up to the democrats.

In the worst case scenario, we lose the senate and America spends the next two years watching Daschle and Co. be obstructionists and push far-left agendas, which will result in a big win in 2004, both for President Bush, and for a larger majority in the Senate.
46 posted on 12/17/2002 1:48:27 PM PST by brownie
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To: vannrox
I don't buy this. Moderates like Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins have tremendous respect for President Bush. His public statements against Lott the other day stunned the liberals. I even heard Mario Cuomo call Bush "a different kind of Republican" on Hardball, much to my surprise.

There will be no moe defections.

47 posted on 12/17/2002 2:10:18 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
And I think Daschle is still smarting from the fallout of the Jeffords switch.

If he obstructs as Majority Leader, he turns off the center. If he cuts deals, he ticks off his base. I think he'll be wary of any defection this time around.
48 posted on 12/17/2002 2:30:49 PM PST by hchutch
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To: PenguinWry
What about his handling of the Senate hearings on Clintons impeachment? I will never forgive him for this.
49 posted on 12/17/2002 2:55:34 PM PST by my right
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