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California Supreme Court to review whether judges can be Boy Scouts
Associated Press ^ | 12-21-02

Posted on 12/21/2002 4:25:27 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:41:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The California Supreme Court is considering prohibiting state judges from being members of the Boy Scouts because of its refusal to admit gays, the chief justice said.

The move, announced Thursday, comes months after San Francisco's judges and others cut ties with the organization for the same reason. The San Francisco Bar association and other groups recently asked the high court to revamp the rules.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; ca; california; gay; homosexual; scouts

1 posted on 12/21/2002 4:25:27 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
WoW. Here is California, a supposedly Catholic oriented state banning participation in a christian organization. Will California be the first state to completely ban religion? I think it will be several years before they do that.
2 posted on 12/21/2002 4:40:43 AM PST by paguch
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Once California is returned to Mexico this sort of thing will not happen.

(Note: "returned" used only as a rhetorical device since earlier American colonial claims to the territory supercede those of Mexico, a state established long after the USA which acquired right to those claims directly from the colonial governments asserting them. The USA did not challenge the legitimacy of the Spanish claims because it was a wartime ally.)

Anyway, the history note notwithstanding, they can't "return" the California government to Mexico fast enough for my taste, and one can just imagine what's going to happen to pro-homosexual judges when the "federales" lock them up in Mexican jails!

3 posted on 12/21/2002 4:43:30 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
STATEMENT:"California Supreme Court to review whether judges can be Boy Scouts"

RESPONSE: PEOPLE REVIEW WHETHER THESE PEOPLE CAN BE SUPREME COURT JUDGES.

COMMENT: However, that would require a certain amount of strength. Apparently such strength does not exist.

4 posted on 12/21/2002 4:49:30 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
How sad.
5 posted on 12/21/2002 5:55:01 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
California is a cesspool.
6 posted on 12/21/2002 6:02:49 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
California judicial canons, controlled by the Supreme Court, already demand that judges divest themselves from groups that discriminate against women and minorities.

So am I to assume that there are groups in California that "discriminate against women & minorities" and that some of these groups are obviously known, as judges had to "divest themselves from" them?
I wonder what these groups are?

7 posted on 12/21/2002 6:13:53 AM PST by jla
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To: Saundra Duffy
Whenever you have time, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
And I sure hope you can weather the Gray skies out there until you can elect a Conservative.

For Victory & Freedom!

8 posted on 12/21/2002 6:18:09 AM PST by jla
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To: muawiyah
". . .they can't "return" the California government to Mexico fast enough for my taste,"

You've got my vote.

9 posted on 12/21/2002 6:22:57 AM PST by davisfh
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To: *bsa_list
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10 posted on 12/21/2002 7:02:21 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It is, of course, perfectly OK for them to belong the the Califonia Association of Black Judges or the California Association of Gay Judges, whereas, it would be inappropriate for them to belong to the Califonia Association of White Judges or the Califonia Association of Straight Judges.
11 posted on 12/21/2002 7:06:07 AM PST by Tacis
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
bttt
12 posted on 12/21/2002 7:08:09 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: muawiyah
"Once California is returned to Mexico this sort of thing will not happen." Gee, why not return it to the Indians? They were there first

http://www.mip.berkeley.edu/cilc_images/bibs/maps/tribemap.gif
13 posted on 12/21/2002 7:15:49 AM PST by LadyDoc
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yes, our wonderful Left proves once again that they do not believe in quaint little democratic notions like FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION. What fascists!
14 posted on 12/21/2002 7:20:09 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
HOMOS RULE!!
15 posted on 12/21/2002 7:23:58 AM PST by ricpic
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If the California Supreme Court does this, can the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit be far behind?

By the way, if the state courts can adopt these rules, I think it's just a matter of time before the state bar association does the same thing. I wonder if a lawyer disbarred because of membership in the Boy Scouts could bring suit.

16 posted on 12/21/2002 7:49:19 AM PST by aristeides
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To: jla
While nobody is saying anything...I would assume that its a heck of alot broader on which organizations you can and can't be a member of. California may be helping itself depopulate. If I were a CEO and looking at the cost of operating in California...the cost of taxes...the political troubles...the earthquakes...I would just say adios and head off to AZ or Neveda. The state may find itself in 20 years...with a tremendous Latino population who basically run politics in the state. I think the whimpy politicans who are running the show now may be heading to a major shock when Latinos ride in and state the standard operating procedure in California. A shift in 1,000,000 Latino voters could really change the whole landscape in California.
17 posted on 12/21/2002 8:17:00 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: tomahawk
California is a cesspool

The problem is that those who made California into a cesspool are now pulling out and leaving others to live in the mess they left behind, while relocating to places such as the Pacific Northwest and Colorado, and are now trying to *reform* those places into copies of their California *Progressive Successes.*

And it's not easy to tell the decent people from California fleeing the cesspool from those salivating at the chance of turning other communities into something similar. And there appears to be no easy way to get those who did the damage in California to return to live with the effects of their folly.

-archy-/-

18 posted on 12/21/2002 10:46:20 AM PST by archy
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To: paguch
Will California be the first state to completely ban religion?

No, the state religion of California is a sect of secular humanism which has moral relativism as their creed and and PC as their altar.

19 posted on 12/21/2002 10:52:49 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If this kind of 'moral high-ground' is going to be taken with judges.....can we then move on to Congress? /sarcasm
20 posted on 12/21/2002 11:53:22 AM PST by BossLady
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To: paguch
Whoa! What are they going to do next, prohibit Baptists from becoming judges because openly practicing gays can't join evangelical churches? This is WAY over the line and downright frightening, imo.
21 posted on 12/21/2002 12:12:02 PM PST by agrace
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
If the Catholic Church had followed the Boy Scouts of America in excluding gay men, then the Catholic Church wouldn't find itself in the mess it's in today. If I were a judge in this instance I would fight this tooth and nail. The Boy Scouts are one of the few remaining decent organizations we have for boys.
22 posted on 12/21/2002 1:45:14 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: paguch
"..a supposedly Catholic oriented state.."

Where on earth did you get that idea? Kalifornia worships man. Period. There is a smattering of religion here and there, but paganism and satanism are just as viable as any of the Christian religions.

You have no idea how bad it is.

23 posted on 12/21/2002 1:48:51 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: archy
"..it's not easy to tell the decent people from California..."

There's the problem, my man. Even CA conservatives are liberal by national standards. They have been living near the cesspool for so long that, even they (conservatives) smell like liberals.

I'm on a post on another thread where Californians who pretend to be conservative think it's a great state simply because they get to surf.

One child even called it (CA) the "crown jewel of America."

The cause is absolutely lost. God is giving CA over to our enemies because He hates what's been done, there.

24 posted on 12/21/2002 1:56:04 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: ricpic
Rom 1:32
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
(KJV)

25 posted on 12/21/2002 1:57:44 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: LadyDoc
Looks like you missed some important points of history. Mexico is "the Indians" - or at least a considerable part of them.

Besides, turning Gray Davis over to a guy running a casino in San Diego county really isn't going to get us the sort of effect we really need. Now you give Gray Davis to the federales, and have them lock him up, along with all those spare judges they have out there, and it will be a real show!

26 posted on 12/21/2002 2:59:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The fascist Gaystapo is at work again. Soon your government servants will not be allowed an all male poker night or to attend a Catholic Church. We let them steal our freedom at our own and our children's peril.
27 posted on 12/21/2002 3:49:47 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: hoosierskypilot; archy
One of the biggest misconceptions promoted by the media is that the rise of Latinos in CA, doomed the GOP. That is not entirely true. While it is true that the Latino vote has increased in recent years, they only made up 14% of the CA Presidential electorate in 2000. This is despite the fact that Hispanics make up 33% of CA's population. Hispanic voter turnout is much lower compared to other ethnic groups. Latinos as a group see themselves as citizens of Mexico rather than American citizens. The CA GOP dismal fortunates are attributed to both conservatives migrating out of the state, as well as White suburban RINOS switching to the Democratic Party.
28 posted on 12/21/2002 7:21:47 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: pepsionice
The state may find itself in 20 years...with a tremendous Latino population who basically run politics in the state.

The irony here is of course that a California controlled by Mexicans would be a lot more conservative than the government California has now.

29 posted on 12/22/2002 12:56:49 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Kuksool
While it is true that the Latino vote has increased in recent years, they only made up 14% of the CA Presidential electorate in 2000.

The legal residents voting in CA elections are 14%, perhaps. But how many more illegal alien felony voters, as well.

If they're willing to commit a felony by illegally entering the country, what reason is there to believe they're not also committing vote fraud as well?

-archy-/-

30 posted on 12/23/2002 2:58:05 PM PST by archy
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To: archy
The legal residents voting in CA elections are 14%, perhaps. But how many more illegal alien felony voters, as well.

They would show up in the exit polling, unless you're saying that the exit polls are explicitly excluding illegal aliens somehow--using their psychic powers, maybe?

31 posted on 12/23/2002 3:01:27 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
California is a cesspool. A literal socialist hellhole spewing toxic bile and spreading its tentacles across the continental divide. The sooner it drops into the ocean and takes the no-good dimwit governor with it, the better.
32 posted on 12/23/2002 3:05:03 PM PST by fogarty
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