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Stupid Left, Satanic Left
The Jewish Press ^ | 12/11/2002 | Steven Plaut

Posted on 12/28/2002 9:13:20 AM PST by veronica

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To: pram
I come from an ultra leftist family) who said that communism hasn't worked because it wasn't applied properly, but the "ideas" weren't at fault. She quickly had to admit, though, that once the personal incentive is taken away no one wants to work.

Nothing against your family member, but this is a great example of why it's so hard to figure these people out.

How CAN one believe that "properly applying the ideas" of communism would work, when the incentive to produce is taken away, which she freely admitted to?

I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard a lefty say that communism has failed, because it has yet to be administered correctly.

21 posted on 12/28/2002 6:49:20 PM PST by Darling Lili
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To: veronica
So are the NY Jews the stupid left or satanic left???

Pray for GW and our Troops

22 posted on 12/28/2002 6:52:45 PM PST by bray
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To: Tom Bombadil
Not necessarily in this order (and with some overlap):

Liberals
Dupes
Fellow Travelers
Pinkos
Red Diaper Doper Babies (Thanks, Mike Savage)
Progressives
Marxist/Leninists

I like the article though. Christians have a lot to learn from the Jews. They have always been, by definition, counter-cultural whether they like it or not. For Christians it's developed in the last thirty years.

We shall overcome.
23 posted on 12/28/2002 6:56:13 PM PST by johnb838
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To: Darling Lili
Don't worry about speaking out about my "family member"! I am almost ostracized because I am pro-gun rights, pro-death penalty, against abortion, and view sodomy as sick and cruel behavior, not a holy sacrament! Because of having the upbringing I had (red-diaper doper baby) I have a unique insight into liberals. It IS a religion, in the sense of people BELIEVING with all their hearts. People can have blind belief in anything - the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, flat earth, the tenets of liberal/leftism - with complete fervor.

The reason one cannot argue or debate rationally with such people is because their belief is fanatic, not rooted in truth. Unconciously they can't stand to hear anything that disagrees with them, because it may destroy their own faith. If their foolish groundless faith in phantasmagoria is destroyed, they will then have to look at their empty purposeless lives and that will be painful.

Also, leftism/liberalism, being a phony religion, requires strict adherence and lack of questioning. It requires that one be either an atheist, or if one believes in "God" it is not really God but a pretend or mistaken idea of God. The concept of "Absolute Truth" in the sense of God is 100% absent with real leftist liberals.

Another interesting facet is that liberals/leftist have a fixation with illicit sex. Even if they don't do it, they see abortion, homosexuality and "free sex" as requirements - to deny the legitimacy of these is tantamount to blasphemy. For instance, my family considers me mentally sick because I see these as unhealthy and immoral.
I could write a book about this!!!
24 posted on 12/28/2002 7:18:43 PM PST by First Amendment
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To: pram
I could write a book about this!!!

LOL! You ought to! You must especially enjoy David Horowitz's columns, as a fellow red-diaper doper baby. ;)

25 posted on 12/28/2002 7:27:33 PM PST by Darling Lili
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To: Tom Bombadil
"Wahabite liberalism"..."Jacobin Left"...'jihadi left'...
26 posted on 12/28/2002 7:41:59 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: pram
"Don't worry about speaking out about my "family member"! I am almost ostracized because I am pro-gun rights, pro-death penalty, against abortion, and view sodomy as sick and cruel behavior, not a holy sacrament!"

You write very well and have pithy things to say (catch that O'Reilly?). You really should consider writing some things for published consumption or, at minimum, becoming a regular contributor to the "Letters" section of a mainline newspaper. Obviously, the NY Slimes and Wash Slosh wouldn't have a thing to do with your letters.
27 posted on 12/28/2002 7:47:01 PM PST by Chu Gary
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To: veronica
Excellence in posting. Disquisitorily profound. The Stupid Left pushes "affirmative action" because they believe it makes up for evil discrimnation that went the other way, in the past. The Satanic Left likes it because it puts people in places where they can't cut the mustard, angering and/or disheartening them, and at the same time enraging others, when decent people stand up against it.
28 posted on 12/28/2002 8:03:20 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: veronica
Well said.

Perhaps I'd have phrased it, 'the satanic Left' and their useful idiots - but I agree with the premise.
There is strong evidence that Karl Marx was a satanist (ref: "Marx & Satan" by Wurmbrand), and we can certainly observe the fruits of his labors (atheism; deification of the State; abortion mills; the 100+ million killed by the various communist regimes of the 1900s; and so on)...
Thanks for the post - its a good reminder how we are under the curse of evil - and how satan wants to enslave us. But I'll also use this as an opportunity to remind everyone that there is one who has purchased our freedom with His precious blood:
John 8:36 ...If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

May God bless you.

29 posted on 12/28/2002 8:18:36 PM PST by El Cid
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To: martin_fierro
Right on.
30 posted on 12/28/2002 8:21:22 PM PST by veronica
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To: pram
Only in a thriving capitalist country such as ours are Marxists really free to indulge their intellectual conceits about how well communism would work "if only properly administered." Like all vile parasites, they require a healthy host to feed and sustain them. When they become dominant and proliferate, they inject their noisome poisons into culture, society, and industry and eventually kill the host just as certainly and painfully as any black plague would do.
31 posted on 12/28/2002 8:35:42 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: veronica
Following the same logic --

The Stupid Left wants gun control, because they honestly believe it will make the streets safer. The Satanic Left wants gun control because they know that it will make them vastly more powerful.

Or so I once believed. But I no longer believe in the Stupid Left. There's only one kind of leftist.

32 posted on 12/28/2002 9:40:30 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: Kevin Curry
Like all vile parasites, they require a healthy host to feed and sustain them.

Reality bump.

33 posted on 12/28/2002 10:36:11 PM PST by Abar
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To: veronica
The Stupid Left wants a Palestinian state because it thinks that such a state will pursue peace alongside Israel. The Satanic Left wants a Palestinian state precisely because it knows such a state will launch a war of destruction against Israel and endless atrocities against the Jews.

Bush still calls for a 'palestinian' state.

34 posted on 12/28/2002 10:44:04 PM PST by Abar
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To: veronica
bump
35 posted on 12/28/2002 11:16:42 PM PST by SkyPilot
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Bump.
36 posted on 12/29/2002 7:16:50 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
Bttt.

5.56mm

37 posted on 12/29/2002 7:21:26 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: martin_fierro
...Heinlein more probably got the idea from Alfred Korzybski...

It is a very good day when I see these two cited. :)

38 posted on 12/29/2002 7:37:31 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: Tom Bombadil
There is no third type of leftist....French socialism.

Meaning stupid *and* unbathed?

39 posted on 12/29/2002 7:38:45 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: Darling Lili
this is a great example of why it's so hard to figure these people out.

The willfully ignorant, so invested in their dogma, are a subcategory of the stupids.

40 posted on 12/29/2002 7:41:54 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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