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5 Hunted Men Linked to Fake Passport Ring
NY Daily News ^ | December 31, 2002 | Greg Smith and Austin Fenner

Posted on 12/31/2002 9:16:12 AM PST by ewing

The 5 illegal aliens wanted for questioning by the FBI's counterterrorist squad may be connected to a forgery ring, officials said yesterday.

The FBI still has no information that the men were connected to a terrorist activity, the officials emphasized.

The FBI wants to question the men-believed to be Pakistani-in its probe of a group that makes false documents and passports.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: getem; ghouls; hunted; newyears; newyork; passports
Now what about the other 14 ghouls they are supposedly conspiring with? (according to the New York Post yesterday)
1 posted on 12/31/2002 9:16:12 AM PST by ewing
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To: ewing
Now, now. They are a peaceful people and religion. Don't be mean spirited! ;>)
2 posted on 12/31/2002 9:24:29 AM PST by RetiredArmy
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To: ewing
The 5 illegal aliens wanted for questioning by the FBI's counterterrorist squad may be connected to a forgery ring, officials said yesterday.

A while back there was a thread about an INS office being broken into. Everything needed to create "legit" vias was stolen. Stamps, forms, etc.

3 posted on 12/31/2002 9:25:19 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: ewing
Let's get this up on this thread too...

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4 posted on 12/31/2002 9:26:04 AM PST by Redcloak
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To: ewing; FL_engineer; Shermy; Clovis_Skeptic; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee; Squantos
Gee what a surprise.

Who would have ever thought that these Islamokazis got into Canada and then the US using fake passports.

5 posted on 12/31/2002 9:28:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: concerned about politics
What about the Military I.D. info that was broken into the other day as well?
6 posted on 12/31/2002 9:34:49 AM PST by ewing
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To: concerned about politics
Yes, that was in the Seattle or Tacoma area and may have been connected to John Mohammud, the Beltway sniper. I can't remember what the connection to Mohammud was, though.
7 posted on 12/31/2002 9:35:47 AM PST by Eva
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To: Redcloak
Thanks for posting the pics. There is no way in hell I could really get a good look on TV. They always show these pics together and it makes them too small. Seeing them here really calls attention to them. I will scrutinize them and pay attention. I will always believe that WE are our best resource against terrorists. After 9/11 and when it comes to terrorism I'm more of a "presume guilt" person.
8 posted on 12/31/2002 9:36:33 AM PST by GOP_Proud
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To: GOP_Proud
Other posters are telling me there is a link to suicide videos made by these men? Is this true? Anybody know where the link is?
9 posted on 12/31/2002 9:38:06 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: GOP_Proud
I will always believe that WE are our best resource against terrorists.

The story of this nurse supports your view.

10 posted on 12/31/2002 9:40:23 AM PST by Redcloak
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To: ewing
What about the Military I.D. info that was broken into the other day as well?

Crap. I missed that thread. That's new to me.

11 posted on 12/31/2002 9:41:09 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Eva; concerned about politics
That was in Tacoma around June 4th of this year. The main item stolen were INS admission stamps that's used to certify an alien's residency status.
But don't worry! They are individually stamped and therefore they can't ever be used w/o being found. Well if you believe that they can't forge the stamp or cops are going to look that closely at the stamp.
I'm perplexed that FOX isn't playing the local news here that someone saw one of the 5 "bad guys" pulled off a bus on the Canadian border.
12 posted on 12/31/2002 9:45:46 AM PST by lelio
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To: concerned about politics
Here's the latest on that thread. In a nutshell: someone broke into TriWest, a military medical insurance contractor, and stold information that consists of 500k military medical records.
13 posted on 12/31/2002 9:47:38 AM PST by lelio
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To: lelio
and stold information that consists of 500k military medical records.

What the heck would they need them for? Vaunerability info?

14 posted on 12/31/2002 9:51:16 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
Well that's what TriWest does, so its not like they had to search through data to get just that bit.
There's a couple of scenerios in this:
* just a normal theft of computers that happened to occur here
* a terrorist or anti-TriWest minded person that wanted the data
* a competitor of TriWest's that going up against them in a contract bid

What could be done with it? Well you now know the home addresses and relationships of a lot of military personnel. Just that would be useful to someone.

15 posted on 12/31/2002 9:54:36 AM PST by lelio
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To: lelio
As a Canadian, I am deeply disturbed that my retarded govenment is so lax with letting in these paki pieces of shit. Tell you what, do us a favour and invade our country soon, we'll keep some cold ones on ice for your troops arrival. If you like, I'll be your military's guide, I'll lead you straight to our Prime Ministers house, where you can do with him what you will, and then oust our left wing fucking french fucktard government.
16 posted on 12/31/2002 10:01:55 AM PST by IvanT
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To: ewing
More on Suspected Arab Terrorists -- Who Might Be Mexican Immigrants

Notice I didn't use Politically Incorrect Terminology.

17 posted on 12/31/2002 10:03:36 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: Redcloak
okay...the guy on the upper right. I thought I saw him until I realized it was just Jon Lovitz.


18 posted on 12/31/2002 10:06:49 AM PST by Solson
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To: ex-Texan
Sorry if my politically incorrect terminology offended anyone, I was typing while extremely angry at the implications of this story.
19 posted on 12/31/2002 10:07:09 AM PST by IvanT
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To: IvanT
What I'm worried about living here in Seattle is, like a poster on another thread said, that if Osama bin Laden came knocking on a door in the city there's a 50/50 chance that the person answering will let him in for the night. I give it about a 25% chance of him being invited to a drum circle in the morning.
So we have the worst of all worlds: a lax Canadian enforcement of incoming aliens into their country, a border like a sieve, and local politically correct citizens that don't think Islamikazis are out to kill us.
20 posted on 12/31/2002 10:13:14 AM PST by lelio
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To: ewing
I'm sure this story surprises exactly nobody.
21 posted on 12/31/2002 10:14:52 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: lelio
What could be done with it?

There was a thread on DU.com dummies yesterday (I was looking to see how they "feel" about the 5 terrorists and open boarders )where they were talking about all the drugs givin to military personel, like speed and stuff, to keep them going. How would Democrats know that even if it were true?

22 posted on 12/31/2002 10:38:20 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: All
bump
23 posted on 12/31/2002 10:39:46 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: concerned about politics; ewing
So, has the INS sent them their visas yet? </sarcasm>
24 posted on 12/31/2002 10:40:36 AM PST by batter
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To: soccer8
So, has the INS sent them their visas yet? </sarcasm>

They're probably in the mail right now.

25 posted on 12/31/2002 10:53:46 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: lelio
FOX was busy seriously inerviewing the alien clone people. (Who were not required to show one spot of evidence before being given international attention.)
26 posted on 12/31/2002 11:32:22 AM PST by Libertina
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To: Grampa Dave
Who would have ever thought that these Islamokazis got into Canada and then the US using fake passports.

I still travel to/from Canada using a 3.5 year-old driver's license (before some minor security enhancements).

Both governments ask for birth certificate or passport, but will let you through with "I don't have a passport" and "Sorry, I didn't know."

27 posted on 12/31/2002 11:33:13 AM PST by Abar
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To: lelio; concerned about politics
In a nutshell: someone broke into TriWest, a military medical insurance contractor, and stold information that consists of 500k military medical records

Sounds like a life insurance company looking for info on how to adjust rates.

28 posted on 12/31/2002 12:31:12 PM PST by Shermy
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To: lelio
So we have the worst of all worlds: a lax Canadian enforcement of incoming aliens into their country, a border like a sieve, and local politically correct citizens that don't think Islamikazis are out to kill us.

This is because they don't have a clue about anything more than 25 miles outside of King County. The 3000 dead from 9-11 are not real to them, just a fairy tale trying to intrude on thir self-involved lives.

Once Al Qaeda has taken advantage of their naivete and killed thousands of people in, say, Seattle, they might start seeing things differently.

Of course, there are many "progressives" in the area who are so self-effacing and morally flaccid that they will embrace suicidal denial, even when staring their own deaths in the face.

29 posted on 12/31/2002 5:07:15 PM PST by Imal
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To: Grampa Dave
Can we sue Canada??
30 posted on 12/31/2002 6:39:32 PM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: ewing
The FBI wants to question the men-believed to be Pakistani-in its probe of a group that makes false documents and passports

If they were investigating AT THE TIME OF THE ENTRY, then they are incompetant (again.)

In the articles I read, it was "in connection with" a false passport (British)(sic Brits or INS investigation) who were smugglers (sic Brits and / or US Customs) and the alert was issued by the FBI. ...also, the NY Post reported 19 whacki Pakis. That tells me the NYPD tipped the Post. The FBI said 5 as they didn't want themselves to look any worse in a serious situation or they do not know the ID of the other 14. The seriousness REQUIRED their notifying the public - for safety and because they do not know how to catch these guys in time without the public, luck or another agebcy doing the work that they will take credit for...

31 posted on 12/31/2002 6:58:54 PM PST by Henchman
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To: lelio
yeah, but. They won't nuke us here because they wouldn't want to soil their own backyard. Or frontyard in this case.
32 posted on 01/01/2003 1:58:54 AM PST by MarMema
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To: ConservativeMan55
martyrdom videos
33 posted on 01/01/2003 2:02:26 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Not exactly the same guys, but somehow they are linked to this whole mess. I think.
34 posted on 01/01/2003 2:04:13 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Thank you.
35 posted on 01/01/2003 8:03:25 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
Can we sue Canada

Interesting question, lol.

If there are Canadian or British lawyers out there I would be interested in communicating privately with you to explore interesting hypothetical issues.

36 posted on 01/01/2003 8:17:04 AM PST by Aura Of The Blade
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