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9/11: Chavez financed Al Qaeda, details of $1M donation emerge
Militares Democraticos ^ | 12/31/02 | Editor - Militares Democraticos

Posted on 12/31/2002 5:25:32 PM PST by shanec

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To: All
By the way, "FBI" is open. Someone grab it quick so we can use it to flag them. They may could use some FReeper assistance one day. ;-)
51 posted on 12/31/2002 8:33:58 PM PST by Nita Nuprez
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To: shanec
Taking Chavez out seems like a much more important priority to me than Saddam. No one has suggested that Saddam funds al Qaeda, and Chavez is in our sphere of influence.
52 posted on 12/31/2002 8:37:50 PM PST by Deathmonger
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To: shanec; *Jihad_Next_Door; Grampa Dave; Clovis_Skeptic; ladyinred; veronica; Travis McGee; Shermy; ..
OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST
53 posted on 12/31/2002 8:39:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Deathmonger
Chavez is in our sphere of influence.

Bingo. Monroe Doctrine BTTT. The Founding Fathers never seize to amaze me with their foresight.

54 posted on 12/31/2002 8:44:42 PM PST by MattinNJ
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To: Deathmonger
No kidding. What is that called down there, the tri-country axis of al queda? There have been recent threads on that. Of course, the media has a new cloning story and an always popular missing person case they have chosen to go high profile with, when there are tragic abductions every day in this country. Any story that affects our well being as a nation, and that doesn't come from Washington, does not get passed on. Sickening.
55 posted on 12/31/2002 8:52:02 PM PST by madfly
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To: Free the USA; backhoe; Libertarianize the GOP; 2sheep; 4Freedom; Alamo-Girl; AnnaZ; Aliska; ...
fyi
56 posted on 12/31/2002 8:55:20 PM PST by madfly
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To: Lion's Cub; MsLady; smarticus; Lloyd227; Mudboy Slim; kitd-fohs; RedBloodedAmerican; dwilli; ...
fyi
57 posted on 12/31/2002 8:57:07 PM PST by madfly
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To: shanec
Hate to break it to you, but Bush and Rumsfeld don't care. Cheney doesn't care. They are either ignorant or uncaring about the Communist bloc which has formed to our south. When Brazil put a Communist, Lula, in power last year, you could barely hear a whisper from the administration.

The fact is, the Bush administration is so hellbent on Iraq that they are overlooking serious crisis points all over. Even worse they are proposing this war on Iraq is about terrorism - when in fact spots such as Venezuala and Chavez (not to mention Saudi Arabia) have a much more clear direct link to Al Qaeda.

58 posted on 12/31/2002 8:58:17 PM PST by fogarty
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To: madfly
A defector turning against their former bosses and telling tails is so common and so often filled with lies and exaggerations that I question how reliable the story really is.
59 posted on 12/31/2002 9:04:33 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: NormsRevenge
Wouldn't you give almost ANYTHING - to have input to the decision matrix that determines WHO gets their name added to the CIA "hit list"...

I would gladly serve -- with no compensation.
As list writer -- or "delivery boy"...
"Making a list, checking twice --- gonna make sure whose naughty or nice!"

Semper Fi

60 posted on 12/31/2002 9:07:53 PM PST by river rat
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To: madfly
Thanks for the ping and all you do to keep me informed.
Happy New Year!
61 posted on 12/31/2002 9:10:05 PM PST by sistergoldenhair
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To: shanec
Killing these guys is going to get easy.
62 posted on 12/31/2002 9:14:00 PM PST by Jimbaugh
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To: shanec
To be fair, when things were getting bad a couple weeks ago (what happened to the general strike??), CBS did allow on the evening news video of a woman saying he is becoming a dictator. But, if what this article says is true.....he is much more than that.....he is a terrorist.
63 posted on 12/31/2002 9:15:05 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: shanec
Great Pictures!

Happy New Year!
64 posted on 12/31/2002 9:15:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: shanec
I'm sure we will get around to Hugo sooner or later.
65 posted on 12/31/2002 9:16:40 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Nita Nuprez
They can't heeeeeeeear you.........

or me... guess it's just information overload

B
66 posted on 12/31/2002 9:45:16 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: shanec
Interesting, but I would like to hear it from a more well-established source, like the Washington Times or Post. Of course, the New York Times would never carry a story like this, since they would never criticize a fellow leftist.
67 posted on 12/31/2002 9:54:23 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Sparta
If a coup goes down, the CIA needs their hands out of the process because they have a tendancy to screw up.

1) We only know about CIA mistakes because if the CIA does its job properly, which it does most of the time, no one ever knows about it.

2) The corollary to #1 is that the mainstream press doesn't say much about CIA successes because it is counter to their left-wing agenda.

3) The CIA was very successful in the Panama Crisis and the Afghanistan War of the 80s, not to mention that it had an excellent record during the Cold War of getting access to the highest echelons of the Soviet political system.

68 posted on 12/31/2002 10:01:56 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: shanec
Thanks Shane for providing that valuable, inside information. I had no idea what was going on down there under Chavez.
69 posted on 12/31/2002 11:22:20 PM PST by WRhine
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To: shanec
Sept. 30, 2001- Petroleum World - Chavez's New Situation For President Chávez, the decision is awfully difficult. He is of the conviction that he is one of the main political players of the world. That he's recognized as a leader called upon to promote the universal struggle against globalization and neoliberalism. No one ignores that his efforts helped in the rebuilding of OPEC, whose head, Alí Rodríguez, -a man of his trust- was his choice for the position. To bring OPEC back to life he went to Baghdad to talk to Saddan Hussein andto condemn the embargo against Irak. He went to Libya to meet with Gaddafi at the residential ruins because of U. S. missiles in 1989 and to offer his fraternal solidarity. He brought Mohammed Khatami to Caracas and later visited him in Teheran, in the process of reaching concrete and strong agreements with Iran. The most important was the making of the axis of a powerful alliance to turn oil into a strategic element against globalization.

A momentous choice is before him. As President he has journeyed the entire planet blaming globalization and neoliberalism as the root of the pain of peoples. In all scenarios he has said that savage capitalism breeds on the power of an empire who practices it and imposes it on others. A new balance in world power is indispensable to humanize globalization and slow down neoliberalism. He believes to have conquered universal admiration in the frontal, daily battle against unipolarity. Does the empire hope to have us bring down the flags?

In the 48 hours following the terrorist attack he vanishes from sight. He would later say that he was in meditation. How can he forget that Fidel has delivered to him the relay symbols, ushering him as the rising leader in the battle against the empire? How can it be forgotten that Ghadaffi has pointed to him as the head of a new movement to conquer the dignity of imperialism's oppressed peoples? How not to recall that wondrous day in Malaysia, when rulers of 77 countries asked him to lead Southern nations in their renewed efforts towards justice and equity? Or the mail exchange with famous fellow Venezuelan Carlos Ilich Ramírez -"EL Chacal"- for whose extradiction so much has been done by the Ambassador to Paris? In his lonely reflection he turns his sight onto a magazine on his desk: The New Yorker with the 22 page report written by Jon Lee Anderson. The President has read it several times. He reads again the final paragraphs.

"Chávez acknowledged that there is still misunderstanding and confusion in the U. S. over his policies. On this he said: "Until recently, what was under discussion, here and abroad, was to appease Chávez." Let's be nice to him to see if we can tame him" easily.

But it seems this beast is not too easy to tame." He lowered his voice and, this time, he did not smile. "This is an ideological conviction of mine and nothing will change that."***

Fidel, Saddam and Hugo --An improbable but growing friendship of three military revolutionaries*** Mr. Chávez is the most intriguing new leader to emerge in Latin America since Mr. Castro - and he is the lynchpin between Mr. Castro and Mr. Saddam. Although Cuba had been sending doctors and health workers to Iraq for years, there had not been any major contacts between the two countries until Mr. Chávez appeared on the scene. This fall, Mr. Chávez became the first democratically elected foreign head of state to visit Iraq since the Gulf War, ostensibly to invite Mr. Saddam to a summit of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. But it also was an in-your face gesture toward the United States.***

70 posted on 01/01/2003 1:38:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
bttt and Happy New Year.
71 posted on 01/01/2003 5:48:29 AM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
Happy New Year madfly.
72 posted on 01/01/2003 5:53:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sabertooth
Watch for the Venezuelan - Al Qaeda connection to show up at the Panama Canal, too.

Jimmy Carter - again.
Man, the lefties have sold out our country to no end.
Vote anti-democrat. Do it for the nation - seriously!

73 posted on 01/01/2003 5:57:18 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Sabertooth
"Watch for the Venezuelan - Al Qaeda connection to show up at the Panama Canal, too."

With so much going on I forgot about our vulnerability since we lost the Panama Canal. Can you elaborate a little on what you mean? Are you referring to a past/present connection or a future interlude between aQ-Venz at the Canal?

74 posted on 01/01/2003 6:03:26 AM PST by Paulie
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To: sistergoldenhair
You are very welcome and

a very happy new year to you, too!


75 posted on 01/01/2003 7:37:05 AM PST by madfly
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To: Sabertooth
"Watch for the Venezuelan - Al Qaeda connection to show up at the Panama Canal, too."

I'm not sure what you're alluding to, but I firmly believe all roads (and smuggling men and weapons through the Panama Canal) lead back to Beijing. Apparently, Zemin managed to convince al-Qaeda and the assorted other enemies of the US that we could be brought down if everyone ganged up on us.

Whether we survive as a nation or not will depend on where we are in God's timeline. Human nature being what it is, there will be ample opportunity to break up some of the cogs unless God has decided it's time for the US to fade in power. And I suspect that decision will be made on the basis of the character we exhibit.

76 posted on 01/01/2003 7:50:23 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Lion's Cub
clinton/gore---carter...axis of evil drive train---shaft!
77 posted on 01/01/2003 9:28:52 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Lion's Cub
"...I firmly believe all roads (and smuggling men and weapons through the Panama Canal) lead back to Beijing. Apparently, Zemin managed to convince al-Qaeda and the assorted other enemies of the US that we could be brought down if everyone ganged up on us."

Chavez has put 4.5 Billion $'s in Chinese banks and China is the biggest investor in Venezuela now with more committed there than in all the rest of South America combined, even if we include their Mexican investments, too.

Also, Chavez is clearly supporting Castro well beyond just rhetoric with "Free" oil 'in trade' for Cuban advisors running secret 'internal security' training camps there.

Also, FARC/ELN Columbian revolutionists, that US is fighting, are partially supported materially in exchange for lucrative drug trade that's transported via official health dept vehicles here across Venezuela with Puerto Rico as the foreign destination.

Relationship with Gaddafi and support of his regime has secured Katushka missles and their Libyan technicians here in Venezuela.

With Saddam Hussein, Chavez has both supported and trades with his regime, including oil processing shenanigans at Venezuela refineries to cover up the Iraqi original source.

He also formed and supports "Circulos Bolivarianos" all over the world, and is paying them on a monthly basis. There are even some in the States: New York, San Francisco, Houston, amongst other places. The more active ones are in Europe. They are 100% subversives, paid for with Chavez government money.

His goal is clearly not in having the countries oil revenues trickle down to the needy and is why, after five years of empty promises, he's even largly lost their support as well.

Yes, it's no wonder China would be so comfortable partnering with the Chavez regime.

Regarding the U.S. waking up to all this, I'm a bit cynical and if I had to bet I'd be concerned the US govt usually takes the shortsighted and short-term "whatever will provide oil stability stand". With little regard to longer term reprecussions to the people or nation there or the threat of terrorism supported by Chavez. So, we can look forward to the continuation and expansion of Hugo Chavez type innitiatives, such as...

Terror Threat from Venezuela: Al Queda Involved

Chavez bio-weapons lab in Venezuela for Saddam and Castro

-Shane

78 posted on 01/01/2003 9:38:16 AM PST by shanec
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To: river rat
Neutering the CIA and its ability to operate in a forward and direct manner to effect change was a big mistake. I believe we owe Mr. Ford a big "Attaboy Gerald" for that. He was the man who reined it in re: EO; no more splatting foreign heads,dictators or other malcontents... and did a real bangup job on the Warren Commission.

We Have Real Enemies that shouldn;t be around.. Call me judgmental.. Fine. Let the ol' man decide. But for now, Mr Bush has taken the gloves off and is prepared to kick some Arab butt... and hopefully, whack smack some local South American head of state. NK is a whole 'nother matter. Semper Fi
79 posted on 01/01/2003 9:42:18 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I think the fact that this did not come from the US government would give it more credence.
80 posted on 01/01/2003 9:44:05 AM PST by nonliberal
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To: madfly
Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!
81 posted on 01/01/2003 10:12:13 AM PST by blackie
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To: Chad Fairbanks
and people wonder why I harbor such hatred for commie pinko scumbags, like Chavez - and his american counterparts in the liberal wing of the democratic party...

I don't.

5.56mm

82 posted on 01/01/2003 10:15:17 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: nonliberal
You need to look at the motivations of the groups involved.
83 posted on 01/01/2003 10:19:29 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: shanec; thinden; honway
Also, FARC/ELN Columbian revolutionists, that US is fighting, are partially supported materially in exchange for lucrative drug trade that's transported via official health dept vehicles here across Venezuela with Puerto Rico as the foreign destination.

Very interesting. That would explain the hullabaloo over the Navy bombing range. Shipments can meet with unforseen delays when the Navy is on the sea and in the air...

84 posted on 01/01/2003 10:38:15 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: shanec
I have a friend who was once a snipper for our government. He used to be called upon to take flights to far away lands and assassinate people he did not know. Hopefully there are others who have taken his place. I can't think of a better excuse for such action than this scumbag.
85 posted on 01/01/2003 10:47:48 AM PST by Rockitz
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To: Rockitz
Ideally, I hope he resigns, the next govt there could use that legit start without any overhang of an illegal coup or possible CIA involvement clouding it. Besides, Chavez has a mansion in Cuba, been shipping furnishings and goodies to it for quite a while now. I got that direct from that former pilot (Airforce Major Juan Diaz Castillo) who flew Chavez's version of his Air Force 1, which is a custom Airbus. He had made a dozen trips shuttling Chavez to Cuba in it and only left him about 2 months ago to join the rest of the top military protesting Chavez at www.militaresdemocraticos.com before just recently arriving here.

But, either way, he has to go.

-Shane

86 posted on 01/01/2003 11:18:29 AM PST by shanec
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To: belmont_mark
PING!!
87 posted on 01/01/2003 2:41:33 PM PST by Orion78
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To: glock rocks
howdy!
88 posted on 01/01/2003 4:35:44 PM PST by Madcelt
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To: Bobibutu
cASTRO HAS HIS INTELLIGENCE AGENTS AND SOLDIERS IN KEY POSITIONS OF THE CHAVEZ ADMINISTRATION. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT CASTRO IS THE godfather TO ONE OF CHAVEZ' CHILDREN. YES CHAVEZ SENDS OIL TO CASTRO. HOWEVER, WHO HELPS CHAVEZ WITH PROPPING UP HIS REGIME IN THE POLITICAL ARENA. CASTRO AS WELL AS CASTRO HAVING ALLIGNED HIMSELF WITH HUSSEIN AND AL-QAEDA.
89 posted on 01/01/2003 4:48:32 PM PST by alfons
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To: Diogenesis
In Venezuela, Lenin Ramirez Sanchez, electrical engineer from the Central University of Venezuela,
and brother of "Carlos the Jackal", is director of the oil ministry.


Background info is at this URL:

http://www.petroleumworld.com/story9511.htm

(not that I didn't trust you, Diogenesis....but when I say "what the h-ll?" to a
posting, I've got to go find more info for myself!)
90 posted on 01/01/2003 5:01:36 PM PST by VOA
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To: shanec
Transcript of House Western Hemipshere Subcommittee Hearing, October 10, 2001***(J. Curtis Struble, Deputy Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs, U.S. Department of State)…………….. Further south, in what is known as the tri-border area, where Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay converge, we see the longstanding presence of Islamic extremist organizations, primarily Hizballah and, to a lesser extent, the Sunni extremists group of al Gamaat, IG, and Hamas. These organizations are involved in fundraising activities and proselytizing among the large expatriate population from the Middle East that lives in the tri-border area and also on Venezuela's Margarita Island. These organizations engage in document forgery, money laundering, contraband smuggling, and weapons and drug trafficking. Hizballah is the prime suspect behind the 1992 bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires and the 1994 bombing of the Argentine Israel Mutual Association community center. These attacks were characterized by the same faceless cowardice that we saw on September 11, and they remain unsolved to this day, although I am pleased that the trial in the 1994 bombing is now underway in Buenos Aires. We hope the perpetrators will at last be brought to justice.

……………..In the tri-border area of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay, Middle East terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hizballah train terrorists and conduct fundraising activities in an area which has a growing population of Middle Eastern and South Asian immigrants. Funds raised in the tri-border area are sent directly to the Middle East to support the operation of these organization, possibly even the planning and execution of terrorist acts. I have no doubt that funds raised in the tri-border area have made it to the pockets of Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden. Afghanistan produces 75 percent of the world's heroin. The Taliban reaps tremendous profits from such trade and use them to sponsor Osama Bin Laden and other terrorists. As Americans, we must recognize that fighting the war on drugs is tantamount to fighting the war on terrorism. Every time an American boy buys cocaine or heroin, they are directly funding the terrorists who are responsible for the deaths of over 6,000 innocent Americans.

Today, the Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere will hear from a distinguished panel of official witnesses who will provide us with important testimony about the type of terrorist organizations operating in our hemisphere, the links between international terror and drug trafficking, and the efforts of the OAS and its member states to help our nation win the war on terrorism. While I have no doubt that these panelists will provide the Subcommittee with excellent testimony, I am profoundly troubled that Otto Reich has yet to be confirmed as the Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs. At this time, the President needs to have his nominee confirmed and in place to fight both drug trafficking and terrorism in Latin America.

……………..Mr. STRUBLE. There are large expatriate populations in a number of areas in Latin America. The tri-border region has been mentioned before. There is also Santa Margarita Island in Venezuela, the Colon Free Trade Zone in Panama, and then a number of others throughout the hemisphere. We are quite concerned about the possibility or in some instances the certainty of financial transactions from these areas supporting terrorist groups in the Middle East. Mr. Mack alluded before to the efforts of INL over a number of years to give countries the tools, help them develop the tools, and work multilaterally in this hemisphere to control money laundering through more effective sharing of financial transaction information.****

91 posted on 01/02/2003 12:20:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
From Air Force Major Diaz Castillo, quoted in the above article, comes this, too:

During the operation, he also reported to Brigadier General Pedro Torres Finol, of the Venezuelan Air Force. Due to his higher rank, he was present at more meetings than Major Diaz Castillo, with more insiders.

Pedro Torres Finol was eliminated afterwards by Chavez, in an helicopter crash set up look like an accident. The "accident" happened over the Avila mountain, en route between La Guaira and Caracas, 19 April 2002. Diaz Castillo said that he had direct contact with Chavez for the Al Qaeda mission:

" - el tenia contacto directo con Chavez y recibio esta mision, la que se me transmitio de inmediato a mi."

After his brief ouster in the last April coup, one of the first things Chavez did upon his comeback was to eliminate those who had the most damaging information about him. Along with Gen. Torres Finol, two more generals also died in the pre-arranged crash. Chavez thus eliminated his main Al Qaeda connection witness.

-Shane

92 posted on 01/02/2003 8:20:03 AM PST by shanec
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To: All
Here's one of the expose articles that expands on the Latin American threat to both their region and the USA that you'll find over at that Venezuela military officers (who have left Chavez) web site here...
http://www.militaresdemocraticos.com/articulos/en/20021227-01.html

-Shane


Brazilian Plotter Buys Time for Chavez; Has Links to Terrorists and to Saddam


Marco Aurelio Garcia
By Johan Freitas, in Caracas

" - We have to first give the impression that we are democrats," says Marco Aurélio Garcia, the hardline marxist behind president-elect Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of Brazil. "Initially, we have to accept certain things. But that won't last," he warns.1

Marco Aurelio Garcia was in Venezuela last week, lending a helping hand to another make-believe democrat, Hugo Chavez. The country's general strike has left pumps dry and motorists stranded. The effects of the strike threaten to unseat Chavez. But now, thanks to Marco Aurelio Garcia, Chavez just bought himself some time: A Brazilian tanker, the Amazon Explorer, is on its way with 520.000 barrels of gasoline from the Brazilian oil company Petrobras.

Why the urgent need to personally arrive and help out? Why would Brazil intervene to break-up a strictly Venezuelan strike? Why does Lula want Chavez to stay?

A closer look at Marco Aurelio Garcia, the man behind the plan...

"Democracy is just a farce for taking power"
In interview with the French "Le Monde", Brazil's President-elect Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva repeats words taught to him by Marco Aurélio Garcia when he calls a democratic election a "farce" that is merely a necessary step for the taking of power in a nation.2

For Marco Aurelio Garcia, these words are not just theory. He lived them personally, from 1969 to 1973 when he was a foreign political activist in Chile during the Salvador Allende regime.3 Allende was democratically elected, but once in power used the government to close newspapers and harshly control his political opposition. In a public scandal, huge caches of Cuban weapons were found in his home, sent from Cuba's president Fidel Castro to arm citizen militias to "defend the socialist revolution" in Chile. A Brazilian was a key helper. This was Marco Aurelio Garcia's first contact to Cuban operatives abroad.

In 1980, Marco Aurelio Garcia founded 'PT', the Brazilian Worker's Party, with Lula da Silva. Ever since founding the party, he has been its international affairs advisor.

Fast forward to 1990. Spurred on by Castro, who by this time had orchestrated military incursions in more than 30 different countries, Marco Aurelio Garcia calls a meeting of all left-wing groups from Latin America and the Caribbean. Representatives from 48 different communist parties and terrorist groups attend. This becomes the "Foro de São Paulo", which is founded with Marco Aurelio Garcia as its head -- a title which he still holds today, 12 years later.

The Sao Paulo Forum: Supporters of terrorism
As the leader of the Sao Paulo Forum, Garcia controls and coordinates the activities of subversives and extremists from the Rio Grande to the southernmost tip of Argentina.
Several of the members of the Sao Paulo Forum are terrorists. Some are on the FBI's Most Wanted list. But this is not a coincidence. The Sao Paulo Forum, under the auspices of its executive secretary Marco Aurelio Garcia, has made it a policy to support terrorist groups. Consider this quote from its 10th Congress, which took place NEW-AXIS December 7, 2001 in Havana, Cuba, and which refers to the terrorist groups ELN and FARC of Colombia:
"9. Ratify the legitimacy, justice and necessity of the Colombian organizations' fight and our solidarity with them."

The new axis of terrorism starts with Cuba, then works its way down to Colombia, financed with Venezuelan oil billions, and ends in budding superpower Brazil.

In a policy dictated by Havana, Cuba, the Sao Paulo Forum leader Marco Aurelio Garcia has shown special interest in named terrorist Manuel Marulanda Velez, a.k.a. 'Tirofijo', leader of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). Every year from 1990, Garcia has made it his priority to personally meet with FARC. The meetings have not just taken place in Havana (with Fidel Castro himself being always present), but also in Mexico, where Marco Aurelio Garcia travelled to meet with FARC-member Marco León Calara on Tuesday, December 5 2000.

What they talk about is a matter that remains behind closed doors. But every time they meet, FARC always increases its attacks in the weeks that follow, with a high cost in loss of human lives.

What's in store for Brazil - and the region...
Brazil's foreign policy, under the guidance of Marco Aurelio Garcia , will be designed in Havana, Cuba. Garcia's Brazil will actively work against current United States policy, starting with it's policy towards Fidel Castro: "We'll attempt to eliminate the trade embargo against Cuba," he promises.4

Marco Aurelio Garcia describes his party, PT, as "radical, of the left, socialist"5. But Garcia is more than radical, and more to the left of mere socialists. Because Garcia is, in fact, a hardline communist. He wants to revive communism. In an article which he wrote about 'The Communist Manifest' by Karl Marx, he ended saying that: "The agenda is clear. If this new horizon which we search for is still called communism, it is time to re-constitute it."6

Marco Aurelio Garcia works closely with other marxist politicians around the world and appears in anthologies whose other participants read like a who's-who of international terrorism supporters. From Cuba, we meet Dario Machado and Marta Harnecker. From China, YunLin Nie, author of "The Communist Manifesto and Socialism with Chinese Characteristics". Pham Nhu Cuong represents Vietnam, and Mohamed Latifi is the Iranian contact. Extremists from democratic countries also collaborate, like Seppo Ruotsalainen ("The Revolutionary Process and Manifesto") from Finland, Alan Woods ("The Communist Manifesto Today") from England, and Pierre Zarka ("The Manifest of the Communist Party") from France. All share a deep and intense hatred of the United States, and everything that the West stands for.7

The Nuclear Weapons link to Saddam
Brazil used to have a nuclear weapons development program, which they stopped at the request of the United States. But now, with Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva in charge and Marco Aurelio Garcia directing foreign strategy, there are plans for the program to be silently reactivated. Nuclear capability is necessary for the strong anti-Americanism of Marco Aurelio Garcia and the terrorist groups which he supports through the Sao Paulo Forum.

From a nuclear Brazil, there are links to Saddam Hussein in Iraq. The first link is Hugo Chavez. The second, Sao Paulo Forum co-founder Fidel Castro. Hugo Chavez is Saddam's best friend in Latin America, and has personally visited and supported Saddam Hussein. After the first Chavez visit, Fidel Castro then sent his right-hand man, Rodrigo Alvarez Cambras, to Iraq for personal discussions with Saddam as well. Up until now, the trio of Saddam-Castro-Chavez has only worked together on bio-weapons. But from January 2003, with Lula taking power in Brazil, nuclear warheads will be added to the mix as well. It is just a matter of time. And with the rescue package of Brazilian gasoline to Chavez, Marco Aurelio Garcia just bought some more time for the beleaguered Venezuelan president.
In a world where totalitarian dictatorships are still very much alive, nothing would please Marco Aurelio Garcia more than to see Saddam go nuclear.

More information: www.MilitaresDemocraticos.com


REFERENCES:

1: “La Nación”, Buenos Aires (Argentina) 5 October 2002.
2: Le Monde, Paris: "En privé, Lula, âgé de 56 ans, pense tout haut que l'élection est une "farce" et qu'il faut en passer par là pour prendre le pouvoir".
3: Article in "O Estado de S. Paulo" Newspaper (Sao Paulo, Brazil), Monday, Nov 6 2000: "Quem é Marco Aurélio Garcia"
4: Emilio J. Corbière, quoting Marco Aurelio Garcia in: "Lulazo, populismo y desarrollismo", published in "La Fogata, el fuego de la lucha revolucionaria" 28 October 2002
5: Marco Aurélio Garcia, "A social-democracia e o PT", from Revista Teoria & Debate N° 12, Sao Paulo, Oct/Dec. Issue 1990
6: "O Manifesto e a refundação do comunismo", by Marco Aurélio Garcia, published in Teoria e debate, nº 36. Brazil. 26 January 2001.
7: Source: Internatif, France (2002)

December 27, 2002

93 posted on 01/03/2003 1:49:20 PM PST by shanec
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To: shanec
WorldNetDaily.com: "DEFECTOR: CHAVEZ GAVE $1 MILLION TO AL-QAIDA" by Art Moore (January 7, 2003)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30350
94 posted on 01/06/2003 11:04:58 PM PST by Cindy
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To: MattinNJ
And let us not forget that "democracy" usually becomes "dumbocracy" leading straight to Totalitarianism in all but the most bourgeois developed countries. Our program of trying to "lead by example" to create clones of the East Coast leftist version of "democracy" world wide has essentially erased whatever geopolitical gains we made during the 20th century. I'm with you 100%. Look what has happened in S. Korea as yet another example! And how about Brazil! Arghhhhh!
95 posted on 01/07/2003 10:58:26 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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Ping.
96 posted on 01/07/2003 11:14:28 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: shanec
LINKS OF INTEREST:

Newsmax.com - Search Term: "VENEZUELA"

YAHOO! News - Articles Search Term: "VENEZUELA"

NewsMax.com: HOT TOPICS: "CASTRO/CUBA"

YAHOO! News - Articles Search Term: "CUBA"

97 posted on 01/16/2003 4:25:22 PM PST by Cindy
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To: shanec
MILITARES DEMOCRATICOS.com: "BRAZILIAN PLOTTER BUYS TIME FOR CHAVEZ, HAS LINKS TO TERRORISTS AND TO SADDAM" by Johan Freitas, in Caracas (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Sao Paulo Forum: Supporters of terrorism As the leader of the Sao Paulo Forum, Garcia controls and coordinates the activities of subversives and extremists from the Rio Grande to the southernmost tip of Argentina. Several of the members of the Sao Paulo Forum are terrorists. Some are on the FBI's Most Wanted list. But this is not a coincidence. The Sao Paulo Forum, under the auspices of its executive secretary Marco Aurelio Garcia, has made it a policy to support terrorist groups. Consider this quote from its 10th Congress, which took place December 7, 2001 in Havana, Cuba, and which refers to the terrorist groups ELN and FARC of Colombia: "9. Ratify the legitimacy, justice and necessity of the Colombian organizations' fight and our solidarity with them." The new axis of terrorism starts with Cuba, then works its way down to Colombia, financed with Venezuelan oil billions, and ends in budding superpower Brazil. In a policy dictated by Havana, Cuba, the Sao Paulo Forum leader Marco Aurelio Garcia has shown special interest in named terrorist Manuel Marulanda Velez, a.k.a. 'Tirofijo', leader of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). Every year from 1990, Garcia has made it his priority to personally meet with FARC. The meetings have not just taken place in Havana (with Fidel Castro himself being always present), but also in Mexico, where Marco Aurelio Garcia travelled to meet with FARC-member Marco León Calara on Tuesday, December 5 2000. What they talk about is a matter that remains behind closed doors. But every time they meet, FARC always increases its attacks in the weeks that follow, with a high cost in loss of human lives.") (December 28, 2002)

98 posted on 01/27/2003 11:47:35 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a FRONT PAGE MAGAZINE (www.frontpagemag.com) article: "Colombia’s “Revolutionaries” and Their Helpers" By Michael Radu (January 28, 2003)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/830868/posts
99 posted on 01/27/2003 11:59:49 PM PST by Cindy
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To: shanec
YAHOO! News (REUTERS)"CHAVEZ' ARMED WOMEN IN BLACK" (February 1, 2003)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/834093/posts
100 posted on 02/01/2003 5:39:12 PM PST by Cindy
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