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DOCTORS SAY POSSIBLE WALKOUT IS NOT ABOUT GREED, BUT OUT-OF-CONTROL INSURANCE COSTS
AP Breaking News ^ | 01 January 2003 | Vicki Smith

Posted on 01/01/2003 6:49:29 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: templar
Well you certainly make some very valid points to contemplate.
101 posted on 01/02/2003 7:15:03 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: clintonh8r
Bump--A great point---Make them pay if they LOSE and they will back off to a rational level!!
102 posted on 01/02/2003 7:17:48 PM PST by BobFromNJ
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To: Boatlawyer
Not sure what you mean here,...

Referring to those who do things like trying sue planned parenthood without making absolutely sure they have valid legal grounds ( see this post) and the legal know how to back it up.

The system has some powerful built in protections in the form of annoyed judges.

Amen, brother. Amen.

103 posted on 01/02/2003 8:43:13 PM PST by templar
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
i've never met a doctor that wasn't into greed.

the parking lot of my docs reveals mb's, bmw's, and lexus'.

discussions reveal that their kids go to harvard, mit, stanford...etc.

when i was in the hospital one doctor charged my insurance at the rate of $1,000 per hour. my insurance company did not pay it. i got stuck with it.

ten days for pneumonia, $40,000. the insurance co left me stuck with $33,000 and a bad credit record.

a century ago medical doctors were integrated into the communities in which they lived; they made house calls.

today, medical school is regarded as a ticket to riches.

104 posted on 01/02/2003 8:48:09 PM PST by koax
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To: templar
Amen, brother. Amen.

That'd be Amen, sister, Amen! :)

105 posted on 01/03/2003 5:33:23 AM PST by Boatlawyer
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To: Boatlawyer
We also have a system that awards "reasonable and customary" fees and bonuses to ersatz "pro-bono" civil rights atties. Most people don't know how much $$ the ACLU extorts out of the system in actual fees, not just the donations they cry for.

The point being, the privilege you cite of the judge to zap the plaintiff's atty with costs and expenses when the defendant prevails is neither readily, customarily or commonly used. The plaintiff's atty feels no fear; all he has to lose is his time. The defendant *always* loses, even when he emerges victorious. That is what needs to be corrected. At the very least, a civil case should have a level playing field.

In family court, the losing plaintiff frequently ends up paying defense expenses, and in contract disputes. In tort case, loser pays? Not unless the plaintiff's atty also ends up in jail!

106 posted on 01/03/2003 8:44:37 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
This liability crisis is contrived and entirely the result of ineffecient insurance carriers mismanaging and taking advantage of the situation. If you look at loss ratios over the past 10 years for medical malpractice, you will see a very stable, and predictible level of payouts.....this all about the insurance industry making up for lost profits on their investments.
107 posted on 01/03/2003 8:47:48 AM PST by matthew_the_brain
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To: BobFromNJ
re: Bump--A great point---Make them pay if they LOSE and they will back off to a rational level!! )))

This absolutely terrifies the plaintiff's bar--that they might actually have to enter a courtroom on an equal footing with a defendant. It takes the extort out of torts...

You have to keep in mind that so many are lawyers by default...they get a useless undergrad degree they can't market, and the next step has to be law school. If you have a C average in basketweaving, there is some law school, somewhere, that'll take you in. Once they pass the bar, they don't have to go back and take any more schooling. Nurses, teachers, accountants...must school their whole lives.

Lawyers seem smarter than they are because they have carefully jimmied the system (through electing lawyer legislatures) to serve their advantage, not through some brilliance of intellect. Gabble a little legalbabble, and they can convince you of their wizardry--

108 posted on 01/03/2003 8:59:15 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: matthew_the_brain
That doesn't explain why it's cancelled outright. According to your theory (and you're in excellent company with the Lovely and Gracious Helen Thomas today...see Drudge) the premiums shouldn't be more than the yearly salary of the doc. Not to mention the underwriting disappearing altogether.

You've killed your goose. Eggs they are a dwindlin'. But, here's some comfort...those car accidents may offer a better payout for the lawyers now that there are fewer surgeons to sew people back together again. You'll have to follow the ambulances for longer distances, however. Funny how it never occurs to lawyers that someone they love (making some dangerous assumptions here) might need lacerations sutured by willing hands. And I have read a few here encouraging a mass lawyer-shoot some Thanksgiving.

109 posted on 01/03/2003 9:05:59 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Bump to a great post--You are right on about too many lawyers and their greedy grab on the democratic party- who in the end are behind the stalling on much needed tort reform!!
110 posted on 01/03/2003 12:06:02 PM PST by BobFromNJ
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