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Totalitarianism Nears (US=Nazi Germany, Moral-Equivalency BARF ALERT!)
Roanoke.com ^ | 1/3/03 | Glen T. Martin

Posted on 01/03/2003 1:08:16 PM PST by MikalM

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1 posted on 01/03/2003 1:08:17 PM PST by MikalM
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To: MikalM
Under the U.S. Homeland Security Act (our rights again given away freely by a bipartisan Congress), 22 U.S. agencies are combined in order to achieve "total information awareness" on every American citizen. The government will soon be amassing a file on every American that includes every magazine subscription, credit card purchase, Web site visit, medical record, library record, bank deposit or withdrawals, every airline purchase, as well as judicial, divorce records, and so on. This will be recorded in a central data base, not by a publicly accountable authority, but by the Pentagon, which already operates in total secrecy from the American public.

I see the good professor is letting William Safire do his research instead of verifying this himself. The HSA had NOTHING to do with TIA, and TIA is only at the concept stage, and will probably be either curtailed or killed, just as HSA killed TIPS (gee, the professor didn't mention THAT - just goes to show that sensationism is favored over rational analysis of the facts).

2 posted on 01/03/2003 1:11:57 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: MikalM
As long as they are free to shop in department stores and have traffic in the streets (with automobiles burning oil stolen from dying Iraqi children), they do not care.

He forgot about all the cute little dying puppies and adorable dying bunny rabbits with their wiggling wittle pink noses.

3 posted on 01/03/2003 1:13:12 PM PST by wideawake
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To: MikalM
If they wanna look in my computer, go ahead. I've done nothing illegal and have nothing to hide, so I'm not worried.
4 posted on 01/03/2003 1:14:30 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: MikalM
And to a greater degree every day, those few who do care about our liberties and rights are too terrified of our government to speak out.

Yeah, right. I guess that explains why there are anti-war protests around the country, countless Op-Eds in newspapers criticizing Bush, and thousands of anti-Bush websites.

5 posted on 01/03/2003 1:16:25 PM PST by dirtboy
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(with automobiles burning oil stolen from dying Iraqi children)

Actually, that's still the Germans, since Europe is the main market for Saddam's and the UN's so-called "oil for food" program.

6 posted on 01/03/2003 1:16:43 PM PST by Argus
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To: canuck_conservative
If they wanna look in my computer, go ahead. I've done nothing illegal and have nothing to hide, so I'm not worried.

Great defense of freedom, canuck. /sarcasm

7 posted on 01/03/2003 1:18:37 PM PST by zoyd
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To: MikalM
Perhaps the author should live in North Korea, Afhganistan or China if the US is so nazi-like.
8 posted on 01/03/2003 1:24:56 PM PST by Desecrated
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To: canuck_conservative
"I have nothing to hide"

Well why don't you walk around the park naked. You have
nothing to hide.

You remind me of my communist roommate.
9 posted on 01/03/2003 1:25:20 PM PST by Vindibudd
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To: MikalM
Careful Glen.
All that hand-wringing will give you carpal tunnel.

Excuse me while I hide my computer and get back to guard duty at the front window.
10 posted on 01/03/2003 1:26:51 PM PST by conservativemusician
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To: zoyd
Well, that's my choice. You have your own, and I'm not telling you how to make it.
11 posted on 01/03/2003 1:27:01 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
That's the spirit! Rummy and Poindexter send their love.
12 posted on 01/03/2003 1:28:17 PM PST by dljordan
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No matter who penned this, liberal or conservative, dem or repub, there is a LOT of truth here.
13 posted on 01/03/2003 1:29:33 PM PST by thepitts
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To: zoyd; canuck_conservative
Canuck's a belly-crawling quisling.

As for the "Barf Alert," I must agree that our brand of totalitarian police-state is sooo much better than the Nazi version. </sarcasm>

14 posted on 01/03/2003 1:30:18 PM PST by IMHO
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Well, that's my choice. You have your own, and I'm not telling you how to make it.

Great. So when Big Bro wants to install video cameras in every room of your house so they can watch you 24/7, you'll chime in with, "Well, I'm not doing anything illegal, I have nothing to hide, I have no concept of privacy, come on in and take over any shred of dignity and decency I have as a human being!"

I just wonder why someone as vacantly ignorant of the premises of freedom would want to call themselves a 'conservative'...

15 posted on 01/03/2003 1:32:48 PM PST by zoyd
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To: thepitts
No matter who penned this, liberal or conservative, dem or repub, there is a LOT of truth here.

And a lot of B.S. as well. The problem is, once the B.S. is added in, it makes everything smell like ...

16 posted on 01/03/2003 1:35:43 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: MikalM
Poor Martin is going to be so disappointed when his vision doesn't come true.

What an idiot.

Many more freedoms were given up in WWII to fight a war of survival and yet we as a country managed to recover from that nicely.
17 posted on 01/03/2003 1:38:24 PM PST by DB
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The astonishing thing about this "land of the free" is that most Americans now have no effective rights and do not care.

I care and that's why I'm planning on moving out. I hope it's not too late.

18 posted on 01/03/2003 1:45:15 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I care and that's why I'm planning on moving out. I hope it's not too late.

Fred, IMO the overreaction to 9/11 by lawmakers has halted and we will see a reversal of some of the more onerous provisions of the Patriot Act. And we're slowly winning over the minds of swing voters. So don't pack your bags just yet.

19 posted on 01/03/2003 1:47:15 PM PST by dirtboy
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Fred's gonna' move to the country of his neighbor and best bud - CUBA. Well, at least he'll get to smoke good cigars.
20 posted on 01/03/2003 2:08:58 PM PST by muleskinner
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