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My Oath
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| 01/02/2003
| Nicki Fellenzer
Posted on 01/06/2003 1:56:35 PM PST by EBUCK
My Oath
by Nicki Fellenzer
nicki_f@worldnet.att.net
January 2, 2003
Keepandbeararms.com -- Working with KeepAndBearArms.com on a daily basis has opened my eyes to an unsavory and frightening truth: a society of cowardly, paranoid, petulant nitwits has taken over America. Now, before I get excoriated for "hating America" or being an "unpatriotic antagonist," please allow me to explain.
I love this country. It is my adopted homeland, my ideal and my salvation. I have always held America dear as truly "the land of the free and the home of the brave." My idealized image of America included brave patriots standing up to tyrannical rule and winning an independent land, daring soldiers protecting the nation and brave innovators who had the guts to create a government "of the people, by the people and for the people." I saw America as the paradigm of courage, where every human being was brave enough to take responsibility for himself his family. I put my country up on a pedestal for being the only nation in the world appropriate as a home to those who value freedom enough to fight for it.
And now I look at the society of cowards residing in this country, and I doubt its worthiness of the great land our Founding Fathers envisioned. What kind of society have we become?
This is a society that time after time elects politicians whose only goals are power over those who elected them. And it is a society too scared not to cast a vote for the "lesser of the two evils" and too afraid of the changes such a vote might bring.
This is a society that bans "assault" weapons simply due to the cosmetic changes such weapons possess, because some people are too scared of a bayonet lug.
This is a society in which panicked citizens call the police because a water meter reader's wand resembles a firearm.
This is a society that criminalizes BB guns and toy guns while giving the authorities more real firepower to infringe upon individual liberties.
This is a society which is so scared and beaten, it allows airport screeners to grope and humiliate pregnant women and lets them force women into drinking her own breast milk and confiscate GI Joe dolls with tiny replica guns for fear that an evil terrorist will hijack a plane with a two-inch rifle.
This is a society that invents "gun-free" schools and "gun-free" public buildings as a vacuous panacea for an alleged "gun epidemic" shoved down its collective gullet by cowardly Moronic Mommies and the power-hungry band of buffoons at the Brady Center that holds their leashes and the leashes of pusillanimous politicians whose only purpose in their miserable, pathetic lives is to rule and wield power over others.
This is a society that sits idly by while its elected officials pass odious legislation which has every capability of turning this country into an Orwellian nightmare and then is too scared to open its mouth in dissent for fear of being tracked, prosecuted or branded as "unpatriotic" or "supportive of terrorists."
What is this society in which we live? Are the sniveling cowards who live in this nation deserving of the bounty and freedom this country offers? Are the sheep who are more than willing to give up personal responsibility to the nanny government, who are too scared to rely on common sense and would much rather depend on the state for their welfare and safety worthy of the idyllic land our Founding Fathers fought for?
They've taken over our schools, teaching children revisionism and relativism, while complacently watching them graduate with little more than a basic reading and mathematics ability.
They've taken over our government, sitting on their couches in a catatonic, potato-chip eating stupor, swallowing whole what the mainstream media and the power-hungry politicians feed them.
They've taken over the legal system, manipulating and cajoling juries with the collective intelligence of kumquats into making them rich as a reward for their weakness, stupidity or incompetence.
And we - who treasure this country for the ideal, moral nation it was created to be - are now condemned as "extremists." We have become pariahs in our own communities for deigning to treasure the Constitution. We're reviled as radicals and feared by these gutless, indolent morons as common delinquents. And for daring to respect the Law of the Land, we're compared to criminals.
This is not the country I envisioned when I came here as a child in the 1980's. I certainly couldn't have imagined that a horde of over-indulged, under-educated, self-righteous socialists would hijack this nation and attempt to enslave the rest of us. And yet, that's exactly what's happening. It's happening while many gun owners dismiss the paranoid blathering of socialist windbags as so much inconsequential panic mongering. It's happening while numerous gun rights supporters turn a blind eye to insolent names like "extremist," "radical" and "gun nut," writing them off as nothing but the childish chirping of the powerless and weak. And it's happening while countless law-abiding gun owners rely on the NRA to protect their inalienable rights, instead of standing up and fighting the blatant trampling of their freedoms.
Enough is enough!
Right here - right now, I make this promise to you: I will do everything in my power to ensure the true meaning of the Constitution doesn't become mired in propaganda, misinformation and lies.
I promise to write, phone, speak, educate and elucidate every chance I get, so that Americans never forget the extraordinary gift left to them by their Founding Fathers.
I swear I will not be complacent in ensuring my children learn the truth, learn to question, learn to recognize lies and not to be afraid to confront them head on - proud of who they are brave enough to stand up to those who would attempt to make them slaves "for the common good."
I will not allow vile lies to remain undisputed, and I will not allow vicious, condescending, ignorant epithets about those who treasure the Constitution and basic human rights to become part of the average American's lexicon.
And most important of all, I will never give up I will press on, plant my feet and dig in my heels. The campaign for our civil rights won't be easy. Some battles will undoubtedly be lost, and there will be times when I emerge bloodied, battered and bruised, but never beaten. Because if anything is worth fighting for, it's America, and I'm proud to take this oath for the ideal that is my country.
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posted on
01/06/2003 1:56:35 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK; *bang_list; blackie; madfly
....bump to list and ping...
2
posted on
01/06/2003 2:03:21 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
"Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never, in nothing, great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense!" Sir Winston Churchill
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:11:33 PM PST
by
pabianice
To: EBUCK
Click on the link in the article above and read about "groping and humiliating pregnant women." It's disgusting. Among other things, it's a perfect illustration of how cops lie outright on police reports in order to support charges being brought against a person who the officer knows has done nothing at all.
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:13:33 PM PST
by
Henrietta
To: EBUCK
This is a society that sits idly by while its elected officials pass odious legislation which has every capability of turning this country into an Orwellian nightmare and then is too scared to open its mouth in dissent for fear of being tracked, prosecuted or branded as "unpatriotic" or "supportive of terrorists."It's actually worse than that; the society didn't sit idly by, it stood up and cheered. If someone questions the legislation or even asks, "shouldn't the legislators have read the bill before passing it?", they respond by posting pictures of the WTC, scream hysterically that we're at war, and they're the ones applying the brand of "unpatriotic".
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:14:45 PM PST
by
alpowolf
To: EBUCK
Good for you, EBUCK. Have you ever considered a job as a lobbyist? You can persue your passion and get paid for it, too.
To: alpowolf
That's what gets me the worst...all the "led" telling the patriotic that they are in fact unpatriotic.
Questioning authority is what made this country what is was. Subservience is what got us where we are.
I sometimes think that this is all backlash from the 60's. When it was a hippie/commie/druggie thing to question our masters. Now, the right seems to not be able to let go of that perception.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:18:54 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: Blood of Tyrants
I didn't write that if that's what you were implying.
I fully agree with it but to go so far as working in that snake pit, working within the corrupt system, I don't think so. I prefer the view from afar.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:20:18 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
Questioning authority is what made this country what is was. Subservience is what got us where we are. I agree. I regard questioning authority as one of the most important duties of a Citizen. Of course that doesn't go over well with the "Comrade Napoleon is always right" crowd.
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:30:47 PM PST
by
alpowolf
To: EBUCK
This is a little off topic but I do not know how to post. This seems an appropriate thread to ask this question.
The Friday after Christmas, 12/27/02, I went into a Wal-Mart and purchased a 30-06 rifle. I was told that the feds had a three day waiting period.
When I called today, 01/06/03, I was told that it was still being delayed by the feds. Is this long of a delay normal?
I purchased a 9 mm handgun shortly after 911 with no delay at all. What's going on with this delay?
Any serious and non-sarcastic replies will be appreciated. :-)
To: PatriotGames
When I called today, 01/06/03, I was told that it was still being delayed by the feds. Is this long of a delay normal?Only if you're a felon not released from disability.
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:40:42 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: EBUCK
It is sad what you have to go through in airports these days. And what those screeners did to those women is indefensible. But will aanything happen to the screeners, probably not. The will say they did what they did in the interest of security. They take away small G.I. Joe guns. But they let my key chain through, which is a climbing carabiner. Which is more dangerous 2 inches of plastic or 15 ounces of aircraft aluminum (the weight of my carabiner)? One of my friends was hauled out of his car by the police at gun point because someone thought his cell phone was a gun. America is still the most free nation on Earth, but we are fast becoming just like the place described in George Orwell's "1984"
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:43:34 PM PST
by
flynhghr
To: PatriotGames
The whole system is a crock and Wal-Mart is one of the worst.
What Wal-Mart is doing, because they sold a weapon or two to people that shouldn't have gotten it-the Fed system dropped the ball, is running all aplications thru an extended background check, above what is required by law. To cover their own asses I imagine.
What you got with the 9 is beyond me. Sounds like the background check was skipped altogether. Which, if I remember correctly, isn't your responsibility, it's the shops responsibility. Did you pay for the background check?
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:46:14 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
I'm with you, and the author........
All the liberals and bush-bots in the world cannot deter my resolve.
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:47:02 PM PST
by
WhiteGuy
To: flynhghr
1984 is coming. And in the name of terrorism to boot.
Security at the price of liberty, someone warned us of that once.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:47:46 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: WhiteGuy
All the liberals and bush-bots in the world cannot deter my resolve.I don't even call them bush-bots anymore. More like right-bots. 40 years of loosing have turned the right into gibbering idiots content to lick the lessers boots and actually relieved at the opportunity. If we can keep the "right" in office for a while we will see a bit of refinement as we start getting the choice of right vs RINO rather than RINO vs RAT. It all depends on how long we can hold them RATs back.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 2:51:58 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
The gunstore proprietor called the feds while I was at the store and approved the 9 mm on the spot.
I didn't pay for a background check then nor did I pay for a background check this time around.
To: Poohbah
I am definitley not a felon. I have no record of any crimianl activity whatsoever.
I've never been disabled.
To: PatriotGames
Did somebody mistype your info into the instant check system?
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posted on
01/06/2003 3:03:19 PM PST
by
Poohbah
To: PatriotGames
It costs 15 bucks here in Oregon, maybe that cost is included in the price whereas we get to be slapped with it in obvious fashion.
But, it has been a few years since I purchased a new weapon, so the lighting speed call in check must have finally become a reality.
And the is Wal-Mart's policy, see here.
http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/first/0708-114.html
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 3:09:14 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: PatriotGames
On another note. I've vowed to only patronize local, small, shops and shows. I was close to picking up a Wally World Special but couldn't do it. Ended up finding a very nice Mauser 7x57 at a gun show. Mostly because of their dubious practices but partly because I feel safer dealing with people that depend on me for business. MalMart could loose me as a customer and never feel it, not true with the local guy.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 3:14:40 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
And it's happening while countless law-abiding gun owners rely on the NRA to protect their inalienable rights, instead of standing up and fighting the blatant trampling of their freedoms.Yawn.
And who does he think makes up the NRA? Someone from Outer Space? The NRA was out there on election night ringing doorbells, standing outside the polls, handing out flyers and working for "A" rated candidates.
The NRA members are "not countless". There are approximately four and a half million members which is only 5% of all the gunowners. Driving a wedge between the gun groups like this web site continues to do accomplishes nothing. In fact, I was so sure the author was going to slam the NRA that I looked for that paragraph. Sure enough, It's there. Instead of slamming the NRA, the web site should be encouraging more members to join the gun group of their choice.
Get every gunowner to join a gun group
Work for A rated candidates.
Defeat the socialists
Pass Pro-gun laws.
Now how hard is that to understand?
To: Shooter 2.5
Instead of slamming the NRA, the web site should be encouraging more members to join the gun group of their choice.AMEN!
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posted on
01/06/2003 3:57:57 PM PST
by
elbucko
To: EBUCK
It was a telephone conversation with a human being.
To: EBUCK
Thanks for the link re: Wal-Mart's policy and the related info. I shall seek a local owner as you suggest and I just might stay out of Wal-Mart forever. :-)
To: PatriotGames
Something similar happened to me. Acording to NICS there was an unresolved case from 20 years ago. I finally ended up going down to the courthouse and getting a notorized statement from the records clerk that there was nothing that she could find, going back to 1800.
To: EBUCK
What you got with the 9 is beyond me. Sounds like the background check was skipped altogether. NOT, they don't call it the instant background check for nothing, or at least not completely. I've bought two firearms subject to the check, one after 9-11. In both cases the check only took a few minutes. (The fact that I have no criminal record, am a former military officer, and have held fairly high security clearances both military and civilian, might have something to do with that). Some states require a longer waiting period. If the person has a common name, the check may take some time, and WalMart may be waiting for the check to be completed, rather than selling him the gun after 3 working days as allowed by law, but apparently discourged by the out of control BATFE (yes it's now a 5 letter agency, not a 4 letter one, (more letters usually indicates lower status on the pecking order, in this case it just indicates a name change to "Bureau of Alchol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives" as part of the legislation setting up the Homeland Security department. However BATFE is now shorn of all pretense that it's merely a tax collection agency, which might open up some interesting possibilities relative to National Firearms Act requirements, since that law was enacted under the power to tax, not the Interstate Commerce clause)
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posted on
01/06/2003 4:32:03 PM PST
by
El Gato
To: Shooter 2.5
Work for A rated candidates. I think I'd modify that to "Work for canidates who unfailingly support your right to keep and bear arms.", since I've seen some pretty squirly ratings from all the gun groups, not just the NRA.
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posted on
01/06/2003 4:39:32 PM PST
by
El Gato
To: Poohbah
"Only if you're a felon not released from disability."Not necessarily. I was arrested in 1987 in El Paso TX for assault. Charges were dropped. Re-entered California in 1991, thought I was complying with State law and registered a pistol through a dealer, waited over 30 days to have it released back to me. When I asked the dealer what the problem was, he played dumb and didn't offer any information. Called the DOJ Weapons Division in Sacramento to find out what the hold-up was. Apparently the charges in El Paso were never cleared out of the NICS as being dropped.
Could have saved myself the hassle and 25 dollars by not bothering to register the piece as I was not required to do so.
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posted on
01/06/2003 5:17:05 PM PST
by
semaj
To: EBUCK; PatriotGames
I try to encourage everyone I know to avoid buying anything relating to guns, hunting, or shooting at WallyWorld for the very reason that while they are getting such a good bye(pun intended)from Sam, their local shop is starved out. WalMart, like the store in Panorama City, will stop carrying the guns, ammo, and hunting equipment when it becomes too much of a hassle for the store. You then want to buy your shotshells for any price, and find the doors of your local gun shop closed. Buddy, you asked for it! I believe WM is the nations largest seller of firearms if not K Mart. Don't give these guys your gun business, and don't worry, you won't put them out of business and send all their minimum wage clerks to the unenployment office like you're doing to the well informed employees of gun shops.
To: Shooter 2.5
Amen! And contribute as much as you can to the ILA. One should also join his state's rifle and pistol association so as to be informed precisely of the legislation they may be able to influence. EBUCK and Nicki Fellinzer are going to write letters and ring phones. That's what the NRA and CRPA here in CA do. Let's ban the wedges and pull together. I admire EBUCK's and Nicki's drive, just don't drive a wedge. Contribute energy, money, ideas and solutions, not complaints and divisiveness.
To: Blue Collar Christian
Thanks. My post wasn't aimed against EBUCK. I'm just aware that the website, Keepandbeararms.com doesn't have anything good to say about the NRA. If you check, the insults are usually there somewhere.
Angel, the creator of the website, was on a site that praised a writer for his abilities. When it was pointed out the writer didn't even own a gun, Angel jumped all over him. The guy should take a tip on handling people.
Once again, if we work together against the common enemy, gun contol, we can win.
To: EBUCK
Great post!
I know your frustration well. If only I could pound the pristine vision of the truth into their feeble brains or perhaps give it to them in suppository form to change the nature of the sheeple. But, alas! The sheeple won't change as long as they can afford their creature comforts and buy into the myth of the right to tranquiltiy and security. I too have shouted this from the mountaintops and been tempted to dance naked in the street to get people to listen and for the most part feel ineffective when reviewing the results. I see the cowards achieving similar results with a lot less effort.
Sorry I have to go. I'm late for my sensitivity training.
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posted on
01/06/2003 6:08:31 PM PST
by
Ches
To: EBUCK
Most of us are wasting rights other men fought and died for.
Gun control "protects" you from being able to shoot back.
It looks like it is about time to water that tree of Liberty again.
The New World Order isn't just a Conspiracy, it's a Political Agenda
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posted on
01/06/2003 7:48:39 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
To: Blue Collar Christian
Exactly. Not only is it more important to keep you local shops open than keep the big chains supplying thru what is only a perk for them, at the local shop you get people who know that they are talking about.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 9:15:28 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: Shooter 2.5
Now how hard is that to understand?So long as the NRA supports compromise on my 2nd ammendment rights they are going to loose people like me to no-compromise groups. But, there is nothing wrong with that, for the majority of gun owners, incrementalism means nothing.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 9:17:38 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
It's not the size of the gun, but how you use it that counts.
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posted on
01/06/2003 9:20:10 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
To: Shooter 2.5
I'm willing to work together, for the common goal. Full restoration of our Right to Keep and Bear Arms. I don't see that the NRA is doing that. They seem to be content with slowing the process or finding some happy sorta-kinda-right. I'm not happy with that.
I guess in the end neither group is really hurting the other (and I have seen KABA's complaints, some of which are unjustified but quite a few are) so long as we are working toward the same end. FULL RESTORATION, NOTHING LESS.
Stay safe.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 9:22:21 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: B4Ranch
The New World Order isn't just a Conspiracy, it's a Political Agenda That bears repeating. Over and over again until the sheeple realize that it is indeed true.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/06/2003 9:24:06 PM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
There is no such thing as a "No Compromise" gun group. We either have the votes in the Senate and Congress or we don't.
If you disagree with this, I would be happy to hear of a passed gun bill that will prove it differently.
To: Shooter 2.5
There sould be no "passed" gun bills. Only repealed ones.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/07/2003 8:52:51 AM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
I didn't word that correctly.
If you disagree with this, I would be happy to hear of a passed Pro-gun bill that will prove it differently.
To: Shooter 2.5
That's just the thing. There shouldn't be any pro-gun bills. We've already got the pro-gun law of the land, all other gun laws should be null and void per the constitution.
Please show me a passed pro-gun bill, and I'll show you a compromise of our right to Keep and Bear Arms, every time.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/07/2003 9:08:37 AM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
So what is your "no compromise" gun group doing about that?
Show me where they revoked or sunsetted an anti-gun bill.
In other words, show me a single incident where they are justified in using the term "no compromise".
Politics 101: When your losing, you compromise. When your winning, take everything. If and when we get the votes in the Senate, Congress or the Presidency, that's when we start winning. Not before. The proof of that will be the sunsetting of the Assault Weapons Bill.
To: Shooter 2.5
The proof of that will be the sunsetting of the Assault Weapons Bill.If that actually happens I'll feel quite a bit more secure...until the next time.
They are justified in unsing no-compromise because they only support no compromise politicians and policy.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/07/2003 9:42:37 AM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
Every army has had it's suicide squadrons.[and I don't mean that in a bad way]
It take all the gun groups working together.
To: Shooter 2.5
Ok, we'll work together, in diferent fashions.
I guess anti gun nuts can always be thankfull to be able to work with the NRA as opposed to some of the other groups..
I pinged you to a thread I just posted...good one too.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/07/2003 10:08:59 AM PST
by
EBUCK
To: EBUCK
The NRA doesn't work with anti-gun nuts. They lobby with A,B and C rated politicians in order to fight gun control.
Case in point. The NRA was faced with the Brady Bill that mandated a 15 day waiting period. That was later brought down to a three day waiting period. When it passed, it was the instant check through the work of the NRA. Does the NRA support the Instant Check? No, they do not. It was the only way a three day waiting period could be stopped.
To: Shooter 2.5
But still a compromise that will lead us into a national registration scheme. Face it, the NRA has been bought and paid for. Your 4.5 million members could do far better elsewhere IMO.
EBUCK
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posted on
01/07/2003 11:17:24 AM PST
by
EBUCK
(On guard in Oregon.)
To: EBUCK
I'll take that oath, too!
Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!
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posted on
01/07/2003 11:37:58 AM PST
by
blackie
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