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How Pro-Choice Women Sell Their Souls
IntellectualConservative.com ^ | January 11, 2003 | J. Grant Swank, Pastor

Posted on 01/11/2003 12:03:05 PM PST by az4vlad

The poised, smiling, and smooth Planned Parenthood spokeswomen who defend in "classy" terms the right to kill a child in a woman's womb.

"Would you speak to our class on behalf of the pro-life position?" the public school teacher asked me over the phone.

"Yes," was my immediate, glad response.

So there I was before the high school class, speaking on behalf of women, children, pregnancy, life, love, responsibility, hope, community, nurturing, and family. It was my privilege. It was a speaker's adrenaline rush.

The students were very attentive, far more than I had expected them to be. The teacher sat at her desk, appearing neutral on the subject at hand.

Then after I finished what I had to say, the Planned Parenthood rep came to the front of the room, presenting her position.

She looked like a model for a fashion magazine. She was exceptionally poised and of course well-spoken — smooth voice, smiling face, appropriate gestures while delivering her message — the works.

I could tell that she had the class in the palm of her hand. She knew her business and delivered it first-class.

Of course, what was behind her doublespeak was murder — sheer murder. She defended in classy terms the right to kill a child in a woman's womb. Not just a woman's womb, but a mother's womb. Mother and child go together in this scenario. So it was more than woman; it was mother, too.

Every time I am a part of one of these dialogues in the marketplace of our communities, I leave with a sick feeling way in the pit of my stomach. It is not only that I have had to endure one more charade of defending-the- right-to-kill-off- an-innocent-baby-who-has-no-say-in-the-matter; but also I have had to watch a female go sour right in front of all of our eyes.

It is, in spiritual terms, another example of The Fall — the devilment come upon the human race because of mortals' disobedience to a loving, holy Creator God — the souring of the female He created originally in His own image.

How far can a female fall?

We are well aware of the female in the street, giving her body for pay. We are aware of the female who beats up her children, throws them in the lake or burns them alive in an abandoned house. We are aware of the female who clobbers her husband then calls the cops, claiming that he perpetrated the incident.

But to watch a perfectly manicured, well-bred, smiling female in front of children telling them in doublespeak how to murder a child — how it is their right to see a child obliterated if that is their wish — is truly one of the chilling stand-offs a morally sensitive person has to endure.

So it is that they are legion. They are womanning our television talk shows. They are co-hosting our morning telecasts. They are starring in our movies. They are sitting in our Congress. They are taking charge of governorships. They are writing our newspaper editorials and editing our flashy newsstand magazines. They are teaching our school children and becoming principals and school superintendents.

These females have turned sour all around us.

And all the while the snow falls upon meadows. Blue birds come to the feeders on a frosty morning. Mothers buy baby food in the corner grocery aisle. And boys and girls sled down the neighbor's hillside.

Females turning soul can appear as the most natural thing going. That's why it's so tragic, particularly when realizing its is actuality all around us.

Something akin to Hitler's soldiers gunning down the Jews in winter outside a quiet German metropolis.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; feminazis; feminists; fetus; naral; now; plannedparenthood; prochoice; prolife

1 posted on 01/11/2003 12:03:05 PM PST by az4vlad
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To: az4vlad
A choose life bump.
2 posted on 01/11/2003 12:07:03 PM PST by Politically Correct
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3 posted on 01/11/2003 12:09:03 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Human sacrifice for Gaea ping.
4 posted on 01/11/2003 12:17:10 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: az4vlad
BTTT cuz babies rule.
5 posted on 01/11/2003 12:17:16 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Get your spiritual house(s) in order, NOW!)
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To: Uncle Bill
bttt
6 posted on 01/11/2003 12:24:01 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: az4vlad
Here's a TV ad I'd like to see:

"Are your credit card debts too high?"

"Can't seem to save up enough for the things you really want?"

"Not sure they guy you're sleeping with is good enough to be a good father and husband?"

"Well we here at Planned Parenthood have a way to save you Hundreds of Thousands of dollars and ease your mind about any relationship."

"Just visit our clinic for a free meeting with one of our counselors."

"No salesman will call, so your parents need never find out, either."
7 posted on 01/11/2003 12:24:31 PM PST by lds23
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To: nunya bidness
When The Unborn Doesn't Go Quietly To His Execution
"I placed my little finger in his hand, and he grasped it..."
8 posted on 01/11/2003 12:27:24 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
BTTT
9 posted on 01/11/2003 12:29:51 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Get your spiritual house(s) in order, NOW!)
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To: az4vlad
Planned Parenthood's Greatest Threat and what the PP internal newsletter termed: "the newest and most challenging concept in anti-choice student organizing."

Women deserve better.

10 posted on 01/11/2003 12:32:01 PM PST by hillsborofox
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To: az4vlad
The insidious nature of our abortion on demand society is creeping ever forward. It is this 'rite' to slaughter that is now moving beyond women (women duped into believing the right to hire a serial killer is empowering in an enlightened way), to invade our medical fields.

Aborting individual human life is the dirty secret at the heart of 'therapeutic' cloning and embryonic stem cell research. Only, it's not perceived as wrong! Manipulating and exploiting the early stage in a lifetime already begun, harvesting the body parts of individual humans in their noraml state of existence, just because they can be torn asunder with legal immunity, is not perceived as wrong, because popular public figures embrace the notions as enlightened exploitation for treating maladies!

Can we degenerate much further without failing to thrive as a nation founded on the principles of right to life and liberty? ... Will cannibalism finally engulf US?

[For more on the vagaries of cloning, click on my MHGinTN and read the current essay at my profile page.]

11 posted on 01/11/2003 12:32:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (Every individual human lifetime begins at conception and continues on life support from someone)
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It's quite simple really: liberal "compassion" (it's not really genuine compassion, as it's only used to make themselves feel better) only extends to those who they can see before them. A fetus is hidden; they don't ever have to actually come face to face with what they're killing, so it's ok. Just like how they have more compassion for murderers than they do for their victims.
12 posted on 01/11/2003 12:41:19 PM PST by Sofa King (- Beware: they biggest fools I have ever know fancied themselves wise.)
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To: az4vlad
I have oftened wondered what would be the reaction of this great nation if it were permitted to actually view an abortion. How much would they supprot this murder of babies if they could see with their own eyes the crushing of the skull, the ripping apart of the body and the throwing of the remains into the garbage along with the rest of the tiny bodies.

But even a more sick sight would be the requirement of the woman paying good money to "doctor" who would be more that happy to murder the baby for the money he will charge them in order to help them.

How many babies were murdered who could have found answers to a cure for cancer sooner, found cures for many plagues that affect the world? Only when we reach our heavenly home will we have the answer to that question.

It'so sad when the puny mankind try to play GOD, only to fail time after time but still know that they are doing what is right in their own eyes while blaming GOD for not supporting and assisting them.

13 posted on 01/11/2003 12:41:38 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Brad's Gramma
Even though my son and his girlfriend never did establish a good relationship for their child, I'm so glad they never considered abortion.

My grandaughter, now 11, is a beautiful, dark haired, dark eyed young lady, with a peaches and cream complexion. What a face! She could be a model. I hope she will pursue it. It's a good job, if you have your head on straight - and it can open doors into other fields - namely because of the high earning levels. It could give her enough funds to get the college education she wants and will need to be an anthropoligist.
14 posted on 01/11/2003 1:01:15 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: Sofa King
That's why PP doesn't want ultrasounds!!!!!

And welcome to FR!!! I LOVE your screen name.
15 posted on 01/11/2003 1:10:06 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Get your spiritual house(s) in order, NOW!)
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To: CyberAnt
Oh oh.....you're gonna start the war of the Gramma's or what? LOL!!!!

She sounds like an absolute sweetie. And I'm real proud of them for NOT considering abortion. They and the many others.
16 posted on 01/11/2003 1:11:16 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Get your spiritual house(s) in order, NOW!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
PP? Planned Parenthood I assume?

I was not aware that they were anti-ultrasound. You're right, though, it does fit, doesn't it?
17 posted on 01/11/2003 1:26:13 PM PST by Sofa King (- Beware: they biggest fools I have ever know fancied themselves wise.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Well ... doesn't EVERY grandma think their grandchildren are the greatest?? I certainly would hope so for the child's sake.

However, the comments about my grandchild have been said to me by those who have seen her in person - as well as pictures. Recently, she was in a church play (which I wrote), and she had her hair done up and with makeup - stunning - wow! It surprised even me!
18 posted on 01/11/2003 1:27:46 PM PST by CyberAnt (grandchildren are my inheritance)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Like I said the other day, I feel God's hands are guiding ultrasound engineers to make the "window" provide a more clear image all the time. I'm so proud of my brother-in-law for his work w/ GE Ultrasound, esp. in their recent expansion into 4D ultrasound. See http://www.gemedicalsystems.com/rad/us/4d/index.html
19 posted on 01/11/2003 1:30:02 PM PST by luckymom
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To: CyberAnt
she had her hair done up and with makeup - stunning - wow! It surprised even me!

Wouldn't surprise me if she looks like grandma.

20 posted on 01/11/2003 1:52:47 PM PST by shiva
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To: shiva
Hmmmm? Who said she looked like Grandma?

Do you know what Grandma looks like??
21 posted on 01/11/2003 2:13:55 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: az4vlad
The dumb women really fell for that democrat trick to garner the female vote years ago.Abortion is admitting that you are irresposible because it gives an out for being a whore.Exercising the "right to choose" means that you were stupid and selfish 3,6 or 9 months ago.WHICH BY THE WAY,AN INTELLIGENT PERSON WOULD HAVE MADE THAT DECISION!
22 posted on 01/11/2003 2:35:02 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: az4vlad
How far can a female fall?

Mothers were designed by God to take man's gift, to form a new life and new soul within, to nurture and protect, to cherish and rejoice with, and to infinitely love the life of her innocent and defenseless and Godly child. A mother who murders her own ceases to be a mother, turns her back on God, betrays her own creation to death, and ceases to love. There is no colder and more evil act than to murder one's own child.

23 posted on 01/11/2003 4:22:29 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
thank you for your post. it is encouraging for a father / husband to write that.
24 posted on 01/11/2003 5:07:37 PM PST by grantswank
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To: az4vlad
Abortion....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.
25 posted on 01/11/2003 5:11:08 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: yendu bwam
Amen.
26 posted on 01/11/2003 5:15:02 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: nickcarraway; Siobhan; JMJ333; Salvation; Polycarp
Then after I finished what I had to say, the Planned Parenthood rep came to the front of the room, presenting her position.

She looked like a model for a fashion magazine.
She was exceptionally poised and of course well-spoken — smooth voice, smiling face, appropriate gestures while delivering her message — the works.

I could tell that she had the class in the palm of her hand. She knew her business and delivered it first-class.


Ping

Can you say public relations coaching? We learned how to coach in PR and marketing classes. It's basically acting. And lying. Image is everything, you know.

There are good reasons why I got out of PR.
27 posted on 01/11/2003 5:16:55 PM PST by Desdemona (Edward Bernays and Ivey Lee have a lot to answer for. Darn Propaganda.)
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To: CyberAnt
Well ... doesn't EVERY grandma think their grandchildren are the greatest??

But of COURSE! I, on the other hand, KNOW mine's the best.

Heheeeeeee

28 posted on 01/11/2003 7:19:11 PM PST by Bradís Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma
Somehow I knew you were going to say that ... LOL

I guess my grandchild is so precious to me because she was brutally abused by her mother. Her father was my youngest son, but he virtually abandoned her (and the mother - because the mother was brutal to him). However, my middle son and his wife went to court and were appointed her Guardian when she was six. Now, at 11, she's really a beauty - having given her heart to Jesus when she was 9. GOD is awesome!!
29 posted on 01/11/2003 7:24:52 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
I'll be back, Missy. MY grandson, certified-cutest-ever, wants me to sit with him for a bit.

Some things, sigh, (hahahahahahahaaaaaaa) MUST be done.
30 posted on 01/11/2003 7:28:18 PM PST by Bradís Gramma
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
BLOBFT - buy lots of baby food today.
31 posted on 01/11/2003 7:31:51 PM PST by 185JHP ("I was neat, clean, shaved, sober, and FReeping!")
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To: CyberAnt
Pagan women don't know who they're listening to when the "Eve" in them starts yapping "What about meeeeee!"
32 posted on 01/11/2003 7:38:44 PM PST by 185JHP ("I was neat, clean, shaved, sober, and FReeping!")
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To: Ann Archy
Abortion....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.

Exactly. In the ancient mideast, they used a statue as a visual aid, called it Molech, and sacrificed babies. Now they worship the god of convenience. Still exactly the same thing.

33 posted on 01/11/2003 8:02:18 PM PST by Aarchaeus
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To: 185JHP
Hmmmm? you lost me!
34 posted on 01/11/2003 8:05:30 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
I was opining that abortion is about selfishness, and that Eve's error was mostly about selfishness, and pride. And that pagan women that defend/support abortion don't really know the source of their killing urges.
35 posted on 01/11/2003 8:12:15 PM PST by 185JHP ("I was neat, clean, shaved, sober, and FReeping!")
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To: 185JHP
What do you think Eve's error was - exactly!
36 posted on 01/11/2003 8:35:36 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
Rebellion.
37 posted on 01/11/2003 8:47:27 PM PST by 185JHP ("I was neat, clean, shaved, sober, and FReeping!")
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To: 185JHP
Do you think Adam was at all to blame for what happened in the garden??
38 posted on 01/11/2003 8:51:47 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
I'm not sure if he was on the scene during the dialogue with the serpent and heard what was said. If he was there, heard what was said, did nothing because he had had a hankering to eat the apple himself at times, and wanted to see what happened to Eve after she ate it, he can be blamed. OTOH, regardless of what happened, Eve was deceived, whereas Adam deliberately and willfully, with obstinance aforethought, sinned. That's why men's lives are so hard.
39 posted on 01/11/2003 9:19:51 PM PST by 185JHP ("I was neat, clean, shaved, sober, and FReeping!")
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To: 185JHP
You got it!

Amazing - very few people have that understanding. I do believe Adam was there, because the scripture says, she gave to him and he did eat - and there was no explanation about where she had to go to give him the apple. At least that's the interpretation I got from the scripture.

I have always believed that if Adam had asserted his authority as her husband, and they had gone together to God about the apple she had eaten, they would never have had to leave the garden. This is based on the fact that when Eve ate the apple - nothing happened. It was only when Adam also ate the apple that the curse came upon all mankind.
40 posted on 01/11/2003 9:39:30 PM PST by CyberAnt (Syracuse where are you?)
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To: CyberAnt
Child sacrifices to Molech/Baal continue on...
41 posted on 01/11/2003 10:43:13 PM PST by Gal.5:1
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To: 185JHP; CyberAnt
185JHP: "...regardless of what happened, Eve was deceived, whereas Adam deliberately and willfully, with obstinance aforethought, sinned. That's why men's lives are so hard."
___________________________________________________________

And women's lives aren't?

    Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shalt be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

    Genesis 3:16

God does not punish the blameless. Eve was well aware of God's prohibition (Gen 3:3) and so was Adam (Gen 2:17). Each was now corrupt and, accordingly, presented God with an excuse (a lie) when confronted with the disobedience. Adam tried to shift the blame onto Eve. Eve tried to shift the blame onto the serpent. Accordingly, both were driven from the garden.

To this day, it pays to follow simple instructions.

NB. CyberAnt: Adam had no authority over Eve until after God punished them.

42 posted on 01/12/2003 1:18:03 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: az4vlad
}Then after I finished what I had to say, the Planned Parenthood rep came to the front of the room

Change the speaking order. You represent the presumed status quo and should have nothing to say until a contrary position is advocated. Let her speak first and make the case for murder, then speak and dissect her position.

43 posted on 01/13/2003 7:35:58 PM PST by DensaMensa
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To: CyberAnt
Do you think Adam was at all to blame for what happened in the garden??

Adam didn't stand up to the serpent "molesting" his bride! Remember the previous passage about God establishing him in the garden giving the command to till and guard it...

44 posted on 01/13/2003 7:39:00 PM PST by TotusTuus
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To: 185JHP
Again I saw all the oppressions that are done under the sun. And behold, the tears of the oppressed, and they had no one to comfort them! On the side of their oppressors there was power, and there was no one to comfort them. Ecclesiastes 4:1

My pastor asked a question in his sermon yesterday that I think is vital to remember in this battle: “Is there anything worst than taking advantage of and destroying the poor? Yes, what Jesus went through for sinners.” He was hated, despised, oppressed and killed for us. Yet he was without sin. Take comfort in this, Freepers, so we may comfort others. We must always fight this battle with prayer first, not growing weary, realizing we can’t do everything at once and trusting the Lord of Hosts for the victory.

45 posted on 01/13/2003 8:07:45 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
Well gee whiz, insensitive guy, you seem to not know you are the original poster boy for abortion in the first place!

The lowly slut whore who got herself pregnant and should be universally reviled for all of her life for-horrors-having sex outside of marriage!

To escape this lifelong sentence of censure.....

So now you think abortion is wrong?Is it because an innocent child is murdered or because the lowly-slut-whore escapes the lifelong judgement you feel free to paint her with?

I dont suppose you would ever consider your own culpability in abortion?

I do not personnally support abortion on demand.But I can not conceive of its actual abolishment, unless people like you cease to exist.

Think about it.

46 posted on 01/13/2003 8:25:29 PM PST by sarasmom (<p>)
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To: Lady Eileen
Thanks for a great post.
47 posted on 01/13/2003 8:35:35 PM PST by 185JHP ("I was neat, clean, shaved, sober, and FReeping!")
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To: az4vlad
Pastor Swank is just mad that his argument was shot down by a perfectly manicured, well-bred, smiling female. He probably went on and on supporting his argument with myth while the female presented real facts so many of the children were swayed by logic and reason.
48 posted on 01/13/2003 8:49:57 PM PST by snowstorm12
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