LACI PETERSON UPDATE--Object in water identified.

Fox News | 1-11-03 | Fox News

[DWar]

Fox News has just aired the announcement by police authorities that the 'object' found in Berkley Bay, thought to possibly be the body of 8 month pregnant missing woman, Laci Peterson is a partially submerged, abandoned anchor. The search goes on.

[Jhoffa_]

Yeah, I can see how a "partially submerged, abandoned anchor could throw you off..

Happens to me all the time.

[God'sgrrl]

Okay...here's my theory...sister looks VERY nervous during televised interview..Laci's husband had affair with sister and they get rid of Laci. Fiction? Maybe- but I'd believe anything today.

[chachacha]

The Bluff failed and he stayed the course. Nice try!

[Young Werther]

Yes! An anchor! Was anything tied to it? Doh!

[Howlin]

Look here

[Jhoffa_]

"partially submerged"

?

[Temple Drake]

WOW -- that looks very accurate. And not like an anchor, unless of course it was a very barnacly, algified anchor.

[DWSUWF]

"...The Bluff failed and he stayed the course. Nice try!..."

Never bring a busted poker hand to a chess game?

[Howlin]

It's from hole_n_one; he found a lot of them. They look weird, don't they?

[Jhoffa_]

The Bluff failed and he stayed the course. Nice try!

Interesting thought, but it could be quickly eliminated as a possibility if the killer could discount that as the location of the body..

He would think: "So what, can't be mine.."

[Jhoffa_]

It does look remarkably accurate..

Except people bloat a little when they sink.

(picture that.. even worse than "extruded" crabs..)

[Howlin]

I was just going down to dinner...

[Jhoffa_]

LOL!

No thanks is nesessary..

[BOBWADE]

I just think they are desperate for a suspect so they are trying to get the media to turn on the husband for a few days.

[Republic of Texas]

OOPS.

[gitmo]

Gallagher did a bit where he put a diaper on an anchor to show how a baby is an anchor.

[Temple Drake]

pretty creepy, I'd say. Wouldn't that be a hell of a job -- diving in zero-vis water for icky dead bodies? That would take nerve I just don't have!

[denco]

I think you are exactly right. The husband is an easy target, but they had better be covering all their bases, or this case will to unsolved. Denco

[Jhoffa_]

I haven't been following the case, but it did smack of desperation.

IMHO, they should be very careful here.. Look at the three rings of "suspects" in the Ramsey & Green River circuses..

They cast suspicion on more people than they could every hope to try for the crime(s).

[mombonn]

.sister looks VERY nervous during televised interview..Laci's husband had affair with sister and they get rid of Laci.

My husband had an affair while I was pregnant with our son. Fortunately, all he did was run off and marry her.

BTW, it was his secretary, I don't have a sister.

Prayers for Laci's family.

[pitinkie]

Maybe the body is attached!

[Balata]

That doesn't give a motive to murder the baby.

How about if the sister knew Laci had an affair and was in fact pregnated by some other guy, however she doesn't know if the husband found out about it. The husband, Scott of course has, and that gives him motive to do away with Laci and the baby.

[tje]

I'll guess that the anchor was partially buried in the silt, giving it an intriguing sonar signature...

[TBall]

I to noticed that the sister was nervous. Its OBVIOUS that the sister had Laci killed so that she could be with the husband. I'm absolutely sure that the husband has NO idea about the sister's intentions. The only problem is that the police are now convinced that the husband did it and fabricated evidence WILL be planted to make sure that the husband is found GUILTY.

[Temple Drake]

well, maybe he has debts she doesn't know about and he couldn't reveal. And maybe her life insurance policy was recently increased in value ...

[DWar]

Partially submerged IN THE MUD on the bottom of the bay.

[Jhoffa_]

Yes, I bet that's likely..

[Republic of Texas]

How do you know all that?

[Yeti]

I know it sounds crazy(sigh) but maybe, just MAYBE -- he didn't do it!

I wouldn't take a polygraph test, either. If you dont know why, educate yourself. They are easily passed by prepared liars, and easily flunked by nervous or upset innocents. The tests almost invariably bear out whatever the tester suspects in the first place. There have been studies where the test administrators were told who their client suspected, and, surprise! guess who the tester finds deceptive? Too bad the test administrators didn't know that no crime was comitted at all, and everyone was being honest!

Polygraphs are a con, designed to make money for administrators and provide some justification for the police or employers to do what they already want to do.

Taking that kind of test is just like offerring to let the police frame you if they can't find a better suspect. Likewise serology. For a specific purpose under conrolled circumstances, yes. But a vial of your blood "just in case they need it" is a whole lot of trust to put in someone whose vested carreer interests lie in getting a conviction.

I want to hear more about the burglars' alibis.

I want to know how the police know that a witness who saw her at the park that morning was mistaken.

[Eva]

My husband was in the Coast Guard and he says that the body would be a floater by now, unless well weighted down and body parts would be falling off. He also said that the flat where they were searching would be like a toilet that flushes with every tide and the likelyhood of a submerged body would be very slim.

[Jhoffa_]

My husband had an affair while I was pregnant with our son. Fortunately, all he did was run off and marry her.

That's awful..

[cherry]

welcome pilgrim....just joined today I see...

[leilani]

"I just think they are desperate for a suspect so they are trying to get the media to turn on the husband for a few days." Me too. I think it's a dead giveaway that all of her friends and her parents are behind the husband 100%. Don't get me wrong, I'm a total cynic, I first thought of the hubby as the perp, but not anymore. I don't think she was a sex-crime victim though either. Sadly, I think she was offed for her 8-month fetus (they are very valuable these days).

[Yeti]

My husband had an affair while I was pregnant with our son. Fortunately, all he did was run off and marry her.

That's despicable. Someone who would do that, I know its not my business, but I think you are probably better off without him.

[PFKEY]

The Bluff failed and he stayed the course. Nice try!

Yep. This was just a tactic and nothing else.

[Temple Drake]

WHAT??? you mean for PARTS?

[Yeti]

I to noticed that the sister was nervous. Its OBVIOUS that the sister had Laci killed so that she could be with the husband. I'm absolutely sure that the husband has NO idea about the sister's intentions. The only problem is that the police are now convinced that the husband did it and fabricated evidence WILL be planted to make sure that the husband is found GUILTY.

LOL! The sweet, cruel irony of it all!

[mombonn]

He turned out to be a much better father than husband. I'm much better off without him, but he was a good dad to the kids. My daughter is now 22, son 19. You couldn't ask for better young adults.

I'm a better mother than wife, too. *sigh*

[Yeti]

Actually, I think you are overlooking the obvious.

Notice how the whole family supports him? She has obviously been raised by a satanic cult(her family) specifically for the purpose of sacrifice. Scott(if that is his real name) is an acolyte who they hope will be a vessel for the antichrist.

You can see it in his eyes in that picture of them. His smile is not as big as hers ... why not?! I think any reasonable jury who saw that pic would send him to the chamber. Unfortunately, the chamber won't do anything but release the evil within him to unleash unspeakable horror upon us all!

Let's hope the cops recognize this in time, before they "prove" he did it.

[nicmarlo]

sister looks VERY nervous during televised interview

Maybe that's the word, I don't know, but while I watched her, I felt something weird with her....not the mother, just the sister.

[Yeti]

I'm much better off without him, but he was a good dad to the kids.

I guess all's well that ends well. But still, the timing is just so low down.

[RGSpincich]

I felt something weird with her

I don't think she is involved, she is having a hard time not telling the truth about Laci and Scott's screwed up marriage. She knows and she thinks SP did it. But she can't talk and it's making her squirm, she'll blurt it out soon.

[nicmarlo]

They are easily passed by prepared liars, and easily flunked by nervous or upset innocents. The tests almost invariably bear out whatever the tester suspects in the first place.

That's what I've heard, too; it kind of reminds me of survey questions: the wording of the questions are critical. If they're worded, at all in a way that appears double-meaning, the one being asked the question will take longer to answer and be nervous, hoping they interpreted the precise meaning of the question.

[nicmarlo]

Let's hope someone talks soon.....this is very tragic. A baby and mother killed, one must assume.

[ErnBatavia]

Ah yes..Mr. Sledge-O-Matic

[Chad Fairbanks]

Someone grab a net, we'll turn that Floater into a Strainer...

[Yeti]

the wording of the questions are critical.

The interviewer can cock an eyebrow and get a response. Body language, tone, breathing rhythm... anything that suggests suspicion or doubt can induce a defensive reaction in the subject. This will be interpereted by the examiner as "deceptive".

It can be done intentionally, and in ways that are difficult to spot on videotape, even. More often, though, just the predisposition of the examiner will subconciously suggest the response to the examinee.

[nicmarlo]

I need to get offline for a little while, and go make an apple pie with my daughter (bonding here), but I thought I'd make a comment before leaving....and I'll respond to any remarks, later:

Sean Hannity has been very kind to keep in mind that IF the husband did NOT kill his wife, this man is already grieving the loss of his wife and baby. He brought up that the Smart family was suspected and people were accusing them of doing something with their daughter and saying mean things. He doesn't want to sound like part of a media frenzied attack dog against this husband.

Having said that (because I do feel very similarly), one cannot but help wonder (because statistics show, repeatedly, that murders usually are committed by someone you know, and often times by the spouse or significant other), about Laci's husband. When I saw him walking in a clip, with his baseball hat on, it wasn't the walk of a tortured man who lost his wife and baby. His face did not look pained. He appeared like he was trying to be "tough," and strong. His gate was brisk. It just struck me a bit odd.

Another oddity, to me, was the fact that he was gone Christmas Eve day from his wife, 8 1/2 months pregnant. When you're that far along, you're not supposed to drive, just in case you go into labor. You can deliver two weeks before/after the due date. So, he left her at a time when she, conceivably, could have had gone into labor, and his drive back would be, I think it was, 1 1/2 hours (I might be wrong; maybe it would be 45 minutes). But, he'd still have to do something with the boat, in case she called him, like moor it to the something to leave it, after coming from wherever in the middle of the lake to the shore. If he couldn't leave it there, it would take time to put it back onto the trailer to haul it back with him. We're looking at least, from the time an urgent call came to him, 20 minutes or so to come to shore and load the boat on the trailer, then at least another 45 minutes (or 1 1/2 hours) to drive home. And she was supposedly left home alone that day. Christmas Eve day, her family was expecting Laci and husband for dinner, etc., so Laci's mother had to have been running some last-minute errands that day, cooking, etc. Not exactly a day when you find everybody on call for Laci's needs if she goes into labor...if you know what I mean (I'm not saying that her family wouldn't drop everything to come help her; just that they may not have been available at every moment during the day).

Even though the police said this was not suspect behavior of the husband, I just think it's one more thing a bit odd about the husband.