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Marijuana's harm illusory
Rocky Mountain News ^ | January 7, 2003 | Paul Campos

Posted on 01/13/2003 7:31:37 AM PST by MrLeRoy

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To: madfly
"In my opinion, recreational marijuana use by adults in the workforce is in many ways a harmless and victimless activity."

Perhaps, except for "short term memory loss" associated with smoking cannabis.

I would think short term memory loss (persistent as the drug remains in the body for some days/weeks) could be an issue if you are a surgeon, airline pilot, stock broker, etc. where decisions must be quick, clear, and accurate.

61 posted on 01/13/2003 8:42:00 AM PST by UKCajun
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To: robertpaulsen
So if marijuana were legal, where's your savings?

Turning 10,000 tax payer supported prisoners back into tax payers should save a few mil.

62 posted on 01/13/2003 8:42:33 AM PST by copycat (Tag, you're it...)
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To: robertpaulsen
So if marijuana were legal, where's your savings?

Turning 10,000 tax payer supported prisoners back into tax payers should save a few mil.

63 posted on 01/13/2003 8:42:45 AM PST by copycat (Tag, you're it...)
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To: UKCajun
I would think short term memory loss (persistent as the drug remains in the body for some days/weeks)

No, only its inert metabolites remain in the body.

could be an issue if you are a surgeon, airline pilot, stock broker, etc. where decisions must be quick, clear, and accurate.

Alcohol hangovers could be an issue for those people, too. What's your point?

64 posted on 01/13/2003 8:44:25 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: robertpaulsen
So if marijuana were legal, where's your savings? Would the size of the police force be reduced? Would the State of Missouri then announce a tax cut? You think?

Hint: No.

So we're not going to save any money, and there's nothing more productive they could be doing than running around in the boonies cutting down weeds? The whole notion of "smaller government" is lost on you, isn't it?

65 posted on 01/13/2003 8:47:07 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: matthew_the_brain
It's good to see intellectual reinforcements for the pro-WOD side of the debate.

Each and every one of that black squadron could surely use an ally called 'the brain'.
66 posted on 01/13/2003 8:47:31 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: MrLeRoy
May you battles against the munchies not be in vain.
67 posted on 01/13/2003 8:54:54 AM PST by American Blood
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To: Kevin Curry
Of course, liberdopians aren't pro-drug per se. That's why they obsess about it.

Yeppers, in the guise of “government off our backs” Liberaltarians won’t stop obsessing until our society has degenerated into its basest form of degradation and repugnance. Pinheaded “intellectualism” is no substitute for common sense; thank God they’re such an irrelevant force in this country.

68 posted on 01/13/2003 8:56:22 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: headsonpikes
"I think we can all agree that the ingestion of smoke into the lungs cannot be particularly beneficial to pulmonary function."

This is not completely true. Dr. Greenspoon and others have found that asthmatic patients benefited from the induction of small amounts of smoked or vaporized cannabis. One of the active ingredients in marijuana is a bronchodilator, (opens the constricted airways), without the severe side effects of other asthma inhalers, like synthetic steroids or beta-agonists.

69 posted on 01/13/2003 9:00:48 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: American Blood
May you battles against the munchies not be in vain.

I use no drugs---including the deadly addictive drugs alochol and tobacco.

70 posted on 01/13/2003 9:02:43 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: matthew_the_brain
No, they are simply very loud. (But they do not advocate it) :)
71 posted on 01/13/2003 9:03:59 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Yeppers, in the guise of “government off our backs” Liberaltarians won’t stop obsessing until our society has degenerated into its basest form of degradation and repugnance. Pinheaded “intellectualism” is no substitute for common sense

No facts or logic, just namecalling---you and Kebbie should get along just fine.

72 posted on 01/13/2003 9:04:12 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: Hacksaw
Is Free Republic full of potheads?

No, they are simply very loud.

Hacksaw, who are the potheads on FR?

73 posted on 01/13/2003 9:05:39 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
I always liked the skit about the young guy who was unemployed sitting in his room smoking pot and his mother is yelling at him to go out and look for a job. He just takes another toke and says ok mom, maybe tomorrow.
74 posted on 01/13/2003 9:06:57 AM PST by John Lenin (my 2 cents)
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To: MrLeRoy; matthew_the_brain
"the federal government has no Constitutional authority"

"It is therefore not surprising that every court that has considered the question, both before and after the Supreme Court's decision in Lopez, has concluded that section 841(a)(1) represents a valid exercise of the commerce power."

Here's your cite. Stop lying to the other posters.

75 posted on 01/13/2003 9:07:41 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: MrLeRoy
Your arguments from authority do not trump simple logic

They do when the logic is "flawed."

There is ample evidence that even recreational use of cannabis affects short term memory. Short-term memory (STM)is essential for consciousness. The aspect of transience—namely rapid decay of the information input, represents a primary characteristic of STM. Limited processing capacity is another characteristic that is strongly associated with short-term memory. STM is the seat of reasoning, cognitive ability and function.

See:

See Kyllonen, P.C. & Christal, R.E. (1990). Reasoning Ability is (Little More Than) Working Memory Capacity?! `Intelligence, 14, 389-433.

Alcohol hangovers could be an issue for those people, too. What's your point?

My point? Maybe when someone hands you a joint and says, "Hey man, wanna get stupid?" you should take it literally! :)

76 posted on 01/13/2003 9:10:15 AM PST by UKCajun
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To: robertpaulsen
"every court that has considered the question, both before and after the Supreme Court's decision in Lopez, has concluded that section 841(a)(1) represents a valid exercise of the commerce power."

Duh---section 841(a)(1) was enacted well after FDR's court-packing threat had cowed the Supreme Court into ceasing to interpret the Commerce Clause as it was written. The clear language of the Commerce Clause remains on my side; your craven surrender to FDR-style Constitutional misinterpretation is duly noted.

77 posted on 01/13/2003 9:12:34 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: copycat
Hmmmm. Turning loose tens of thousands of convicted felons to save money. What a unique idea. Why, if we extended this to felons of other crimes, the savings would be astronomical.

I suggest you write your congressman with this absolutely brilliant idea!

78 posted on 01/13/2003 9:15:16 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: UKCajun
Your arguments from authority do not trump simple logic

They do when the logic is "flawed."

There is ample evidence that even recreational use of cannabis affects short term memory.

My statement was made in response to a claim about depression and schizophrenia---looks like you have first-hand experince with short term memory loss.

Alcohol hangovers could be an issue for those people, too. What's your point?

My point? Maybe when someone hands you a joint and says, "Hey man, wanna get stupid?" you should take it literally! :)

Your point was a witless quip? ... OK.

79 posted on 01/13/2003 9:16:46 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: John Lenin
I always liked the skit about the young guy who was unemployed sitting in his room smoking pot and his mother is yelling at him to go out and look for a job. He just takes another toke and says ok mom, maybe tomorrow.

Perhaps the only honest anti-marijuana ad ever aired---but it presents no justification for keeping it illegal, since alcohol use can be just as detrimental to one's employment prospects.

80 posted on 01/13/2003 9:19:47 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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