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Sexual Shenanigans spice up camp life--It's nothing unusual, say Teenage Visitors
The Bangkok Post ^ | 01.13.03 | Anucha Charoenpo

Posted on 01/13/2003 7:56:39 PM PST by Coleus

20TH WORLD SCOUT JAMBOREE

Sexual shenanigans spice up camp life

It's nothing unusual, say teenage visitors

Anucha Charoenpo

Young love birds share an intimate moment yesterday during a party for participants in the World Scout Jamboree at Haad Yao beach in Sattahip. _ JETJARAS NA RANONG

Scouts from Western countries say having sex and forming relationships is common practice among participants at the 20th World Scout Jamboree in Sattahip.

They say they are well aware of the risk of sexually transmitted disease and take the necessary precautions.

Rob Rolfe, 17, from Britain, said he believed some couples were having sex somewhere in the camp even as he spoke to the Bangkok Post.

It was quite normal for young people in Britain aged 16 or more to have sexual relationships, he said.

``We don't think having sex is a serious issue, as long as we prevent transmission of sexual diseases,'' he said.

Health officials said they had handed out thousands of condoms and other contraceptive devices to foreign scouts since the jamboree started on Dec 28.

Their actions have drawn public criticism, with claims they were promoting sexual activities in the camp rather than scouting.

Noor Staelens, 16, from Belgium, said having sexual relationships with those she loved before marriage was accepted by Western culture. She understood well that Thai culture did not approve of sexual relations between unmarried young people.

Ms Staelens believed only a few couples were indulging in sex. There was nothing wrong with that, but most scouts were more interested in more productive activities.

Michael Cojer, 16, from England, said sex was a very normal thing in Western culture. Every youngster in England knew how to reduce the health risks from sex.

He was not surprised that condoms had been handed out at the jamboree camp.

Thongchai Sakarcheep,15, a scout from Bordindacha 3 school, said if foreign scouts wanted to have sexual relationships that was fine by him, but he felt it was inappropriate inside the camp.

``As for me, I'm too young to think about sex. I came here because I wanted to take part in the scout meeting.

``Sex should come after marriage,'' he said, quoting his parents.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: bangkok; boyscouts; bsa; bsalist; condoms; jamboree; nwo; scouts; sex; thailand; thiland; unlist; worldjamboree
World Jamboree or Orgy. Scouting seems to have changed a lot since I was a scout. Whatever happened to a Scout is Reverent and Morally Straight and tying knots and building campfires.
1 posted on 01/13/2003 7:56:40 PM PST by Coleus
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To: All
http://www.bangkokpost.com/030103_News/03Jan2003_news15.html
http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/05Jan2003_news12.html


http://www.worldscoutjamboree20.org

http://www.worldscoutjamboree20.org/pdf/English/010.pdf

http://www.worldscoutjamboree20.org/pdf/English/011.pdf

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=qw10407967211B232&set_id=1

http://www.worldscoutjamboree20.org/releasescollect.asp

http://www.geocities.com/thehugmonster/midis/beprepared.mid

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/812856/posts
2 posted on 01/13/2003 7:57:53 PM PST by Coleus (Insanely pro life)
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To: Coleus
I'm shocked, but not surprised, some of the countries represented(i.e. the UK and Belgium) have different age of consent laws and looser attitudes about sex. Consequentially, moral rot is out of control over there.
3 posted on 01/13/2003 8:01:09 PM PST by Commander8
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To: *UN_List; *bsa_list; *"NWO"
http://www.worldscoutjamboree20.org/releasescollect.asp

Looks like the UN was heavily involved with this World Jamboree:

UNESCO, UNICEF, World this and Global that....
4 posted on 01/13/2003 8:01:49 PM PST by Coleus (Insanely pro life)
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5 posted on 01/13/2003 8:02:06 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Commander8
I am sure a lot of American Parents who spent about $2,000 to send their kids half way around the world for a Scouting event are shocked too. And will even be more shocked to find out 9 months from now that they are grandparents, surprise.
6 posted on 01/13/2003 8:04:57 PM PST by Coleus (Insanely pro life)
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To: Coleus
These are all boy events, or mixed?
7 posted on 01/13/2003 8:06:41 PM PST by Libertina
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To: Libertina
Co-Ed.

Scouting is Co-Ed in most countries around the world.
8 posted on 01/13/2003 8:21:34 PM PST by Coleus (Insanely pro life)
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To: Libertina

Young love birds share an intimate moment yesterday during a party for participants in the World Scout Jamboree at Haad Yao beach in Sattahip.

I guess earning merit badges and singing along the campfire are out.

9 posted on 01/13/2003 8:24:14 PM PST by Coleus (Insanely pro life)
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To: Coleus
"...World Jamboree or Orgy. Scouting seems to have changed a lot since I was a scout. Whatever happened to a Scout is Reverent and Morally Straight and tying knots and building campfires..."

This is bait, propaganda intended to provoke and enrage Americans even as it attempts to cast an obscene 'Say It And It's So' spell on Scouting.

Our fight, to preserve genuine Scouting, is here, in OUR COUNTRY.

We can deal with the enemy at close quarters far better than half a world away, in the crotch of the planet, Thailand. No American Scout's parents should facilitate their son's participation in events that take place in a brothel nation on the other side of the planet.

10 posted on 01/13/2003 8:24:17 PM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Coleus
He was not surprised that condoms had been handed out at the jamboree camp.

So much for the motto: Be prepared.

11 posted on 01/13/2003 8:32:13 PM PST by Zebra
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To: DWSUWF
You nailed it. Let the Thai's be the first with a kama sutra merit badge.
12 posted on 01/13/2003 8:33:42 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Coleus
Tom Lehrer knew about this back in the 50's:

Be prepared, that's the Boy Scout's marching song
Be prepared, as through life you march along
Be prepared to hold your liquor pretty well
Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell

Be prepared to hide that pack of cigarettes
Don't make book if you cannot cover bets
Keep those reefers hidden where you're sure that they will not be found
And be careful not to smoke them when the scoutmaster's around
For he only will insist that they be shared
Be prepared

Be prepared, that's the Boy Scouts' solemn creed
Be prepared, and be clean in word and deed
Don't solicit for your sister, that's not nice
Unless you get a good percentage of her price

Be prepared, and be careful not to do
Your good deeds when there's no one watching you
If you're looking for adventure of a new and different kind
And you come across a Girl Scout who is similarly inclined
Don't be nervous, don't be flustered, don't be scared
Be prepared!

13 posted on 01/13/2003 8:34:44 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: DWSUWF
Give me a break.

Kids are gonna do what they're gonna do.

Any adult, or parent, who thinks they can stop a 16 yr old from being sexually active is delusional.

If it's a choice THEY amke, there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Raise your kids right and hope for the best.

14 posted on 01/13/2003 8:38:07 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Coleus
Thanks for the info Coleus. When I did girl scouts with my daughter it was only girls. And a bunch of fun too- songs, campfires & smores. IOW, a "childhood."
16 posted on 01/13/2003 8:39:35 PM PST by Libertina
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To: BKT
Yes, I am sure things happened 30 yrs. ago and even before that but it wasn't encouraged by the adults or the Scouting organizations themselves nor did your leaders give out condoms to you. It's a big difference. In America it's called contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

And I am sure there will be many irate American Parents this week when they come back.
17 posted on 01/13/2003 9:04:31 PM PST by Coleus (Insanely pro life)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Keep those reefers>>>

that's a word I haven't heard for a while.

Nowadays he should add the words crack pipe, and ecstasy pills, to the line
18 posted on 01/13/2003 9:08:22 PM PST by Coleus (Insanely pro life)
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To: Coleus
Rob Rolfe, 17, from Britain, said he believed some couples were having sex somewhere in the camp even as he spoke to the Bangkok Post.

Insert Beavis and Butthead laughter here.

19 posted on 01/13/2003 9:08:30 PM PST by nunya bidness (Your ad here!)
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To: BKT
I was in the scouts 30 years ago! And when the boys and girls mixed, sex happened!!

I was in 35 years ago. Something drastic must have happened in those five years as during my time there were no girls at any Boy Scout event. Our antics consisted of peeing in the fire and setting fire to tent ropes.
20 posted on 01/13/2003 9:08:55 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: nunya bidness
Huh uh huh you said "Bangkok" uh huh huh uh huh
21 posted on 01/13/2003 9:14:59 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Arkinsaw
I was thinking about that too, there were no females around back then at Scout Camps except for the camp nurse in summer camp. Maybe he confused YMCA camps with BSA camps, I don't know.
22 posted on 01/13/2003 9:17:16 PM PST by Coleus (Insanely pro life)
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To: Arkinsaw
Venture Scouts are teen-aged and allows co-education activities.
23 posted on 01/13/2003 9:23:23 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: Coleus
dittoes
24 posted on 01/13/2003 9:25:31 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Coleus
I think the big difference here is that Scouting in other countries tends to be co-ed. Don't think that sex is a big story at the National Jamboree in Virginia.
25 posted on 01/13/2003 9:26:17 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Coleus
I'm sure they are all well "supervised" since all those gay scout leaders are there to show the boys how to ..... um, you know, do some scout stuff and um, ... you know, whatever gay scout leaders do when they are around underage boys in a foreign country 5000 miles from their parents, ... like make knots, and cut firewood, and do camping stuff. Right? That's what they are doing there, right?
26 posted on 01/13/2003 9:26:59 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Coleus
``As for me, I'm too young to think about sex. I came here because I wanted to take part in the scout meeting. "

Obviously some kind of deviant.

27 posted on 01/13/2003 9:28:08 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Coleus
tying knots and building campfires.

Don't these scouts know you are supposed to tie the knot before you have sex?

28 posted on 01/13/2003 9:33:24 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer (Be Prepared.)
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To: ConservativeLawyer
Don't these scouts know you are supposed to tie the knot before you have sex?>>>

One parsimonious boy does!

...Thongchai Sakarcheep,15, a scout from Bordindacha 3 school, said if foreign scouts wanted to have sexual relationships that was fine by him, but he felt it was inappropriate inside the camp.

``As for me, I'm too young to think about sex. I came here because I wanted to take part in the scout meeting.

``Sex should come after marriage,'' he said, quoting his parents....
29 posted on 01/13/2003 10:13:01 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Must be a communist.
30 posted on 01/13/2003 10:13:48 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus
I remember almost fighting a parent and his idiot son over such a thing.. Just last year actually.

Children are turned loose at camp and the councelors simply look the other way.

It was a Christian camp, btw..

Those kids could be off in the woods having sex, smoking crack or drowning in the lake for all the councelors know.

31 posted on 01/13/2003 10:16:12 PM PST by Jhoffa_ ("Are all men from the future, loud mouthed braggards?" - "Nope, Just me baby.. ")
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To: capitan_refugio
Venture Scouts are teen-aged and allows co-education activities.

No idea what those are. Didn't have them around our District 30 years ago.
32 posted on 01/13/2003 11:42:35 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: VeritatisSplendor
If you're looking for adventure of a new and different kind
And you come across a Girl Scout who is similarly inclined
Don't be nervous, don't be flustered, don't be scared
Be prepared!

I remember being disgusted when I first heard this song. Little did I know that the Scouts would embrace this philosophy years later.

Quelle dommage.

33 posted on 01/13/2003 11:46:07 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (Baloney is baloney, regardless of whether it's sliced from the left or the right...)
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To: Arkinsaw
Venture Scouts, part of Boy Scouts, began in England about 40 years ago. It was designed for young men between the ages of 16 to 20 (generally high school). It was less popular in the United States. Around 1976, it was decided the program would allow young women. I was out of Scouting by then, but remembering my more hormonal days, I don't think I would have minded a few co-educational campouts. As it was, I studied geology in college, and with frequent overnight, weekend field trips, I became familiar with biology as well.
34 posted on 01/14/2003 12:22:37 AM PST by capitan_refugio (... and beer.)
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To: Coleus
I can't exactly agree with the characterization of Thai culture as morally superior. Child prostitution is expected -- families sell off their daughters with little thought. Look at the HIV rates in Thailand - scary!
35 posted on 01/14/2003 12:27:09 AM PST by LPStar
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To: Mariner
"...Give me a break..."

OK... Arm or leg? (If you pick 'leg' I'm going to need to use a sledge-hammer though...)

"...Kids are gonna do what they're gonna do..."

With THAT big a white flag showing, I'll bet yours will, LOL!

"...Any adult, or parent, who thinks they can stop a 16 yr old from being sexually active is delusional..."

Nonsense.

"...If it's a choice THEY amke, there's nothing anyone can do about it..."

You've surrendered, Failure is to be expected for you.

"...Raise your kids right and hope for the best..."

I raise mine right and demand their best.

36 posted on 01/14/2003 4:22:34 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Rebelbase
"...You nailed it. Let the Thai's be the first with a kama sutra merit badge..."

The sheer idiocy of any parent who would send a child to a whore-hole like Thailand is mind-boggling...

37 posted on 01/14/2003 4:25:17 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Arkinsaw
I was in the Boy Scouts for a few years. We never ever mixed with Girl Scouts. Most adults knew how to supervise things back then. And the Scout code must have changed somewhere along the way.
38 posted on 01/14/2003 5:16:06 AM PST by driftless
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To: Arkinsaw
LOL at your comment.

It reminded me of an experiment on one camping trip. If you put an unopened can of baked beans in a roaring campfire, the result, in short order, will be a blast that coats everything within a 20-foot radius with warm mashed beans. Do stand behind a tree while conducting this experiment, because the can itself becomes a sharp-edged missile.

Children, don't attempt this at home.

Congressman Billybob

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As the politician formerly known as Al Gore has said, Buy my book, "to Restore Trust in America"

39 posted on 01/14/2003 8:11:17 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: VeritatisSplendor
The best way to start a fire is to rub two scouts together.
40 posted on 01/14/2003 8:51:52 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: driftless
I was in the Boy Scouts for a few years. We never ever mixed with Girl Scouts. Most adults knew how to supervise things back then. And the Scout code must have changed somewhere along the way.>>>

The scout code is the same, some morals have changed in the USA. The Boy Scouts of American and the Girl Scouts are two separate organizations and do not mix. Once in a while they may have a camporee together but that's the extent of the mixing. The traditional Boy Scout troop youth roster is all male.
41 posted on 01/14/2003 9:22:08 AM PST by Coleus
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To: DWSUWF
The sheer idiocy of any parent who would send a child to a whore-hole like Thailand is mind-boggling......

I blame the National BSA for all of this for not "telling" the truth about what goes on within Scouting in other countries around the world and what happened during the last World Jamboree.

Parents in the USA are led to believe that other countries uphold the same morals and principals as we do here in the USA.
42 posted on 01/14/2003 2:00:34 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Congressman Billybob
We used to melt glass--now that's HOT!
43 posted on 01/16/2003 6:00:08 PM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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