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US missionary attacked in India
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| Wednesday, 15 January, 2003, 09:09 GMT
Posted on 01/15/2003 9:13:02 AM PST by JimRic54
An American missionary has been attacked in southern India by right-wing Hindus allegedly belonging to a group close to the ruling party. The gang attacked Cooper and others with swords, sticks and iron bars
Joseph W Cooper, 68, who is from Pennsylvania, received knife wounds in the assault in Kerala state in which five others were also hurt.
Police say they have arrested five activists of the hardline Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS).
But local RSS leaders deny the movement had anything to do with the attack.
The RSS is a group with close ties to the Hindu Nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party that heads the federal coalition government.
Christian groups have condemned the attack, which took place on the outskirts of the state capital, Trivandrum, on Monday night.
Eyewitnesses say Mr Cooper, a visiting preacher, was surrounded by an armed gang of 10 people as he was returning from a prayer meeting.
"We were approaching our car when the unexpected attack took place," Pastor Benson Sam told the BBC.
A police spokesman said Mr Cooper had sustained a deep cut in his right palm.
Christians in India feel under threat "The gang attacked Cooper and others with swords, sticks and iron bars.
"As other church members rushed to the scene the attackers fled," he was quoted as saying by the AFP news agency.
A local pastor, his wife and two children and one other person were also injured.
The victims were all taken to a local hospital but eyewitnesses said this was delayed by an hour until the police arrived on the scene.
Mr Cooper was attending a Protestant convention in the area organised by a local church.
About one third of the population of Kerala is Christian and attacks of this kind are rare.
But local people told the BBC that in recent months some right-wing Hindu organisations had been protesting against religious minorities.
In recent years, there has been an increase in violence against Christians in India, who make up about 2% of the population.
In 1999, an Australian missionary working in India and his two little sons were burned to death by a mob in the eastern state of Orissa.
That attack was blamed on hardline Hindu groups who accuse the missionaries of forcibly proselytising low-caste Hindus and tribal groups - a charge the Christian groups deny.
Last month, the southern state of Tamil Nadu passed a controversial new law banning religious conversion through coercion or material inducement.
Many Christian groups in the state protested against the move, which they argued was unconstitutional.
India is a secular state which permits freedom to practice any religion.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bjp; christian; hindu; india; michaeldobbs; pedophilepriests; persecuted; southasialist; terrorism
Hinduism, religion of peace?
posted on 01/15/2003 9:13:03 AM PST
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Why doesn't that shock me? Sigh. Do you have a link?
posted on 01/15/2003 9:38:22 AM PST
You're kidding me.
posted on 01/15/2003 3:55:48 PM PST
To: JimRic54; *all
source : email
The activities of the missionary group that was attacked by local people at the colony near Kilimanoor in Thiruvananthapuram are suspicious . A thorough investigation is needed regarding this.
The following points may be noted 1) The missionary team which entered the village at Kilimanoor on Monday was headed by one Pastor Benson Sam and his wife. Mr. Benson and his wife are the second and third accused in the case of abduction and sexual molestation of a minor girl at the Bible College at Keraladityapuram near Sreekaryam (Thiruvananthapuram). In her deposition before the police the girl had said that she was sexually abused by Benson and at many times presented to foreign missionaries who visited the center. The girl was finally rescued on September 22nd 2002 by local people of Keraladityapuram.
2) The American Bishop Joseph Cooper who was injured in the Kilimanoor incident is said to have entered the country on a tourist visa . A tourist visa does not permit missionary work. Furthermore, a foreigner is legally obliged to obtain prior permission from the Central government before engaging in missionary activities. In this context ,the work of this missionary calls for scrutiny.
3) Benson and team were opposed by a section of the villagers the last time they came here. This is because the miracle cure ceremony which they conducted involved smearing of a substance on the body of people including women. This team also used to abuse the Hindu gods and goddesses as part of their prayer.
The Thiruvananthapuram RSS Vibhag Karyavah has clarified that the organization has no involvement in the attack on the Protestant group at Kilimanoor .There is an effort on to blame the Sangh and affiliated organizations for this incident. Innocent Sangh workers are being taken into custody in the name of questioning. The RSS strongly protests against the motivated campaign that is being mounted against it even before the real culprits have been identified and arrested .It is to be noted that the Chief minister Mr A K Anthony himself has said yesterday (15 Jan) that it is not clear whether the RSS was involved in this incident or not.
posted on 01/16/2003 5:46:38 AM PST
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Yes, an article on Keralanet.com does indicate doubt as to the true nature of these idiots.
posted on 01/16/2003 11:20:26 AM PST
(Strategery -- Surgery for a sick world.)
posted on 01/16/2003 11:44:37 AM PST
by Red Jones
Or maybe this.
posted on 01/16/2003 1:19:22 PM PST
Looks like the pastor was injured when people he was with were confronted and attacked - due to a possible case of pedophilia.
posted on 01/19/2003 3:06:14 PM PST
Ive known Joe Cooper for some 25 years and he is a righteous man, zealous for the things of the Lord. He loves India and desires to give hope to those who have none. I dont know the other man, and if the accusations are true, that is unfortunate.
I do find the letter to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette to be curious. I looked up the RSS and found their mission statements, which included:
The truth is one but can have plural manifestations. This plurality need not be in conflict with one another; it can be cooperative and complementary. To understand, appreciate and realize the unity in a tremendous vortex of diversities, should be the humanity's goal of life
I guess Christianity isnt one of those manifestations. The writer also described India as politically democratic and socially and religiously free. Yet a tour through various human rights reports reveals ongoing violence of one Indian group against another, and the caste system, outlawed in the 50s, appears to be alive and well (unless you are a Dalit - untouchable - and then you are not doing so well).
I have read that the Hindus have re-conversion camps to un-convert Christians back to Hindu. Yet only 2% of the population is Christian, and Christianity has been there for 2000+ years. Why such a threat? I have also read that much of the violence against Christians is really committed by Muslims disguised as Hindus. And everyone knows how well those two groups get along (see: Kashmir). So this whole affair is, uh, generating bad Karma for everyone. Good thing Christians have grace so we dont have to work out Karma. I just pray that Joe comes home soon.
posted on 01/21/2003 6:34:23 PM PST
We feel constrained to point out another little part of the Clinton legacy here. Early in Clinton's administration India had a pro-U.S. prime minister, a quiet and effective man. Clinton an his minions gave this man and India the back of their hand in order to please their Chinese communist controllers. This was a substantial contributing factor in the rise to power of the Hindu nationalists.
No one, absolutely no one is free from the effects of karma. You reap as you sow. No "grace" is enough to offset the effects of karma. That is the truth. Om Shanti !!!!
posted on 01/21/2003 9:11:15 PM PST
" He loves India and desires to give hope to those who have none "
Who pray is Joe Cooper to give hope to anyone, when he himself is scheduled to burn in the hellfire that Islam promises him, because he is not Muslim.
posted on 01/21/2003 9:14:29 PM PST
The truth is in the bible but unfortunately those who try to spread the truth are often attacked. As was predicted in the bible...
very true, even the muslims believe that Koran is the ONLY repository of truth and all those who dont accept Islam are scheduled to burn in hellfire. Go figure.....
posted on 01/21/2003 10:14:07 PM PST
when he himself is scheduled to burn in the hellfire that Islam promises him, because he is not Muslim.
I checked his schedule. He's free for this life and the next.
posted on 01/22/2003 3:57:32 AM PST
(Grace is a karma waiver.)
posted on 01/22/2003 4:06:38 AM PST
(Kick their @$$ and take their gas!)
" I checked his schedule. He's free for this life and the next. "
Who are you ? God /Son of God/Holy Spirit ??? How do you know such things. Bye for now, will meet you in Allah's Hell.
posted on 01/22/2003 4:17:39 AM PST
(Grace is an unmerited Presidential Pardon - a reprieve for rascals)
US missionary attacked in India
Is that a State Department position? What GS rating is he?
posted on 01/22/2003 4:20:24 AM PST
by ASA Vet
(I keep forgetting to change my tag line.)
Just FYI, there is a lot of violence from the RSS towards christians. And there was a day when Ghandi came on the radio in India and told the hindus all across the nation that they should kill muslims. That was in the early stages of the big killing spree of 48 when perhaps a million people were killed in muslim/hindu violence. The violence was in its' early stages, most of the violence had been committed by muslims at that time, ghandi came on the radio nationwide and called for the killing of muslims in retaliation. Then, 3-4 days later Ghandi was crying into the radio microphone about peace and non-violence. I read this from an historian who wrote in National Review. There was a big book out in the 80's about ghandi. He stood for peace yes, but one day he didn't stand for peace. ghandi is human like anyone else. So are the hindus and it happens that some hindus are militants and commit terrible violence against christians.
To: Red Jones
Dont betray your ignorance about Gandhi, India and Christainity in India. Your concocted tripe about "terrible violence against christians" has no basis in facts and is probably an attempt to gather sympathy. Let me also tell you that this is a favourite Marxist technique.
posted on 01/22/2003 4:59:33 AM PST
"terrible violence against christians" has no basis in facts and is probably an attempt to gather sympathy.
uh-huh. Religion of Peace Bump.
posted on 01/22/2003 5:15:03 AM PST
(all together now...Kumbahya my <insert diety here>)
A US missionary attacked in India.
And how many Indian Sikhs attacked in the USA during the past 16 months?
posted on 01/22/2003 5:20:26 AM PST
Fewer than in India.
posted on 01/22/2003 5:24:01 AM PST
Get this straight, child of grace with a tinpot face. Your friend cooper had no business preaching in India while he was on a tourist visa. A tourist visa doesnt allow anyone to preach. Thats the law of the land. In the US of A , a similar offence would have merited a jail term. He violated the law of the land (a bad karma) but no grace was enough to save him.
posted on 01/22/2003 5:34:25 AM PST
I'm crying into my bacon sandwich (but I'm still saved by grace).
I'd love to continue this jihad but I actually have to get ready for work now.
I will pray for you, dear akash.
posted on 01/22/2003 5:40:07 AM PST
"I will pray for you, dear akash "
A waste to time. Anyway both of us are scheduled to go to Allah's hell. Bye see you there.
posted on 01/22/2003 5:50:21 AM PST
So I guess the starving children in India are all paying for "bad karma" in a prior existence...
posted on 01/22/2003 5:57:25 AM PST
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Wow. A Christian lady cant even enjoy her bacon sandwich for breakfast without getting insulted by Upanishad thumpers. Was I forcing my sandwich on you?? Anyway, my high cholesterol diet will make me nice and sizzly in hell, which is where I supposedly am going according to this thread.
posted on 01/22/2003 8:29:29 AM PST
(But I think I'll have a salad for lunch.)
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With all due respect, you started in against Hinduism while munching your sandwich, that is why you got some opposing comments.
Ultimately divine grace will save us, but I don't think that means the law of karma is out the window. If I went out tomorrow and killed some people, then prayed to Jesus for redemption tomorrow night, would I be in better standing than a Hindu or a Buddhist who prays to God using a different name but never hurts anyone?
well, my comments were not really meant to be a negative comment on India or even Mahadma Gonedi. I meant to comment on how so many people take seriously ghandi's non-violent ideology even though it is pure garbage. There is a time and a place for violence. In 48 Gonedi saw a time and a place for violence, and he advocated it on a mass scale. Then he regretted it within days and publicly apologized. It is so amazing how people in the west and people in India fawn over gonedi's image and build it up. When it is so false.
If I went out tomorrow and killed some people, then prayed to Jesus for redemption tomorrow night, would I be in better standing than a Hindu or a Buddhist who prays to God using a different name but never hurts anyone?
I love theological postulations. Thanks for the chuckle.
BUMP! Good post.
To: swarthyguy; Allan
You guys never ping me to the fun discussions anymore. I found this one by accident. If I didn't know any better (?) I'd think you disliked me;-)
posted on 01/27/2003 8:58:48 PM PST
Sorry. You usually get to these before me. I forgot to check.
posted on 01/27/2003 9:06:59 PM PST
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