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Gaelic-speaking 'ghost' caught on recording
The Scotsman ^ | Fri 17 Jan 2003 | CLAIRE SMITH

Posted on 01/17/2003 5:47:07 PM PST by vannrox

Fri 17 Jan 2003

Gaelic-speaking 'ghost' caught on recording


CLAIRE SMITH


csmith@scotsman.com

NEW evidence of ghosts in Edinburgh’s underground city have been recorded

on tape by a radio producer.

Debbie McPhail claims to have made a recording of a ghoulish voice hissing the words: "Get out" or "Go away" in Gaelic.

Mrs McPhail described herself as "a cynical person by nature" - but said she had no explanation for the ghostly voice.

The otherworldly voice ruined a recording she was making in Edinburgh underground vaults with the former rugby international Norrie Rowan, who owns a section of the underground city.

Mrs McPhail said: "I found the place so creepy, I let the presenter go down to do the interview himself.

"When I was listening back to it, I could hear Norrie Rowan chatting and then I heard another voice.

"It was close by to the microphone because you can tell if voices are far away or not. I knew it wasn’t the presenter or Norrie because the voice had a slightly Irish accent.

"When the presenter came back up I asked him who they had met in the vault and he said nobody. I asked a colleague who spoke Gaelic and she said they could be saying ‘get out’ or ‘go away’."

Gordon Stewart, assistant director at Mercat Tours, which conducts visits around the vaults said the recording could be the first actual evidence of psychic phenomena in the vault.

"It is an unusual story and quite chilling. I think it could be the first time anything like this has been recorded in Edinburgh.

"People who come on our tours have been scratched, had their hands jostled and come into contact with unknown things."

Psychologist Richard Wiseman, who has conducted research into the paranormal goings on beneath Edinburgh’s South Bridge, said a third of the subjects in his study had some sort of experience in the vaults, including having their clothes pulled, hearing their names whispered or feeling tugs on their clothing.

But he said the phenomena could have been psychological effects suggested by the damp dripping walls and the dark dismal atmosphere of the underground city.

Dr Paul Stevens, a research fellow at Edinburgh University’s Koestler Parapsychology unit, said: "The vaults are not mapped in places and you don’t know what walls are backing on to.

"At one time someone there thought they were hearing strange sounds, but the wall actually backed on to a massage parlour and that was where the funny noises were coming from.

"It is very creepy down there, so even water dripping can sound like footsteps."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dead; gaelic; ghost; history; past; payorgetoutjohn; recording; scott; strange; unusual
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1 posted on 01/17/2003 5:47:07 PM PST by vannrox
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2 posted on 01/17/2003 5:47:58 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: vannrox
Was it something like "Bug leat! Bug leat!" ?
3 posted on 01/17/2003 5:50:09 PM PST by sean_og
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To: vannrox
Life without Jesus.




The Real One.

4 posted on 01/17/2003 5:56:20 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Yeah yeah...save the brilliant retort.)
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To: vannrox
I think they got a picture of the ghost at this web site. You have to concentrate very hard on the picture, and focus, and then you can see it. Took me a minute or so, but there it is plain as day.
6 posted on 01/17/2003 5:58:47 PM PST by Defiant
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To: Defiant

LOL


7 posted on 01/17/2003 6:04:44 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: Defiant
Holy cow - that nearly gave me a heart attack!
8 posted on 01/17/2003 6:11:01 PM PST by 2banana
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To: VaBthang4
I am not quite sure I follow what you mean.
9 posted on 01/17/2003 6:11:14 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: 2banana
Sorry. Ghosts can be so unpredictable.
10 posted on 01/17/2003 6:13:45 PM PST by Defiant
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To: vannrox
I haven't looked into this story, but there is a good deal of evidence by researchers who pick up otherwordly voices in graveyards, prisons, old houses using common cassette recorders. EVP I believe they call it.
11 posted on 01/17/2003 6:14:21 PM PST by Solamente
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To: vannrox
If you're like me, you're now showing it to everyone in the vicinity.
12 posted on 01/17/2003 6:14:52 PM PST by Defiant
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To: Defiant
Doing CPR on myself.......LOL
13 posted on 01/17/2003 6:15:07 PM PST by Jimmyclyde
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To: Defiant
That scared the beejeepers out of me!!
14 posted on 01/17/2003 6:19:15 PM PST by Porterville
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To: Porterville
My wife fell backwards out of the chair when she saw it. I had a bit of an adrenaline rush myself first time I saw it.
15 posted on 01/17/2003 6:22:31 PM PST by Defiant
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To: vannrox
I think the History channel did something on this a few years ago. I think this stuff is just plain fun.

We rented a house one summer in York, England. One night I heard a weird scream, but it was pub closing time, figured it was a patron. I heard the exact scream a few more times during our stay, by now figuring it was someones stereo.

At the end of our stay we went on a "ghost walk". The tour concluded at our rental telling a story that this area at one time was an orphanage. The guy in charge would kill the children and still collect money for their stay. The tour guide said that you can still hear the screams. Gotta admit it raised the hair on the back of my neck, but I still think it was somones stereo.

My dream list for vacations: Edinburgh (for the ghost stories), Alaska, Venice.
16 posted on 01/17/2003 6:23:22 PM PST by lizma
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To: Karsus
I dont care.

~Grin~
17 posted on 01/17/2003 6:27:59 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Defiant
I'll be back... I need to go change my drawers
18 posted on 01/17/2003 6:30:39 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: Defiant
Took me a minute or so, but there it is plain as day.

LOL, you're mean.

Sent this one out last Halloween. Not all my e-mail recipients were happy about it. (Sorry Mom)

19 posted on 01/17/2003 6:31:51 PM PST by lizma
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To: vannrox
"At one time someone there thought they were hearing strange sounds, but the wall actually backed on to a massage parlour and that was where the funny noises were coming from.

LOL!

20 posted on 01/17/2003 6:34:17 PM PST by Nubbin (my prrrrreeecccssssiiooouuuusssssss!!!)
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To: lizma
I got this via email from a friend. Got me hook, line and sinker, made my heart skip several beats. So naturally, I had to get the kids and the wife, one by one, and then send it out to everyone I know. No one has gotten mad, and all have been eager to get the next guy with it.
21 posted on 01/17/2003 6:37:52 PM PST by Defiant
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To: Support Free Republic
This thread was real creepy till you went and posted that picture of the ghost at #2. LOL.
22 posted on 01/17/2003 6:40:40 PM PST by savedbygrace (Jesus is Lord)
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To: Defiant
LOL! That one got me a few months ago and right away I wanted to show the site to all of my friends - that is, once my heart beat returned to normal :-)
23 posted on 01/17/2003 6:46:56 PM PST by inflorida
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To: Defiant
one by one

LOL! I did the same thing!

But when I sent it to my parents, I got a tongue lashing from my ma that rivalled the ones I got thirty years prior. She was not a happy camper and made sure I knew it!

Wonder if I can catch her again next year?

24 posted on 01/17/2003 6:52:47 PM PST by lizma
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To: lizma
Hopefully, your mom will still open your emails. Just not the links inside.
25 posted on 01/17/2003 7:04:06 PM PST by Defiant
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To: vannrox
Debbie McPhail claims to have made a recording of a ghoulish voice hissing the words: "Get out" or "Go away" in Gaelic.

Probably just skinheads. Fumigation, air, cart away, repeat as necessary.

26 posted on 01/17/2003 7:29:17 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: vannrox
Can we say publicity stunt!
27 posted on 01/17/2003 7:29:46 PM PST by Turbodog
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To: Defiant
LOL!!!!!!!!
28 posted on 01/17/2003 7:31:22 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: vannrox
It was actually saying, "My precioussssssssss...."
29 posted on 01/17/2003 7:47:21 PM PST by ChemistCat (...I am too busy to be insecure.)
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To: Defiant
LOL....good one!

I knew something was up when I saw the .swf extention on the link. ;^)
30 posted on 01/17/2003 9:07:26 PM PST by thescourged1
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To: Defiant
That could kill a person who has a weak heart.
31 posted on 01/17/2003 9:11:36 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: VaBthang4
FR is turning into DU more and more each day. If you didn't wish to respond, you didn't have to. Responding to a legitimate question with such a childish response it what I would expect from slashdot.org or du, not FR.



32 posted on 01/17/2003 9:59:32 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: Defiant
can someone post a pic from the website? It wont load for me
33 posted on 01/17/2003 10:26:27 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
It requires Flash player to view properly, I think.
34 posted on 01/17/2003 11:29:36 PM PST by Defiant
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To: Defiant
You silly!
35 posted on 01/18/2003 1:22:22 AM PST by DBtoo
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To: Defiant
You have caused my computer chair to fly backwards into the closet door,the sudden stop caused the coffee to fly all over the contents of the chair,which is me.I am now wide awake.Thank You.
36 posted on 01/18/2003 2:34:22 AM PST by zygoat
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To: vannrox
'If walls could talk'. . .

. . .maybe we just need to 'listen up'.

37 posted on 01/18/2003 6:23:10 AM PST by cricket
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To: Defiant
T h a n k s. . .for the heart attack!

. . . and now some Excedrin. . .

38 posted on 01/18/2003 6:26:15 AM PST by cricket
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I've got a personal ghost story that is really creepy--unbelievable, but it is the honest to God's truth.

I was doing a paper on a mental hospital in Maine for college a couple of years ago. It was called Pineland, in Pownal Maine. It had been shut down for a long time.

When I looked into the long history of Pineland, I found all kinds of horrible things. The patients sat around naked in their own feces for days, or just chained up and forgotton about. The conditions there were extremely bad for a long time--mostly because they had no staffing, but also because of the view the medical establishment had about mentally retarded folk back then. There were a number of sadistic doctors that worked there, and many people died at a young age in Pineland. I don't think that place saw many happy days.

Well, I found out that a humanitarian group had bought Pineland and decided to renovate it. I decided that I could augment my paper by taking some video footage of Pineland before it was gone forever. So I rounded up a friend and we rolled out around five, after we knew the construction workers would be gone.

Now, Pineland is huge. It is not one building, but a cluster of about fifteen buildings. So the property is huge. We get on it and start looking around. A lot of the buildings had already been gutted, windows and doors gone but boarded up.

I started filming, talking a little about each building and what it had been used for. It was then that we heard some noise in the building.

There was no wind that day. We heard loud, loud pounding inside the building I was filming. But no one was inside! You know how I know? The doors were all padlocked and the windows were boarded. There was no way in.

Sufficently creeped out, we began to stalk around some other buildings. We found a ground window without a board, and stuck the camera in it. We heard the same pounding noise. Then, nothing. Then, BANG! Right next to the camera!

I screamed and pulled out of the window. We decided to do the ultimate test--get into one of the buildings.

We looked around for a building with a way in. Finally we found a forgotten back door on the side of what had been the hospital. We squeezed through the opening and went up some stairs.

We were in a huge, empty room. There was a wide corridor to the left, and then an identical large room. We were silent as I slowly panned the camera around.

Then we heard the banging. At first it was above us. Then it was quiet. Then the banging started in the other room. We edged to the stairs. Then came a bang in the hallway, and we ran for it.

We ran out the building, down the driveway, and into the car. When we got home, freaked out, my friend and I decided to make my husband watch the tape.

On the tape, all the noises can clearly be heard, and even some weird noises that I didn't hear while there. The creepy part? On the tape, when we enter the hospital and are going up the stairs, you can see little balls of light zipping around the screen. Diagonally, horizontally, and vertically. They form clusters and are sometimes lone. They were going across the screen the entire time we were in the hospital. When the noises occured, the balls of light intensified. I DID NOT SEE THIS WHILE FILMING.

My friend took her video camera home with the tape in it. She was going to make copies of it for me. While she was at work the next day, her teenage son used the camera to film some footage of their new dog. He taped over our Pineland visit.

So, I had proof but the tape was destroyed. Argh!
39 posted on 01/18/2003 7:01:59 AM PST by Morrigan
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To: Defiant
God that pirate outfit and the snaggle tooth sure were scary! It looked a lot like Big Pussy from the 'Sopranos,' with quite a bit of Web Hubble or Chelsea Clinton arond the mouth.
40 posted on 01/18/2003 7:10:40 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Morrigan
Teach you to hang around Maine!
41 posted on 01/18/2003 7:12:12 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Junior
Fortean Bump.

You know, we need a Fortean list...

42 posted on 01/18/2003 7:30:39 AM PST by Junior (No tag line this time.)
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To: Morrigan
Have you gone back? Tearing down buildings shouldn't have disturbed whatever was there...if anything was.

Did you believe in such things before you went?
43 posted on 01/18/2003 10:40:36 AM PST by ChemistCat (...I am too busy to be insecure.)
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To: ChemistCat
We haven't gone back, although we have talked about it a lot. I kind of believed in "paranormal" stuff before we went, but I am one of those people that has to see something to believe it. My friend that went began believing in life after death after that visit. I always believed that there was something out there, call it God if you want, but something that watches over us. She didn't. She believed that when you died, that was it. Kind of hard to go on believing that when you are faced with the evidence that the soul DOES go on.
44 posted on 01/18/2003 10:57:34 AM PST by Morrigan
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To: Karsus
"FR is turning into DU more and more each day."

Somehow life will go on.

"If you didn't wish to respond, you didn't have to."

I did wish to respond....so I did.

"Responding to a legitimate question with such a childish response it what I would expect from slashdot.org or du, not FR."

You did not ask a question.

Weak posts riddled with whining and false accusation...is that FR?

~Grin~

45 posted on 01/18/2003 11:44:56 AM PST by VaBthang4 (Next time bring a lunch)
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"People who come on our tours have been scratched, had their hands jostled and come into contact with unknown things."

The same thing has happened to me at the mall. So I stay away.

Seriously, what would prompt the person to find someone who spoke Gaelic of all things? I mean, did they say, "Gee, that sure sounds Gaelic?"

Just wondering...

46 posted on 01/18/2003 11:56:29 AM PST by TN4Liberty (What is Gaelic for "Go Titans?")
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To: TN4Liberty
Good point. I would hardly recognize a few words of whispered Cherokee, and I LIVE among many.
47 posted on 01/18/2003 12:18:53 PM PST by ChemistCat (...I am too busy to be insecure.)
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To: VaBthang4
I asked what you ment. I some how expected a former member of our military to be able to explain whe he ment. Guess I was mistaken.

Good Day.
48 posted on 01/18/2003 5:17:29 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: vannrox
This from the same paper that regularly published virulent anti-Bush, America-hating diatribes. This article pretty much seals their intellectual reputation.
49 posted on 01/18/2003 5:20:06 PM PST by Timesink (Poodle: The Other White Meat)
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To: All
Creepy sidebar to my ghost story in post 39. Ever since I posted that, my TV has been turning off by itself. All day. Is my TV on the fritz or is it something else.....

50 posted on 01/18/2003 6:12:47 PM PST by Morrigan
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