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Ritter case handling prompts questions. ( Article mentions Free Republic )
Albany Times Union
Posted on 01/22/2003 12:13:24 PM PST by 1Old Pro
| Ritter case handling prompts questions |
By MARK McGUIRE, Staff writer
First published: Wednesday, January 22, 2003
Scott Ritter's legal problems will keep media pundits busy for months. The issues surrounding the case -- from separating private conduct and public policy to the fairness of leaking sealed court documents -- is ample fodder for dozens of columns.
An example: Alan Chartock thinks there is something unfair about the handling of the Ritter case, which centers on a 2001 arrest only now being revealed.
"Since we don't really know anything, under fair-play rules, a presumption of innocence until proven guilty ... it seems to me, to be unfair for any one of us to make remarks," the WAMC (90.3 FM) executive director and WNYT Ch. 13 commentator said on Tuesday.
Last weekend, it came to light that Ritter was arrested in 2001 after trying to arrange a meeting at a Menands Burger King with a 16-year-old he had met on the Internet. The supposed teenager was in fact an undercover investigator. In a sealed decision, Ritter was given an adjournment in contemplation of dismissal.
"There is also the inability to separate out what the guy's message is with his personal problem here," said Chartock, who also co-hosts WAMC's "The Media Project" with WNYT anchor Lydia Kulbida and Times Union editor Rex Smith. "I am every bit as impressed with the gravitas of his remarks (on the conflict with Iraq) as I ever was.
"Right-wing radio stations continue to beat him up and try to impugn the message based on his personal issues. And that is an old, demagogic, right-wing trick."
Chartock dismissed the notion that Ritter's very prominent involvement during a 2002 WAMC fund drive -- tapes of Chartock's interview with Ritter were given away as a contributor's gift -- plays a role in his defense of the embattled former weapons inspector.
Another example: Tuesday morning, Paul Conti's e-mail box was filling rapidly. Writers from around the country were upbraiding the WNYT Ch. 13 news director for withholding videotape of the 2001 arrest of Ritter.
Great story. If it were true.
Fueled by an error in an Internet report, at least two dozen people angrily wrote WNYT, believing it was shielding Ritter because the affiliate supported the Delmar man's denunciations of President Bush and a potential war with Iraq.
As if a station -- any station -- possessing such explosive footage would withhold it.
There is no tape. The station does have Ritter's mug shot from the arrest, and footage of the Burger King restaurant taken the night of his bust, but after he left the scene. The station aired the footage Monday: It does not have any footage of Ritter in cuffs.
The erroneous report that WNYT has such footage emanated from one conservative Web site, http://www.WorldNetDaily.com, and made its way to another message board, http://www.freerepublic.com.
" ... This radically left-wing peacenik affiliate 'forgot' they had this incredible tape and STILL will not release it!," one poster wrote.
That so many people would think a television outlet would sit on an explosive exclusive to protect an anti-war activist is a testament to the effectiveness of conservatives constantly screeching about the "left-wing media."
In 2001, the station did not identify the man arrested as the former weapons inspector. Ritter was charged with misdemeanor attempted endangerment of a child under his given name, William S. Ritter (Scott is his middle name). "At the time, we didn't make the connection," Conti said. "We didn't discover it until we searched the archives (on Monday)."
The story emerged locally Saturday in The Daily Gazette, then was fueled by more elements in the New York edition of The Daily News. TV has layered it.
Tuesday, The Associated Press picked it up, as did the Internet and talk radio in earnest. The cable nets have been dancing around the issue, but are starting to jump on it.
The local story -- how the district attorney's office and the cops handled the case -- will be around for a while. Ritter canceled a trip to Iraq Tuesday; until he makes some sort of public statement, the story will linger nationally.
Mark McGuire is the Times Union TV/radio writer. His column generally appears Sunday, Tuesday and Friday. Call him at 454-5467 or send e-mail to mmcguire@timesunion.com.
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My comments below:
The news director's OWN words suggested that there was a tape. It has nothing to do with spreading rumors.
The station has a mug shot of Ritter along with the footage, said News Director Paul Conti. "If it's not him, it's either his clone or a twin," said Conti. The news director said the 16-year-old girl had been lured by Ritter to meet him at the Burger King in Menands, N.Y., in order "to have her watch him have sex with himself." "Anyone who went to the Burger King that day could confirm the details of that event and report that a sting operation was underway that involved a decoy officer posing as a 16-year-old girl," Conti said. Conti told WorldNetDaily that WNYT plans to continue airing its information. Video footage of the arrest is being shown in the station's newscasts, because it was acquired prior to the sealing order, he said.
Perhaps Mr. McGuire, AN OBVIOUS LURKER, should look into Conti's misleading QUOTE which started all this....not right wing internet sites.
By MARK McGUIRE, Staff writer
First published: Wednesday, January 22, 2003
TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: scottrittercase; therewasatape; toomuchdenial
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THIS WHOLE ISSUE ABOUT THE "TAPE" CLEARLY COMES FROM THE TV STATION NEWS DIRECTORS NOT SO CLEAR STATEMENT TO WND.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:13:25 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:15:30 PM PST
by
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To: 1Old Pro
Perhaps Mr. McGuire, AN OBVIOUS LURKER, should look into Conti's misleading QUOTE which started all this....not right wing internet sites. Good catch! Did you e-mail him on his error?
To: 1Old Pro
"That so many people would think a television outlet would sit on an explosive exclusive to protect an anti-war activist"
cough cough...Lisa Meyers....cough...interview w/ Ms. Broadrick...cough...held up for months...
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:16:44 PM PST
by
KantianBurke
(I believe the news media as much as I believe Bubba)
To: KantianBurke
cough cough...Lisa Meyers....cough...interview w/ Ms. Broadrick...cough...held up for months... GAME, SET, MATCH!
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:18:09 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: DallasMike
Good catch! Did you e-mail him on his error? It might be better if it came from elsewhere as he used my quote in the article. BTW, WNYT is an extremist Left-Wing affiliate and most everyone who is aware knows it.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:20:53 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: 1Old Pro
And who would have thought that Larry Flynt was a right winger looking into the private lives of others...........evidently this ox belongs to the left and ought not be gored.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:23:18 PM PST
by
OldFriend
(Nuke Iraq Now)
To: 1Old Pro
"Since we don't really know anything, under fair-play rules, a presumption of innocence until proven guilty ... it seems to me, to be unfair for any one of us to make remarks," the WAMC (90.3 FM) executive director and WNYT Ch. 13 commentator said on Tuesday. Were these stations similarly solicitous of the rights of Linda Tripp when Jane Mayer in the New Yorker aired that childhood charge of shoplifting against her that it turned out the judge had dismissed? I know a lot of the rest of the media was not.
To: 1Old Pro
>>The local story -- how the district attorney's office and the cops handled the case -- will be around for a while. Ritter canceled a trip to Iraq Tuesday; until he makes some sort of public statement, the story will linger nationally. <<
I wonder if Mr William Scott Ritter will explain why he is going to Iraq?
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:25:23 PM PST
by
maica
To: 1Old Pro
Interesting if someone should sue the station for the misleading story and subpoena the tape..
To: 1Old Pro
Mr. McGuire should also look into why the ADA did what she did. Inquiring minds want to know, Mr. McGuire. Though the fact that this happened where it did is hardly surprising.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:27:56 PM PST
by
mewzilla
To: 1Old Pro
I liked this part!
Tuesday, The Associated Press picked it up, as did the Internet and talk radio in earnest. The cable nets have been dancing around the issue, but are starting to jump on it.
The local story -- how the district attorney's office and the cops handled the case -- will be around for a while. Ritter canceled a trip to Iraq Tuesday; until he makes some sort of public statement, the story will linger nationally.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:27:58 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: DallasMike
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:28:18 PM PST
by
CyberCowboy777
(Extremism in the Pursuit of Liberty is no Vice!)
To: KantianBurke
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:28:40 PM PST
by
CyberCowboy777
(Extremism in the Pursuit of Liberty is no Vice!)
To: 1Old Pro
Moral turpitude is protected behavior for liberals.
This is the guy we trusted to take of business in Iraq. Was he protecting our interests, or was he chasing underage sex kittens?
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:28:41 PM PST
by
radioman
To: maica
Ritter is on a pay per pronouncement basis with his Iraqi bosses.
If he does not dance to thier tune at this point, they will release tapes of his recruitment when he first agreed to take their money.
Just IMHO.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:29:50 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: aristeides
Were these stations similarly solicitous of the rights of Linda Tripp In a word. NO.It seems that memories can be selective and short. FYI, Alan Chartock was Mario Cuomo's best buddy and probably wrote Mario's Press releases as news stories.
Many have said that if Mario stopped quickly Chartock's head would have got stuck in his butt.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:30:18 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: 1Old Pro
"There is also the inability to separate out what the guy's message is with his personal problem here," said Chartock, I'm sorry...did I miss something...
Does this man seriously mean to say, that Luring a girl you think to be under 18, and therefore Jail Bait, to a Motel Liason, does NOT call ones judgement into question......
Oh, that's right it's just about Sex.
Sorry Scott, You'd better put some ice on that....
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:31:19 PM PST
by
hobbes1
To: 1Old Pro
And a note to Mr. Chartock: An inability to separate the message form the messenger?? Did it ever occur to you, bright boy, that the messenger might just have been blackmailed into delivering the message? And if so, what does it say about the message if someone has to be blackmailed into delivering it?
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:31:21 PM PST
by
mewzilla
To: mewzilla
Mr. McGuire should also look into why the ADA did what she did. Can't do that, she's a Democrat.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:31:34 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: doug from upland
fyi lol
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:32:10 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: rolling_stone
That assumes it wasn't WorldNetDaily that made the mistake about the existence of a video of the arrest.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:32:10 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: TLBSHOW
Tuesday, The Associated Press picked it up, as did the Internet and talk radio in earnest. The cable nets have been dancing around the issue, but are starting to jump on it. Sure, they wait to report hoping the story will die and they won't have to write something negative about their little (pervert) hero.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:33:08 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: hobbes1
I'm sorry...did I miss something... Not to mention that Chartock can barely speak in intelligible sentences
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:34:37 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: 1Old Pro
GAME, SET, MATCH!only if youre a pantywaste
I prefer
Skate / shoot / score
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:34:45 PM PST
by
Revelation 911
(have Zot, will travel)
To: 1Old Pro
Can't do that, she's a Democrat.Well, he lives there. And if McGuire is happy to let his officials allow pervs to roam his streets...Doesn't say much for Mr. McGuire, does it?
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:35:14 PM PST
by
mewzilla
To: mewzilla
And if McGuire is happy to let his officials allow pervs to roam his streets...Doesn't say much for Mr. McGuire, does it? To be fair, he's a media writer. Hopefully he will ask these questions of his fellow newspaper reporters.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:38:38 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: 1Old Pro
That so many people would think a television outlet would sit on an explosive exclusive to protect an anti-war activist is a testament to the effectiveness of conservatives constantly screeching about the "left-wing media." Guess he hasn't heard about Bias or Slander. Hmm, imagine THAT! I'm shocked, just shocked, I tell you!
That so many mediots would think that conservatives would continue to buy their propaganda or alleged "ignorance to actual facts," hook, line, and sinker, is a testament to the effectiveness of the conservative base waking up and saying: "WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!"
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:39:44 PM PST
by
nicmarlo
To: nicmarlo
Exactly bttt
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:40:36 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: mewzilla; sweetliberty
Looks like the liberal Albany Paper Now Wants to Play...... Never mind that Scott tried to fool around with a child. Liberals are trash!
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:42:21 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: 1Old Pro
"I am every bit as impressed with the gravitas of his remarks (on the conflict with Iraq) as I ever was. Is she referring to Ritter's statements from just after he left Iraq or his current ones? They are two completely different positions. Maybe that's what Ritter meant when he said his arrest was a case of mistaken identity. He has a split personality.
To: Hillarys Gate Cult
bttt
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:44:20 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: 1Old Pro
To be fair, he's a media writer. Hopefully he will ask these questions of his fellow newspaper reporters.Let's NOT be fair. I don't live in the Albany area, but I know people who do and thanks to them I know enough to be damn glad I don't live there. If McGuire cares enough about the issue, his job description shouldn't impede his asking some tough questions.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:44:45 PM PST
by
mewzilla
To: Hillarys Gate Cult
He has a split personality. And that's just one of his many problems.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:45:31 PM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: TLBSHOW; sweetliberty
Liberals are trash! especially mediots and politicians, like the Clintonistas.
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posted on
01/22/2003 12:46:21 PM PST
by
nicmarlo
To: nicmarlo
They absolutely hate Rush and WND and Free Republic. These are places that clearly and loudly proclaim truth and truth is the arch enemy to the liberal/socialist agenda. They thrive by snaring people in a web of confusion. We destroy their web. And what really frightens them is that our numbers are growing and theirs' are waning and they have yet to find a way to address that and turn it around without compromising their agenda. Must hurt when people reject what you've clearly told them that they want, huh?
To: sweetliberty
They absolutely hate Rush and WND and Free Republic. These are places that clearly and loudly proclaim truth and truth is the arch enemy to the liberal/socialist agenda. Yes; we hold up the mirror to all their lies. And they don't like what they say: the truth piercing into their ugly faces and black souls.
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posted on
01/22/2003 1:03:33 PM PST
by
nicmarlo
To: nicmarlo
And they don't like what they see: the truth piercing into their ugly faces and black souls.
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posted on
01/22/2003 1:05:25 PM PST
by
nicmarlo
To: 1Old Pro
The issue here isn't the videotape, it's the story itself. And the defense that the station didn't have proof so it was OK to spike the story is not how conservatives are dealt with in similar situations, from Clarence Thomas to Newt Gingrich to Henry Hyde. I think a slightly more consistent policy in this regard would go a long way to alleviating the unmistakable impression that the media are cutting Mr. Ritter a break because he's simply too useful as a vocal opponent of administration policy.
To: 1Old Pro
This guy is intentionally or unintentionally missing the point. Why this arrest is significant in regards to his public pro-Iraq pronouncements is that it may help unshield a mysteries on how and why Ritter did a 180 on his stance towards Iraq.
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posted on
01/22/2003 1:12:39 PM PST
by
L`enn
To: nicmarlo
That so many people would think a television outlet would sit on an explosive exclusive to protect an anti-war activist is a testament to the effectiveness of conservatives constantly screeching about the "left-wing media."
Or a testament to the fact that anyone with eyes has seen their history of bias. Either would explain the widespread skepticism.
Doesn't Occam's Razor require we prefer the simplest explanation consistent with the facts?
To: hobbes1
I'm sorry...did I miss something... Yeah, you missed the part about it being ok to focus on a 30 year old drunk driving incident if the guy is a Republican Candidate for President.
To: 1Old Pro
DAY of SUPPORT....FLY your flags (US, a British one, Hungarian, Australian and Japanese one, too if you have them)....and put up your BUSH/CHENEY signs, (and the BIG W's on your SUV's) for the STATE of the UNION next Tuesday, Jan 28th, if you support the President, our MILITARY and the United States of America.
PSST....pass it on.





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posted on
01/22/2003 1:32:56 PM PST
by
goodnesswins
((I'm supposed to be working on my book and business, but THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT!))
To: 1Old Pro
That so many people would think a television outlet would sit on an explosive exclusive to protect an anti-war activist is a testament to the effectiveness of conservatives constantly screeching about the "left-wing media." Why be so defensive about it? After all, who knows the poster was a right winger? Ridiculous, it proves the left wing media does exist, is in denial, lies and power mode.
To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I'm OK and so am I!
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posted on
01/22/2003 1:38:46 PM PST
by
richardtavor
("The drum gets louder and faster every day" - British Commander before the Zulu War)
To: Norman Conquest
Excuse me, doesn't this story acknowledge they took tape at the Burger King THAT NIGHT and that they had Ritter's mug shot????
Obviously, they knew about the incident right after it happened and didn't cover it. Now they are putting up a strawman argument that they don't have video of Scott in handcuffs. So?? You mean they can only do a story on a famous arrest if they have photos of the person in handcuffs??
And separating his public message from this behavior? Excuse me, but trying to diddle a 14 year old makes you one sick _ _ _ _. And going back for more after getting caught makes you extremely sick, out of control, and stupid. My daughter is 11. Don't tell me that I should give any credence to a pervert who would like to molest her. Further, isn't it nice how our news outlets strive to prevent me from making such an informed judgment??
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posted on
01/22/2003 1:47:48 PM PST
by
Williams
To: 1Old Pro
Dang I hate it when long covered up secrets come
out into the light of day. (</sarcasm)
I'd cry a tear for liberals and Ritter, but I seem
to remember something about a long forgotten
DUI come about November 3rd 2000.
Nope, no sympathy for Ritter here.
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posted on
01/22/2003 2:12:27 PM PST
by
ottersnot
(prevent truth decay (slogan stolen from Rush))
To: 1Old Pro
An example: Alan Chartock thinks there is something unfair about the handling of the Ritter case, which centers on a 2001 arrest only now being revealed. Just for conparison, I wonder how Mr. Chartock felt about the years old revelation of Dubya's DUI arrest.
Here is some insight.
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posted on
01/22/2003 2:36:30 PM PST
by
TankerKC
(That handle left of the steering column? It's a "turn signal".)
To: 1Old Pro
I'm starting to think there may be a tape.
Maybe we should put out a search request to see if anyone recorded it.
To: 1Old Pro
The liberal media sure didn't waste any time circling the wagons around their boy Ritter, did they? Notice that there's no mention of the fact that Ritter totally denied the story when first confronted about it -- IOW, he blatently lied.
What do we know?
According to what's been reported, we know that
Ritter was busted not once, but twice for solicitation of a minorthe first time he was caught, he was given 6 months probation
Ritter violated probation 3 months into it by soliciting the second minor
at some point in this process he was ordered to undergo sex offender counseling
the court records of these proceedings are sealed from public view, even as the court has been inexplicably lenient to a repeat offender like Ritter
the ADA who prosecuted Ritter for his crimes was fired by her boss for not handing off this "sensitive" case to him before taking it to court
Any reasonable person would conclude from all this that Ritter has been given preferential treatment by the court and by the prosecutor's office, that their motive is political and that they are willing to permit a known sexual predator to roam the community, exposing other children to the danger he presents -- all to protect their leftist agenda.
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