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N.C. Rep. Michael Decker Switches to Democrat Party (Switches Control to Democrats)
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Posted on 01/24/2003 10:59:33 AM PST by jern

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To: jern
The Democrats are masters at stealing through defection what they can't win through election.

-PJ

52 posted on 01/24/2003 12:28:00 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: guaguanco
Oh, I understand your line of reasoning, I just don't agree with it.

Okay, and that would be because . . . oh, you're a contrarian -- you question the CW and get a smug look on your face, without addressing any of the arguments advanced by those you disagree with.

Spare me the drama.

53 posted on 01/24/2003 12:32:10 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Everyone knows that square is the shape of evil! -Spongebob Squarepants)
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To: Windom Earle; F.J. Mitchell; jern; Howlin; mykdsmom
Party activists are furious. This guy owes an explanation to his constituents and to the GOP.

I am LIVID.
Here's my e-mail to his office, since I could not get through on the phone:

Rep. Decker (or the anonymous lackey reading this):Rep. Decker (or the anonymous lackey reading this):

I read with utter disgust the fact that you jumped ship and switched to the Democratic party today. These sorts of shenanigans maybe be fine for Yankee Republicans-in-name-only like Jim Jeffords, but I thought North Carolinians were above it.

Were you, or were you not elected as a REPUBLICAN? That's what I thought. You should be deeply ashamed.

Have a blast wallowing in the Cesspool Party with all of the baby-killers, sodomites, socialists and race-baiters and election-stealers!

(my real name)
_______ , NC

54 posted on 01/24/2003 12:34:24 PM PST by Constitution Day ("Liberals have many tails, and chase them all." - H.L. Mencken)
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To: Constitution Day
I shouldn't be sending that ______ email right now. He wouldn't have had any donations from trial lawyers, would he?
55 posted on 01/24/2003 12:40:06 PM PST by Overtaxed (HHD)
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To: gonewt
We moved here from FL in '95 and I've been trying desperately for the past 3 years to leave this tax hellhole. Unfortuately my husbands job ties us here.

MKM

56 posted on 01/24/2003 12:40:36 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: Overtaxed
You never know, do you?
57 posted on 01/24/2003 12:41:17 PM PST by Constitution Day ("Liberals have many tails, and chase them all." - H.L. Mencken)
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To: Windom Earle
Just another example of the N.C. Republican Party shooting itself in the foot.

We seem to be adept at quarreling among ourselves.


58 posted on 01/24/2003 12:41:52 PM PST by defeat_the_dem_igods
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To: mykdsmom
tax hellhole

Great description! I've never been able to figure out why the sheep in this state allow our state legislature to tax us to DEATH, as if we live in New York or Massachusetts.

Oops, the state tax rate is actually LOWER in Massachusetts!

60 posted on 01/24/2003 12:44:06 PM PST by gonewt
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To: mykdsmom
Well my company is leaving here for Kansas sometime this summer.
61 posted on 01/24/2003 12:44:27 PM PST by Overtaxed (HHD)
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To: Overtaxed
Are you going with them?
62 posted on 01/24/2003 12:46:45 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: gonewt
I've never been able to figure out why the sheep in this state allow our state legislature to tax us to DEATH

Easily answered with a question.

"How many state employees does it take to change a lightbulb?


63 posted on 01/24/2003 12:48:43 PM PST by defeat_the_dem_igods
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To: mykdsmom
I'm waiting for the official offer to come through but they want me there.
64 posted on 01/24/2003 12:49:02 PM PST by Overtaxed (HHD)
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To: Overtaxed
Are you happy about it?

We will miss you : (

65 posted on 01/24/2003 12:52:13 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: Overtaxed
Oh, no! I will miss you too, OT. :(
66 posted on 01/24/2003 12:54:17 PM PST by Constitution Day ("Liberals have many tails, and chase them all." - H.L. Mencken)
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To: mykdsmom
Kind of mixed. But if the money's good, I'll probably be outta here.
67 posted on 01/24/2003 12:54:30 PM PST by Overtaxed (HHD)
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To: Constitution Day
The problem is what to do with the house....not too sure about the real estate market here.
68 posted on 01/24/2003 12:57:26 PM PST by Overtaxed (HHD)
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To: guaguanco
1) I admit I used a sarchastic phrase in my response, but I didn't call you names.

Oh, give me a break, you appear to get off on calling others hypocrites.

2) If the democratic party in Mississippi is so liberal, and the republicans are so conservative, why did democrats vote for a democratic candidate if they wanted him to really be a republican? And why did he run as a democrat if he was so ideologically out-of-step with his party?

There hasn't hardly been a Republican Party in Mississippi until recently: liberals and conservatives were all in the Democrat Party. Party identification has said nothing about ideology until recently, and Mississippi votes for legislators every 4 years, which means a lot has changed in the last one or two cycles. Since back then, when a lot of these folks were getting started in politics, the Republican Party has appeared, and has unequivocally been the party of conservatives, while the MISS Rat Party has become closer and closer to the national liberals. When given the choice between conservative Rep Ronnie Shows and conservative Rep Chip Pickering, folks who would have voted for Shows as an incumbent went in droves for Pickering, the Republican, who won 2-1, clear evidence that folks will acquiesce if their conservative wants to be a Rat but would prefer him to be a Pub.

Which means that it really has nothing to do with a conservative leaving the Republican party in NC.

Now that you've been educated, you can take back everything you said, and plead ignorance. C'mon:

69 posted on 01/24/2003 1:00:08 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Everyone knows that square is the shape of evil! -Spongebob Squarepants)
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To: jern
and from Carolina Journal

Government – NC's Growth Industry Daily Journal for April 18, 2002 By JOHN HOOD RALEIGH – Yesterday I observed that North Carolina has more public employees per capita than any other state in the region – and, indeed, exceeds the national average in this regard.

But I left out the "flow" in this "stock and flow" equation. That is, not only are our governments overstaffed by regional and national standards, but they have posted some of the most rapid growth rates in the country in recent years.

From 1996 to 2001, the number of state employees in North Carolina grew by 12.5 percent, ranking us 8th in the nation in workforce expansion. Our local governments added 22.3 percent more employees during the same period, the 3rd highest growth rate in the nation. These data are reported by the U.S. Census Bureau.

My colleague Greg Kaza at the Arkansas Policy Foundation pointed me to some recent employment data that show how this trend has extended into 2002.

From September 2001 to February 2002, North Carolina's private sector lost 22,100 jobs. Particularly hard hit were manufacturing (12,100 net reduction in jobs) and services (7,600 jobs). But government in North Carolina added 7,600 jobs during the same period.

Remember, September 2001 was also the month that Gov. Mike Easley and the North Carolina General Assembly enacted one of the largest tax increases in state history. So at the same time that government was imposing new costs on a weakening economy – you can't blame the tax hike for the entire 22,100 job loss, of course, but it likely was a contributing factor – it was adding thousands of new employees.

Whatever words you choose to describe state and local government in North Carolina, "austerity" should not be on the list. While the private sector really is downsizing and adjusting to changing conditions, the public sector is taking even more money away from the people who earned it in order to continue its seemingly unstoppable growth.


71 posted on 01/24/2003 1:17:51 PM PST by defeat_the_dem_igods
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To: mykdsmom
I don't imagine the present weather has done much to warm up your opinion of the Peoples Republic of NC either. I truly believe though, that someday,maybe when pigs fly and liberals don't lie, water flows up hill, and country ham and red eye gravy are good for the heart-Conservists will rule North Carolina.

Unfortunately the weather will always vary somewhere between Key West Florida in the summertime and Antartica in the wintertime-not neccessarily in the respective seasons.

In my opinion the unpredictable weather can be adjusted to, but there is no adjusting to unpredictable politicians.
72 posted on 01/24/2003 1:21:10 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (excessive patience, is no virtue)
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
Depends on the watts of the bulb.
73 posted on 01/24/2003 1:25:12 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (excessive patience, is no virtue)
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To: guaguanco
Fine, if you live in Mississippi and are so tuned into the politics there. Why haven't these voters all switched their party affiliations yet? I assume next election cycle we'll see everything sorted out properly in Mississippi, with republicans properly elected across the board.

Hopefully that will be the case. While it will take time to overcome the incumbency factor I mentioned, Republicans have a decent shot of winning the governorship, state treasurer, keeping Lt Gov and state auditor, winning the state senate, and picking a dozen or more seats in the House in 2003. FYI, I live in Charlotte, and I have been following Mississippi politics, but you were posting about Mississippi without knowing anything about it.

74 posted on 01/24/2003 1:33:57 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Everyone knows that square is the shape of evil! -Spongebob Squarepants)
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To: jern
My E-mail to this critter read as follows:

Judas sold out for thirty pieces of silver-hope the demonRATS paid that much for your soul.
Judas couldn't live with his guilty conscience-can you?
It's not too late to switch back.

F.J. Mitchell
75 posted on 01/24/2003 2:14:32 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (excessive patience, is no virtue)
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To: guaguanco
I'm not from Mississippi, but waht I have gleaned from the newspaper articles are that these Democrat legislators are announcing that they will be running as Republicans in this years' Mississippi legislative elections. [please correct me if I am wrong]

I think that is a far different cry than switching parties just after you have been elected or re-elected.

76 posted on 01/24/2003 2:29:52 PM PST by writmeister
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To: F.J. Mitchell
The weather doesn't bother me that much since I was born and lived in MI for 28 years. Don't get me wrong, I'd gladly live the rest of my life never seeing another snowflake but it's not THAT big of a deal.

My husband OTOH absolutely freaks out during cold weather, if it gets below 70 he thinks he's dying. I'm sure it has something to do with living in S FL for his first 26 years of life : )

The thing that does get to me is the fact that everything shuts down with just a couple of inches of snow. I know, I know, we can't invest in snow removal equipment blah blah blah. I'd rather see the state spend some $$ on snow plows than the worthless state funded pre-school they're running these days. We've had some pretty significant snow falls since I've lived here for the past 7 1/2 years. Seems like justification to me.

MKM

77 posted on 01/24/2003 2:55:39 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: Constitution Day
I just heard your call on the Jerry Agar show. Good job!!

MKM

78 posted on 01/24/2003 2:56:41 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: guaguanco
If this guy was a 9 term Republican (and therefore well-liked by Freepers), presumably he should be given the benefit of letting him state his case before he is tarred and feathered. Nothing he can say will excuse this move. Nothing. He represents a very conservative district, but has now betrayed everyone who voted for him or sent him money. We should do everything we can to make sure he is sent home, whether it be a recall or by not letting him redraw the map to his liking.
79 posted on 01/24/2003 3:32:15 PM PST by Deport Billary
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To: Torie; Free the USA; ambrose; sampai
RATS WIN IN NC AGAIN ....AT THE STATE LEVEL...
80 posted on 01/24/2003 3:35:17 PM PST by KQQL (^@__*^)
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To: jern
For a politician to represent himself as a member of one party and to then change his party affiliation during a current term, is one of the worst things that an American could do.

It ranks right up there with treason in my book, and should recieve an appropriate response from the people who elected him.

This guy should be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

81 posted on 01/24/2003 3:42:11 PM PST by wcbtinman
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To: mykdsmom
Did you hear me on Agar??? I was the one who asked if the Dims had pics of Decker with little boys!

I have talked to two people who know Decker and who talked to him today. He can give no coherent reson for doing this....


I smell a RAT!!! He has been offered a ton of money to do this!
82 posted on 01/24/2003 3:46:34 PM PST by AlwaysLurking
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To: defeat_the_dem_igods
What your stats don't indicate, and I'd bet would show if all of the data were available, is that at present, more than 50% of the states population now works for some form of state, county, local or Federal govt.

When more than half the population feeds off the other half, and has the right to vote themselves largess via liberal candidates, then the whole house of cards will eventually come down.

The problem is, that they may take the rest of us down with them.

83 posted on 01/24/2003 3:53:30 PM PST by wcbtinman
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To: JohnnyZ; jern; Constitution Day
Now that the NC State House is split at 50/50 will this greatly harm the NC GOP chances of receiving a fair redistricting in the NC General Assembly?

NC Freepers shouldn't just get mad; they ought to work on ending the political careers of Sen. John Edwards & Gov. Mike " Four At More" Easley in 2004.
84 posted on 01/24/2003 4:37:42 PM PST by Kuksool (Down with Edwards & Easley in '04!)
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To: All
republicans need to be held to the fire?

WHEN THEY ACT LIKE RATS!
85 posted on 01/24/2003 4:41:15 PM PST by TLBSHOW (Slamming the liberal bias media but GOOD!)
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To: jern
Suggestion: check out activities and donations to Decker in re NC trial lawyers. They've got the big bucks and a lot at stake since Mississippi.
86 posted on 01/24/2003 4:45:18 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: jern
Someone post his e-mail address ASAP!
87 posted on 01/24/2003 5:06:24 PM PST by afuturegovernor
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To: guaguanco
I think 2003 will be a major breakthrough for Mississippi Republicans.
88 posted on 01/24/2003 5:12:17 PM PST by afuturegovernor
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To: jern
Send Mr. Decker your comments

1021 Legislative Building, Raleigh, NC 27601-1096

Phone: 919-733-5988

Email: Miked@ncleg.net

89 posted on 01/24/2003 5:17:16 PM PST by afuturegovernor
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To: jern; All
Traitor bumps
90 posted on 01/24/2003 5:17:52 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (The Fellowship of Conservatives)
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To: jern
I am SICK!!

The RATS are getting so bold. They just openly ignore the votes of the people they're supposedly representing.

This guy will have every conservative group after him in the next election. Meanwhile, we have a Rat legislature for 2 years!!!

It's time to pass a law that if someone wants to change his or her party, he must resign and run again. It's not fair to the people who worked in or gave $ to the campaign and not fair to the people who voted for him or her.


91 posted on 01/24/2003 5:52:01 PM PST by ncweaver
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To: Phantom Lord
They obviously have some serious shit on him.

My first thought exactly.
The only way the Republicans can counter this tactic is by finding out the same dirt on this scumbag Decker that the Democrats have.

92 posted on 01/24/2003 6:26:48 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Phantom Lord
In a phone interview Mr. Decker was asked to explain his sudden and unexpected move. He had two words "Scott Ritter". This reporter could get nothing more out of Mr. Decker, but it is safe to assume the NC Democratic party has some dirt on Mr. Decker. Possibly that he is a child molestor and they would expose it if he didnt switch. </ sarcasm> They obviously have some serious shit on him.

Well, that shows what kind of people they like in their party, if it WAS due to dirt.

93 posted on 01/24/2003 6:33:27 PM PST by GOP-Pat
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To: JohnnyZ
I understand your position and I agree completely.

If a conservative switches to a conservative party, or a liberal switches to a liberal party, there really is no hypocrisy (although there could certainly be some duplicity and ulterior motives), regardless of party tags.

But when a conservative switches to the scumbag Democrat Party, that is hypocrisy. That is sick.

94 posted on 01/24/2003 6:37:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AlwaysLurking
I was the one who asked if the Dims had pics of Decker with little boys

What an interesting theory, it makes as much sense as anything else in this strange defection. No, sorry I didn't hear ya. I was listening in between vacuming and doing the laundry.

MKM

95 posted on 01/24/2003 6:53:45 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: jern
It sounds as though an election law should be considered in which a party-switcher is required to step down, return what he owes to his previous party and to have to run against that party's new pick. Otherwise, the party that's in majority at it's first meeting, barring a member's death or disablement, should be the majority until the next election.
96 posted on 01/24/2003 7:18:25 PM PST by skr
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To: Kuksool
THIS IS THE FIRST REAL RESPONSE, THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY PREVENT FUTURE DEFECTIONS FROM THE GOP.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO ANYONE WHO DID SOMETHING DURING THE ELECTION, WE MUST DO BETTER. NOT ENOUGH OF US DID.

IF THE AVERAGE FREEPER GOT OFF THEIR KEYBOARD AND PUT THEIR EFFORTS BEHIND A CANDIDATE OR TWO, WE WOULD HAVE MORE THAN A ONE VOTE MARGIN IN THE STATE HOUSE. THEN A DEFECTION BY A MARGINAL PLAYER (DECKER) WOULD NOT CAUSE OUR ENTIRE FALL EFFORT (WINNING THE STATE HOUSE) TO FALL INTO A TIE.

MORE LATER.....BECAUSE I'M FURIOUS.
97 posted on 01/24/2003 7:45:36 PM PST by RightOnGOP
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To: RightOnGOP
WE MUST DO BETTER. NOT ENOUGH OF US DID.

What did YOU do?

MKM

98 posted on 01/24/2003 8:02:02 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: LibWhacker
A lot of the former Democrats in the South who switched to the Republican party were never as conservative as the GOP base. The late John Bowden Connally was believed to have regretted his 1973 defection to the Republicans. It broke Lady Bird Johnson's heart. A TX congressman whose name escapes me defected in 1995, but he lost the 1996 primary to now Rep. Ron Paul, R-TX. A Freeper in Lubbock says that Lubbock County is now heavily Republican, but most of the Republicans are former Democrat moderates who have hijacked the party there from the conservative base. In LA, Republicans frequently cross party lines to support such Democrats as John Breaux and Mary Landrieu. So some of these defections may not have been as useful in the long run as they seemed at the time of the party switch. Former Democrat Jesse Helms, however, remained true to conservatism after his defection in 1970.
99 posted on 01/24/2003 9:04:43 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: jern
Given Mike Decker’s conservative voting record in the General Assembly, I find this to be irrational and bizarre behavior,”

Does the term blackmail/FBI files ring any bells?

100 posted on 01/24/2003 9:23:01 PM PST by zip
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