posted on 01/26/2003 3:00:03 PM PST
(Guns and chicks rule)
Brookings produces lies the way Pepsi produces soft drinks.
posted on 01/26/2003 3:10:37 PM PST
(Sharpton in '04.... the movement starts here)
300 gun laws is too many.
300 gun laws is too many.
It is "irrelevant" to count local laws that are superceded by state laws, the authors said in a press release heralding their study.
Translation: "The only way we can dispute the 20,000 number is to not count 19,700 local laws by calling them 'irrelevant.'"
If there are only 300 "relevant", "meaningful" gun laws out of 20,000, then let's have the Brokkings Institution folks standing with the gun rights people in calling for the immediate and total repeal of the remaining 19,700 laws at issue. Anyone who objects to this course of action undermines the claim that these laws are irrelevant or meaningless.
For whatever ( or little ) it's worth, I recall, in days when I had no idea how to link anything, reading a webpage which claimed to actual, total count among all the states plus the Federal government was 23,086.
I can also tell you that I have before me the official ATF "State Laws & Published Ordinances- Firearms," year 2000, 22 edition, and it has 329 pages.
posted on 01/26/2003 3:26:36 PM PST
Looks like an outcome based study to me. They determined the outcome they sought, then adjusted the input to achieve the desired results. Commonly referred to as "cheating".
In a poker game in the Old West it could get you tarred and feathered... or worse.
posted on 01/26/2003 3:31:28 PM PST
However many gun laws there are - most of them are totally ineffectual in controlling either crime or violence. Because the criminal is already not particularly concerned about breaking the law, prohibitions against possession of weapons are meaningless, it is just one more law to break.
Violence arising from rage has little to do with the presence or absence of a sidearm or handgun. The violence will proceed with ou without the discharge of a gun. Just that guns make the encounter somewhat more deadly, but the emotions involved are unchanged.
To: TERMINATTOR; madfly; FITZ; Bill Davis FR; mhking; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Elkiejg; barker; ...
posted on 01/26/2003 3:42:15 PM PST
(The Fellowship of Conservatives)
I think the 20,000 estimate is probably a low count...
The BATF's latest annual "State Laws and Published Ordinances - Firearms, 2001 - 23rd ed" (ATF P 5300.5) is 411 pages of State laws, current as of 2001. The 22nd edition was 330 pages and the 21st edition (1998 laws) was only 202 pages. This is only BATF selected State laws.
To get an "official" measure of the volume of federal AND state laws regarding firearms refer to the BATF web site: http://www.atf.treas.gov/
or the NRA ILA research library: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws.asp
I've found the best source to research local (city/county) laws in California is "The California Rifle and Pistol Assn" http://www.crpa.org
Finally, for those that want to see how bad it really is in CA, California Dept of Justice, firearms laws: http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/
Hey, may people die in auto accidents on Friday. Let's make-a-law-against < drum roll > Friday! That will end all senseless Friday deaths of "the children." (Look out progresoRats, I have a campaign issue.)
posted on 01/27/2003 4:07:07 AM PST
(Convict pedophile wannabe traitor Ritter thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829655/posts)
HOW STUPID ARE THESE PEOPLE??
JUST ASK ME WHEN I TRAVEL THRU SKOKIE ILLINOIS, AND THEY ARREST ME AND PUT ME IN JAIL.
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