Skip to comments.Single Guys Paying for Everything
Posted on 01/28/2003 7:17:20 PM PST by Mocha_Man
To all families of 4 making 40k a year:
From MSNBC "The president called on Congress to make years of projected tax cuts effective immediately, saying that a family of four with an income of $40,000 would see its federal tax bill fall from $1,178 a year to just $45."
Swell, so that means that the costs of running this society are in the hands of the single people? This is typical. I believe we should all share in running this place together, but this seems quite unfair. What logic comes up a plan that penalizes someone who has worked VERY hard their entire life, sacrified family, friends, and in some cases well being?
I didn't get married to the first thing I saw, or take some nothing job below median income and didn't get stuck with 2 kids because of improper family planning. That's my fault? Now I have to pay 12K a year in Federal Taxes while you families of 4 making 40K a year live off my blood, sweat, and tears?
They are YOUR kids, it isn't my fault you have a family. You should pay AT LEAST as much as I do, your kids are draining the economy. Your kids are using the public schools, parks, libraries, etc... that I am paying for. Like I said earlier, I don't mind paying for these things, someone paid for them when I was a kid, but why should I have to pay more than you? YOU are the one with the poorly planned family, not me.
Who in their right mind would have 2 kids if they only make 40K a year? What were you thinking? How are you going to raise them to be productive members of society? How could you clothe them? How can you send them to college? How can you pay for their after school activities? Oh wait I know, you can afford to do these things because you aren't paying your share of federal tax.
"Who in their right mind would have 2 kids if they only make 40K a year?"
I'm a single dad with two kids. I earned less than 40K last year, yet I do okay. My "mind" is just fine.
Swell, so that means that the costs of running this society are in the hands of the single people?
You could always work to change the situation. Support a comprehensive single rate single stage tax on retail sales.
John Linder (R Texas) offers a bill to kill all income and payroll taxes outright, providing a proportate tax based on individual expenditure (one's benefit from society instead of arbitrary measures of one's contribution to society) alone:
SPONSOR: Rep Linder, John (introduced 07/17/2001)
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.
Refer: http://www.fairtax.org & http://www.salestax.org
I'll cut you a deal that will take the burden off those four kids: Let me keep my Social Security tax and invest it on my own and, in exchange, I'll give up any claim to Social Security, so those four kids won't get taxes to pay for my benefits.
With two grade school kids, a few years is about right.
I agree with you completely. We need the federal government to stop trying to solve every problem. Spending cuts are good for two reasons. The most obvious one is that when we cut spending, we can afford to pay down the debt and cut taxes even further. The second reason is that the federal government often makes many problems worse by its involvement. We spent 5 trillion dollars on the "War on Poverty" and only made things worse by doing tremendous harm to families from our lower socioeconomic classes. Generally, federal involvement and spending on education has hurt the quality of education that American children receive. We should cut spending, cut federal bureaucracy, cut unneeded departments, cut the debt, and cut taxex by cutting the rate that everyone pays.
Like Mocha Man, I'm tired of being hit with higher taxes because I haven't found a wife or started a family. I shouldn't have to pay for services for everyone else's kids when they aren't making a similar or greater contribution.
Unfortunately, all of us pay for things we don't want/use. Get the federal government back to its Constitutionally mandated size and this who argument becomes moot.
This gets real skewed when you start talking about things that are priced mainly for their artistic or collectors' value, rather than the amount of resources that went into creating them.
..and this whole argument...
I am for this tax break because those who are the Dems' constituencies will dramatically feel the impact of the cut. Then they may realize the wisdom of tax cuts in general which will change the political atmosphere for the long-term.
One step at a time.
Just remember something, It'll be my and CoolGuyVic's kids that pay all your future retirement perks. I hear all your drugs will be free too when you get to become part of the leisure class. At least I thought I heard something to that effect. Of course hearing and getting to concentrate on anything is difficult to do while my spawn are awake.
Heck, with as much work and loss of free time that I have to put in to prepare my two to take over the previous generation's debt and pyramid schemes, it's us working families who feel like we're getting ripped off in this deal. You should thanking us instead of badmouthing us, we're putting in doubletime trying to keep the system going, while you're benifiting now and will be collecting in the future.
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