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Century-old Hutchinson High School chant abolished <Freep these Nuts!>
Focus on Freedom ^ | 02 feb 2003 | cjonline

Posted on 02/02/2003 7:38:31 PM PST by steplock

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Century-old Hutchinson High School chant abolished

Topeka Capital Journal
Principal: Ronn Roehm

HUTCHINSON -- A 102-year-old Hutchinson High School chant made up of apparent nonsense words was yanked after the school board deemed it potentially offensive.

The school board voted unanimously Monday night to do away with the chant after Superintendent Wynona Winn said that at least one phrase
-- "hoe potatoer" -- could be considered offensive.

The 28-line chant of apparent nonsense words was created by two students in 1901.

It became an issue at the Dec. 9 school board meeting, when parent Lorie Norris noted that at one time it contained a racial slur that was replaced more than 60 years ago by the words "Higger, Bigger."

The district immediately suspended the chant, which usually is led by cheerleaders at football and basketball games.

Winn then searched the Internet and books, and talked to those who might have knowledge of the chant's origins.

In a book about slave songs, she found terms from the chant: "chicka," "rat trap," "bulligator" and a reference to slaves hoeing potatoes.

She also determined that the words "Higger, Bigger," could be viewed as a mask for the original terms.

No students spoke at Monday's meeting, but some adults suggested the chant should be changed instead of tossed.

"I'm a big believer in tradition," said Cindy Knox, who graduated from Hutchinson High in 1980. "Tradition is very difficult to get, very difficult to keep, very easy to let go."

Gary Carson, the district's associate superintendent of operations, however, suggested the district build a tradition of "integrity and respect and tolerance."

"Tradition is bigger than a chant or a cheer or a song," he said. "Tradition has to be something from within that people embrace and believe in as a whole, as a group."

Hutchinson High School
1401 N. Severance • Hutchinson, KS 67501 •
620-665-4500
Principal: Ronn Roehm  mailto:roehmr@usd308.com


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: education; freedom; highschool; hoepotatoer; hutchinson; hutchinsonhigh; kansas; publicschool; publicschools; school; speech
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1 posted on 02/02/2003 7:38:31 PM PST by steplock
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To: steplock
hoe potatoer

Sounds more like a slur on the Irish.

2 posted on 02/02/2003 7:41:43 PM PST by weikel (Your commie has no regard for human life not even his own)
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To: steplock
In a book about slave songs, she found terms from the chant: "chicka," "rat trap," "bulligator" and a reference to slaves hoeing potatoes.

They found that in a book? Burn it!!! Destroy anything with words we don't like. get rid of the chant, and then destroy all printed materials people could see those words in... < /sarcasm here, but reality on liberal boards >

3 posted on 02/02/2003 7:44:18 PM PST by chance33_98 (Freedom is not Free)
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To: steplock
She also determined that the words "Higger, Bigger," could be viewed as a mask for the original terms.

Oh well, if they could be viewed as a "mask" then we should ban them, of course.

Anything that rhymes with "digger" should be banned from the English language.

4 posted on 02/02/2003 7:46:04 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: steplock
"hoe potatoer" -- could be considered offensive

Abortion is an offensive word to me, I will freep them later on tonight after i get some coffe and some of them thar french fried hoe taters.

5 posted on 02/02/2003 7:46:44 PM PST by chance33_98 (Freedom is not Free)
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To: weikel
I propose we eliminate the following words from the english language:

Bigger, Cigger, Digger, Figger, Gigger, Higger, Jigger, Kigger, Ligger, Migger, Pigger, Quigger, Rigger, Sigger, Tigger, Vigger, Wigger, Xigger, Yigger, Zigger.

Because they are just wayyy too close to sounding like "Nigger."

6 posted on 02/02/2003 7:47:42 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (I drank what?)
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To: mhking
Higger, Bigger, hoe potater ping
7 posted on 02/02/2003 7:47:49 PM PST by chance33_98 (Freedom is not Free)
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To: steplock
Allagaroo, garoo, garoo;
Wah, hoo, bazoo;
Hicer, Picer, Dominicer,
Sis! Boom! Bah!
Hutchinson High School
Rah! Rah! Rah!
La shoo, La shoo
La Shoo, Li Roo,
La shoo, Li Ishabacka,
Ishabacka Boo,
Hutchinson High School
Hey Roo.
Boom skit a rat trap
See si Boom!
Higger, Bigger Hoe potatoer
Half past Alligator,
Rom, Bom, Bulligator,
Chika! Saw! Dah!
Hutchinson High School
Rah! Rah! Rah!Ala Bago, Ala Bago,
Ala Bago, Baga Bum,
Boom skit a rat trap,
Bigger'n a cat trap,
Boom skit a rat trap,
Bigger'n a cat trap.
Chicawaw, Chicawaw,
Hutchinson High School
Rah! Rah! Rah!

8 posted on 02/02/2003 7:48:00 PM PST by js1138
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To: steplock; Xenalyte
integrity and respect and tolerance

Welcome to tolerance camp.

9 posted on 02/02/2003 7:48:54 PM PST by weikel (Your commie has no regard for human life not even his own)
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To: js1138
I like it! It's rather catchy datchy sis boom!
10 posted on 02/02/2003 7:50:00 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (I drank what?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe; Sir Gawain
There a lot of other words we can eliminate stop being so niggardly with your ideas of words to be eliminated.
11 posted on 02/02/2003 7:50:07 PM PST by weikel (Your commie has no regard for human life not even his own)
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To: Dog Gone

Flippin' Jiggers

12 posted on 02/02/2003 7:51:05 PM PST by blam
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To: weikel
BTW, do you know what is an Irish seven course meal?
13 posted on 02/02/2003 7:51:55 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
No what?
14 posted on 02/02/2003 7:52:32 PM PST by weikel (Your commie has no regard for human life not even his own)
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To: js1138
Silly, but fun. What is wrong with people today?
15 posted on 02/02/2003 7:53:20 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
Mashed potatoes, boiled potatoes, stewed potatoes, baked potatoes, raw potatoes, potato milshake, and potato pie
16 posted on 02/02/2003 7:54:03 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (I drank what?)
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To: steplock
This nonsense sure does trigger a snigger. I'll have to pour myself a bigger jigger. She's quite a rigger, I figger.
17 posted on 02/02/2003 7:54:30 PM PST by Loyalist (Ceci n'est pas un tagline.)
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To: js1138
"Allagaroo, garoo, garoo;
Wah, hoo, bazoo;"

Well I'M offended!
How dare you post that to a forum that celebrates uh, "Freedom", er,...
<sarcasm>

18 posted on 02/02/2003 7:55:27 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Lunatic Fringe
But where's the Beer and Whiskey in this equation?
19 posted on 02/02/2003 7:55:58 PM PST by weikel (Your commie has no regard for human life not even his own)
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To: steplock
This nonsense sure does trigger a snigger. I figger I'll have to pour myself a bigger jigger.
20 posted on 02/02/2003 7:56:35 PM PST by Loyalist (Ceci n'est pas un tagline.)
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To: js1138
I see nothing politically incorrect about this cheer. On the other hand, it should be banned for its sheer and extreme dorkiness.
21 posted on 02/02/2003 7:57:37 PM PST by socal_parrot (We've got the spirit, how 'bout you?)
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To: Loyalist
Sorry about the double-post. How insensitive and intolerant of me.
22 posted on 02/02/2003 7:58:11 PM PST by Loyalist (Ceci n'est pas un tagline.)
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To: steplock
How long did it take these idiots to research all this in order to show their behinds and become the center of attention?
23 posted on 02/02/2003 7:59:24 PM PST by RLK
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To: js1138
Students immediately wrote a brand new cheer to honor this sensitive parent:

Lorie Norris brain so porous
stupid, doopid, utter goopid,
dummy, rummy, sick to tummy,
Racist, wastist time-ist rhymist
oldie goodie nonsense wordy
meant no harmie
Lorie smarmy
How we hate her, alligator
Hutchinson High School
Rah, rah, rah!

24 posted on 02/02/2003 8:01:54 PM PST by lsee
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To: steplock
The 28-line chant of apparent nonsense words

The high school's name also appears in the chant. And those words are obvious nonsense words.

/john

25 posted on 02/02/2003 8:01:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: weikel
" Sounds more like a slur on the Irish"

We Irish dinna have 'hoes', we had sweet, easy lasses, thank you.

26 posted on 02/02/2003 8:02:41 PM PST by lawdude
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To: Loyalist
I was a resident of Hutchinson when I was just a youngster in the 4th grade. Still make it up to the State Fair there once in awhile. Some of the sideshow "acts" at the fair are more offensive than this chant. I am offended by alot of things, but you know what, it isn't my right to not be offended. I wish all people would realize this and get over their self-inflicted "victimization".
27 posted on 02/02/2003 8:03:45 PM PST by lmr
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To: weikel

28 posted on 02/02/2003 8:04:21 PM PST by socal_parrot
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To: Happygal
ping
29 posted on 02/02/2003 8:13:03 PM PST by weikel (Your commie has no regard for human life not even his own)
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To: steplock
I'm offended and I don't even know why. I feel a lawsuit coming on.
30 posted on 02/02/2003 8:15:34 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker
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To: steplock
Gary Carson, the district's associate superintendent of operations, however, suggested the district build a tradition of "integrity and respect and tolerance."

Huh? I can understand the part about integrity and respect, but how and why did the word tolerance get tacked on to the end of Carson's statement? Tolerance about what?

31 posted on 02/02/2003 8:16:01 PM PST by judgeandjury (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)
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To: Dog Gone
She also determined that the words "Higger, Bigger," could be viewed as a mask for the original terms.

That's very niggardly of her.

32 posted on 02/02/2003 8:16:55 PM PST by gg188
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To: steplock
She also determined that the words "Higger, Bigger," could be viewed as a mask for the original terms.

Yeah, and the word "fornicate" could be viewed as a mask for that other F-word, but should we ban the word fornicate because of this?

33 posted on 02/02/2003 8:19:31 PM PST by judgeandjury (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)
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To: weikel
I always heard it was a six-pack and a potatoe.
34 posted on 02/02/2003 8:20:16 PM PST by Steve1789
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To: lsee
LOL!
35 posted on 02/02/2003 8:24:10 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: weikel
Mexico bypassing U.S. sovereignty? Check this article!!
36 posted on 02/02/2003 8:25:14 PM PST by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: js1138
What a bunch of nonsense.

Norfolk High has a better one.

"We don't drink! We don't smoke!"
"Norfolk! Norfolk! Norfolk!"

NOW let them tell me again how higger, bigger, potatoer and chika are offensive.


37 posted on 02/02/2003 8:33:42 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: weikel
Upon refelction, although the punch line is mildy amusing and not in any way foul or obscene, it is certainly not complimentary. Sorry for the tease, but I better stuff it before I get in trouble.
39 posted on 02/02/2003 8:35:20 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: steplock
Yo, Bro, I got a hoe:

"The Man With a Hoe" by Millet

40 posted on 02/02/2003 8:49:37 PM PST by APBaer
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To: Dog Gone
In a world full of political incorrectness one would think that the students could have found a better way to espress themselves without being NIGGARDLY in their use of words.
41 posted on 02/02/2003 9:00:24 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: APBaer
Dare we compare it to "The Potato Eaters" by Vincent van Gogh and other paintings of French and Irish peasants?
42 posted on 02/02/2003 9:04:09 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Lunatic Fringe
May this superintendent be plagued with chiggers.
43 posted on 02/02/2003 9:08:20 PM PST by Marauder
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To: judgeandjury
should we ban the word fornicate because of this?

No, but shouldn't we ban buck, cluck, duck, luck, muck, pluck, shuck, schmuck, tuck, and truck?

Not to mention Huck Finn, of course.

44 posted on 02/02/2003 9:17:20 PM PST by Marauder (Political correctness is a pox on this society.)
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To: steplock
"The school board voted unanimously Monday night to do away with the chant after Superintendent Wynona Winn said that at least one phrase -- "hoe potatoer" -- could be considered offensive."

Only if you are a hoe or a potatoe!!

45 posted on 02/02/2003 9:18:22 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Prayers for Columbia.)
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To: js1138
I used to sit out in the Wrigley Field left-field bleachers in the early 1970s. We used to do a chant that started like this:

Alabevo! Alabaivo! Alabevo, baivo, bum!
Bum on a rat trap!
Bigger than a cat trap!

At the time, and ever since, I thought this nonsense chant was unique to the Bleacher Bums. But now, because of this thread, I find out otherwise. I just did a Google search of some of the key terms, and I find results (with some variations, of course) all over the country.

The things you learn because of FR. . . .

46 posted on 02/02/2003 9:20:12 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: steplock
- "hoe potatoer" -- could be considered offensive... I for one am offended that so many people seem to have become convinced of their own superior righteousness that they can so easily become offended and pass judgment on what others have to say...
47 posted on 02/02/2003 9:37:14 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I always thought an Irish seven course meal was a boiled potato and a six-pack! ;^)
48 posted on 02/02/2003 10:06:06 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: Marauder
"May this superintendent be plagued with chiggers."

Now, now! Don't say "chiggers", say "cheegros"!
49 posted on 02/02/2003 10:10:33 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: weikel
The Irish? Maybe that's it. I thought maybe it was a slur against Idaho people or maybe prostitutes. You can't be too careful.
50 posted on 02/02/2003 10:31:26 PM PST by Savage Beast
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