Manhatten Disgrace: GIS NEED NOT APPLY

Yahoo News ^ | 3 February 2003 | JEANE MacINTOSH

[xsrdx]

Most likely they seek to exclude military because military personnel are subject to deployment, and thus can typically break their lease without notice or penalty by law.

The incentive here was probably financial, not cultural.

[SheLion]

Interesting that the clause only lists military service of the US and New York State. Presumably this doesn't apply to foreign military obligations - active or reserve.

Sickening, isn't it!

[SheLion]

The incentive here was probably financial, not cultural.

Oh, I understand that. But to single out our military in this manner in these days and times is just outlandish.

Plus, like I said, what poor military family could even afford such places.

[Station 51]

You have always advocated Property Rights here on FR and should be commended for it. However, now you support Government intervention on property rights. Which is it? Should the business owners be able to control what they do with their property or should the Government dictate what they can and cannot do?

[caltrop]

The incentive is cultural, not commercial. I used to live in a high priced NY apartment and wore my uniform to weekend drills. You should have seen some of the horrified looks I got from some of my neighbors.

[FreeInWV]

What they need to do is NAIL these people.

I've got some ex-tenants that I need to send to live with you. I'm as patriotic as the next Freeper, and have the utmost of respect for our service members, but I also just got scammed by some army reservists. After all they did, I will be quite leery of renting to another. Now that they are deployed, I have little recourse to get the thousands in back rent and damages that they owe me. Maybe I should just tell the state JAG officer about how they spent all of my rent money on weed. Its true.

[oyez]

Sailors and dogs, stay off the grass
Key West, Florida..

Well, the Navy all but abandon the town and they desereve the results. #1 homo vacation spot.

[American Soldier]

Dunno...I always felt sorry for the NCOs that get assigned to huge metro areas as recruiters. I've seen their housing allowances, they're enough to get a decent place in the midwest or the south but when they get stuck somewhere like DC they often end up either having to live in a nasty shack or else drive 1.5 hours to work every morning.

[VOA]

bump

[Illbay]

Actually, upper-class yutz like these would sniff and tut-tut at the plight of the "working class" GIs.

It's the horrible, terrible OFFICER class they don't want to be anywhere near.

BTW, don't you love this "can't be SUPPORTED by anyone in the military?"

DO you realize the implication?

Say there's a kid whose parents are divorced, and he lives with his mom. The dad is in the military, and a good portion of the Dad's pay goes to the kid's mainenance and support.

According to these by-laws, the mother would have to relinquish the apartment if found out.

This is just the most rank hypocrisy imaginable! But what can you expect from the "Caring Class?" They wouldn't want to be associated with MILITARY scoundrels...but you can bet your bottom dollar Hillary! can count on them for a fundraising cocktail party or two any time she's in the neighborhood!

[js1138]

Where is the Property Rights prospective here at Free Republic?

Interestion question, but the Soldiers and Sailors Act was designed to protect servicemen called overseas in time of war. I don't think it protects anyone who simply doesn't pay his rent.

In less democratic times, any landlord who evicted a person who was overseas and out of communication would have been tarred and feathered.

[Illbay]

You are not seriously trying to say that because some Army reservists were scoundrels, that means that ALL military personnel are suspect, are you?

[Illbay]

Sorry, but that's an outmoded way of thinking. You do NOT have the right to deny housing to someone who is black, for example. That's considered illegal, do you understand that?

Or are you asking the Supreme Court to toss all that out, save only the right of someone to offend at will?

[Station 51]

The larger question is "At what point does law take precedence over property rights?"

What if I choose not to rent a house to a gay couple or non-Christians? Should the Government step in and force me to rent my house to these people? What if I simply have something against people that are left-handed? Can I choose not to rent to them or should the Nanny State step-in and force me against my will to rest to people that are left handed?

I own two rest houses in Austin and will not rent to smokers, fraternity members or longhaired boys that don't bathe and eat tofu. Should I be tossed in jail for my business decision?

Now, I do understand that I cannot discriminate on race but is that a just law or just greater intrusion of the Government into my business?

[FreeInWV]

You are not seriously trying to say that because some Army reservists were scoundrels, that means that ALL military personnel are suspect, are you?

No, I did not say or mean to insinuate that. I can only speak from my own experiences with the individuals that I have met locally. I would never presume to make any claims concerning ALL military personnel.

I will say however that all guardsmen or reservists that I have rented to recently have been extremely poor tenants. Maybe its their unit or the local command that has problems. Most are college students using the guard to pay their way. I don't know what the problem is. All I am saying is that I can no longer blindly trust my financial well-being on the premise that each one will act honestly and honorably. I cannot afford to support 2 or 3 reservists at a time that refuse to pay rent and destroy my property on a whim. My most recent "scoundrel" did not pay any utilities since he moved in during May. He owes various utility companies several thousand dollars. Nearly every word he ever told me turned out to be a lie. He owes me well over a thousand dollars, as well as over a thousand that he deceived a "friend" out of. He spent all of his money on booze, weed, women and fancy electronics. I hauled out garbage bags full of empty liquor bottles after he disappeared. I'll likely need to rip out the carpet to get the smell of pot smoke out of the place. There was enough garbage to fill several trucks.

Sorry, but I've already been burnt enough times. From now on, before I rent to any military in this area, I will demand the name and contact information of their commanding officer as a reference. I will diligently contact this individual with any problems, and CC the state JAG officer. If they have no problem with this policy, I will be glad to rent to them.

Of course if you would rather cover my losses.......